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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2015 23:01:11 GMT -5
Howitis, after sitting in meetings for 40 plus years, how many stories do we hear that are repeated over & over again, sometimes changed a bit but basically the same story about how someone met the workers. I have heard all the stories from my own family of how the older generations were on their way to the local church/hall to help with the War effort, they came to a cross road & decided to go to the Hall where the workers had missions instead. So yes I suppose over time we become cynical because most of the stories are always about how people found the "workers", which of course confirms in peoples mind that the workers must be the "true servants". As to my mothers DV, well if others don't believe that well I cannot change that, but I know what my experience was and what I witnessed. As to Bible stories, well I personally believe that is exactly what they were stories, I do not believe the Bible is inerrant. As to telling my story, I have only told a part of my story on here. Howitis if you believe that my PM to you was not sincere well that is up to you. your just a short step from becoming an agnostic or atheist aren't you? most of her likes are with such posters
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Post by Roselyn T on Jul 31, 2015 23:01:35 GMT -5
Howitis, after sitting in meetings for 40 plus years, how many stories do we hear that are repeated over & over again, sometimes changed a bit but basically the same story about how someone met the workers. I have heard all the stories from my own family of how the older generations were on their way to the local church/hall to help with the War effort, they came to a cross road & decided to go to the Hall where the workers had missions instead. So yes I suppose over time we become cynical because most of the stories are always about how people found the "workers", which of course confirms in peoples mind that the workers must be the "true servants". As to my mothers DV, well if others don't believe that well I cannot change that, but I know what my experience was and what I witnessed. As to Bible stories, well I personally believe that is exactly what they were stories, I do not believe the Bible is inerrant. As to telling my story, I have only told a part of my story on here. Howitis if you believe that my PM to you was not sincere well that is up to you. your just a short step from becoming an agnostic or atheist aren't you? Because I don't believe the Bible is inerrant, Wally ?
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Post by Roselyn T on Jul 31, 2015 23:02:07 GMT -5
your just a short step from becoming an agnostic or atheist aren't you? most of her likes are with such posters Wow Virgo are you a mind reader now !!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2015 23:08:06 GMT -5
your just a short step from becoming an agnostic or atheist aren't you? Because I don't believe the Bible is inerrant, Wally ? I noticed you didn't answer the question...
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Post by Roselyn T on Jul 31, 2015 23:10:09 GMT -5
Howitis, after sitting in meetings for 40 plus years, how many stories do we hear that are repeated over & over again, sometimes changed a bit but basically the same story about how someone met the workers. I have heard all the stories from my own family of how the older generations were on their way to the local church/hall to help with the War effort, they came to a cross road & decided to go to the Hall where the workers had missions instead. So yes I suppose over time we become cynical because most of the stories are always about how people found the "workers", which of course confirms in peoples mind that the workers must be the "true servants". As to my mothers DV, well if others don't believe that well I cannot change that, but I know what my experience was and what I witnessed. As to Bible stories, well I personally believe that is exactly what they were stories, I do not believe the Bible is inerrant. As to telling my story, I have only told a part of my story on here. Howitis if you believe that my PM to you was not sincere well that is up to you. your just a short step from becoming an agnostic or atheist aren't you? I honesty cannot answer that Wally ! Because I really don't know !
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2015 23:14:55 GMT -5
your just a short step from becoming an agnostic or atheist aren't you? Because I don't believe the Bible is inerrant, Wally ? and you think that they were just stories which I take it that you mean not necessarily true...
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Post by Roselyn T on Jul 31, 2015 23:17:16 GMT -5
Because I don't believe the Bible is inerrant, Wally ? and you think that they were just stories which I take it that you mean not necessarily true... Wally, how many times has the Bible been translated ?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2015 23:23:54 GMT -5
most of her likes are with such posters Wow Virgo are you a mind reader now !! i know you know that all can see to whom you put your likes to nothing to do with anyone's mind
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2015 23:25:20 GMT -5
and you think that they were just stories which I take it that you mean not necessarily true... Wally, how many times has the Bible been translated ? and God gives the answer to the scriptures
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2015 23:28:04 GMT -5
and you think that they were just stories which I take it that you mean not necessarily true... Wally, how many times has the Bible been translated ? since the king james version? i'm guessing a couple dozen times for English and probably 100+ for other languages
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Post by snow on Jul 31, 2015 23:29:32 GMT -5
Nothing wrong with being agnostic. It's probably the most honest response to whether there is a God or not. No one knows for sure, no one can prove there is. It's based completely on belief and faith.
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Post by Roselyn T on Jul 31, 2015 23:31:38 GMT -5
Wally, how many times has the Bible been translated ? since the king james version? i'm guessing a couple dozen times for English and probably 100+ for other languages Before the King James ?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2015 23:31:56 GMT -5
Nothing wrong with being agnostic. It's probably the most honest response to whether there is a God or not. No one knows for sure, no one can prove there is. It's based completely on belief and faith. who said there was anything wrong with being agnostic?
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Post by Roselyn T on Jul 31, 2015 23:32:39 GMT -5
Wow Virgo are you a mind reader now !! i know you know that all can see to whom you put your likes to nothing to do with anyone's mind That is true Virgo ! But just because I like certain posts that doesn't define exactly what I believe !
