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Post by Roselyn T on Dec 4, 2019 3:10:17 GMT -5
You didn't answer my question nathan !!! Surely if God wanted all the Workers to preach the trinity he would have revealed that to all of them years ago??? As for more F&Ws believing the trinity, I think a good indication of this is the views by people on the Friends FB pages.... Aand they sure are not accepting the trinity ! Like I said God tried to but most of them would NOT listen. Those workers were stubborn and now most of the friends paid the price to be known world wide as anti-Christ people.๐๐๐ So are you saying you belong to the anti-Christ people !!! I am curious how you know that God tried to speak to Workers back in the 1900s ....also if the 2x2s were so right surely God would have been able to speak to even the "stubborn ones" !!!! You are chasing your tail nathan !!
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Post by Roselyn T on Dec 4, 2019 3:14:21 GMT -5
So are the Workers teaching in line with Jesus as far as him living in Venus ? Yes I know you do that is why I question why you even belong to the 2x2 church ! God the Father, Christ, the Holy Spirit, all of the angels including Satan are from Interior Venus planet will be accepted among the 2x2 maybe AFTER Jesus returns to rule. After my death, I Try will you send you all an email where I will be staying/Venus, if God allowed me to do. I would NOT be surprised ALL of Old and New Testament believers souls are waiting in the planet of Venus! Before they appear with Christ in the sky.Wow so I think this post sums up how far you views really are from the F&Ws nathan !!! You are so mixed up in your beliefs.....yet just a couple of days ago you told chuck he was mixed up !!!!
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Post by Roselyn T on Dec 4, 2019 3:18:25 GMT -5
Why o' why did they keep it from us? Why did they not tell us? For years I firmly believed we had no name. We did refer to ourselves as 'The Meetings,' or the Truth or The Way. Now I learn we had a real name after all. The Church with no name, is actually called The Sunday Trinity Worship Meetings! Can anyone please answer me....why didn't they tell us? Why did they keep it from us? Why did they find it necessary to hide their name? How often in the past I deflected names like Cooneyites when people tried to label us. Dippers, Tramps, etc. All well fielded because we didn't take a name. Why, why, why, did they keep it from us. The Sunday Trinity Worship Meetings! Well mountain it seems that there us a lot we weren't told.....goodness me who would have thought that JC lived in Venus !!! Where would the F&Ws be without nathan ๐๐
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Post by sharingtheriches on Dec 4, 2019 4:20:08 GMT -5
Well there you have it mountain !! Its all about to change !!! I just wonder where all those people who professed in the early 1900s that DID NOT believe in the trinity will end up ? Goodness me some lived and died before nathan was even a 2x2 ....!!! I wonder about those who professed in early 1900โs and believed in the Trinity, heard workers speak pleasantly about the Trinity for 40 some years, then suddenly are told โwe donโt talk about the Trinity.โ How confused they were, did they hold to believing the Trinity and not talk about it or did they just refuse to think about it at all. Where are they now? It had to have been a very spiritual traumatic time.
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Post by sharingtheriches on Dec 4, 2019 4:22:22 GMT -5
Canโt say that they didnโt! So why didn't they preach it reborn ? Why were we raised to believe that the trinity is a false Catholic doctrine They did preach the Trinity until the early 1950โs. Ir maybe late 1949โs.
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Post by sharingtheriches on Dec 4, 2019 4:27:06 GMT -5
God tried to tell them through the workers who believe and taught the TRINITY and some were excommunicated from the work, and that put FEAR on the workers who believed in the TRINITY to keep quite it. NOT anymore the cat is out of the bag, RT.ย The Teaching of the TRINITY/Jesus is God will flourish once again within the 2x2s group in the near future.ย If that was the case nathan surely God would have revealed to the other Workers that the trinity was right? As for the trinity doctrine flourishing in the future....I think maybe you are jumping the gun on that !!! No. The beginning workers spoke positively of the Trinity. It was some of the second round workers who decided they needed to be greatly different then other churches, so out went the Trinity. I know they taught the Trinity because my Gram and her children all knew the Trinity. Jack Carroll spoke about it in California where my oldest aunt and her family lived. They didnโt get that leg pulled out from under them until in the early 1950โs, when they moved to Oklahoma.
