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Post by fixit on Sept 8, 2014 0:12:30 GMT -5
We have just returned from Di Linh...What a wonderful gathering of golden friends. God made our cup overflow. We can not express all our heart of grateful to God for His keeping and provision. We will share our heart and pictures when we are settled. Please share when you can MT. We appreciate your openness, which contrasts with the secrecy of system-minded people. I think of some words of Jesus:
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Post by minhthanh on Sept 8, 2014 1:16:36 GMT -5
I want to share a little part of the things that uncle Hoa talked… In Joshua 3&4, Israel people crossed the Jordan river… What a wonderful image! Joshua and God’s people traveled according to the arrangement of God and they kept, obeyed the things that God commanded and taught them. I was helped when heard about * the children of Israel did so as Joshua commanded, and took up twelve stones out of the midst of Jordan, as the LORD spake unto Joshua, according to the number of the tribes of the children of Israel, and carried them over with them unto the place where they lodged, and laid them down there. * And Joshua set up twelve stones in the midst of Jordan, in the place where the feet of the priests which bare the ark of the covenant stood: and they are there unto this day.
The twelve stones that were carried from the middle of Jordan river were used to mark the crossing so everybody could see and remember. The same as the work of God’s people carry over throughout their journey, many people can see and are reminded The other twelve stones that Joshua, His servant put in the middle of the river, have still existed until now…When God’s people had crossed, the water covered them again…Those stones are the same as the quiet works of His servants, when they have been finished, no one know or see any more… but in front of God, those quiet works, only God see and remember. We shared each other these things when we were on the bus back home for nearly 6 hours. My father said he had heard many preachers talking about the journey across the Jordan river, but he had never heard about the meaning as this day. This help us want to serve God more, especially those quiet works. To pray eagerly to each other in secret place, the caring, sharing and feeding spiritually which all will be remembered by God, even though others don’t know. Uncle Hoa also reminded… if we do anything in order others can see and compliment, we will lose great blessing, that is the reward and compliment from God I maybe can’t remember accurately the sharing of uncle Hoa, as well as of other friends. But the atmosphere of Heaven, the joy of meeting together in a moment, the love and the unity in the fellowship…made all of us be encouraged and felt our cup overflowed. We had many things to share, gradually I will tell more the wonders that God reserves for us, His little flock Some people traveled a day before, some travel during the night. A day before it was raining heavily. Fortunately on the day of gathering we had a nice day.
From 18 different places gathering here, more 90 people. Some friends can not come because they are not in good health
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Post by Roselyn T on Sept 8, 2014 2:37:51 GMT -5
Thanks for noticing this, IS! These things have been very much all throughout the VN issue as far as NB is concerned. His loyalties are well known and I respect him for that...however he is in NO position to play peacemaker at all for he crumbles when the powers that be turn their collective eye upon him or he perceives that they may do so quickly! That's fine as long as it remains in NB's home court! But for him to go over there as some kind of emissary to broker peace between the workers who are set upon the path they've set upon and those who have weathered 40 yrs. of 2x2 fellowship without such plans and controls, there is need to keep the number of players in the field as they are, at the very least. We see where uncle Hoa has taken himself...right out of the workers' playing field and more of God's power to him, I pray! I do not feel that uncle Chau really perceives the situation correctly! He knows his purpose when he professed many years ago and like NB he is holding onto that with strong hand and feet for he feels if he doesn't then he will be bound for hell...the preaching has reached him many years ago, regardless of who preached it...whether the worker was loved or was motivated by power madness as we see in the example of the Alberta excommunication and that which has came out of VN now! 1) Maybe somebody can explain how that while uncle Chau is in Cambodia that he is fulfilling the VN authorities legal recognition of him and his church? Doesn't sound like to me that VN and Cambodia share legal authorities, do they? 2) No, NB has shown wavering of his thoughts and ideas all throughout this thread....he was sure of one thing, then when that didn't pan out, he would try to explain that away! This is no way to put confidence into his abilities as peace broker for the VN scandal amongst the overseers who are into just making sure they gain the control of the VN Friends and workers! Why is the control necessary? Is it just a deep seated need to be just