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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Nov 13, 2018 1:41:10 GMT -5
The sad part of excommunicating people from a church group often is so emotionally devastating because if the church is the "only true church" then the excomnicated feel like they're doomed to a list eternity. If the person doing the excommunication would stop to think that the process is so emotionally abusive that maybe they should just not go about declaring their church the only true church. The person that does the excommunication will be held responsible for the person they've excommunicated, soul. I'm sure I don't want the job of excommunicating anyone! However it might be good for people that's been excommunicated, to just think about Jesus being the only one who can proclaim yeah or nay of who's saved and who isn't. By keeping our hearts in touch with Jesus can mean we are trying to do our best and that whatever other mankind says or does to one, that they are judging by unrighteous judgment but Jesus will be the one who says who is where. Well what would there even be any reason for excommunication if it didn't cause any pain and anguish ?
Isn't that the whole point ?
To scare the hell out of all the others?
That's how religions control people!
You would think that religious people would find something useful to do with their lives rather than going round scaring the hell out of people. I guess it takes a certain kind of person. Maybe they are suffering from some kind of Psychosis?
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Post by magpie1 on Nov 13, 2018 1:51:18 GMT -5
NOTHING BETTER TO DO?? OVER 200 POSTS ON THIS SUBJECT??? OH,WASN'T IT LOVELY 2 PEOPLE WERE SAVED IN BULLAMAKANKA? YET WORLDWIDE MANY,MANY,CHILDREN ARE STILL BEING DESTROYED BY CRIMINAL PAEDOPHILE UNNATURAL CELIBATE DEMANDED WORKERS CSA!!! "CHILD SEXUAL ABUSE,BUT AN ENTRY RELATING TO THAT,GETS,MAYBE 20 RESPONSES,'WHY"?? Magpie.PS.YOUR BRAINS AND HEARTS PRIORITY SEEMS IMBALANCED DOESN'T IT??? WHAT WAS THE USE OF THE CROSS,IF A HAIR BUN IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN THE INJUSTICE???
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Post by dmmichgood on Nov 13, 2018 1:53:55 GMT -5
Well what would there even be any reason for excommunication if it didn't cause any pain and anguish ?
Isn't that the whole point ?
To scare the hell out of all the others?
That's how religions control people!
You would think that religious people would find something useful to do with their lives rather than going round scaring the hell out of people. I guess it takes a certain kind of person. Maybe they are suffering from some kind of Psychosis? Well, -unfortunately, not even the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders dares to list any of the favorite delusions of religion as a psychosis!
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Post by dmmichgood on Nov 13, 2018 4:40:36 GMT -5
Can you give us some examples of each? sacrificing animals ceremonial, prayer spiritual i do the latter.... By what criteria do you use to decide which is the right one?
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Post by sharingtheriches on Nov 13, 2018 11:22:45 GMT -5
The sad part of excommunicating people from a church group often is so emotionally devastating because if the church is the "only true church" then the excomnicated feel like they're doomed to a list eternity. If the person doing the excommunication would stop to think that the process is so emotionally abusive that maybe they should just not go about declaring their church the only true church. The person that does the excommunication will be held responsible for the person they've excommunicated, soul. I'm sure I don't want the job of excommunicating anyone! However it might be good for people that's been excommunicated, to just think about Jesus being the only one who can proclaim yeah or nay of who's saved and who isn't. By keeping our hearts in touch with Jesus can mean we are trying to do our best and that whatever other mankind says or does to one, that they are judging by unrighteous judgment but Jesus will be the one who says who is where. Well what would there even be any reason for excommunication if it didn't cause any pain and anguish ?
Isn't that the whole point ?
To scare the hell out of all the others?
That's how religions control people!
IMO, excommunication by human to another human just says that the excommunicator doesn't want to deal with him anymore. The reasons for that could be simply personality conflict. However the excuse usually has to do with causing someone to look at themselves honestly.
