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Post by inatent on Aug 1, 2004 20:22:16 GMT -5
Now that the target has become churches considered to be Christian, it becomes more clear that this is indeed a religious war. I don't think we can be safe in assuming that, if American soldiers pull out, anyone who is not a Muslim will survive.
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Post by db on Aug 2, 2004 11:58:15 GMT -5
Now that the target has become churches considered to be Christian, it becomes more clear that this is indeed a religious war. I don't think we can be safe in assuming that, if American soldiers pull out, anyone who is not a Muslim will survive. inatent What do you mean, "considered to be Christian"? Where they not Christian churches?
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Post by Just Here on Aug 2, 2004 12:49:55 GMT -5
Now that the target has become churches considered to be Christian, it becomes more clear that this is indeed a religious war. I don't think we can be safe in assuming that, if American soldiers pull out, anyone who is not a Muslim will survive. inatent Do you really think this is religious war? Do you think the Crusades really were a religious war? Did Spain, Portugal, England, and even the Catholic Church sponsor 'exploration' in the hope of converting more people to Christianity? Or was th hope to get more people to 'convert' so they could deliver more of whatever goods were in demand? Or is just possible now, as it was then, that there has been a religious veneer placed over the conflict? What better way to get people to kill themselves for a cause than to tell them they are dying for God. Notice that the leaders are not out there lining up to meet their God(s).
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Post by cat on Aug 2, 2004 12:53:46 GMT -5
Do you really think this is religious war? They are killing people in the name of their religion. They started this religious war and we are tasked with finishing it.
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Post by Just Here on Aug 2, 2004 13:10:54 GMT -5
They are killing people in the name of their religion. They started this religious war and we are tasked with finishing it. The Spanish killed the natives that would not convert in the name of their religion but judging from the amount of gold and silver that was shipped to Europe the question of what the real reason for the conquest was must be raised. How will we end it? The same way we are ending terrorism? Instituting torture as an acceptable practice as long as it does not lead to death? Invading random countries where terrorists live? Building larger jails to contain them? Abusing the captives we have so they will start to share our beliefs? But I guess it is OK. I am certain someone will point out we are not yet as bad as Saddam was.
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Post by hillbill on Aug 2, 2004 13:33:12 GMT -5
Who is Instituting tortrue? Who is invading RANDOM countries? Who is abusing captives so they will share our beliefs?
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Post by Just Here on Aug 2, 2004 13:41:42 GMT -5
Who is Instituting tortrue? You neew to get out more. The US justice department announced the guidelines some time ago. No permanent organ damage and no death. Other than that, as the song says, "Anything Goes". Just guessing that was how Iraq was picked. There are a lot of countries that are supporting terrorism. Do you know some logical reason for the choice? You are right. I don't know why we are abusing the captives we have. Why do you think it happened?
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Post by uican on Aug 2, 2004 13:58:05 GMT -5
You are incorrect. Please research the topic more in depth.
This quote shows me that you are not in touch with reality and most likely are basing your assumptions on far leftwing media outlets.
We went into Iraq because British intelligence, Russian intelligence, and our own intelligence believed he had WMDs and the US was in danger.
I did not ask why, I asked who.
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Post by inatent on Aug 2, 2004 20:37:36 GMT -5
What do you mean, "considered to be Christian"? Where they not Christian churches? They are Christian churches only, IMO, if Christ established them. I don't know this to be a fact.
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Post by inatent on Aug 2, 2004 20:39:09 GMT -5
Do you really think this is religious war? Do you think the Crusades really were a religious war? Did Spain, Portugal, England, and even the Catholic Church sponsor 'exploration' in the hope of converting more people to Christianity? Or was th hope to get more people to 'convert' so they could deliver more of whatever goods were in demand? Or is just possible now, as it was then, that there has been a religious veneer placed over the conflict? What better way to get people to kill themselves for a cause than to tell them they are dying for God. Notice that the leaders are not out there lining up to meet their God(s). You do make a point. I am sure there are opportunists in the conflict, but I still believe the motivation is primarily "we are right and we are going to kill you if you don't submit to us". Most soldiers believe in what they are fighting for, deceived or not. inatent
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Post by hilow on Aug 2, 2004 21:22:17 GMT -5
They are Christian churches only, IMO, if Christ established them. I don't know this to be a fact. So your church is out then? Or did Christ come back in 1897?
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Post by inatent on Aug 2, 2004 23:28:46 GMT -5
So your church is out then? Or did Christ come back in 1897? I don't have a "church". I accept only the meaning of the word that reflects the body of Christ; its HIS church, as it was in the beginning and will be forevermore. Ephesians 4:4-5 There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling; One Lord, one faith, one baptism, If God didn't do it, it isn't His. Why is that so hard to understand? inatent
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Post by hilow on Aug 3, 2004 0:30:42 GMT -5
I don't have a "church". I accept only the meaning of the word that reflects the body of Christ; its HIS church, as it was in the beginning and will be forevermore. Ephesians 4:4-5 There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling; One Lord, one faith, one baptism, If God didn't do it, it isn't His. Why is that so hard to understand? inatent You are a member of a fellowship that meets in the homes. The preachers are called workers and the members are called friends. Do you reject all other fellowships that are not associated with the fellowship you attend? Why is it so hard for you to understand that your fellowship on a whole reject all other Christian fellowships?
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