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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Jan 19, 2019 14:47:33 GMT -5
I changed my post a bit that you've quoted, Curly. Some become slaves, some become rulers, like on earth here. People like Trump who we know are aliens from the highest order become slaves when they die and go to venus. He likely won't go over board / over the side but we all pass away and go to venus where good people become rulers and those who were bad rulers on earth become slaves. Well that makes sense. MH370 can be seen on Venus with a powerful telescope. The Venusians were running low on a particular metal and some other stuff that can be found on that model aeroplane so they captured that. Or should that be raptured. I will find the murky youtube video soon and post it once I have finished my breakfast of magic mushrooms that Nate recommended I take for better hallucinations.
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Post by nathan on Jan 19, 2019 16:14:03 GMT -5
I changed my post a bit that you've quoted, Curly. Some become slaves, some become rulers, like on earth here. People like Trump who we know are aliens from the highest order become slaves when they die and go to venus. He likely won't go over board / over the side but we all pass away and go to venus where good people become rulers and those who were bad rulers on earth become slaves. ** ALL unbelievers souls belong to Satan and he is theirs god of under world. He is their god and Master. Jesus came down from heaven to set us/believers FREE from Satan slavery/bondage or ETERNAL death.
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Post by Grant on Jan 19, 2019 17:19:43 GMT -5
According to the workers, all who do not profess through them and especially those who attend other churches are bound for hell. Their focus has been on the evils of other ministers rather than unbelievers in Jesus.
A greater sin is someone who leaves their sect for another church who are seen as doomed forever.
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Post by jetmech on Jan 19, 2019 17:31:51 GMT -5
** What a bunch of Baloney! If the earth is FLAT then how come we don't see the planes, ships that disappeaered in Bermuda Triangle fallen off or coming through the bottom of the flat earth. If the earth was hollow why wouldn't it just collapse in on itself? Makes about as much sense. None. Neither is possible. Hollow earths and flat earths are not feasible. I did know you were a physicist Snow. That's impressive! I believe the earth does note collapse in on itself because the equator spins at a faster speed than the poles and the resulting centrifugal force induced. Also, Coriolis force ( the force that causes wind and great storms on the earth), also plays a factor. I'm just sayin'
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Post by jetmech on Jan 19, 2019 17:33:30 GMT -5
I changed my post a bit that you've quoted, Curly. Some become slaves, some become rulers, like on earth here. People like Trump who we know are aliens from the highest order become slaves when they die and go to venus. He likely won't go over board / over the side but we all pass away and go to venus where good people become rulers and those who were bad rulers on earth become slaves. ** ALL unbelievers souls belong to Satan and he is theirs god of under world. He is their god and Master. Jesus came down from heaven to set us/believers FREE from Satan slavery/bondage or ETERNAL death. I'm glad you mentioned this Nathan … I believe this is what was meant in the Bible where it says " … the truth will set you free …" (Free from Satan and sin).
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Post by Roselyn T on Jan 19, 2019 19:57:24 GMT -5
** I told you in the past, there is 800 miles thick crust below the ground all around the earth, there are TWO openings North and South poles, each opening is 400 miles wide. After 800 miles thick crust then it is empty open sky/space with the core/ central sun. nathan the prophet. 1 Chronicles 29:29:"Now the acts of David the king, first and last, behold, they are written in the book of Samuel the seer, and in the book of Nathan the prophet, and in the book of Gad the seer."Prophet nathan has spoken ! He has told us so it has to be right !
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Post by Roselyn T on Jan 19, 2019 19:58:37 GMT -5
** ALL unbelievers souls belong to Satan and he is theirs god of under world. He is their god and Master. Jesus came down from heaven to set us/believers FREE from Satan slavery/bondage or ETERNAL death. I'm glad you mentioned this Nathan … I believe this is what was meant in the Bible where it says " … the truth will set you free …" (Free from Satan and sin). Hey jetmech has prophet nathan convinced you jesus lives in Venus yet !