up one manship for one worker over another? If that is the case then God surely will not bless that as it is not the spirit of a servant......and I've seen little God blessing of the workers in VN so far. ~~ What do you mean wavering of thoughts and ideas? I told the readers what I know from those who are involved. The blessing is I see and marvel uncle Chau's spirit and the sufferings he endured through it all.3) I feel strongly about NB's ability to do anything more then to quietly sit back and watch the workers play their little games of gaining control......he is strong in his 2x2 profession and that is okay, but he cannot help the situation in VN due to his inability to hold to one viewpoint as IS showed above and as I've tried to show. I am not against NB, but I feel he could jeopardize uncle Chau and the friends in VN more by going there and appear friendly then have to pull back due to his perception from the overseers that he isn't pleasing them! That;'s just how some 2x2s do one another....it's old hat......then NB finds himself in an uncomfortable position and will find himself sitting on the fence as far as his home workers may be concerned! I feel they cannot be all that pleased that he is on TMB nor his website either...but there's a reason they allow him to go on.....but at what expense in the long run? ~~ You're so wrong. I have mentioned MANY times in the past I do NOT like to see what some of the foreigners workers had done in VN and I am against such unlike Christ spirits. My overseer, and a few of former companions KNOW about my website and they like it. They have sent my website to the friends who are having trouble with the history of 2x2, CSA situation, doctrinal topics, etc.. Different workers, the friends and exes on TMB have told me in Private message how they've appreciated my contribution on here.Nathan there are a few things on your website in regard to the Henderson children that I totally disagree with. We can give an opinion on something BUT if we don't know all the details we need to be careful of giving advise to others.
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Post by sharingtheriches on Sept 8, 2014 9:26:54 GMT -5
Thanks for noticing this, IS! These things have been very much all throughout the VN issue as far as NB is concerned. His loyalties are well known and I respect him for that...however he is in NO position to play peacemaker at all for he crumbles when the powers that be turn their collective eye upon him or he perceives that they may do so quickly! That's fine as long as it remains in NB's home court! But for him to go over there as some kind of emissary to broker peace between the workers who are set upon the path they've set upon and those who have weathered 40 yrs. of 2x2 fellowship without such plans and controls, there is need to keep the number of players in the field as they are, at the very least. We see where uncle Hoa has taken himself...right out of the workers' playing field and more of God's power to him, I pray! I do not feel that uncle Chau really perceives the situation correctly! He knows his purpose when he professed many years ago and like NB he is holding onto that with strong hand and feet for he feels if he doesn't then he will be bound for hell...the preaching has reached him many years ago, regardless of who preached it...whether the worker was loved or was motivated by power madness as we see in the example of the Alberta excommunication and that which has came out of VN now! 1) Maybe somebody can explain how that while uncle Chau is in Cambodia that he is fulfilling the VN authorities legal recognition of him and his church? Doesn't sound like to me that VN and Cambodia share legal authorities, do they? 2) No, NB has shown wavering of his thoughts and ideas all throughout this thread....he was sure of one thing, then when that didn't pan out, he would try to explain that away! This is no way to put confidence into his abilities as peace broker for the VN scandal amongst the overseers who are into just making sure they gain the control of the VN Friends and workers! Why is the control necessary? Is it just a deep seated need to be just up one manship for one worker over another? If that is the case then God surely will not bless that as it is not the spirit of a servant......and I've seen little God blessing of the workers in VN so far. ~~ What do you mean wavering of thoughts and ideas? I told the readers what I know from those who are involved. The blessing is I see and marvel uncle Chau's spirit and the sufferings he endured through it all.3) I feel strongly about NB's ability to do anything more then to quietly sit back and watch the workers play their little games of gaining control......he is strong in his 2x2 profession and that is okay, but he cannot help the situation in VN due to his inability to hold to one viewpoint as IS showed above and as I've tried to show. I am not against NB, but I feel he could jeopardize uncle Chau and the friends in VN more by going there and appear friendly then have to pull back due to his perception from the overseers that he isn't pleasing them! That;'s just how some 2x2s do one another....it's old hat......then NB finds himself in an uncomfortable position and will find himself sitting on the fence as far as his home workers