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Post by Shiloh on Jul 29, 2007 21:19:18 GMT -5
Sukkot lasts for seven days. The two days following the festival, Shemini Atzeret and Simchat Torah, are separate holidays but are related to Sukkot and are commonly thought of as part of Sukkot.
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Post by Holy convocations on Jul 29, 2007 21:23:42 GMT -5
Leviticus 23:
37'These are the appointed times of the LORD which you shall proclaim as holy convocations, to present offerings by fire to the LORD--burnt offerings and grain offerings, sacrifices and drink offerings, each day's matter on its own day--
38 besides those of the sabbaths of the LORD, and besides your gifts and besides all your votive and freewill offerings, which you give to the LORD.
39 'On exactly the fifteenth day of the seventh month, when you have gathered in the crops of the land, you shall celebrate the feast of the LORD for seven days, with a rest on the first day and a rest on the eighth day.
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Post by ranman77007 on Jul 30, 2007 4:00:29 GMT -5
Jesus is our Passover... 4 days.... "let us keep the feast..etc.."... i think its Hebrews...maybe James... either way, has God not taught you anything? 3 days 4 days 5 days blah blah blah you'll be fortunate to get one day this year. as will i.
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Post by Brad Lewis on Jul 31, 2007 1:08:02 GMT -5
I wonder why William Irvine took the idea of conventions from the Faith Mission?
He must have really enjoyed them and thought it would be like a four day worship service of him.
Brad
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2007 2:17:42 GMT -5
quote - ...On the fifteenth day of this seventh month is the Festival of Sukkot, seven days for the LORD. -Leviticus 23:34 Sukkot. Feast of the Tabernacles. (Still not a 2x2 convention). The festival of Sukkot is instituted in Leviticus 23:33 et seq. No work is permitted on the first and second days of the holiday. Work is permitted on the remaining days. These intermediate days on which work is permitted are referred to as Chol Ha-Mo'ed, as are the intermediate days of Passover. Sukkah = tent or booth. You will dwell in booths for seven days; all natives of Israel shall dwell in booths. -Leviticus 23:42 Sukkot commemorates the forty-year period during which the children of Israel were wandering in the desert, living in temporary shelters. Yeah, I know... Interestingly, the two large convocations we read of in the New Testament didn't have any Old Testament connections at all.
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Post by ranman77007 on Jul 31, 2007 8:27:51 GMT -5
lmao... anyone that went to buttonwillow #2 during the years 1970 thru 1976 and sat in the dining tent: i filled your cup with water. I sure hope that are all okay. You might not want to confess your whereabouts and doings. Is that Sam the dog barking in the background? i remember the dog. there was also a cat named buttonwillow. and toads, and frogs, butterflies, all kinds of creatures, and i was catching all of them, and then serving your water...... i have a confession. i was only maybe seven years old, but i would tell the girls my praying mantis was a baby monster... i got lots of attention this way....
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Post by ranman77007 on Aug 7, 2007 18:41:47 GMT -5
Thanks - I now can't get that song out of my head. i want to know who posted that post. who is To DYWM Guest?
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Post by Hmmmmmm on Aug 7, 2007 19:53:53 GMT -5
I wonder why William Irvine took the idea of conventions from the Faith Mission?He must have really enjoyed them and thought it would be like a four day worship service of him.
Brad
He must not have liked them very well... he shortened them from one to two weeks to four days...
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Post by Shiloh on Aug 7, 2007 20:41:24 GMT -5
bert.
The "two large convocations we read of in the New Testament" have no connection whatsoever to 2x2 conventions.
Neither instance.
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Post by ranman77007 on Aug 7, 2007 20:49:43 GMT -5
well see, if the Spirit was to reveal what convention is, you would know. i do know, as it was revealed to me in a vision, something that actually happened to me with Jesus. remember the part when Jesus does not go to the feast, but then does go later? well that whole thing happened to me too, you guys always ask what specific thing Jesus did for you, or said. well thats another one that happened to me. Jesus is still the same, etc etc will remain.....through time to come. tho born in low estate, not ranked among the great, He is the only Gate, God's own Sent One.
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Post by Holy Convocation on Aug 7, 2007 20:54:26 GMT -5
37 All of us in the ship were two hundred and seventy-six persons.
14 all his relatives to come to him, seventy-five persons in all.
41 and that day there were added about three thousand souls.
Not.
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Post by Brad Lewis on Aug 7, 2007 23:42:51 GMT -5
37 All of us in the ship were two hundred and seventy-six persons. 14 all his relatives to come to him, seventy-five persons in all. 41 and that day there were added about three thousand souls. Not. Ha, That's a riot. Cool word scrolling too Brad
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Post by Holy Convocation on Aug 8, 2007 17:06:21 GMT -5
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Post by huhh on Aug 9, 2007 16:25:50 GMT -5
What You are all confused ! There is no such group then or now as 2x2....sorry to say, you lose this round too, by two.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2007 17:46:31 GMT -5
quote - "bert. The "two large convocations we read of in the New Testament" have no connection whatsoever to 2x2 conventions. Neither instance. " Oh,yes they do. For if there was no such large scale gatherings then we wouldn't have them either.