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Post by nathan on Jan 19, 2019 20:16:57 GMT -5
** ALL unbelievers souls belong to Satan and he is theirs god of under world. He is their god and Master. Jesus came down from heaven to set us/believers FREE from Satan slavery/bondage or ETERNAL death. I'm glad you mentioned this Nathan … I believe this is what was meant in the Bible where it says " … the truth will set you free …" (Free from Satan and sin). This is what Jesus said in Luke 4:16-21 And he came to Nazareth, where he had been brought up: and, as his custom was, he went into the synagogue on the sabbath day, and stood up for to read. And there was delivered unto him the book of the prophet Esaias. And when he had opened the book, he found the place where it was written, T he Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised, To preach the acceptable year of the Lord. And he closed the book, and he gave it again to the minister, and sat down. And the eyes of all them that were in the synagogue were fastened on him. And he began to say unto them, This day is this scripture fulfilled in your ears. ~~ Jesus came and His death on Calvary's Cross SET FREE NOT ONLY the believers LIVING on the earth but also the DEAD believers souls from the Old Testament STUCK in HADES because of sins! Or Abraham's bosom/Paradise Luke 16. Eph. 4:9 (Now that he/Jesus ascended, what is it but that he also descended first into the lower parts of the earth?).
I Peter 3:18-20 For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit: By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison; Which sometime were disobedient, when once the long suffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.
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Post by snow on Jan 20, 2019 12:19:16 GMT -5
If the earth was hollow why wouldn't it just collapse in on itself? Makes about as much sense. None. Neither is possible. Hollow earths and flat earths are not feasible. ** I told you in the past, there is 800 miles thick crust below the ground all around the earth, there are TWO openings North and South poles, each opening is 400 miles wide. After 800 miles thick crust then it is empty open sky/space with the core/ central sun. Thetefore, it can't collaspe, because the 800 miles thick crust holds things in its place. That isn't enough Nathan. You really need to study your science.
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Jan 20, 2019 12:23:50 GMT -5
** I told you in the past, there is 800 miles thick crust below the ground all around the earth, there are TWO openings North and South poles, each opening is 400 miles wide. After 800 miles thick crust then it is empty open sky/space with the core/ central sun. Thetefore, it can't collaspe, because the 800 miles thick crust holds things in its place. That isn't enough Nathan. You really need to study your science. I think Nathan does not know how to study and how to apply critical thinking or discern right from wrong. That is why he is in such a pickle with his beliefs. Anything he spots on youtube becomes his belief. Here's another one for him. www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_d_GEy8lr0
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Post by nathan on Jan 20, 2019 12:23:52 GMT -5
** I told you in the past, there is 800 miles thick crust below the ground all around the earth, there are TWO openings North and South poles, each opening is 400 miles wide. After 800 miles thick crust then it is empty open sky/space with the core/ central sun. Therefore, it can't collaspe, because the 800 miles thick crust holds things in its place. That isn't enough Nathan. You really need to study your science. Well, People (Admiral Byrd in 1946, Col. Billie Woodard in 1980-92), and a bunch of people working underground Area51 been there daily for years) have entered in the inner earth, seen it with their OWN EYES, the central sun/core, mountains, hills, valleys, trees, oceans, rivers, animals walking in there, and people living there also. Can you image, how human beings on the surface science got it so WRONG for centuries... When the inner earth has existed for millions or billions of years and the humans on the surface don't KNOW about it for 6000 yrs.
Col. Billie Faye Woodard: Traveler to the Inner Earth (Repost) August 29, 2011 By Steve Beckow
My name is Colonel Billie Faye Woodard of the United States Air Force.
Arrival and Indoctrination: I was first stationed at Area 51, Nevada, Jan.28, 1971 through 1982. In that period of service I visited the Hollow Interior of the Earth six times, 800 miles deep. Upon my arrival to Area 51 I was indoctrinated to the existence of tunnels beneath Area 51, and soon after I met several of the Underground Shuttle Operators that have a stature of 13 to 14 feet in height. These tunnels, that transverse the world, are built by a species of beings who have existed here before we, a very long time.
Immediately on my arrival to Area 51, I was made aware of the tunnels and all the workings of the facility itself. They told me that the first 15 levels of the Area 51 facility were man made; that Levels 16-27 were already there. Nobody from our government made them. We were just facilitating them.
goldenageofgaia.com/2011/08/29/col-billie-faye-woodard-traveler-to-the-inner-earth-repost/
Admiral Byrd's diary of his experience inside the INNER earth The exploration flight over the North Pole
I must write this diary in secrecy and obscurity. It concerns my Arctic flight of the nineteenth day of February in the year of Nineteen and Forty Seven. There comes a time when the rationality of men must fade into insignificance and one must accept the inevitability of the Truth! I am not at liberty to disclose the following documentation at this writing... perhaps it shall never see the light of public scrutiny, but I must do my duty and record here for all to read one day. In a world of greed and exploitation of certain of mankind can no longer suppress that which is truth.