may be concerned! I feel they cannot be all that pleased that he is on TMB nor his website either...but there's a reason they allow him to go on.....but at what expense in the long run? ~~ You're so wrong. I have mentioned MANY times in the past I do NOT like to see what some of the foreigners workers had done in VN and I am against such unlike Christ spirits. My overseer, and a few of former companions KNOW about my website and they like it. They have sent my website to the friends who are having trouble with the history of 2x2, CSA situation, doctrinal topics, etc.. Different workers, the friends and exes on TMB have told me in Private message how they've appreciated my contribution on here.Nathan, you've helped me in understanding the Divinity of our God and Saviour and I respect and love you for that. However, I do find you to waver when it comes down to pressing against the workers, particularly those who've done so much damage in VN! I realize it is because you wish to stay true to your 2x2 profession and that when the hands come down that if you're to be placed in the place that you must not have anything to do with MT and her dear ones because they no longer are considered "professing 2x2s" OR if you do have something to do with them you will suffer your own discomfort and possible excommunication in the states! You know that is very possible, and probably very probable....so why as a young man would you not "waver" when the pressure mounts, eh? It's kind of like blindly following the leaders and most professing folks have to do some of that when the chips are down and you well know that, by now!! The workers that are involved with this fiasco have already proven themselves through the Alberta excommunications and the costs that came to many professing friends in that..... So I would expect you to kowtow to the workers even before expressing your own opinion about what or what not they've done! This is just survival, isn't it? You've always held tight to your training/education of the 2x2 religion and you've shown that when you speak about those that no longer profess and are lost and who the workers should and likely would contact to get back into the religion! This saying that these non=professing folks not being saved shows where your beliefs are, and that is okay, but at the same time shows exactly the content of your belief against those who are no longer in the 2x2 religion! We all have appreciated your contributions on TMB, but my concern is where you will findyourself amongst all of this when you are pressed for you've shown the wavering enough for me to know that you cannot afford to loose that which you feel is what the workers preach and who is saved and who isn't saved according to what religion they belong to!
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Sept 8, 2014 19:53:40 GMT -5
Post by Roselyn T on Sept 8, 2014 19:53:40 GMT -5
Nathan did you see my last post ?
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Sept 9, 2014 3:38:30 GMT -5
Post by Roselyn T on Sept 9, 2014 3:38:30 GMT -5
Thank you Nathan, I am just concerned about somethings you said on your website in regard to this.
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Post by xuanhoan on Sept 10, 2014 22:15:11 GMT -5
When I read in Acts, I tried to find if there was any organisation that Jesus had established but I didn't find anywhere. So I drew a conclusion that our Lord doesn't want to worship God through an organisation. Organisation can helps in some aspects but not the first priority of worshiping. One of the reasons I abandoned Catholic to follow 2x2ism because the workers preached that "this way" doesn't have any organisation, workers go out only by faith. But when the mess in VN happened, I saw a big organisation. The header is an international overseer maybe Dale Shultz, then regional overseer, state overseer. They divide a state into fields the same in Catholic, every "bishop" has a field. The organisation easily generates the hypocrisy so our Lord taught us to worship Him in spirit, the place is not important. This is only my opinion. What are yours?
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Sept 10, 2014 23:38:31 GMT -5
Post by minhthanh on Sept 10, 2014 23:38:31 GMT -5
When I talked a little about the 2x2 group to our ministers at our local church their response was "it seems so much like the Catholic church". They don't mean in terms of church buildings, symbolisms, trappings etc but: - the hierarchy - the absolute power of Head Workers - the role of a worker in determining who is saved - professing through a worker, a worker determining when/if a person is baptised, workers putting sanctions on people and determining who is in/out, workers believing that they are the sole arbiters of God's grace in the world (other ministers are unsaved etc) Some organisation is clearly necessary but I guess history is littered with church organisations which have gone off the rails. In some cases, the organisation wasn't the problem (although often it became an "end" in itself rather than a means to an end) - the real problem was when people took their eyes of the everlasting message of Jesus. Thank you your comment, it makes me clearer. Organisation is not an end, it's only a means to an end. The 2x2ism uses this to bind many people.
