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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2015 15:00:58 GMT -5
Nathan, yesterday you posted that Valiant Thor has a brain 200 centimetres larger than a human brain. On Sept 20, 2014 you posted that his brain is 300 centimetres bigger than human, so it appears to be shrinking rapidly. However, adding even 200 centimetres (almost 79 inches) to a human brain would make the body a pretty unusual shape. Think about it. Where did Valiant Thor keep this giant brain?
And where do you keep yours?
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2015 15:32:43 GMT -5
It is difficult to believe that there are more far-fetched stories out there with zero support that people pay to access. Come on NathanB, you are smarter than this. To many people it's science fiction because their minds can't comprehend things they don't understand or believe.John wrote in John chapter 1 about Jesus, the Word is God. ALL things were made by Him, the world was made by Him and the world knew him NOT. The Word made flesh and dwell among us. He came to His own people and they didn't believe him.... MANY say and believe today Jesus did NOT exist either. MANY believe Jesus is God a far fetch story too! Because their minds can't comprehend, understand who Jesus is.Nathan, it IS science fiction. I have no difficulty in believing anything that is written in the scriptures, even things that are difficult for our minds to comprehend - I still believe. Valiant Thor is a hoax, a scam, a work of fiction for the purpose of obtaining money. Does it not worry you that you are the only person here who believes this story?
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2015 16:08:51 GMT -5
Nathan, yesterday you posted that Valiant Thor has a brain 200 centimetres larger than a human brain. On Sept 20, 2014 you posted that his brain is 300 centimetres bigger than human, so it appears to be shrinking rapidly. However, adding even 200 centimetres (almost 79 inches) to a human brain would make the body a pretty unusual shape. Think about it. Where did Valiant Thor keep this giant brain? And where do you keep yours? hahahahaha...Rational and I discussed about this a few months ago.... Let me go and find it out the answered I told him so hang on. I will answer your question about 300 cc brain of Valiant Thor after I get back from work.Forget it - I found the old post. It seems that you don't actually believe Stranges publications yourself, and you've changed what he actually wrote (200 centimetres) to 200 cubic centimetres. Is there any other part of Stranges publication that you've changed because even you find it too far-fetched? How are you getting on with the extra-large heart and lungs, and the blue blood theories? If the blood vessels of the alleged creature were bigger than human, he'd be a fairly blue-looking individual wouldn't he? Did you know Santa Claus doesn't actually exist either?
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Post by rational on May 27, 2015 16:56:16 GMT -5
Nathan, yesterday you posted that Valiant Thor has a brain 200 centimetres larger than a human brain. On Sept 20, 2014 you posted that his brain is 300 centimetres bigger than human, so it appears to be shrinking rapidly. However, adding even 200 centimetres (almost 79 inches) to a human brain would make the body a pretty unusual shape. Think about it. Where did Valiant Thor keep this giant brain? And where do you keep yours? In general the size of brains are measures in units of volume (cubic centimeters) and not units of length (centimeters). The fact that this error is never corrected points to the scientific foundation these tales have. Published description of Valiant Thor state he had 6 digits per hand but published photos clearly show 5 fingers. But you can't let facts get in way of what you want to believe.
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Post by snow on May 27, 2015 18:27:03 GMT -5
Nathan, yesterday you posted that Valiant Thor has a brain 200 centimetres larger than a human brain. On Sept 20, 2014 you posted that his brain is 300 centimetres bigger than human, so it appears to be shrinking rapidly. However, adding even 200 centimetres (almost 79 inches) to a human brain would make the body a pretty unusual shape. Think about it. Where did Valiant Thor keep this giant brain? And where do you keep yours? Yes, yet in all his pictures he seems to have human head dimensions. Oh and 5 fingers not 6.
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Post by withlove on May 27, 2015 18:52:22 GMT -5
The good guys came to teach earth people how to do things, and eventually hope to have a one world government? This sounds a lot like the other side...bad guys came to teach humans secrets like weaponry and technology etc. and are working towards a new world order...sounds like they should join forces.