FLIGHT LOG - BASE CAMP ARCTIC - 2/19/1947
0600 Hours- All preparations are complete for our flight north ward and we are airborne with full fuel tanks at 0610 Hours.
0620 Hours- fuel mixture on starboard engine seems too rich, adjustment made and Pratt Whittneys are running smoothly.
0730 Hours- Radio Check with base camp. All is well and radio reception is normal.
0740 Hours- Note slight oil leak in starboard engine, oil pres sure indicator seems normal, however.
0800 Hours- Slight turbulence noted from easterly direction at altitude of 2321 feet, correction to 1700 feet, no further turbulence, but tail wind increases, slight adjustment in throttle controls, aircraft performing very well now.
0815 Hours- Radio Check with base camp, situation normal.
0830 Hours- Turbulence encountered again, increase altitude to 2900 feet, smooth flight conditions again.
0910 Hours- Vast Ice and snow below, note coloration of yellowish nature, and disperse in a linear pattern. Altering course foe a better examination of this color pattern below, note reddish or purple color also. Circle this area two full turns and return to assigned compass heading. Position check made again to base camp, and relay information concerning colorations in the Ice and snow below.
0910 Hours- Both Magnetic and Gyro compasses beginning to gyrate and wobble, we are unable to hold our heading by instrumentation. Take bearing with Sun compass, yet all seems well. The controls are seemingly slow to respond and have sluggish quality, but there is no indication of Icing!
0915 Hours- In the distance is what appears to be mountains.
0949 Hours- 29 minutes elapsed flight time from the first sighting of the mountains, it is no illusion. They are mountains and consisting of a small range that I have never seen before!
0955 Hours- Altitude change to 2950 feet, encountering strong turbulence again.
1000 Hours- We are crossing over the small mountain range and still proceeding northward as best as can be ascertained. Beyond the mountain range is what appears to be a valley with a small river or stream running through the center portion. There should be no green valley below! Something is definitely wrong and abnormal here! We should be over Ice and Snow! To the portside are great forests growing on the mountain slopes. Our navigation Instruments are still spinning, the gyroscope is oscillating back and forth!
1005 Hours- I alter altitude to 1400 feet and execute a sharp left turn to better examine the valley below. It is green with either moss or a type of tight knit grass. The Light here seems different. I cannot see the Sun anymore. We make another left turn and we spot what seems to be a large animal of some kind below us. It appears to be an elephant! NO!!! It looks more like a mammoth! This is incredible! Yet, there it is! Decrease altitude to 1000 feet and take binoculars to better examine the animal. It is confirmed - it is definitely a mammoth-like animal! Report this to base camp.
1030 Hours- Encountering more rolling green hills now. The external temperature indicator reads 74 degrees Fahrenheit! Continuing on our heading now. Navigation instruments seem normal now. I am puzzled over their actions. Attempt to contact base camp. Radio is not functioning!
1130 Hours- Countryside below is more level and normal (if I may use that word). Ahead we spot what seems to be a city!!!! This is impossible! Aircraft seems light and oddly buoyant. The controls refuse to respond!! My GOD!!! Off our port and star board wings are a strange type of aircraft. They are closing rapidly alongside! They are disc-shaped and have a radiant quality to them. They are close enough now to see the markings on them. It is a type of Swastika!!! This is fantastic. Where are we! What has happened. I tug at the controls again. They will not respond!!!! We are caught in an invisible vice grip of some type!
1135 Hours- Our radio crackles and a voice comes through in English with what perhaps is a slight Nordic or Germanic accent! The message is: 'Welcome, Admiral, to our domain. We shall land you in exactly seven minutes! Relax, Admiral, you are in good hands.'
I note the engines of our plane have stopped running! The aircraft is under some strange control and is now turning itself. The controls are useless.
