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SARCASM
Jun 21, 2006 23:23:32 GMT -5
Post by newleaf on Jun 21, 2006 23:23:32 GMT -5
For all you fellows who are biting and snarling at each other, is this a Christian virtue? Main Entry: sar·casm Pronunciation: 'sär-"ka-z&m Function: noun Etymology: French or Late Latin; French sarcasme, from Late Latin sarcasmos, from Greek sarkasmos, from sarkazein to tear flesh, bite the lips in rage, sneer, from sark-, sarx flesh; probably akin to Avestan thwar&s- to cut 1 : a sharp and often satirical or ironic utterance designed to cut or give pain <tired of continual sarcasms> 2 a : a mode of satirical wit depending for its effect on bitter, caustic, and often ironic language that is usually directed against an individual b : the use or language of sarcasm <this is no time to indulge in sarcasm> synonym see WIT www.m-w.com/dictionary/sarcasm
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SARCASM
Jun 21, 2006 23:25:23 GMT -5
Post by newleaf on Jun 21, 2006 23:25:23 GMT -5
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SARCASM
Jun 21, 2006 23:29:23 GMT -5
Post by newleaf on Jun 21, 2006 23:29:23 GMT -5
Today's Talker Men learn sarcasm is an important tool Anne McIlroy / Toronto Globe and Mail You go into work, grab a coffee and sit down with the newspaper. A co-worker walks by and says, "Don't work too hard." Is the sarcastic colleague more likely to be a man, or a woman? Scientists would say a man. Men make sarcastic comments twice as often as women do, said University of Western Ontario psychologist Albert Katz, an expert in sarcasm and other forms of non-literal language. Some of the experiments he and his colleagues have done suggest both sexes use sarcasm as an indirect form of verbal aggression that gets a message across in ways people will remember. Women, however, are champs at sarcasm when it is used to cut other women out of a conversation or a social group, he said. "This is called relational aggression, a tendency to cut people out. It tends to be a female phenomenon." This fits in with early childhood development studies that found young boys to be more physically aggressive, but girls are more likely to exclude someone from a group. Preschoolers do not use sarcasm -- they take words literally. Studies have suggested that even teenagers can have difficulty understanding irony and sarcasm. Still, by adulthood, sarcasm is an important communication tool for men. Researchers have found that men and women expect men to be more sarcastic. In one experiment, male and female volunteers are asked to read a number of written passages with sarcastic statements in them. There are no clues in the material as to whether the sarcastic character is a man or woman, but men and women are more likely to guess it is a man. detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060124/LIFESTYLE/601240324
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SARCASM
Jun 21, 2006 23:40:34 GMT -5
Post by newleaf on Jun 21, 2006 23:40:34 GMT -5
Sarcasm Hurts Jesus In the past few weeks I have found myself tempted to reply with sarcastic innuendoes when people would say things that hurt me. I began to reflect on this attitude, and asked God to bring conviction upon my heart, and share His wisdom with me regarding it. My first thought was to go to God’s word, and explore it topically. What I found really opened my eyes to just how harmful sarcasm can be. When Jesus was crucified, the soldiers mocked him sarcastically: · Matthew 27:28-29 And they stripped Him, and put a scarlet robe on Him. And after weaving a crown of thorns, they put it on His head, and a reed in His right hand; and they kneeled down before Him and mocked Him, saying, "Hail, King of the Jews!" The Greek word for “mocked” is empaizo and it means, to jeer at, i.e. deride. To ‘jeer’ is defined as, you guessed it, sarcasm! It means, to utter severe, sarcastic reflections; to scoff; to deride; to flout; to make a mock of. In this world of high tech gadgets, the Internet has become a means of communication worldwide in an environment where there is no face-to-face contact, and human emotions are secure behind the glowing light of a PC monitor.