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Sept 11, 2014 1:20:12 GMT -5
Post by fixit on Sept 11, 2014 1:20:12 GMT -5
(although often it became an "end" in itself rather than a means to an end) - the real problem was when people took their eyes of the everlasting message of Jesus. Submission to the will of the organization is not always the same as submission to the will of God, yet system-minded people insist that it is. This from Dale Shultz:
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Post by sharingtheriches on Sept 11, 2014 9:46:25 GMT -5
When I read in Acts, I tried to find if there was any organisation that Jesus had established but I didn't find anywhere. So I drew a conclusion that our Lord doesn't want to worship God through an organisation. Organisation can helps in some aspects but not the first priority of worshiping. One of the reasons I abandoned Catholic to follow 2x2ism because the workers preached that "this way" doesn't have any organisation, workers go out only by faith. But when the mess in VN happened, I saw a big organisation. The header is an international overseer maybe Dale Shultz, then regional overseer, state overseer. They divide a state into fields the same in Catholic, every "bishop" has a field. The organisation easily generates the hypocrisy so our Lord taught us to worship Him in spirit, the place is not important. This is only my opinion. What are yours? You are correct! I've heard all of my life that the 2x2s are nOT an organization, but an "organism"! We have the story of Ed Cooney being excommunicated because he did not want to be "organized" of where he would go to preach the gospel! The other beginning workers decided that they wanted to set up their little playing fields and did so. I think most all of the beginning workers eventually were "overseers" of some capacity! I think Dale Schulz replaced the western US overseer and Taylor Wood replaced George Walker, and now Barry Barkley replaced Taylor Wood. It seems that each overseer is responsible to "train" his replacement, in the fashion of letting the do their job ut being observed while the previous overseers' overseer was still alive enough to do so. BB did most of Taylor's work for him in the last few years Taylor lived......Also in the organization there are 3-4 other overseers that help the main overseer do his job by doing the travelling and the disposing of the need. It would seem that Ray H. is lining up for Barry's position...he seems to be Barry's right hand! I do not mind the organization, but I do mind them saying for over 50-100 years they are organized when the government of the different countries have their "name" on file! People seem to think that they can appear organized before the country they live and work in, but then when it comes down to the friends the workers are vehement about not being an organization! And as you reminded us, Jesus told the Samaritan woman that the time would come when even worship would not be in the Temple nor would it be in the mountains there in Samaria, but that God desires that we worship Him in spirit and in truth! This seems to tell me that church affiliation has little to do with our salvation, but that it turns out to be a "social" thing, so people can gather together that are of similar minds......but then when we do that, are we really worshipping God in spirit and in truth? Are we not really tending to our own flesh's need for social gatherings?
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Sept 13, 2014 4:44:11 GMT -5
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Post by minhthanh on Sept 13, 2014 4:44:11 GMT -5
(although often it became an "end" in itself rather than a means to an end) - the real problem was when people took their eyes of the everlasting message of Jesus. Submission to the will of the organization is not always the same as submission to the will of God, yet system-minded people insist that it is. This from Dale Shultz: Submission to the will of the organization is not always the same as submission to the will of GodI do agree with you Fixit... I see it very clearly with the way some of Vietnamese workers submitting to the will of the 2x2 organization. I don't see any submission to the will of God in their action. Only seeing completely the opposition/contrast. The result of submission is the arrogance for those who venerate overseers, or the sadness for those who don't agree with the way of organizing of the overseers who are controlling.
