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Post by disgusted on Jul 2, 2004 15:22:39 GMT -5
Why are hospitals sending cancer patients home to die? Who wants someone in your home dying. It is such a helpless feeling. So helpless! Once doctors pronounce the person with a limited time to live, the sick person is sent home. Should kids watch their parent die at home? Can't hospitals provide places for people to die? Believe me, if you have experienced someone bedfast for weeks at home, it is very depressing. People need some time and space away from this! It is time that hospitals and doctors be STOPPED from sending people home to die UNLESS the family requests them to be sent home.
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Post by Really Disgusted on Jul 2, 2004 17:18:07 GMT -5
Why are hospitals sending cancer patients home to die? The purpose of a hospital is to make people well so they can leave. When nothing more can be done for a person the hospital is not the appropriate place for them to stay. People who love and care about the dying person. Their time is short it would seem that you would want to spend as much time with them as possible. Try to remember that it is not all about you. Poor you. Having to see someone die. Did you ever stop and consider the person who is actually dying? The level of selfishness here is overwhelming. Nope - they should just have them put to sleep so it will not disrupt their lives. Perhaps just leave them on the sidewalk with the trash and someone will pick them up. Cant you? They are, after all, your parents. Take some responsibility. Boo Hoo! Poor you.. Get a grip. If it is depressing for you think how it is for them. With you around it must be just a little slice of Heaven. I think in this place people = you. Are you willing to pay for their un-needed stay in the hospital? Of course you could just shoot them.
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Post by Disgusted on Jul 2, 2004 17:33:52 GMT -5
Really Disgusted, Don't be such an ass. It isn't just ME. It is anyone who has to deal with this. Dying people don't have a future memory. I have always said that sickness bothers the well people around them as much as it bothers the patient. Most dying people aren't aware where they are.
Isn't good for children to watch a relative die by degrees!
Cancer is a hateful disease.
Can't hospitals have a ward where people die?
The medical profession are a bunch of money hungry pigs for the most part. There are some good doctors out there. But many of them are money hungry.
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Post by ClayRandall on Jul 2, 2004 18:48:39 GMT -5
Most of the patients I've taken care of in that situation actually prefer to be at home. They've expressed fear at dying in some strange hospital room instead of in the comfort of their own home surrounded by family.
Once home, there are good hospice nurses who can care for the needs of the patient and the family rather than running up astronomical hospital bills.
fwiw,
Clay
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Post by inatent on Jul 2, 2004 19:53:22 GMT -5
. . . . I have always said that sickness bothers the well people around them as much as it bothers the patient. Anyone who feels that a sick or dying person is a bother should be required to switch places! . . . . Most dying people aren't aware where they are. Irrelevant . . . . Isn't good for children to watch a relative die by degrees! Yes, it is very good for children to see this. It is an excellent education to help them think seriously about their own life, and to learn to love. . . . . Cancer is a hateful disease. All the more reason that the sick person needs other around them and the well people need to share the experience. . . . . Can't hospitals have a ward where people die? Some do. But for the most part the person or the family cannot possibly afford the cost, and most insurance will not pay. Furthermore many if not most of the sick and their families would not choose such an option if they have the means to do it at home. . . . . The medical profession are a bunch of money hungry pigs for the most part. There are some good doctors out there. But many of them are money hungry. Irrelavant. I'm glad you are not in my family! inatent
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2004 21:01:27 GMT -5
Regarding this thread and the comments in it, I am in 100% agreement with Inatent, and those who've expressed similar thoughts to his.
Dying is as much importance as being born It is the means whereby humanity passes from this awareness to the next. As I believe, there will be no other way to exit this life for anyone except through death until the LORD returns. Furthermore, I believe the house of mourning is indeed better for us all than the house of feasting and that those truly living will take it to heart.
My own first cousin's wife has just died a premature death from cancer. Not only did she wish to be at home, so did her family and friends wish it for her, and so she did. Eventually all honored her husband's wishes to remember her as she once was, and not as she had come to be, and he alone was with her at her death at home. I admire them both, and pray for his comfort now she is gone.
There is not one member of my family and closest friends who I would not welcome to spend their last days in our home where they could lovingly and tenderly be cared for even if by necessary hospice care until the end.
My own request is that when I reach the stage where nothing more can be done for me, that I be allowed to slip away as painlessly as possible wishfully with someone nearby who loved me enough to be with me as I depart. Do I demand this of anyone? No, I sure don't and would wish to die alone if there were none who cared about me.
On the other hand, if someone I loved wished to remain in the hospital to die there, I'd do everything possible to see that they could do so. Additionally, I'm sorry that "disgusted" wishes their own selfish views be imposed upon everyone else.
Sincerely,
dj
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Post by bryan2 on Jul 6, 2004 14:03:58 GMT -5
my mother came home to die....
I'm glad she was not in a hospital when she passed away...
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Post by Very Sad on Jul 6, 2004 18:47:05 GMT -5
Really Disgusted, Don't be such an ass. By caring about loved ones? Nope. Nor is it all about you either. It is about a sick and dying person. Many people have to deal with sick and dying people and do so with love and understanding. No one has a future memory. What they have is a connection to the past. Really? It sounds like you have not had a lot of experience with the sick and dying. As I said, you do not sound like you have had a lot of experience with the dying. Just because some can no longer communicate does not mean thay are not aware. Why do you believe this? Do you think cildren think people live forever? Death is a part of life. You start dying the day you are born. Cancer is a disease. Like any disease it neither loves or hates. It just does what it does. Of course they can. But they like to do what is best for the patient. They have freezers as well. But people like to be home. Usually there are those who love and care for them that they would rather be with then in the sterile hospital ward. Of course, it sounds like it might be different in your case. Maybe they would rather stay un the hospital. Or just out on the curb. Right. So they send the people home instead of charging them for a room. Yet you would rather leave your loved one in their care than have them at home. You need to look beyond yourself.
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Post by Sylvestra on Jul 6, 2004 20:57:15 GMT -5
The dying process you speak of is a wonderful opportunity to help teach children some wonderful lessons about giving to and thinking of others before yourself at an appropriate time, about God and His plan for lives, and many other things. It's not something that should be avoided!
Yes, it can be tiring and worrisome for the caregivers, but why would you miss the wonderful opportunity to do the caregiving for someone you love!! There are hospice nurses and home health aides that are usually most helpful -- anyway that's been our experience!
I believe our nation even has laws to allow one to take off work for several weeks to do this caregiving -- or do I remember incorrectly?!
Just my opinion.....
Regards, Edy
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