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Post by mountain on Dec 4, 2019 4:44:48 GMT -5
Yes, sadly many went thru some horrible things because of their beliefs. The good news is that now we are seeing the results of those who stood true to what God had revealed to them. Hopefully, our generation of the friends and workers and the NEXT generation can change the last 70 years workers errors, mistakes on The Trinity is a heresy and devil/Pagan doctrine! Before it gets worse.Well the times they are a'changin.' They now even have trinity in their name. The Sunday Trinity Worship Meetings. You deserve a lot of credit for all your hard work on this issue Nathan. What do we call you for short? The SWTMs ? That's a little bit hard on the tongue. How about the STrinWorMs? The Strinworms. Are you okay with that? After all, it's your idea. You deserve the credit!
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Post by mountain on Dec 4, 2019 4:46:45 GMT -5
So why didn't God reveal it to the Workers 70 years ago ? Surely if they are the only right way God would have make sure they preached what was right reborn ? Reborn is making a serious effort to seize my mantle!
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Post by mountain on Dec 4, 2019 4:48:10 GMT -5
Canโt say that they didnโt! So why didn't they preach it reborn ? Why were we raised to believe that the trinity is a false Catholic doctrine Now the Strinworms are saying it is a true Catholic doctrine!
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Post by mountain on Dec 4, 2019 4:51:18 GMT -5
God tried to tell them through the workers who believe and taught the TRINITY and some were excommunicated from the work, and that put FEAR on the workers who believed in the TRINITY to keep quite it. NOT anymore the cat is out of the bag, RT.ย The Teaching of the TRINITY/Jesus is God will flourish once again within the 2x2s group in the near future.ย If that was the case nathan surely God would have revealed to the other Workers that the trinity was right? As for the trinity doctrine flourishing in the future....I think maybe you are jumping the gun on that !!! I see a divide in the fellowship forming. Those who believe in the trinity will be known as the true Strinworms. Those who reject the trinity will continue as the true Church with no name.
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Post by mountain on Dec 4, 2019 4:53:59 GMT -5
Yes, I believe in the workers if their teachings are in line with the teaching of Jesus. If what they teach are NOT in line with Jesus teaching I throw their ideas out in the garbage. So are the Workers teaching in line with Jesus as far as him living in Venus nathan ? Yes I know you do,that is why I question why you even belong to the 2x2 church ! These revelations and beliefs are progressive. First becoming a Strinworm and then the rest follows on.
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Post by mountain on Dec 4, 2019 4:59:27 GMT -5
Why o' why did they keep it from us? Why did they not tell us? For years I firmly believed we had no name. We did refer to ourselves as 'The Meetings,' or the Truth or The Way. Now I learn we had a real name after all. The Church with no name, is actually called The Sunday Trinity Worship Meetings! Can anyone please answer me....why didn't they tell us? Why did they keep it from us? Why did they find it necessary to hide their name? How often in the past I deflected names like Cooneyites when people tried to label us. Dippers, Tramps, etc. All well fielded because we didn't take a name. Why, why, why, did they keep it from us. The Sunday Trinity Worship Meetings! Well mountain it seems that there us a lot we weren't told.....goodness me who would have thought that JC lived in Venus !!! Where would the F&Ws be without nathan ๐๐ I have already expressed my gratitude to Nathan which I'm sure he appreciates. This isn't the first time that I have found him to be a very enlightening character. It was he who informed me that the NAZIs had military bases in Occupied Europe during World War II. I didn't believe him on that occasion, but I have since apologised (I think?).