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Post by rational on May 27, 2015 19:41:48 GMT -5
The good guys came to teach earth people how to do things, and eventually hope to have a one world government? This sounds a lot like the other side...bad guys came to teach humans secrets like weaponry and technology etc. and are working towards a new world order...sounds like they should join forces. You have to imagine the imaginary!
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on May 28, 2015 1:44:08 GMT -5
hahahahaha...Rational and I discussed about this a few months ago.... Let me go and find it out the answered I told him so hang on. I will answer your question about 300 cc brain of Valiant Thor after I get back from work. Forget it - I found the old post. It seems that you don't actually believe Stranges publications yourself, and you've changed what he actually wrote (200 centimetres) to 200 cubic centimetres. Is there any other part of Stranges publication that you've changed because even you find it too far-fetched? How are you getting on with the extra-large heart and lungs, and the blue blood theories? If the blood vessels of the alleged creature were bigger than human, he'd be a fairly blue-looking individual wouldn't he? Did you know Santa Claus doesn't actually exist either? hmmmm, no Santa, you sure about that?
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2015 5:31:23 GMT -5
Valiant Thor's writing on Angels of God.- From the book- Outwitting Tomorrow by Dr. Frank E. Stranges with Commander Valiant Thor as Advisor - page 105 and 120. Nathan, that last post of yours was written by Stranges - it is FICTION. It doesn't make any sense. How can you believe the Bible and yet believe stuff that's completely contrary to what's written in the Bible? When two theories are completely opposed to each other, how can you believe both of them? "in the higher world all is vibration" - vibration?? that's ridiculous. Is all that vibration rattling your brains? "when you sleep your spirit passes out of your physical body" - What would happen if your wife woke you up during the night while your spirit is out vibrating somewhere for the evening and there's "nobody home"? Seriously Nathan, the spirit/soul doesn't leave the body until we die "Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it." - Ecclesiastes 12. Why would you need the spirit to pass out of your body while you're asleep so "the subconscious mind can repair the body without interference from the conscious mind"? If you're asleep, the conscious mind is asleep, so it's hardly going to be interfering anyway. "The White Forces work with you at night" - what about what Jesus said "I must work the works of him that sent me, while it is day: the night cometh, when no man can work." God wants to work with us when we're awake, not when we're asleep. "Remember to protect yourself with the Blue Ring of Fire" - Nathan, where is your blue ring of fire?? What is it? "Be on your guard so the evil forces don't 'get to you'" - sounds like that warning came too late
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Post by rational on May 28, 2015 8:31:55 GMT -5
Valiant Thor's writing on Angels of God.- From the book- Outwitting Tomorrow by Dr. Frank E. Stranges with Commander Valiant Thor as Advisor - page 105 and 120. Nathan, that last post of yours was written by Stranges - it is FICTION. It doesn't make any sense. How can you believe the Bible and yet believe stuff that's completely contrary to what's written in the Bible? When two theories are completely opposed to each other, how can you believe both of them? Magical thinking? Look into string theory a little bit. There could be vibration there!. Don't you believe in astral projection and OBEs??? There is some interesting new findings regarding the brain 'shrinking' just a little and the fluids being able to move faster and actually does 'wash' away some accumulated chemicals during sleep. (really - www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2013/10/18/236211811/brains-sweep-themselves-clean-of-toxins-during-sleep) If only Jesus had known about electric lights and a 7/24 work day where many people work through the night. Think of the 'washing' as the 'white knight cleaning company". It is that blue propane flame that you create and stand in the middle of to protect yourself. You can make it out of old grill parts. Quick, Light the fire! It was good of you to engage. At least it shines the questioning light of reality on the subject(s).
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Post by slowtosee on May 28, 2015 8:49:22 GMT -5
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Post by snow on May 28, 2015 10:39:05 GMT -5
Nate said: The middle ring of fire prayer came from Frank Potter, a disciple of Frank Stranges.
Is this Frank Potter any relation to Harry?