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Post by minhthanh on Sept 13, 2014 23:33:03 GMT -5
Act 28: 31 He proclaimed the kingdom of God and taught about the Lord Jesus Christ—with all boldness and without hindrance! This was the preaching work of apostle Paul.Obeying the organisation makes us to be tied by many rules and laws… and to hinder the workers following the guidance of The Holy Spitit.The work of God in Vietnam still has a great need, with a lot of workers but they have been bound and controlled in a small area/field. So the work of God stand still…
Galatians 2 I wanted to be sure I was not running and had not been running my race in vain. 3 Yet not even Titus, who was with me, was compelled to be circumcised, even though he was a Greek. 4 This matter arose because some false believers had infiltrated our ranks to spy on the freedom we have in Christ Jesus and to make us slaves. 5 We did not give in to them for a moment, so that the truth of the gospel might be preserved for you.Like the image of apostle Paul, uncle Hoa hasn’t wasted any minutes for his life, not let to be bound by the organisation, but put himself under the guidance of the Holy Spirit to bring the gospel freely/unboundly to many people.There were a lot of children sitting quietly throughout 2 sessions of gathering of us in Di LinhWe have an airy, broad place to gather together in Di Linh
There were some people listening the gospel, they had to cover more than thousand km to join with us
Mr Tam and Giang, who live very far from Di Linh
This is Mr. Tam from Quảng Nam (Noth of the Middle of Vietnam). He is uncle of Bình Tân, a golden friend couple. The boy named Giang (he was introduced in a previous post) listened the gopspel through uncle Chau and had professed through 2x2 workers in the time the mess was happening. Now he accompanies uncle Hoa whenever he has time. He took his mother crossing more than thousand kilometers to join the meeting. They live in Chau Doc, the utmost south of Vietnam. she took with herself the palm tree sugar, speciality of that place, to offer friends. Mr Tam and Giang’s mother are listening the gospel everytime uncle Hoa come visiting them. They are thirsty the words of God because they live very far from God’s people.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2014 16:03:40 GMT -5
Minh Thanh, ma'am, some have questioned me about the correct phonetic pronunciation of your and Xuan Hoan's names, and I had to confess that after 50 years I have forgotten most I've ever learned about such things, retaining only a few phrases. Could you please give us the correct phonetic spelling of your names, please? Thank you.
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Post by minhthanh on Sept 17, 2014 1:13:09 GMT -5
Minh Thanh, ma'am, some have questioned me about the correct phonetic pronunciation of your and Xuan Hoan's names, and I had to confess that after 50 years I have forgotten most I've ever learned about such things, retaining only a few phrases. Could you please give us the correct phonetic spelling of your names, please? Thank you. I can't type phonetic symbol here so I find the approximately similar sound in English words
Minh Thanh pronounces similar the word min (minimum) than Xuan Hoan pronounces similar the word soon houn(d)
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Post by minhthanh on Sept 17, 2014 3:39:03 GMT -5
My father wants to share his letter after he attended the gathering in Di Linh.
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Sept 17, 2014 4:59:56 GMT -5
Post by holdmyhand on Sept 17, 2014 4:59:56 GMT -5
Thank you for sharing your joy and fellowship with us, both in words and photos, the Lord truly looks after his own. You are a great inspiration, standing true to your conviction regardless of the cost, our prayers and thoughts are often directed toward you all
How long was your special meeting , did others also preach with Uncle Hoa ?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2014 5:16:14 GMT -5
"Roger that, Sir." How I wish I could come visit you folks, and revisit the Del Sol south of Da Nang in peace time! Indeed, my prayers are with you all and for you all, warm with grace and thankfulness. May all find the joy and peace our Lord intended. Also wish I could be there to assist Uncle Hoa, if he should be unable to read this, please share it with him. Our home shall be open to him and anyone able to visit as soon as we finish this huge restoration project! May the happiness of contentment be with you all. In His greater love and grace, Dennis Jacobsen.
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Sept 18, 2014 10:30:34 GMT -5
Post by minhthanh on Sept 18, 2014 10:30:34 GMT -5
Thank you for sharing your joy and fellowship with us, both in words and photos, the Lord truly looks after his own. You are a great inspiration, standing true to your conviction regardless of the cost, our prayers and thoughts are often directed toward you all How long was your special meeting , did others also preach with Uncle Hoa ? we took much time to travel. The special meeting was 4 hours. Only uncle Hoa preached.