On message boards and in chat rooms across the country, it seems so easy to get careless, and shoot from the hip. Reacting in a way that derides the other person, or swaps insult for insult, is not only harmful to the one doing it, but to the Lord Jesus himself. · Matthew 25:40 "And the King will answer and say to them, 'Truly I say to you, to the extent that you did it to one of these brothers of Mine, even the least of them, you did it to Me.’ NAS I cannot justify my sarcasm by saying that I am “passionate” about certain topics. I refuse to give my flesh this luxury. It seems to me that sarcasm is especially infectious where there is an environment of highly intelligent minds interacting. There are such subtle ways to make comments that will poke, jab and dig, but I know this is not the way Jesus wants me to communicate. King Herod treated Jesus with contempt and sarcasm: · Luke 23:11 And Herod with his soldiers, after treating Him with contempt and mocking Him, dressed Him in a gorgeous robe and sent Him back to Pilate. As I meditated upon this, I realized that sarcasm is connected to a much deeper issue of the heart…anger. When I get hurt, I feel anger. Instead of allowing the Lord to be my comfort, and looking through the other person’s eyes, and trying to identify with their pain, I just want to lash back. So I am seeking the Lord Jesus, my Parakletos, to show me day by day, from one circumstance to the next, how to be a demonstration of his love, mercy, tenderness and compassion. · 1 Peter 3:8-9 To sum up, let all be harmonious, sympathetic, brotherly, kindhearted, and humble in spirit; not returning evil for evil, or insult for insult, but giving a blessing instead; for you were called for the very purpose that you might inherit a blessing NAS By the way, if I have offended anyone with any kind of sarcastic innuendo, I humbly ask for your forgiveness, and say a heartfelt, “I’m sorry.” I am endeavoring to share my views in the spirit of Christ. Love to all, Craig B. www.bibleanswerstand.org/sarcasm.htm
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SARCASM
Jun 21, 2006 23:52:28 GMT -5
Post by buildings on Jun 21, 2006 23:52:28 GMT -5
According to your website it is OK to meet in homes made by hands but not church buildings? although you start it by saying that God does not dwell in houses or temples. People used to go to temples to find God, today we go to church to meet and worship with other believers. Why is it OK to meet and worship in a home but not a building built for that purpose? A church is not a temple and a church is not a place to find God. God dwells within the believer, not a house or church building.
I'm not sure I have seen many posts from you newleaf, but you say that people have said things to hurt you, maybe I missed these posts. What posts are you talking about or did you use other names?
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think upon these things
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SARCASM
Jun 22, 2006 0:06:12 GMT -5
Post by think upon these things on Jun 22, 2006 0:06:12 GMT -5
We are supposed to set our light on a hill for all to see. Sitting in a home, hiding it under a bushel does not save anyone.
Is it better to buy a house or rent one? If you rent you don't have all the up keep etc just as you have argued that one has to do with a Church building, but still people believe the best and cheapest and the best option is to buy rather than rent.
If we just used a church building one day a week like the workers do then there is no sense in buying one but most churches use their buildings throughout the week.
Of course there is no use the workers buying a building because they do not have enough people for a building. How much money goes into convention grounds - that is a waste of money for something that is used for 4 - 8 days or so a year? Thousands and thousands, and how much money goes in renting buildings for Gospel meetings? Work out how much money goes into these things and churches probably spend less money for the amount of time they use their building than what the workers do.
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SARCASM
Jun 22, 2006 0:09:22 GMT -5
Post by newleaf on Jun 22, 2006 0:09:22 GMT -5
That is not a link to MY website, just a link to a post I found on sarcasm.
No one has hurt me yet. I have just been observing on here and wanted to add some gentle rebukes/nudges to a few people's consciences, if there is such.
Men need to act like adult men, not adolescent schoolboys and deal with their anger through counseling or something other than hurting faceless, nameless people on an internet chat board.
Physical exercise really does relieve negative emotions like pent up anger and frustration.
Good night all!
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SARCASM
Jun 22, 2006 0:18:59 GMT -5
Post by selah on Jun 22, 2006 0:18:59 GMT -5
Thank you Craig, for your insight into sarcasm. What a helpful post..much appreciated.
Blessings, Linda
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SARCASM
Jun 22, 2006 0:40:39 GMT -5
Post by Cali on Jun 22, 2006 0:40:39 GMT -5
But, I am confused......
Newleaf, you sign your posts "Craig B", but your profile says you are female. Can you explain?
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SARCASM
Jun 22, 2006 0:44:23 GMT -5
Post by ilylo on Jun 22, 2006 0:44:23 GMT -5
Craig B. is the author of the article at the link given by newleaf.