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2015 11:10:58 GMT -5
Nathan, that last post of yours was written by Stranges - it is FICTION. It doesn't make any sense. ~~ It doesn't make sense to you and me because we're from the humans kingdom and Valiant Thor is an angelical kingdom."Remember to protect yourself with the Blue Ring of Fire" - Nathan, where is your blue ring of fire?? What is it? ~~ It's The Venusian Ring of Fire Prayer! (For your protection from evil forces). This prayer was given to Dr. Frank to ward off evil force. This prayer is said daily by Valiant Thor and his crew on board Victor one.www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Frank+Stranges+video+on+Ring+of+fireI'm sorry I asked Nathan, do those prayers not send up loud warning bells for you? What gave you the impression that repeating words made up by someone else is the way to reach the heart of God? Have you forgotten about this verse: "But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking." That makes your Valiant Thor a heathen doesn't it? For a guy who is supposed to have an intellect that far outweighs the human one, he's not very imaginative at putting together his prayers is he?
Read those prayers. Would you pray those words in your meeting? And what do those words have to do with a blue ring of fire?? "Provide me now with perfect health, longevity and abundance" - would you pray for those things in a meeting? How would repeating those words daily ward off the evil forces? "I command the hand of Almighty God on my behalf" - how can anyone command the hand of God? Even Jesus didn't command God. We ask, pray, plead or whatever, but we do not have the authority to command the hand of God. Against my better judgement, I wasted almost 5 minutes of my life looking at your youtube clip - the only time I've ever done this. Seriously, that looks like a weird cult ceremony. How could you possibly see anything spiritual in that? Holding hands and repeating meaningless phrases while staring into the flame of a candle?? What has a wax candle got to do with anything anyway?
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2015 11:11:56 GMT -5
Nate said: The middle ring of fire prayer came from Frank Potter, a disciple of Frank Stranges. Is this Frank Potter any relation to Harry? I'd find Harry's story WAY more credible
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Post by Commander Valiant Thor on May 28, 2015 11:21:49 GMT -5
I'm sorry I asked :D Nathan, do those prayers not send up loud warning bells for you? What gave you the impression that repeating words made up by someone else is the way to reach the heart of God? Have you forgotten about this verse: "But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking." That makes your Valiant Thor a heathen doesn't it? For a guy who is supposed to have an intellect that far outweighs the human one, he's not very imaginative at putting together his prayers is he?
Read those prayers. Would you pray those words in your meeting? And what do those words have to do with a blue ring of fire?? "Provide me now with perfect health, longevity and abundance" - would you pray for those things in a meeting? How would repeating those words daily ward off the evil forces? "I command the hand of Almighty God on my behalf" - how can anyone command the hand of God? Even Jesus didn't command God. We ask, pray, plead or whatever, but we do not have the authority to command the hand of God. Against my better judgement, I wasted almost 5 minutes of my life looking at your youtube clip - the only time I've ever done this. Seriously, that looks like a weird cult ceremony. How could you possibly see anything spiritual in that? Holding hands and repeating meaningless phrases while staring into the flame of a candle?? What has a wax candle got to do with anything anyway? It doesn't make sense to me either, @felicity. Stranges was one of those people who could take a story without a single element of truth to back it up and earn a living selling books and tapes to the gullible public. I think he knew that there was another born every minute. Many people posting here and observing from a distance cannot understand how NathanB can believe these wild tales. All from the fertile imagination of one man. I think people are starting to realize what made his mind so fertile. Commander Valiant Thor
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Post by rational on May 28, 2015 11:25:13 GMT -5
Holding hands and repeating meaningless phrases while staring into the flame of a candle?? What has a wax candle got to do with anything anyway? I think wax was chosen because magnesium burns much to brightly and has a very high potential to cause fires.
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Post by snow on May 28, 2015 11:30:37 GMT -5
Nate said: The middle ring of fire prayer came from Frank Potter, a disciple of Frank Stranges. Is this Frank Potter any relation to Harry? I'd find Harry's story WAY more credible And it's a far more interesting story!