1140 Hours- Another radio message received. We begin the landing process now, and in moments the plane shudders slightly, and begins a descent as though caught in some great unseen elevator! The downward motion is negligible, and we touch down with only a slight jolt!
1145 Hours- I am making a hasty last entry in the flight log. Several men are approaching on foot toward our aircraft. They are tall with blond hair. In the distance is a large shimmering city pulsating with rainbow hues of color. I do not know what is going to happen now, but I see no signs of weapons on those approaching. I hear now a voice ordering me by name to open the cargo door. I comply.
END LOG
March 11, 1947
I have just attended a staff meeting at the Pentagon. I have stated fully my discovery and the message from the Master. All is duly recorded. The President has been advised. I am now detained for several hours (six hours, thirty- nine minutes, to be exact.) I am interviewed intently by Top Security Forces and a medical team. It was an ordeal!
I am placed under strict control via the national security provisions of this United States of America. I am ORDERED TO REMAIN SILENT IN REGARD TO ALL THAT I HAVE LEARNED, ON THE BEHALF OF HUMANITY! Incredible! I am reminded that I am a military man and I must obey orders.
30/12/56 - FINAL ENTRY
These last few years elapsed since 1947 have not been kind...
I now make my final entry in this singular diary. In closing, I must state that I have faithfully kept this matter secret as directed all these years. It has been completely against my values of moral right. Now, I seem to sense the long night coming on and this secret will not die with me, but as all truth shall, it will triumph and so it shall.
This can be the only hope for mankind. I have seen the truth and it has quickened my spirit and has set me free! I have done my duty toward the monstrous military industrial complex. Now, the long night begins to approach, but there shall be no end.
Just as the long night of the Arctic ends, the brilliant sunshine of Truth shall come again... and those who are of darkness shall fall in it's Light... FOR I HAVE SEEN THAT LAND BEYOND THE POLE, THAT CENTER OF THE GREAT UNKNOWN.
Admiral Richard E. Byrd United States Navy 24 December 1956
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Post by intelchips on Jan 20, 2019 12:32:14 GMT -5
That isn't enough Nathan. You really need to study your science. Well, People (Admiral Byrd in 1946, Col. Billie Woodard in 1980-92), and a bunch of people working underground Area51 been there daily for years) have entered in the inner earth, seen it with their OWN EYES, the central sun/core, mountains, hills, valleys, trees, oceans, rivers, animals walking in there, and people living there also. Can you image, how human beings on the surface science got it so WRONG for centuries... When the inner earth has existed for millions or billions of years and the humans on the surface don't KNOW about it for 6000 yrs.
Nathan, this thread is labeled People who don't believe in God. What does your response have to do with the topic? Are you saying Byrd didn't believe and that lead him into disillusion of thinking the Earth was hollow. I'm sure there are drugs that could help him.
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Post by nathan on Jan 20, 2019 12:45:09 GMT -5
Well, People (Admiral Byrd in 1946, Col. Billie Woodard in 1980-92), and a bunch of people working underground Area51 been there daily for years) have entered in the inner earth, seen it with their OWN EYES, the central sun/core, mountains, hills, valleys, trees, oceans, rivers, animals walking in there, and people living there also. Can you image, how human beings on the surface science got it so WRONG for centuries... When the inner earth has existed for millions or billions of years and the humans on the surface don't KNOW about it for 6000 yrs.
Nathan, this thread is labeled People who don't believe in God. What does your response have to do with the topic? Are you saying Byrd didn't believe and that lead him into disillusion of thinking the Earth was hollow. I'm sure there are drugs that could help him. I just answered Snow's post... TAKE that complaint to her, OK. Hey! DON'T shoot the messenger, please. If people ask a question I will answer to most of them except some on here I don't care to.
Hey, you are doing the same thing here, telling me off topic my response to Snow question.... and you turn around asking me more questions on the same off topic. Should I answer your question or IGNORE it? I should just ignore it.
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Post by Grant on Jan 20, 2019 13:42:24 GMT -5
Snow was only answering Nathan's post. Wally and Nathan accuse others of starting something when they (others) answer someone elses post and then make excuses for himself. I thought he said that he was able to control himself. Obviously not!