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Post by does it matter on Aug 9, 2007 20:58:25 GMT -5
I doubt if any reasonable person, of any denomination, could find fault with there being conventions. Would it surprise you to find out that other churches hold conventions too? They may call them conferrences or other things....even conventions. The worldly churches do all sorts of things that can't find precidence in the bible either. Ecumenical conferences, Vatican II, The Nicean Council...may or may not have anything that resembles anything biblical. Aren't we just nit-picking here....trying to bash 2x2 customs? Of course, if the 2x2s proclaim that there MUST be 2x2 conventions (as they are held) in order to attain salvation...then one might have a point.
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Post by TO does it matter on Aug 9, 2007 21:04:59 GMT -5
"bert" believes the workers' group is apostolic: That is the point/problem.
"bert" believes any gathering of any number of people mentioned in scripture is the workers' group.
Again, that his the problem.
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Post by where did you read this on Aug 9, 2007 21:10:41 GMT -5
"bert" believes the workers' group is apostolic: That is the point/problem. "bert" believes any gathering of any number of people mentioned in scripture is the workers' group. Again, that his the problem. i didnt read bert saying his church is apostolic as you mean it, he says it is apostolic in nature i never read him or her saying any gathering in the bible was a worker gathering either where do you read all this
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Post by Brad Lewis on Aug 9, 2007 22:25:41 GMT -5
I doubt if any reasonable person, of any denomination, could find fault with there being conventions. Would it surprise you to find out that other churches hold conventions too? They may call them conferrences or other things....even conventions. The worldly churches do all sorts of things that can't find precidence in the bible either. Ecumenical conferences, Vatican II, The Nicean Council...may or may not have anything that resembles anything biblical. Aren't we just nit-picking here....trying to bash 2x2 customs? Of course, if the 2x2s proclaim that there MUST be 2x2 conventions (as they are held) in order to attain salvation...then one might have a point. Does it matter? Yes. 2x2s condemn others for having buildings. Yet they have buildings for conventions. Of course it matters, if they say one thing and do another, we'ld like some explanation because their words don't make sense. Perhaps as they try to give an explanation they could see the error of their ways. Of course it matters. Brad
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Post by _ on Aug 9, 2007 22:27:03 GMT -5
You are correct brad...
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Post by déjà vu on Aug 9, 2007 22:54:24 GMT -5
Scriptural or not , as long a a Convention / Conference edifies the body of Christ I could not object to them.
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Post by Edify on Aug 18, 2007 11:33:52 GMT -5
The "conventions," "convocations," "annual meetings" of the "workers" do NOT edify the Body of Christ. As such, they are objectionable.
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Post by Sylvestra on Aug 19, 2007 21:44:50 GMT -5
The "conventions," "convocations," "annual meetings" of the "workers" do NOT edify the Body of Christ. As such, they are objectionable. You see, only "the hand" part of the Body of Christ is invited there. Most of the rest of the Body of Christ don't even know about them. This is what is objectional! E
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Post by ranman77007 on Aug 20, 2007 2:21:55 GMT -5
quote - "bert. The "two large convocations we read of in the New Testament" have no connection whatsoever to 2x2 conventions. Neither instance. " Oh,yes they do. For if there was no such large scale gatherings then we wouldn't have them either. Good point. thats m'man Bert
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Post by ranman77007 on Aug 20, 2007 2:29:32 GMT -5
I doubt if any reasonable person, of any denomination, could find fault with there being conventions. Would it surprise you to find out that other churches hold conventions too? They may call them conferrences or other things....even conventions. The worldly churches do all sorts of things that can't find precidence in the bible either. Ecumenical conferences, Vatican II, The Nicean Council...may or may not have anything that resembles anything biblical. Aren't we just nit-picking here....trying to bash 2x2 customs? Of course, if the 2x2s proclaim that there MUST be 2x2 conventions (as they are held) in order to attain salvation...then one might have a point. Does it matter? Yes. 2x2s condemn others for having buildings. Yet they have buildings for conventions. Of course it matters, if they say one thing and do another, we'ld like some explanation because their words don't make sense. Perhaps as they try to give an explanation they could see the error of their ways. Of course it matters. Brad there is a freedom in Christ. as in Shiloh, the feast was there every year. maybe something was there all year long...even if it was just a house, or a building..... and i am sure there are things where the conventions are, things that are there all year.... it was a special time of worship...
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Post by wingsofaneagle on Aug 20, 2007 10:44:55 GMT -5
"Small (25 or so) nomadic hunting, fishing, & gathering bands of loosely bound, voluntary aggregates of a few families, with occasional reunions of several allied bands for religious ceremonies and mate exchange".
Mate exhange... wow! That might add an interesting flavor to convention don't you think? More like a swingers convention eh? ROFL
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