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Post by snow on May 28, 2015 11:33:35 GMT -5
Nate said: The middle ring of fire prayer came from Frank Potter, a disciple of Frank Stranges. Is this Frank Potter any relation to Harry? Opps, my bad, Sorry.... It was Rob Potter NOT Frank. Rob and Harry Potter are NOT related.Robert Potter a member of Dr. Frank Stranges Inner Circle groupI thought I would share with you all several stories Dr. Frank relayed to me personally during our personal meetings, as I was constantly enthralled with him as a teacher and a friend. Most of these stories were shared with me during the meals we had together from time to time. Doctor Frank has the first attempt on his life by the Dark forces:The first near death story goes back to the 60′s I believe but the date is not important but the crux of the story is and it more of the same old same old from the minions of ignorance superstition and fear. Billy Meir and many other genuine contactees have had their lives threatened by religious zealots, MIB’s, Govt. agents and lord knows who else. Many light workers with real evidence or Gov't. agents who have wanted to tell the truth to the world and these secret ongoing contacts with different ET/ED groups have met their deaths at the hands of those whose lust for power considers murder an option to maintain secrecy and to keep the upper hand on an unsuspecting world. Unfortunately Dr Frank also has had several attempts on his life. It should be made clear that not all ET visitors or space family are kind and loving to the earth and her peoples. There are several groups that are hostile and seek power and control over earth and her peoples and resources. This is not the time to go into the details of these negative beings or their agendas but I can at some future date share some of what I consider to be clear descriptions of these forces.
Suffice to say that our some of our representatives and wealthy Royal Families and others who consider themselves “the elite” power brokers of this world have entered into formal relations with hostile groups whose selfish intentions and disregard for life has allowed them to violently and through subterfuge seek to enslave this planet in direct contravention to the Laws of the loving creator of this universe. Some of them are actually incarnated hostile beings who reincarnate into the same families and have massed tremendous wealth, power and influence in our society and structure.
The Ashtar command and various other star nations and enlightened beings in association with realms of pure spirit seek to limit these aggressive attacks on the various worlds who are under the influence of these groups due to the sophistication of the attacks and programming on the innocent populations. These hostile forces come in and do try to usurp various worlds for their own benefit in a hostile take over situations. This is the case on the earth at this time. Though these forces are still active “The Rebellion” in the higher dimensions is won and like a body without a head, which stumbles and wreaks havoc before it falls so must the material worlds of time and space wait for the beast to fall. In the mean time we of earth must suffer these transgressions by these errant beings as they manipulate our world and its various societal systems, leaders and peoples until some unknown future date. Keep this awareness in mind as you read these dastardly attempts by darkness to stifle the light. Sometime in the 60′s Dr Frank was sent to Hamburg Germany as some sincere seekers of truth who wished to hear his most amazing teachings of spiritual uplift and the mission of Valiant Thor sponsored him. This beloved Master from Venus who so generously gives his time along with his fellow crew members to the healing and protecting of the peoples of the earth. He/Dr Frank, was to give a lecture I believe and the sponsor had some business to attend to but he had promised to meet Dr Frank in the afternoon and sent him to a restaurant. Dr Frank sat down at a table and a man came up to him gushing about his interest in Valiant Thor. Dr Frank being as kind as trusting as he was invited the strange person to sit with him. The man wanted to know ‘Exactly where is the commander now”. “Where is Valiant Thor’s ship located” and many other such questions which were not really about the message of spirit and truth but were more about forcing a meeting with Val. Anyone who knew Dr Frank when he was asked such questions got the often-repeated reply “I don’t know? He contacts me when he wants”. In later years Dr. Frank revealed the general location of commander Val’s flag ship called Victor 1 as well as the other 12 ships from Venus permanently stationed on the earth to monitor our peoples gov't and various other situations which require divine intervention to keep this planet from being destroyed by nuclear or biological weapons of mass destruction.