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Post by Roselyn T on Jul 31, 2015 23:34:37 GMT -5
Wally, how many times has the Bible been translated ? and God gives the answer to the scriptures The scriptures according to who though ?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2015 23:38:05 GMT -5
i know you know that all can see to whom you put your likes to nothing to do with anyone's mind That is true Virgo ! But just because I like certain posts that doesn't define exactly what I believe ! and who said it did?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2015 23:38:32 GMT -5
and God gives the answer to the scriptures The scriptures according to who though ? GOD
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Post by Roselyn T on Jul 31, 2015 23:39:38 GMT -5
The scriptures according to who though ? GODGod didn't write the Bible, Virgo.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2015 23:44:44 GMT -5
God didn't write the Bible, Virgo. who said He did? who do you think inspired the Bible? you will notice i used the word scripture
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2015 23:48:04 GMT -5
since the king james version? i'm guessing a couple dozen times for English and probably 100+ for other languages Before the King James ? well there was the latin vulgate version the Geneva version and wyclif and Tyndale and the Mazarin i'd say less than 12....
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Post by Roselyn T on Jul 31, 2015 23:50:30 GMT -5
Men put the Bible together, were they inspired ... well who really knows. What about the Books that are no longer in the KJV ? Who decided that they were NOT inspired by God? Maybe we should start a new thread on this, so we don't hi-jack this one
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Post by maryhig on Jul 31, 2015 23:55:07 GMT -5
Nothing wrong with being agnostic. It's probably the most honest response to whether there is a God or not. No one knows for sure, no one can prove there is. It's based completely on belief and faith. Well really you can't say that, because how do you know that God hasn't revealed that he is there personally to those who believe? He may of some way or another, because he has to me. I have no doubt whatsoever that he exists.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2015 0:08:57 GMT -5
Men put the Bible together, were they inspired ... well who really knows. What about the Books that are no longer in the KJV ? Who decided that they were NOT inspired by God? Maybe we should start a new thread on this, so we don't hi-jack this one have you read the OT apocrypha? I have and except for a few chapters they hold no spiritual value only historical...I imagine the people who own the KJV got together and decided to no longer print those books with the KJV...
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Post by maryhig on Aug 1, 2015 0:19:20 GMT -5
Men put the Bible together, were they inspired ... well who really knows. What about the Books that are no longer in the KJV ? Who decided that they were NOT inspired by God? Maybe we should start a new thread on this, so we don't hi-jack this one How do we know that people of God inspired the bible? Because we are his people also, and the spirit reveals it to your heart. And you receive understanding. And you are able to see that God had to be in Jesus' heart, because no man could have wisdom like that. Or the strength to endure the things he did and show love and mercy like he did, unless God was was with him. And reading the bible humbles you and teaches you, and the spirit changes your heart and you know. That only the true God could inspire those teachings in man. Because a man's human mind doesn't think the way Jesus did. And I know by experience, because my whole life has changed, my whole way of thinking. I know that Gods holy spirit has transformed me. Showing me the wrong in my heart and Christ gives me the strength to fight it. I know God is there, because I've felt him within my heart. As I said, I've got no doubt whatsoever. And if you have that spirit, you know that the bible is true. And I know that everything that is in there, is what God wants to be in there. And he is showing us that he just wants us to turn back to him and away from sin. and that he wants us to have faith and love him with all our hearts, and there is enough in the bible to teach us how to live our lives right and how to follow Jesus! And the spirit strengthens that belief!
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Post by maryhig on Aug 1, 2015 0:30:08 GMT -5
Men put the Bible together, were they inspired ... well who really knows. What about the Books that are no longer in the KJV ? Who decided that they were NOT inspired by God? Maybe we should start a new thread on this, so we don't hi-jack this one have you read the OT apocrypha? I have and except for a few chapters they hold no spiritual value only historical...I imagine the people who own the KJV got together and decided to no longer print those books with the KJV...
Hi Wally, I haven't read the apocrypha yet, is the book of Enoch in that, and if it is, what do you think of it, or is there anything good in those books at all that you would recommend reading?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2015 11:09:18 GMT -5
have you read the OT apocrypha? I have and except for a few chapters they hold no spiritual value only historical...I imagine the people who own the KJV got together and decided to no longer print those books with the KJV...
Hi Wally, I haven't read the apocrypha yet, is the book of Enoch in that, and if it is, what do you think of it, or is there anything good in those books at all that you would recommend reading? here are the ones I read:
1 Esdras 2 Esdras Tobit Judith Additions to Esther Wisdom of Solomon Ecclesiasticus Baruch Letter of Jeremiah Prayer of Azariah Susanna Bel and the Dragon Prayer of Manasseh 1 Maccabees 2 Maccabees
there were a few chapters on good jewish behavior but other than that I didn't see much that was helpful spiritually... you can read it without harm though its just a lot of bloody history
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Post by snow on Aug 1, 2015 11:32:34 GMT -5
Nothing wrong with being agnostic. It's probably the most honest response to whether there is a God or not. No one knows for sure, no one can prove there is. It's based completely on belief and faith. who said there was anything wrong with being agnostic? Usually when a theist throws that at someone it's usually to pass judgement on them. If that wasn't the intent then good on ya
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Post by snow on Aug 1, 2015 11:35:04 GMT -5
Nothing wrong with being agnostic. It's probably the most honest response to whether there is a God or not. No one knows for sure, no one can prove there is. It's based completely on belief and faith. Well really you can't say that, because how do you know that God hasn't revealed that he is there personally to those who believe? He may of some way or another, because he has to me. I have no doubt whatsoever that he exists. That may be the case but you can't prove it to anyone else. So it's likely the most honest response. That's how I see it. I once thought there was a God, was absolutely sure that he had revealed himself to me. Now I know I was mistaken.
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