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Post by rational on Jan 20, 2019 17:17:47 GMT -5
A couple of people in history presenting hypothesies is very different to "agreeing" that the earth is hollow. Lies of that magnitude are impossible to keep. There are no massive holes at the poles. The worlds scientists aren't all in collusion to hide a hollow earth from us. Look, from what I've seen of you and your kind on this board you'd argue with ANYTHING just to argue! I could say simply the sky is blue and you'd argue with that. Anyone aware of the way things work would refute the point that the sky is blue. eatverb 1st definition - Put (food) into the mouth and chew and swallow it. I would not argue if you changed 'eat' to 'consume sustenance'. Given the physics of the situation I would say it is less of an opinion and more of e proven fact that the concept of hollow planets are not possible. Explaining a belief is very different than claiming a fact without anything other than YouTube videos as verification and no explanation as to how the problems of the known physics of the situation could be worked out. It would be like you claiming that jet engines without thrust would work well on a plane. Would you just say that there may be a thrust-less engine that could propel an aircraft?
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Post by rational on Jan 20, 2019 17:23:31 GMT -5
Look, from what I've seen of you and your kind on this board you'd argue with ANYTHING just to argue! I could say simply the sky is blue and you'd argue with that. I could say you need to eat to stay alive ... you'd argue with that. I'm just saying that a hollow earth is just as possible and worth looking into as your notion that the earth is not hollow. You haven't once heard me or Nathan say you are stupid or crazy because you say there is no hollow earth, and we have not tried to demean you in any way as a result of your notions. I'm merely saying there just may be a hollow earth. About that blue sky. It is all to do with the wave lengths of the different colours. I wonder where the blue goes at night. Maybe that is the 'real' explanation of the phrase 'Once in a blue moon'.
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Jan 20, 2019 18:08:37 GMT -5
About that blue sky. It is all to do with the wave lengths of the different colours. I wonder where the blue goes at night. Maybe that is the 'real' explanation of the phrase 'Once in a blue moon'. There's a full time crew out there moving the blue around. They were not needed when the sun revolved around the earth but since Galileo's time there has been no let up for the poor guys.
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Post by jetmech on Jan 20, 2019 20:28:20 GMT -5
That isn't enough Nathan. You really need to study your science. I think Nathan does not know how to study and how to apply critical thinking or discern right from wrong. That is why he is in such a pickle with his beliefs. Anything he spots on youtube becomes his belief. Here's another one for him. www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_d_GEy8lr0Do you REALLY think Nathan doesn't know how to study? You're kidding ... right? Nathan grew up in Viet Nam and I presume he didn't speak english? Yet, Nathan has a darn good command of the english language! Don't you think it took some serious study for Nathan to have such a good command of the english language, or do you think he just learned by proxy? Ha!
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Post by nathan on Jan 20, 2019 20:43:14 GMT -5
I think Nathan does not know how to study and how to apply critical thinking or discern right from wrong. That is why he is in such a pickle with his beliefs. Anything he spots on youtube becomes his belief. Here's another one for him. www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_d_GEy8lr0Do you REALLY think Nathan doesn't know how to study? You're kidding ... right? Nathan grew up in Viet Nam and I presume he didn't speak english? Yet, Nathan has a darn good command of the english language! Don't you think it took some serious study for Nathan to have such a good command of the english language, or do you think he just learned by proxy? Ha! haha.. I speak 3 languages, Vietnamese, English and speaking in Tongues or heavenly language, that I learned when I was a Pentecostal. Well, HARDLY any human beings can understand or translate the meaning of it.
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Post by intelchips on Jan 20, 2019 20:49:57 GMT -5
I think Nathan does not know how to study and how to apply critical thinking or discern right from wrong. That is why he is in such a pickle with his beliefs. Anything he spots on youtube becomes his belief. Here's another one for him. www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_d_GEy8lr0Do you REALLY think Nathan doesn't know how to study? You're kidding ... right? Nathan grew up in Viet Nam and I presume he didn't speak english? Yet, Nathan has a darn good command of the english language! Don't you think it took some serious study for Nathan to have such a good command of the english language, or do you think he just learned by proxy? Ha! Please understand I mean no disrespect to Nathan. And I agree he has came along way to learn our language. But I have noticed in his response to my posts he doesn't really understand many of the questions I pose. He doesn't see the texture or depth of them. Because he often, in fact very often responds very off key to what I was offering for discussion. He thinks all question can be answered with a Bible verse or two. And try as I might I have never been able to help him see where I'm coming at different subjects from. Perhaps it is my lack of grammar that fails me, who knows?