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SARCASM
Jun 22, 2006 0:54:05 GMT -5
Post by think on these on Jun 22, 2006 0:54:05 GMT -5
Ok - I understand now. Thanks for the post newleaf.
from Buildings and think on these
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SARCASM
Jun 22, 2006 8:54:10 GMT -5
Post by ClayRandall on Jun 22, 2006 8:54:10 GMT -5
No one has hurt me yet. I have just been observing on here and wanted to add some gentle rebukes/nudges to a few people's consciences, if there is such. If there is such what - people with consciences here on the TMB? That wasn't sarcasm, was it? Men need to act like adult men, not adolescent schoolboys and deal with their anger through counseling or something other than hurting faceless, nameless people on an internet chat board. Physical exercise really does relieve negative emotions like pent up anger and frustration. I had something sarcastic to say here, but I won't... I'll only say that well-placed sarcasm can be an effective communicating tool without being hateful.
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Jun 22, 2006 9:03:45 GMT -5
Post by Roy on Jun 22, 2006 9:03:45 GMT -5
Craig B. How is it that you post as a female yet the name Craig is usually a male name? Something isn't consistant. It was a good post.
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SARCASM
Jun 22, 2006 9:06:11 GMT -5
Post by ilylo on Jun 22, 2006 9:06:11 GMT -5
Craig B. How is it that you post as a female yet the name Craig is usually a male name? Something isn't consistant. It was a good post. Read reply #9
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SARCASM
Jun 22, 2006 12:18:08 GMT -5
Post by ian on Jun 22, 2006 12:18:08 GMT -5
I don't see sarcasm as evil or nasty. In many cases its just darned funny. generally the funniest are those from the group signing "ilylo"
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SARCASM
Jun 22, 2006 14:50:38 GMT -5
Post by newleaf on Jun 22, 2006 14:50:38 GMT -5
Response: I am sitting here chuckling to myself at how many things CAN really be taken as sarcastic without meaning them to be, especially on chat boards and IM where one cannot hear the tone of voice! No one has hurt me yet. I have just been observing on here and wanted to add some gentle rebukes/nudges to a few people's consciences, if there is such. If there is such what - people with consciences here on the TMB? That wasn't sarcasm, was it? RESP: No, that was NOT meant as sarcasm but could be taken that way. I meant if there could be a "gentle" rebuke/nudge/kick in the pants! Men need to act like adult men, not adolescent schoolboys and deal with their anger through counseling or something other than hurting faceless, nameless people on an internet chat board. Physical exercise really does relieve negative emotions like pent up anger and frustration. I had something sarcastic to say here, but I won't... RESP: Hhhhmmmm...only the limits of the imagination. Be careful though someone may accuse you of taking it wrong or thinking something other than they alluded to or made an innuendo that you interpreted and they will throw it back at you. I'll only say that well-placed sarcasm can be an effective communicating tool without being hateful. Yes, it does have its place and I am well versed in it because I use it myself and was raised with a father who taught us well in the ways of sarcasm. My point is that it can be taken too far.........
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Jun 22, 2006 15:15:26 GMT -5
Post by Hey hey hey on Jun 22, 2006 15:15:26 GMT -5
It's about time someone posted SARCASM on this board
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Jun 22, 2006 15:16:26 GMT -5
Post by ilylo on Jun 22, 2006 15:16:26 GMT -5
It's about time someone posted SARCASM on this board I agree.
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SARCASM
Jul 16, 2006 0:19:00 GMT -5
Post by me again on Jul 16, 2006 0:19:00 GMT -5
sarcasm is MY friend
my favorite kind of humor
intent is the difference between hateful sarcasm and funny sarcasm
live long enough and you will see the difference
practice enough, get the verbal inflections correct and OTHERS will see the difference
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SARCASM
Jul 16, 2006 0:59:58 GMT -5
Post by Do not see it on Jul 16, 2006 0:59:58 GMT -5
Sarcasm Hurts Jesus The Greek word for “mocked” is empaizo and it means, to jeer at, i.e. deride. To ‘jeer’ is defined as, you guessed it, sarcasm! It means, to utter severe, sarcastic reflections; to scoff; to deride; to flout; to make a mock of. I would like to know the dictionary you used that equated jeer and mock with sarcasm. Thanks
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SARCASM
Aug 24, 2006 18:39:06 GMT -5
Post by just me on Aug 24, 2006 18:39:06 GMT -5
uh oh Better tell GOD that!!! Sarcasim in the bible from GOD no less: Job 38:21 21 Surely you know, for you were already born! You have lived so many years!
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