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Post by mountain on Dec 4, 2019 5:02:15 GMT -5
So why didn't they preach it reborn ? Why were we raised to believe that the trinity is a false Catholic doctrine They did preach the Trinity until the early 1950โs. Ir maybe late 1949โs. My goodness....so it goes all the way back to the beginning?
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Post by nathan on Dec 4, 2019 9:08:50 GMT -5
They did preach the Trinity until the early 1950โs. Ir maybe late 1949โs. My goodness....so it goes all the way back to the beginning? Yep, it does... Jesus/God doesn't LIE you know. He foretold about His TRUE church continues on the earth to the time of His returns. Jesus said to the apostles in Matthew 16: 18 "Upon this ROCK I will build MY CHURCH and the gates of HELL shall NOT overcome it." Matthew 24:14 "And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come."
Jesus said in Matthew 28:18-20 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth. Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world. Amen.
Jesus said in Acts 1:8 But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth.
Read Rev. chapters 11 and 12 God revealed the status of His TRUE church survives through the centuries. Here is the TRUE Church of Christ and apostles history that God has preserved and left on records for us to read to see Jesus prophesy was TRUE.
Title: The Pilgrim Church Author: E. H. Broadbent READ Chapter V history of the Vaudois/Waldenses
Date first posted: July 2010 gutenberg.net.au/ebooks10/1000351h.html
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Post by nathan on Dec 4, 2019 9:12:38 GMT -5
Well mountain it seems that there us a lot we weren't told.....goodness me who would have thought that JC lived in Venus !!! Where would the F&Ws be without nathan ๐๐ I have already expressed my gratitude to Nathan which I'm sure he appreciates. This isn't the first time that I have found him to be a very enlightening character. It was he who informed me that the NAZIs had military bases in Occupied Europe during World War II. I didn't believe him on that occasion, but I have since apologised (I think?). Well, thanks for your kind words, I try to search these things very carefully. Time will prove MOST of what I have posted on TMB are TRUE and will come to PASS. I give the credit to the Godhead= Trinity/Triune God-Father, Christ and Holy Spirit for revealing these understanding and revelation to me to share with others. To prepare what is coming! on the earth.
I hope and pray people will take it seriously to search and study these things out for themselves by praying to the Godhead to reveal these things to them.
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Post by sharingtheriches on Dec 4, 2019 11:28:47 GMT -5
They did preach the Trinity until the early 1950โs. Ir maybe late 1949โs. My goodness....so it goes all the way back to the beginning? Cutting remark? Iโm sorry I didnโt post that the 2x2s started in the late 1800 and preached the Trinity up until 1950โs or maybe the late 40โs. Most readers know what I meant! ๐ฅด
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Post by mountain on Dec 4, 2019 12:03:49 GMT -5
My goodness....so it goes all the way back to the beginning? Cutting remark? Iโm sorry I didnโt post that the 2x2s started in the late 1800 and preached the Trinity up until 1950โs or maybe the late 40โs. Most readers know what I meant! ๐ฅด Try 'tongue in cheek' remark?
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Post by nathan on Dec 4, 2019 14:24:17 GMT -5
Well there you have it mountain !! Its all about to change !!! I just wonder where all those people who professed in the early 1900s that DID NOT believe in the trinity will end up ? Goodness me some lived and died before nathan was even a 2x2 ....!!! I wonder about those who professed in early 1900โs and believed in the Trinity, heard workers speak pleasantly about the Trinity for 40 some years, then suddenly are told โwe donโt talk about the Trinity.โ How confused they were, did they hold to believing the Trinity and not talk about it or did they just refuse to think about it at all. Where are they now? It had to have been a very spiritual traumatic time. ** You need to read The excommunication of the overseer John Starkweather, Truitt and his brother in Montana. They preached the Trinity and Jesus God because that what the senior workers in the early days had taught them. The anti-Trinity overseers and senior workers scattered the Trinity believers from Montana, Alaska to different states and Canada. It was a BIG Mess and the 2x2 has been going down hill after 1970s in USA and now is KNOWN as anti-Trinity Cultist believers around the world.
