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Post by sameasyesterday on Jul 20, 2007 9:07:50 GMT -5
I am an ex, but was invited to lunch by the workers. I decided to go and they picked out a special place to take me. It was quite expensive. Also, they decided to invite another friend along. We had a fair visit, but when the waiter came with the bill, he handed it to the older worker. In return, the older worker handed it to me. I was in shock, and still am. Did the worker do wrong by handing me that huge bill?
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Post by Ramona on Jul 20, 2007 9:23:06 GMT -5
It's difficult to comment on this -not knowing more details. In my experience of eating out with workers, which aren't alot - but, on two occassions the worker made it very clear he wanted to pay for our meal-- including for me and my children. Very willingly, I might add. Other times, I've made it clear to the server that I wanted to take the check. In any case, if going out to eat with the workers, I would be preprared to pay for the entire meal. Communication is the key! We are going out to eat again soon with a worker in my area and I already know he is buying - he has offered to do that, again. Whether I accept the offer for him to buy........we'll see. I suppose they are like anyone else. it makes them feel good.
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Post by guest12345 on Jul 20, 2007 9:33:45 GMT -5
What ever happened to if YOU invite someone to something you pay without question?? I guess since you were an "EX" you were supposed to be under the supposition that the workers are homeless and have nothing, therefore the friends always pick up the tab. In light of the fact that you no longer go to meetings and they knew that, I would have at least been courteous enough to go to an inexpensive restaurant if I were handing the tab to someone else!
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Post by sameasyesterday on Jul 20, 2007 9:34:02 GMT -5
I had plans to pay for the bill, but I had no idea it would be that expensive. I have been an ex for several years now. I didn't think the workers took money for us exes? I don't care, was glad to do it, but couldn't believe they asked me out and then handed me the bill.
Again, I wanted to pay for it, but didn't think they would let me. Have the workers changed?
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Post by las logged out on Jul 20, 2007 9:38:51 GMT -5
I am an ex, but was invited to lunch by the workers. I decided to go and they picked out a special place to take me. It was quite expensive. Also, they decided to invite another friend along. We had a fair visit, but when the waiter came with the bill, he handed it to the older worker. In return, the older worker handed it to me. I was in shock, and still am. Did the worker do wrong by handing me that huge bill? I myself I doubt very much that I would of even went
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Post by dollface on Jul 20, 2007 9:43:01 GMT -5
I remember when a worker made a big deal about returning money to a person "because they were a non-believer."
Sounds like this is another "rule" that has changed in the unchanging religion called The Truth.
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Post by reality on Jul 20, 2007 9:48:13 GMT -5
I remember when a worker made a big deal about returning money to a person "because they were a non-believer." Sounds like this is another "rule" that has changed in the unchanging religion called The Truth. Not really. More of an indication that things are the same. Things being the same means almost every situation, every doctrine, every belief varies from person to peron in the church.
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Post by another driveby on Jul 20, 2007 11:25:14 GMT -5
I really don't believe this...
Have done this a lot... different places... because I travel a lot... and meet workers often... and they have never handed me a bill. Most often that is because I have already paid for it.... very discreetly I might add.
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Post by sameasyesterday on Jul 20, 2007 11:40:43 GMT -5
Please don't call me a liar. It is true whether you want to believe it or not. Why do you think I would bother asking what others think. I am NOT a liar. This did happen.
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Post by Another negative vote on Jul 20, 2007 11:44:44 GMT -5
I really don't believe this... Have done this a lot... different places... because I travel a lot... and meet workers often... and they have never handed me a bill. Most often that is because I have already paid for it.... very discreetly I might add. I don't believe it happened or at least not as related by the poster. Or it could be another worker-scam that is being tried out where the workers have a deal with various eating establishments and invite guests for an over-priced meal, get the guest to pay, and then split the profits with the owner. Yeah - some workers will do anything to add to the millions the workers have in readiness for the huge scheduled Workers in Hawaii 2010 bash!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2007 12:02:54 GMT -5
I really don't believe this... Have done this a lot... different places... because I travel a lot... and meet workers often... and they have never handed me a bill. Most often that is because I have already paid for it.... very discreetly I might add. I don't believe it happened or at least not as related by the poster. Or it could be another worker-scam that is being tried out where the workers have a deal with various eating establishments and invite guests for an over-priced meal, get the guest to pay, and then split the profits with the owner. Yeah - some workers will do anything to add to the millions the workers have in readiness for the huge scheduled Workers in Hawaii 2010 bash! I agree that this story is hard to swallow. If it did happen as described, it was a rogue worker or the worker misunderstood the intentions of the other person to pay and there is no bigger message here.
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Post by sameasyesterday on Jul 20, 2007 12:14:05 GMT -5
No one has to believe it. God knows it is true and He is all that matters. It happened and that is it. I would not lie about something so stupid.
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Post by _ on Jul 20, 2007 12:19:04 GMT -5
No one has to believe it. God knows it is true and He is all that matters. It happened and that is it. I would not lie about something so stupid. How much was the bill?
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Post by withopeneyes (Mandy) on Jul 20, 2007 14:46:51 GMT -5
I know this has happened to several of my ex-professing friends. I also know that most of the younger workers realize that, if you do the inviting and whatnot, then you do the paying. In fact, they will usually tell you upfront, "Can we go out to eat? I'm paying!" One of the workers in my brother's area took him out for a meal and insisted on paying. I've also had a worker pay for my meal (just once, when I was a teen).