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Post by sharingtheriches on Nov 13, 2018 11:30:48 GMT -5
sacrificing animals ceremonial, prayer spiritual i do the latter.... I still do the first, not the latter. Sometimes I burn the offerings. Were you outside the camp? 😉
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Post by sharingtheriches on Nov 13, 2018 11:32:11 GMT -5
sacrificing animals ceremonial, prayer spiritual i do the latter.... By what criteria do you use to decide which is the right one?Animal rights association, perhaps? 😉
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Post by sharingtheriches on Nov 13, 2018 11:34:13 GMT -5
NOTHING BETTER TO DO?? OVER 200 POSTS ON THIS SUBJECT??? OH,WASN'T IT LOVELY 2 PEOPLE WERE SAVED IN BULLAMAKANKA? YET WORLDWIDE MANY,MANY,CHILDREN ARE STILL BEING DESTROYED BY CRIMINAL PAEDOPHILE UNNATURAL CELIBATE DEMANDED WORKERS CSA!!! "CHILD SEXUAL ABUSE,BUT AN ENTRY RELATING TO THAT,GETS,MAYBE 20 RESPONSES,'WHY"?? Magpie.PS.YOUR BRAINS AND HEARTS PRIORITY SEEMS IMBALANCED DOESN'T IT??? WHAT WAS THE USE OF THE CROSS,IF A HAIR BUN IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN THE INJUSTICE??? Some feel the forcing of young people to look like older ladies is an injustice also.
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Post by jetmech on Nov 13, 2018 13:06:47 GMT -5
NOTHING BETTER TO DO?? OVER 200 POSTS ON THIS SUBJECT??? OH,WASN'T IT LOVELY 2 PEOPLE WERE SAVED IN BULLAMAKANKA? YET WORLDWIDE MANY,MANY,CHILDREN ARE STILL BEING DESTROYED BY CRIMINAL PAEDOPHILE UNNATURAL CELIBATE DEMANDED WORKERS CSA!!! "CHILD SEXUAL ABUSE,BUT AN ENTRY RELATING TO THAT,GETS,MAYBE 20 RESPONSES,'WHY"?? Magpie.PS.YOUR BRAINS AND HEARTS PRIORITY SEEMS IMBALANCED DOESN'T IT??? WHAT WAS THE USE OF THE CROSS,IF A HAIR BUN IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN THE INJUSTICE??? Some feel the forcing of young people to look like older ladies is an injustice also. The injustice is if the hair bun is on a man and that man wants to act like a female. See?
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Post by sharingtheriches on Nov 13, 2018 13:41:33 GMT -5
Some feel the forcing of young people to look like older ladies is an injustice also. The injustice is if the hair bun is on a man and that man wants to act like a femake. See? I was a crazy young horse person. I got me a horse, and first time I went riding, I Did get a pair of women's pants and shirt on, but I kept my hair up in it's bun. We rode about 15 miles and my hair was down after the first five miles. Lost all my hair pins. I learned after that to "plait" that mop to keep it from flying every direction.
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Post by snow on Nov 13, 2018 15:05:16 GMT -5
Do you follow the Old Testament "as closely as possible" @wally ? depends on if its ceremonial or spiritual...one has to be able to discern between the two. Why? If it's all God's word and commandments, why isn't all of it still considered important and the way you're supposed to live life. I'm glad you don't, don't get me wrong, but I have to wonder how you feel confident enough to just decide arbitrarily what you think applies now and what doesn't. Especially when some of the things Orthodox Jews still adhere to, Christians don't. Same God right?
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Post by snow on Nov 13, 2018 15:09:50 GMT -5
You would think that religious people would find something useful to do with their lives rather than going round scaring the hell out of people. I guess it takes a certain kind of person. Maybe they are suffering from some kind of Psychosis? Well, -unfortunately, not even the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders dares to list any of the favorite delusions of religion as a psychosis!
You really need to wonder about that. It's not normal to hear and see and talk to invisible beings. It's usually called schizophrenia. Yet religious people do that all the time and then they get upset when people are skeptical that any of it's true. Even they should understand why we might be a tad skeptical. They certainly don't believe in different religions from their own having miracles, Gods they talk to and see etc. Yet they think everyone should just accept their religions strangeness without question!!
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Post by BobWilliston on Nov 13, 2018 15:27:53 GMT -5
Can you give us some examples of each? sacrificing animals ceremonial, prayer spiritual i do the latter.... So the Israelites could have dispensed with the whole burnt offerings?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2018 16:15:40 GMT -5
sacrificing animals ceremonial, prayer spiritual i do the latter.... So the Israelites could have dispensed with the whole burnt offerings? after Christ, yes....