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Post by sharingtheriches on Dec 4, 2019 14:29:42 GMT -5
If that was the case nathan surely God would have revealed to the other Workers that the trinity was right? As for the trinity doctrine flourishing in the future....I think maybe you are jumping the gun on that !!! I see a divide in the fellowship forming. Those who believe in the trinity will be known as the true Strinworms. Those who reject the trinity will continue as the true Church with no name. A considerable number of the Christian churches here allow Trinity believers and non- trinity believers to come to same church. The difference of what the church tenants are in their statement of faith. And if the opposing group donโt like their statement of faith then itโs up to them either accept the faith but the Trinity concept will not be pushed upon you. It is rarely outwardly spoken on, however if any of the verses that show the Trinity God are included as if nothing unusual. If a question is asked, a private or small group discussion will be slated. Otherwise peace is to reign with the common faith that Jesus is our Lord and Saviour.
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Post by mountain on Dec 4, 2019 14:34:21 GMT -5
I see a divide in the fellowship forming. Those who believe in the trinity will be known as the true Strinworms. Those who reject the trinity will continue as the true Church with no name. A considerable number of the Christian churches here allow Trinity believers and non- trinity believers to come to same church. The difference of what the church tenants are in their statement of faith. And if the opposing group donโt like their statement of faith then itโs up to them either accept the faith but the Trinity concept will not be pushed upon you. It is rarely outwardly spoken on, however if any of the verses that show the Trinity God are included as if nothing unusual. If a question is asked, a private or small group discussion will be slated. Otherwise peace is to reign with the common faith that Jesus is our Lord and Saviour. I have no doubt they will permit pro-trinity preaching, but not preaching that is anti-trinitarian? In my experience most mainstream churches claim they are inclusive of differences of Christian beliefs, until it comes to questioning the trinity. Keep your beliefs to yourself, but don't go public with them.
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Post by mountain on Dec 4, 2019 14:36:14 GMT -5
I wonder about those who professed in early 1900โs and believed in the Trinity, heard workers speak pleasantly about the Trinity for 40 some years, then suddenly are told โwe donโt talk about the Trinity.โ How confused they were, did they hold to believing the Trinity and not talk about it or did they just refuse to think about it at all. Where are they now? It had to have been a very spiritual traumatic time. ** You need to read The excommunication of the overseer John Starkweather, Truitt and his brother in Montana. They preached the Trinity and Jesus God because that what the senior workers in the early days had taught them. The anti-Trinity overseers and senior workers scattered the Trinity believers from Montana, Alaska to different states and Canada. It was Mess and the 2x2 has been going down hill and now is KNOWN as anti- Trinity Cultist believers around the world.I'm not part of them, but on this point they should stand true to their God and their Jesus.
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Post by snow on Dec 4, 2019 17:25:46 GMT -5
Why o' why did they keep it from us? Why did they not tell us? For years I firmly believed we had no name. We did refer to ourselves as 'The Meetings,' or the Truth or The Way. Now I learn we had a real name after all. The Church with no name, is actually called The Sunday Trinity Worship Meetings! Can anyone please answer me....why didn't they tell us? Why did they keep it from us? Why did they find it necessary to hide their name? How often in the past I deflected names like Cooneyites when people tried to label us. Dippers, Tramps, etc. All well fielded because we didn't take a name. Why, why, why, did they keep it from us. The Sunday Trinity Worship Meetings! Shhh I heard they were closet RCC's....