If the workers wanted to meet up with you, they could have asked you out to coffee, asked to stop by, asked you to meet them at someone elses house (which has always been uncomfortable for me.. but I suppose some people don't mind).... there's various other ways they could have invited you out, or invited themselves in... that were more respectful than sticking you with the bill. They probably are use to people paying for them and assumed. (But, I feel, if you aren't paying, then you shouldn't order an expensive item from the menu, or any coffee/soda that isn't free.)
Btw, here, workers claim they don't "take money" from ex's and non-believers but if you took them out for a meal, they would "allow you" to pay. So I suppose this only applies to offerings?
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Post by _ on Jul 20, 2007 14:50:12 GMT -5
how much was the bill?
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Post by las logged out on Jul 20, 2007 15:57:01 GMT -5
My guess is the bill would be plenty if steak is involved
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Post by same as yesterday on Jul 20, 2007 19:28:43 GMT -5
The bill was a little over $50 FOR FOUR.
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Post by miss manners on Jul 20, 2007 19:40:47 GMT -5
There is nothing wrong with reminding your host that he invited you, therefore you are not obligated for more than your own meal price.
It would not have been bad manners to have placed the appropriate amount on the table to cover your own costs, then politely excused yourself from the restaurant without discussing the ticket at all.
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Post by _ on Jul 20, 2007 21:05:09 GMT -5
The bill was a little over $50 FOR FOUR. That is not expensive at all... A dinner at a nice place for four would be at least $130 to 150... Where we go for a nice dinner it costs about $50 a person... Red Robin and Applebees would cost more then $50 for four...
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Post by Brad Lewis on Jul 20, 2007 22:19:37 GMT -5
I am an ex, but was invited to lunch by the workers. I decided to go and they picked out a special place to take me. It was quite expensive. Also, they decided to invite another friend along. We had a fair visit, but when the waiter came with the bill, he handed it to the older worker. In return, the older worker handed it to me. I was in shock, and still am. Did the worker do wrong by handing me that huge bill? If the workers invited you to lunch, then they should be expected to pay. This is normal social protocol. If you want to eat with someone and you aren't planning to pay for their meal, then you tell them that up front, by saying "Let's go Dutch" or something like that. No matter how you put it, it's rude for someone to inviite you to a meal and not pay. The workers don't follow social protocol in many instances and expect to be pandered to. I was surprised when you first wrote that they took you to a nice place, then when they gave you the bill, my expectations were realized. If they don't work, they shouldn't eat. That's what the Bible teaches. Brad
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Post by Brad Lewis on Jul 20, 2007 22:22:08 GMT -5
I had plans to pay for the bill, but I had no idea it would be that expensive. I have been an ex for several years now. I didn't think the workers took money for us exes? I don't care, was glad to do it, but couldn't believe they asked me out and then handed me the bill. Again, I wanted to pay for it, but didn't think they would let me. Have the workers changed? When I was in the work, Craig Jacobsen wouldn't take money from some people. But I think it was a ploy to let people know what he thought of them. Many workers are very proud. They act like they're special (they are, but not in the way they think . Dave Nealon when he was in the Portland field accepted hundreds of dollars from Phu Nguyen, but would tell other people behind Phu's back that Phu was a "bad man". From what I've found out in my own experience, this is typical and can be expected of manipulative workers. Brad
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Post by Brad Lewis on Jul 20, 2007 22:25:01 GMT -5
The bill was a little over $50 FOR FOUR. That is expensive. I totally have to agree with miss manners. No matter the expense, it's trivial, compared to the principles involved of honesty. These are certainly not people to be trusted. Brad
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Post by withopeneyes (Mandy) on Jul 20, 2007 23:04:20 GMT -5
I dont think 50 bucks is a HUGE amount of money, but it doesn't seem like those who came along made frugal choices. And, if I recall correctly, the workers decided to invite another friend along, which means you paid for this person as well.
I would feel a bit ruffled if I was invited out, and then I'm stuck with a bill for this other person in addition. Why didn't this other person offer to pay for their portion?
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Post by moss picker on Jul 20, 2007 23:09:37 GMT -5
The bill was a little over $50 FOR FOUR. That is expensive. Brad $50 for four people is expensive? Maybe for a sad sack, washed up, mentally unstable, moss picker with no life it is.
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Post by miss manners on Jul 20, 2007 23:13:34 GMT -5
The bill was a little over $50 FOR FOUR. You should have laid out $15.00 ($12.50 + 15% tip of $1.86, rounded to next highest dollar) and then walked quietly away.
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Post by TMS on Jul 20, 2007 23:16:54 GMT -5
I dont think 50 bucks is a HUGE amount of money, but it doesn't seem like those who came along made frugal choices. And, if I recall correctly, the workers decided to invite another friend along, which means you paid for this person as well. I would feel a bit ruffled if I was invited out, and then I'm stuck with a bill for this other person in addition. Why didn't this other person offer to pay for their portion? Where I come from, $50 for 4 is super cheap - when we have 4 on routine its about $120.00. So anyways thats not too bad, so just pay.
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Post by withopeneyes (Mandy) on Jul 20, 2007 23:22:19 GMT -5
TMS, $50 would be about the amount you'd pay for a decent meal (with a soda or coffee) in my area. $10 a plate is the usual.
But still, if I was invited out to a meal, I would automatically assume that I was paying for MY OWN, unless it was said otherwise. If I was with the workers, I might even assume that I could possibly be paying for their meals, but I would NOT expect to pay for the extra friend invited along.
Since eating out is a luxury, and some people could use the money to pay a bill or buy groceries, $50 can be quite a bit. Those who are not in a financial squeeze may forget that.
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Post by meetinusedtobe on Jul 20, 2007 23:25:41 GMT -5
What get together for workers in Hawaii in 2010?
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