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Post by nathan on Jan 20, 2019 20:52:15 GMT -5
Do you REALLY think Nathan doesn't know how to study? You're kidding ... right? Nathan grew up in Viet Nam and I presume he didn't speak english? Yet, Nathan has a darn good command of the english language! Don't you think it took some serious study for Nathan to have such a good command of the english language, or do you think he just learned by proxy? Ha! Please understand I mean no disrespect to Nathan. And I agree he has came along way to learn our language. But I have noticed in his response to my posts he doesn't really understand many of the questions I pose. He doesn't see the texture or depth of them. Because he often, in fact very often responds very off key to what I was offering for discussion. He thinks all question can be answered with a Bible verse or two. And try as I might I have never been able to help him see where I'm coming at different subjects from. Perhaps it is my lack of grammar that fails me, who knows? You need to post in such a way that people can understand what you are asking so they can participate. Snow, is a good example the way she posts.... No personal attacks, she attacks the issues NOT the person, asking good questions that others KNOW what she is asking or talking about. I enjoy my exchanging information with her.
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Post by Roselyn T on Jan 20, 2019 21:04:17 GMT -5
Do you REALLY think Nathan doesn't know how to study? You're kidding ... right? Nathan grew up in Viet Nam and I presume he didn't speak english? Yet, Nathan has a darn good command of the english language! Don't you think it took some serious study for Nathan to have such a good command of the english language, or do you think he just learned by proxy? Ha! Please understand I mean no disrespect to Nathan. And I agree he has came along way to learn our language. But I have noticed in his response to my posts he doesn't really understand many of the questions I pose. He doesn't see the texture or depth of them. Because he often, in fact very often responds very off key to what I was offering for discussion. He thinks all question can be answered with a Bible verse or two. And try as I might I have never been able to help him see where I'm coming at different subjects from. Perhaps it is my lack of grammar that fails me, who knows? IMO it is more nathans lack of reading skills or purposely avoiding a question that is too hard or will divert to something else rather than answer. So no not your lack of grammar skills intelchips !
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Post by Roselyn T on Jan 20, 2019 21:07:44 GMT -5
I think Nathan does not know how to study and how to apply critical thinking or discern right from wrong. That is why he is in such a pickle with his beliefs. Anything he spots on youtube becomes his belief. Here's another one for him. www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_d_GEy8lr0Do you REALLY think Nathan doesn't know how to study? You're kidding ... right? Nathan grew up in Viet Nam and I presume he didn't speak english? Yet, Nathan has a darn good command of the english language! Don't you think it took some serious study for Nathan to have such a good command of the english language, or do you think he just learned by proxy? Ha! Copy and pasting something from youtube isn't studying or using critical thinking jetmech ....
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Post by intelchips on Jan 20, 2019 21:17:21 GMT -5
Please understand I mean no disrespect to Nathan. And I agree he has came along way to learn our language. But I have noticed in his response to my posts he doesn't really understand many of the questions I pose. He doesn't see the texture or depth of them. Because he often, in fact very often responds very off key to what I was offering for discussion. He thinks all question can be answered with a Bible verse or two. And try as I might I have never been able to help him see where I'm coming at different subjects from. Perhaps it is my lack of grammar that fails me, who knows? IMO it is more nathans lack of reading skills or purposely avoiding a question that is too hard or will divert to something else rather than answer. So no not your lack of grammar skills intelchips ! I think Snow understands where I'm coming from. And you may be correct. It most likely is a matter of reading. For example I wonder what Nathan would make of the following: The two oldest manuscripts of Mark 16 (from the 300s CE) conclude with verse 8, which ends with the women fleeing from the empty tomb, and saying "nothing to anyone, because they were too frightened. Who then added the longer ending which includes (16:9-20) And as this stands as a fact that people of all times have edited both the New testament and the Old to suit their special interest why should we today pay any attention to the book of myths? I'm sure he will claim some Godly scribe got a message from God to add the longer ending.