The person was so insistent that Dr. Frank was becoming weary of this interlopers repetitive queries. The good Dr. excused himself as he was told there was a phone call for him in the lobby. There was no one on the line when he went to retrieve his call! Upon his return to the table, the stranger was nowhere to be seen. Dr. Frank continued eating his tomato soup and he began to feel severe pain in his throat and stomach. As his sponsor arrived things were not looking good as he was bleeding from the mouth! The sponsor who was a chemist at the University pulled out of his pocket a packet which contained some powder he ordered some soda water and poured in the contents and ordered Dr. Frank to Drink it. Miraculously it seemed Dr. Frank felt better right away. The back story on the sponsor was that while he was in the lab he inexplicably was moved by spirit to prepare a certain formula. He told Dr Frank a voice told him “You will know when to administer this formula” I am sorry but I do not recall what it was or if Dr Frank even told me what it was. However, it is apparent the Commander foresaw this event and was wont to impress the young chemist to prepare a formula. The chemist related to Dr Frank that after preparing this mix he heard the voice to carry this packet with him and he would until he would “know to whom and when to administer the packet”. Dr. Frank continued his stay and later at his next meeting with Val he was told to be more careful about whom he invited to sup with him. Dr. Frank could not possibly prevent this in my opinion but such are gifts administered by the angels of the lord who watch over his messengers. It seems in such circumstances they will not allow a persons life to be taken due to their willingness to come in the open and proclaim their contact with the space family of light and to share the teachings they have been given. I have many other similar stories that Dr Frank has shared but these will one day be hopefully shared in a book that I am currently working on. I hope this story will encourage you to watch some of the You-tube videos made by Dr. Frank Stranges so you can hear Frank in person share his teachings that he learned both onboard Victor 1 as well as in his personal association with the other members and visitors from other worlds. Dr Franks teachings were always very spiritual and full of relevant information which we could all benefit from. He was one of my most cherished friends and teachers before he passed on to greater service in 2008. I am not alone when I say he was loved by many all over the world for his very special warmth and kindness which he exuded for all to share. So many people are still so very devoted to him personally that his legacy is sure to be shared for many years to come. He taught somewhat like a preacher but his message was spiritual and not religious. He teachings were free of dogma and superstition and he cleared up many of the mysteries contained in the Bible. He met many different space people through the years and his stories were so uplifting and the message was so positive that the world will not see another Valiant soul such as his for quite some time. In my book I will share many other teachings of Frank Stranges including his meetings with the Master Jesus Christ himself as well as my meeting with several members of Valiant Thor's crew on 4 separate occasions. May god keep Valiant Thor and the entire contingent from Venus safe and warm in his hands. May they’re mission of love and peace and the promise of they’re return become a reality we can all witness very soon. In the Light of Our Radiant One Rob thepromiserevealed.com/dr-frank-stranges/Well okay, that certainly changes things... Nate I know you believe this, but I find the whole thing even stranger than the author's name! Ah well. On this we will have to disagree. Hugs Nate!
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2015 11:51:02 GMT -5
Nathan, please stop cutting and pasting all that nonsense. In the unlikely event that anyone actually wants to read it, they can google it or go to your forum and read what you've posted there.
The thing that really worries me is that you seem to believe it yourself. Nobody else believes any of it. One of your last posts makes claims about reincarnation, and also claims that Stranges met Jesus in person. You know that these things can't be true.
Editing to quote Rob Potter / Frank Stranges reincarnation claims, and claims of meeting with Jesus from what Nathan posted above:
"Suffice to say that our some of our representatives and wealthy Royal Families and others who consider themselves “the elite” power brokers of this world have entered into formal relations with hostile groups whose selfish intentions and disregard for life has allowed them to violently and through subterfuge seek to enslave this planet in direct contravention to the Laws of the loving creator of this universe. Some of them are actually incarnated hostile beings who reincarnate into the same families and have massed tremendous wealth, power and influence in our society and structure."
"In my book I will share many other teachings of Frank Stranges including his meetings with the Master Jesus Christ himself as well as my meeting with several members of Valiant Thor's crew on 4 separate occasions."
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2015 12:21:09 GMT -5
Nathan, please stop cutting and pasting all that nonsense. In the unlikely event that anyone actually wants to read it, they can google it or go to your forum and read what you've posted there. If you don't like to read them, then skip this so and so post.The thing that really worries me is that you seem to believe it yourself. Nobody else believes any of it. One of your last posts makes claims about reincarnation, and also claims that Stranges met Jesus in person. You know that these things can't be true. ~~ How do you know it wasn't true? were you there yourself? Paul saw Jesus on the way to Damacus and many believers in his days didn't believe his testimony either.Nathan, I've pointed out numerous discrepancies on this thread and you've ignored them. The stories just do not add up. If your argument is valid, then it's just as valid to ask "how do you know it was true? were you there yourself?". Paul's testimony was believed by those who saw he had received the spirit. There's nothing remotely spiritual about the writings of Stranges and his cronies.