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Post by snow on Dec 4, 2019 17:32:50 GMT -5
Yes, sadly many went thru some horrible things because of their beliefs. The good news is that now we are seeing the results of those who stood true to what God had revealed to them. Hopefully, our generation of the friends and workers and the NEXT generation can change the last 70 years workers errors, mistakes on The Trinity is a heresy and devil/Pagan doctrine! Before it gets worse.It's longer than 70 years Nathan. My grandfather professed by Willie Jamieson in 1915 and never believed in the Trinity, so I imagine that Willie never taught that doctrine as early as 1915 if ever. He professed under Ed Cooney and they don't believe Jesus is God either. So when you say the early workers taught the Trinity, that clearly isn't the case for W. Jamieson. Also, in TTT it says that he labored in Manitoba and Oregon before he left for China in 1926. I know for a fact he was in Saskatchewan for some of those years because that's where he spent one winter on my grandfather's ranch with his companion which I don't know the name of.
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Post by snow on Dec 4, 2019 17:36:53 GMT -5
God the Father, Christ, the Holy Spirit, all of the angels including Satan are from Interior Venus planet will be accepted among the 2x2 maybe AFTER Jesus returns to rule. After my death, I Try will you send you all an email where I will be staying/Venus, if God allowed me to do. I would NOT be surprised ALL of Old and New Testament believers souls are waiting in the planet of Venus! Before they appear with Christ in the sky. definitely send an email to the atheists and agnostics on this board it would make their hearts beat faster for sure... LOL didn't know heaven had internet. Learn something new everyday!
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Post by snow on Dec 4, 2019 17:38:26 GMT -5
definitely send an email to the atheists and agnostics on this board it would make their hearts beat faster for sure... hahaha... definitely they might croak before their time. I will try to post in red letters so they KNOW it would be me. Oh Good!! I wouldn't want to misinterpret where it came from and think it was from God or something! (Just teasing you Nathan... )
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Post by snow on Dec 4, 2019 17:40:31 GMT -5
So why didn't they preach it reborn ? Why were we raised to believe that the trinity is a false Catholic doctrine They did preach the Trinity until the early 1950โs. Ir maybe late 1949โs. Not in Canada. Maybe where you were, but Willie Jamieson didn't preach the Trinity to my grandfather when he professed through him in 1915. Never believed in the Trinity.
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Post by snow on Dec 4, 2019 17:44:54 GMT -5
A considerable number of the Christian churches here allow Trinity believers and non- trinity believers to come to same church. The difference of what the church tenants are in their statement of faith. And if the opposing group donโt like their statement of faith then itโs up to them either accept the faith but the Trinity concept will not be pushed upon you. It is rarely outwardly spoken on, however if any of the verses that show the Trinity God are included as if nothing unusual. If a question is asked, a private or small group discussion will be slated. Otherwise peace is to reign with the common faith that Jesus is our Lord and Saviour. I have no doubt they will permit pro-trinity preaching, but not preaching that is anti-trinitarian? In my experience most mainstream churches claim they are inclusive of differences of Christian beliefs, until it comes to questioning the trinity. Keep your beliefs to yourself, but don't go public with them. Now that sounds really familiar...
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Post by Roselyn T on Dec 4, 2019 19:21:47 GMT -5
I have already expressed my gratitude to Nathan which I'm sure he appreciates. This isn't the first time that I have found him to be a very enlightening character. It was he who informed me that the NAZIs had military bases in Occupied Europe during World War II. I didn't believe him on that occasion, but I have since apologised (I think?). Well, thanks for your kind words, I try to search these things very carefully. Time will prove MOST of what I have posted on TMB are TRUE and will come to PASS. I give the credit to the Godhead= Trinity/Triune God-Father, Christ and Holy Spirit for revealing these understanding and revelation to me to share with others. To prepare what is coming! on the earth.
I hope and pray people will take it seriously to search and study these things out for themselves by praying to the Godhead to reveal these things to them.
OMG .....๐ณ๐๐๐๐๐๐ Goodness me where would the F&Ws be without nathan !!! I wonder where all the people that professed before nathan was even born survived ......or maybe they were all wrong !!! Strange that God couldn't reveal all these things to the early Workers ....but did to nathan !!!
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