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Jan 20, 2019 21:26:41 GMT -5
I think Nathan does not know how to study and how to apply critical thinking or discern right from wrong. That is why he is in such a pickle with his beliefs. Anything he spots on youtube becomes his belief. Here's another one for him. www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_d_GEy8lr0Do you REALLY think Nathan doesn't know how to study? You're kidding ... right? Nathan grew up in Viet Nam and I presume he didn't speak english? Yet, Nathan has a darn good command of the english language! Don't you think it took some serious study for Nathan to have such a good command of the english language, or do you think he just learned by proxy? Ha! Yes I do think Nathan has issues. Take a look at the cr.p he believes in and tell me whether any sane person would look at those videos and accept them at face value without studying whether they are a con or not. There are ample resources to fact check and verify statements and videos. Why does he not do that? Instead we see one vacuous video after another which apparently verify one another, except they do not. He is also not fluent in the English language but gets by.
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Post by dmmichgood on Jan 20, 2019 21:27:48 GMT -5
I think Nathan does not know how to study and how to apply critical thinking or discern right from wrong. That is why he is in such a pickle with his beliefs. Anything he spots on youtube becomes his belief. Here's another one for him. www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_d_GEy8lr0Do you REALLY think Nathan doesn't know how to study? You're kidding ... right? Nathan grew up in Viet Nam and I presume he didn't speak english? Yet, Nathan has a darn good command of the english language! Don't you think it took some serious study for Nathan to have such a good command of the english language, or do you think he just learned by proxy? Ha! Jetmech, I realize that you want to stand behind your buddy, Nathan; -but it isn't good for you OR Nathan to stand by his views if they aren't true.
True, Nathan's English is good, -but English isn't the problem here. The problem is coming to conclusions that aren't correct because of a lack of critical thinking. Take a look at what the term critical thinking means.
Critical thinking
Critical thinking is the objective analysis of facts to form a judgment.[1] The subject is complex, and several different definitions exist, which generally include the rational, skeptical, unbiased analysis, or evaluation of factual evidence. Critical thinking is self-directed, self-disciplined, self-monitored, and self-corrective thinking. It presupposes assent to rigorous standards of excellence and mindful command of their use. It entails effective communication and problem-solving abilities as well as a commitment to overcome native egocentrism[ and sociocentrism.
is absolutely necessary, if you are really intent on finding the truth of a matter. Otherwise a person is apt fall for any notion or scheme that that has no place in reality.
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Post by jetmech on Jan 20, 2019 22:04:48 GMT -5
Do you REALLY think Nathan doesn't know how to study? You're kidding ... right? Nathan grew up in Viet Nam and I presume he didn't speak english? Yet, Nathan has a darn good command of the english language! Don't you think it took some serious study for Nathan to have such a good command of the english language, or do you think he just learned by proxy? Ha! Please understand I mean no disrespect to Nathan. And I agree he has came along way to learn our language. But I have noticed in his response to my posts he doesn't really understand many of the questions I pose. He doesn't see the texture or depth of them. Because he often, in fact very often responds very off key to what I was offering for discussion. He thinks all question can be answered with a Bible verse or two. And try as I might I have never been able to help him see where I'm coming at different subjects from. Perhaps it is my lack of grammar that fails me, who knows? Maybe he knows you'll ignore the depth and bredth of the knowledge portrayed in his posts so he is more succinct in his posts ...afterall what's the point in elabrorating with someone who refutes your every word???
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Post by jetmech on Jan 20, 2019 22:05:24 GMT -5
Do you REALLY think Nathan doesn't know how to study? You're kidding ... right? Nathan grew up in Viet Nam and I presume he didn't speak english? Yet, Nathan has a darn good command of the english language! Don't you think it took some serious study for Nathan to have such a good command of the english language, or do you think he just learned by proxy? Ha! Please understand I mean no disrespect to Nathan. And I agree he has came along way to learn our language. But I have noticed in his response to my posts he doesn't really understand many of the questions I pose. He doesn't see the texture or depth of them. Because he often, in fact very often responds very off key to what I was offering for discussion. He thinks all question can be answered with a Bible verse or two. And try as I might I have never been able to help him see where I'm coming at different subjects from. Perhaps it is my lack of grammar that fails me, who knows? It's interesting too how many people interact with Nathan while refuting everything he says. If everyone is so much against him why do they ask him questions?
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