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Post by snow on May 28, 2015 12:32:05 GMT -5
This is true. The original apostles didn't believe Paul, didn't believe he was an apostle and thought what he was preaching was not true. They tried to shut him down and followed behind him sometimes trying to repair the damage they felt Paul was doing to Christ's message. There is no reason whatsoever to believe Paul anymore than anyone else really. He said things that do not line up with what Jesus said. One was his very different attitude towards women.
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2015 12:50:54 GMT -5
Nathan, I've pointed out numerous discrepancies on this thread and you've ignored them. The stories just do not add up. If your argument is valid, then it's just as valid to ask "how do you know it was true? were you there yourself?". Paul's testimony was believed by those who saw he had received the spirit. There's nothing remotely spiritual about the writings of Stranges and his cronies. There is a lot of spiritual teachings, about Jesus... you just don't know believe it.Dr. Frank Stranges met Valiant Thor who came from the planet Venus in 1959-2008. We (Pastor Frank and Valiant Thor) discussed the merits of Jesus Christ ... how He gave His Life freely... so that men could enjoy the benefits of eternal life. I questioned him about a Bible on Venus and he assured me that a personal unbroken fellowship with the "Author" did not necessitate the printing of a "book". He found it amusing that many theologians attempt to discredit both Jesus Christ and The Bible.
The very God many have said is "dead" continues to lavish them with all good things. Perhaps they will, in time, permit the spark of Divine Light to again illuminate their troubled hearts. In answer to my question of what he thought of Jesus Christ, he said, "I know that Jesus is the Alpha and Omega of yours and everyone else faith. He today has assumed His rightful position as the ruler of the universe and is preparing a place and a time for all who are called by His Name to ascend far above the clouds to where His Power and Authority shall never again be disputed.
~~ Commander Thor's Purpose In COMING to Earth: He stated that he came in order to help mankind return to the Lord. He spoke in positive terms, always with a smile on his face. He said God was displeased with the fact that mankind is farther away from Him than ever before, but that there is still a good chance for mankind to find salvation if he looks for it in the right place. "
[/font]http://www.galactic-server.net/rune/valthor2.html [/quote] You posted that passage already. As you say, I still don't believe it. Just explain this for me, please. If Valiant Thor was sent by God, why did he go to Frank Stranges, and why did he not make contact with anyone who was serving God in 58 years on earth?
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2015 12:54:09 GMT -5
Nathan, I've pointed out numerous discrepancies on this thread and you've ignored them. The stories just do not add up. If your argument is valid, then it's just as valid to ask "how do you know it was true? were you there yourself?". Paul's testimony was believed by those who saw he had received the spirit. There's nothing remotely spiritual about the writings of Stranges and his cronies. NOT all believers in the New Testament believe Paul's testimony of meeting Jesus in person. Many of the believers didn't even believe Paul was a true apostle and didn't support his ministry.
Paul wrote in I Cor. 9:1-2 Am I am not an apostle? am I not free? have I not seen Jesus Christ our Lord? are not ye my work in the Lord? If I be not an apostle unto others, yet doubtless I am to you: for the seal of mine apostleship are ye in the Lord.
After the events in Acts 9, which understandably would have confused people, where does it say that the believers didn't believe Paul was a true apostle? This verse from Corinthians doesn't suggest that the believers didn't see him as an apostle.
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2015 12:57:09 GMT -5
This is true. The original apostles didn't believe Paul, didn't believe he was an apostle and thought what he was preaching was not true. They tried to shut him down and followed behind him sometimes trying to repair the damage they felt Paul was doing to Christ's message. There is no reason whatsoever to believe Paul anymore than anyone else really. He said things that do not line up with what Jesus said. One was his very different attitude towards women. Where do you find scriptures claiming that the other apostles followed behind Paul trying to repair the damage he was doing? "All scripture is given by inspiration of God" - that would include Paul's epistles.
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2015 13:49:11 GMT -5
I see - so the important thing was that Stranges was a preacher, and it doesn't matter what religion he was? So you obviously don't believe that the workers are God's true messengers on earth then?