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Sept 18, 2014 18:10:49 GMT -5
Post by sharingtheriches on Sept 18, 2014 18:10:49 GMT -5
My father wants to share his letter after he attended the gathering in Di Linh.
Beloved father of Minhthanh, thank you for sharing the outpourings of the riches of your spirit! It's is great encouragement to know of those who have faced great tribulations and yet remain so great within their faith in the living God and their loving Saviour! Yes, many prayers go out for VN folks who even yet are 2x2s and not yet totally understanding of the unrighteous dealings of some of the overseers dealing with the 2x2 faith in VN! I keep praying that the VN authorities will step in and demand that uncle Chau be sent home to VN and given the title and position for which they recognize him! I suspect this is the thorn in the overseers' side!
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Post by minhthanh on Sept 18, 2014 22:24:29 GMT -5
Today I want to share with you the joy of uncle Trọng, completely different from the day to Suoi Lanh. You can see his sastified smile beside his wife, his son, his daughter’s family and his cousin going together to special meeting. He has a son and six daughters who were one time all in the same 2x2 religion. When his fourth daughter went into the field / became a worker, she said to me that: “I am grateful for the faithfulness of my father” I hope some day she will say to me again the same statement, not opposing his father’s belief, when he is still keeping the faithfulness as usual. His only son, facing some problems in his life, but he still loves W&F. The workers came visiting him and persuaded him not to associate with us. He answered that the signs such as the love, the unity, the joy which he sees and perceives, he knows that God is with uncle Hoa so he wants to have fellowship with golden friends. The eldest daughter’s family also experienced many struggles in order to go to the special meeting. She has a class at home to prepare children entering the first class of primary shool. She shared his testimony in the special meeting… “the thing that I fear most is returning\giving back the wrong children…But I am happy that although the children are still little and don’t know much, they know clearly and exactly who are their parents, who are their brothers or sisters and they run directly to them. She continued she didn’t expect to know much, she needed to know God, the Father and who are her brothers and sisters clearly and exactly in order she can be in God’s house where there are unity and love.
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Post by xuanhoan on Sept 25, 2014 2:49:05 GMT -5
I have wondered if Jesus came to this earth to bring us a religious organisation such as Roman Catholic, Protestant or two by two. I don't find anywhere such organisations in the Bible but He condemned them such as Saducee, Pharisee. But I have found some things He has brought to the earth: -The fire. -The freedom (not being bound by unreasonable things) -The true way of worshipping (in spirit) -The Way to Father, the Truth and the life. John 14:6 -The Faith in The Son of God. I think there is still a long list. The true servant of God will continue bringing these to mankind but not the control, dominion...
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2014 11:09:45 GMT -5
Dear Minhthanh, Xoanhoan, and the rest of our dear Vietnam friends;
You all are in our thoughts (and prayers) very often, wishing we lived close enough (or wealthy enough) to visit you all in person from time to time. However, at the present anyway, that is just not in the foreseeable future. It is very encouraging to know that the very same Holy Spirit we find guiding us, we see also guiding you, as we reach common understanding with you as obvious in your posting here. I personally value this very highly and am always anxious to read what you have to post here. Thank you for making all the effort and taking the time to do so.
It is a joy to know as we look to our Lord, God and Savior for that which means more to us than even life itself, that we share such common, effectual and life changing belief, and sorrow for any who do not know such zeal and joy. We have an English hymn, which says "we would see Jesus for other lights are paling which we have rejoiced to see," and "we would see Jesus for the shadows lengthen across this little landscape of our life".
Thinking about this, I understand how before noon, shadows shorten, and the closer to sunset the faster they lengthen. As I approach the sunset of my life I see this happening, family and friends passing from this awareness, leaving me to value the vision of my Lord, God and Savior more than ever, and I know you all are feeling the very same way. I look forward to that day when I shall know even as I am known. Our God will bless and keep you until the end of time for us.