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Post by BobWilliston on Nov 13, 2018 16:22:01 GMT -5
So the Israelites could have dispensed with the whole burnt offerings? after Christ, yes.... You're so slippery. You know I was talking about your OT, not the NT.
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Post by sharingtheriches on Nov 13, 2018 17:52:55 GMT -5
You're so slippery. You know I was talking about your OT, not the NT. You likely know more about this, but it wasn't Christ that Jews quit their offerings, was it. Wasn't it the loss of the Temple which was done in Nero's reign?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2018 17:55:41 GMT -5
You're so slippery. You know I was talking about your OT, not the NT. You likely know more about this, but it wasn't Christ that Jews quit their offerings, was it. Wasn't it the loss of the Temple which was done in Nero's reign? the jews that followed Christ quit sacrificing animals with his death on the cross and resurrection....
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Post by Roselyn T on Nov 13, 2018 18:04:37 GMT -5
Do you eat bacon @wally ? Do you wear clothes made from mixed material ? Also we are talking about the OLD TESTAMENT not the NEW ! This is what happens when a person picks and chooses from "the book" what suits their views !
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Post by Roselyn T on Nov 13, 2018 18:06:06 GMT -5
Some feel the forcing of young people to look like older ladies is an injustice also. The injustice is if the hair bun is on a man and that man wants to act like a femake. See? Oh so every man that has their hair in a bun wants to act like a women jetmech ? Talk about generalizations !
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2018 18:26:49 GMT -5
Do you eat bacon @wally ? Do you wear clothes made from mixed material ? Also we are talking about the OLD TESTAMENT not the NEW ! This is what happens when a person picks and chooses from "the book" what suits their views ! sorry i was speaking about the whole bible...keep up...
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Post by Roselyn T on Nov 13, 2018 18:34:53 GMT -5
Do you eat bacon @wally ? Do you wear clothes made from mixed material ? Also we are talking about the OLD TESTAMENT not the NEW ! This is what happens when a person picks and chooses from "the book" what suits their views ! sorry i was speaking about the whole bible...keep up... @wally maybe YOU should keep up, if you bothered to check you would see that I asked you on the page before "Do you follow as closely as possible everything in the Old Testament" !!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2018 18:36:29 GMT -5
sorry i was speaking about the whole bible...keep up... @wally maybe YOU should keep up, if you bothered to check you would see that I asked you on the page before "Do you follow as closely as possible everything in the Old Testament" !! and i answered your post...keep up
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Post by Roselyn T on Nov 13, 2018 18:42:43 GMT -5
@wally maybe YOU should keep up, if you bothered to check you would see that I asked you on the page before "Do you follow as closely as possible everything in the Old Testament" !! and i answered your post...keep up How do you "discern" what is ceremonial and what is spiritual @wally ? Do you eat bacon @wally ?
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Post by Roselyn T on Nov 13, 2018 18:43:34 GMT -5
sacrificing animals ceremonial, prayer spiritual i do the latter.... By what criteria do you use to decide which is the right one?You didn't answer this either @wally !
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2018 18:44:28 GMT -5
and i answered your post...keep up How do you "discern" what is ceremonial and what is spiritual @wally ? Do you eat bacon @wally ? serious prayer reading and revelation....yes i do covered by peters vision and pauls commentary on eating things....
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2018 18:46:00 GMT -5
By what criteria do you use to decide which is the right one? You didn't answer this either @wally ! covered in the post just above this one....missed it initially....
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Post by Roselyn T on Nov 13, 2018 19:17:39 GMT -5
How do you "discern" what is ceremonial and what is spiritual @wally ? Do you eat bacon @wally ? serious prayer reading and revelation....yes i do covered by peters vision and pauls commentary on eating things.... So in reality you do pick and choose what suits your belief @wally !
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2018 19:41:25 GMT -5
serious prayer reading and revelation....yes i do covered by peters vision and pauls commentary on eating things.... So in reality you do pick and choose what suits your belief @wally ! its a tried and tested method for the last 2000 years to engage in prayer, reading and revelation when looking at scripture i'm good with it whether or not you like it...
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