Here’s one of the questions I asked yesterday that you didn’t answer: Nathan, here's a quote about Val from that Strange man: "he contacted men of Godly character and strength around the world. Many are presently working in close contact with Val and other members of his crew." As someone who is professing, how do you explain the fact that no workers or friends - men of Godly character and strength - were contacted by this guy?
Don't you think it's strange that he would have avoided a ready-made network on earth to spread the word?
Frank Stranges is dead. If Valiant Thor is still alive and continuing his mission on earth, why do you think he hasn't appeared to anyone else?
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Post by snow on May 28, 2015 14:27:47 GMT -5
Nate I can't get your post to copy very well at least not without some work, so I will answer you here. Jesus was pro women. Paul felt they should be seen and not heard, somewhat like kids or something one owned. That's one difference between Paul and Jesus. Paul was summoned to Jerusalem by the apostles to get him to quit what he was preaching. Here is a website that compares verses in the bible that make it look very much like Paul was not in line with what the original apostles and Jesus taught. www.jesuswordsonly.com/books/175-pauls-contradictions-of-jesus.html
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2015 14:38:55 GMT -5
I see - so the important thing was that Stranges was a preacher, and it doesn't matter what religion he was? So you obviously don't believe that the workers are God's true messengers on earth then? ~~ Yes, the workers are servants of God who are called and chosen by Him/Them but not the ONLY true servants of God.~~ It doesn't matter which way Valiant Thor contacts people.... the contacted has been made with me 3 years ago and I share it with YOU! and the friends and workers who are reading this TMB board.Don't you think it's strange that he would have avoided a ready-made network on earth to spread the word? What do you mean Dr. Frank avoid ready made network to spread the word? He appeared on TV shows, and many radio shows, Ytube lectures, and in making a movie about Valiant Thor's mission on earth but he died in 2008 before the short feature film began and finished in January, 2015. Dr. Frank and Valiant Thor were trying many different avenue methods reaching the multitudes.Frank Stranges is dead. If Valiant Thor is still alive and continuing his mission on earth, why do you think he hasn't appeared to anyone else? How do you Valiant Thor hasn't appeared to anyone else?So if the workers are not the only true servants of God on earth, who are the others? Do you believe Frank Stranges was a true servant of God? Valiant Thor did NOT contact you. Frank Stranges did not contact you either. You watched videos and read a book. I’m talking about DIRECT CONTACT – it’s just NOT happening. Who are the men of godly strength and character that Stranges claims Valiant Thor contacted in person? I’ve yet to see one single friend or worker on this forum that believes anything you’ve said about Valiant Thor or Frank Stranges. What do the people in your meeting think? The ready-made network I was talking about was the friends and workers already established around the earth. Do you not think that is the most obvious network for God to use to spread the word? Yet not one of those people ever had a visit from Valiant Thor, he did not attend any meetings, missions or conventions anywhere, ever. How come Valiant Thor could dematerialize and reassemble his atoms so as not to be seen, yet his spaceship had to hide in a wood? Where are those people who 'saw' the spaceship leave?
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Post by snow on May 28, 2015 15:09:38 GMT -5
So if the workers are not the only true servants of God on earth, who are the others? Do you believe Frank Stranges was a true servant of God? Valiant Thor did NOT contact you. Frank Stranges did not contact you either. You watched videos and read a book. I’m talking about DIRECT CONTACT – it’s just NOT happening. Who are the men of godly strength and character that Stranges claims Valiant Thor contacted in person? I’ve yet to see one single friend or worker on this forum that believes anything you’ve said about Valiant Thor or Frank Stranges. What do the people in your meeting think? The ready-made network I was talking about was the friends and workers already established around the earth. Do you not think that is the most obvious network for God to use to spread the word? Yet not one of those people ever had a visit from Valiant Thor, he did not attend any meetings, missions or conventions anywhere, ever. How come Valiant Thor could dematerialize and reassemble his atoms so as not to be seen, yet his spaceship had to hide in a wood? Where are those people who 'saw' the spaceship leave? Well maybe if he exists he doesn't believe the 2x2's are the true church, or he just doesn't exist period.
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