In His Grace,
Dennis
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2014 21:25:02 GMT -5
Just want you all to know you are in daily thoughts and prayers.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2014 19:24:43 GMT -5
Minh Thanh, ma'am, some have questioned me about the correct phonetic pronunciation of your and Xuan Hoan's names, and I had to confess that after 50 years I have forgotten most I've ever learned about such things, retaining only a few phrases. Could you please give us the correct phonetic spelling of your names, please? Thank you. I can't type phonetic symbol here so I find the approximately similar sound in English words
Minh Thanh pronounces similar the word min (minimum) than Xuan Hoan pronounces similar the word soon houn(d)how come you have a different last name from your husband? or is that your middle name(Thanh)? or do vietnamese women not take thier husbands last name when they get married?
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Post by minhthanh on Sept 30, 2014 0:36:45 GMT -5
I can't type phonetic symbol here so I find the approximately similar sound in English words
Minh Thanh pronounces similar the word min (minimum) than Xuan Hoan pronounces similar the word soon houn(d)how come you have a different last name from your husband? or is that your middle name(Thanh)? or do vietnamese women not take thier husbands last name when they get married? Hoàn and Thanh are our first names. Xuân & Minh are the middle names. We have the same last name Nguyen. There are a lot of people have last name Nguyễn in VN.
Vietnamese custom doesn’t change the last name of the woman when she is married …
Today I want to share the joy with you all about the professing of two teenagers last week.
- Khang is the boy whose aunt professed in the beginning of this year. His parents were divorced and he has lived with his aunt since then.
- Duyên Anh is the girl who was B&R in 2x2, whose grandma, father are still in 2x2ism. Her father had stroke many years ago so her mother has worked hard to raise her. She often follows her mother coming to our fellowship meeting.
Her decision to have the same belief as her mother is a great encouragement to her mother. (her mother was absent at the last special meeting in Di Linh because she was ill and gone to the hospital)
The girl with white shirt is Duyen Anh
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Post by sharingtheriches on Oct 2, 2014 10:07:40 GMT -5
I can say that the size of the meetings show just how special they are to you folks! I'm thankful that uncle Hoa is still able to go and do as he has so many years before. Actually it seems he is doing more.....but then I wasn't aware of him before the split with the2x2 workership.
I pray that uncle Chau can soon be brought back to VN as that is where he should be by VN law according to what's been explained to me. Are the America/Canadian workers trying to get him in trouble with the authorities? So the authorities will be forced to remove his name as head of the 2x2 church in VN? That thought just came to me......
I'm praying all is settled according to that which the dear VN folks can handle and be well served by the workers and not be put into straits over demanded high dinners, etc
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Oct 2, 2014 20:08:09 GMT -5
Post by minhthanh on Oct 2, 2014 20:08:09 GMT -5
I pray that uncle Chau can soon be brought back to VN as that is where he should be by VN law according to what's been explained to me. Are the America/Canadian workers trying to get him in trouble with the authorities? So the authorities will be forced to remove his name as head of the 2x2 church in VN? That thought just came to me...... Thank you for your prayer Sharon, God also hears our prayers, too… Uncle Châu is going back to VN next month…
With my hearing in the past, there is also the time Mr Lyle will back to VN.
I don’t know the real reason they sent uncle Châu back to VN…
Because of his health isn’t good, or easy for Mr Lyle control…
Just WAIT & SEE.
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Vietnam
Oct 16, 2014 0:07:45 GMT -5
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Post by minhthanh on Oct 16, 2014 0:07:45 GMT -5
Recently we were busy of preparing for the Baptizm. On October 12, 2014 there were 15 people prepared to be baptised. There were a lot of things causing us to see the protection of God and His seal on the friends that overwhelmed our hearts of gratitude to God. Because two days previously, it rained so heavily and even that early Sunday morning it was raining and the sky gloomy. But when we arrived at the baptizm place, it became dry…and sunny with warm climate. We were protected many times in such way…we think in the old time God protected His people by the pile of cloud and fire.Here is the picture of 15 friends prepared to walk down to the water.
Uncle Hoa praying before Baptizm
Some friends prepared the lake by blocking the spring and digging deeper some weeks in advance.
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