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Post by nathan02 on Nov 23, 2021 17:39:25 GMT -5
*** The seeds can't grow or produce a harvest if it sit on the shelf. The sowers have to plant the seeds in the ground/hearts of men and women then God and Christ give life in the seeds and it produces great harvest/eternal life. Can you quote from the gospels what Jesus said about human sowers? ** In Matthew 13 Jesus Christ the perfect True example of a good sower... And his servants are to follow his example as a good Sower by sowing TRUE gospel Message and NOT to sow tares/poisonous false seeds/teachings. Paul wrote in I Cor. 3:6-7 I planted the Seed and Apollo watered the Seed but God makes it grows. So, neither he who plants or waters is anything, but only God who makes things grow. |
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Post by fixit on Nov 23, 2021 18:00:20 GMT -5
Can you quote from the gospels what Jesus said about human sowers? ** In Matthew 13 Jesus Christ the perfect True example of a good sower... And his servants are to follow his example as a good Sower by sowing TRUE gospel Message and NOT to sow tares/poisonous false seeds/teachings. Paul wrote in I Cor. 3:6-7 I planted the Seed and Apollo watered the Seed but God makes it grows. So, neither he who plants or waters is anything, but only God who makes things grow. Matthew 13:37 Jesus replied, “The Son of Man is the farmer who plants the good seed. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2021 18:05:02 GMT -5
Can you quote from the gospels what Jesus said about human sowers? ** In Matthew 13 Jesus Christ the perfect True example of a good sower... And his servants are to follow his example as a good Sower by sowing TRUE gospel Message and NOT to sow tares/poisonous false seeds/teachings. Paul wrote in I Cor. 3:6-7 I planted the Seed and Apollo watered the Seed but God makes it grows. So, neither he who plants or waters is anything, but only God who makes things grow. There is also this: Luk_19:21 For I feared thee, because thou art an austere man: thou takest up that thou layedst not down, and reapest that thou didst not sow. Luk_19:22 And he saith unto him, Out of thine own mouth will I judge thee, thou wicked servant. Thou knewest that I was an austere man, taking up that I laid not down, and reaping that I did not sow: Read: If the master didn't sow it then the servants must have.... Then there is this: Mar_16:15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. If preaching ain't sowing then what is it? |
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Post by nathan02 on Nov 23, 2021 18:27:08 GMT -5
** In Matthew 13 Jesus Christ the perfect True example of a good sower... And his servants are to follow his example as a good Sower by sowing TRUE gospel Message and NOT to sow tares/poisonous false seeds/teachings. Paul wrote in I Cor. 3:6-7 I planted the Seed and Apollo watered the Seed but God makes it grows. So, neither he who plants or waters is anything, but only God who makes things grow. Matthew 13:37 Jesus replied, “The Son of Man is the farmer who plants the good seed. ** The KJV It's say Sower back in those days The farmer sow/spreads the seeds with their hands from the pouch on their sides. |
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Post by fixit on Nov 23, 2021 18:40:36 GMT -5
** In Matthew 13 Jesus Christ the perfect True example of a good sower... And his servants are to follow his example as a good Sower by sowing TRUE gospel Message and NOT to sow tares/poisonous false seeds/teachings. Paul wrote in I Cor. 3:6-7 I planted the Seed and Apollo watered the Seed but God makes it grows. So, neither he who plants or waters is anything, but only God who makes things grow. There is also this: Luk_19:21 For I feared thee, because thou art an austere man: thou takest up that thou layedst not down, and reapest that thou didst not sow. Luk_19:22 And he saith unto him, Out of thine own mouth will I judge thee, thou wicked servant. Thou knewest that I was an austere man, taking up that I laid not down, and reaping that I did not sow: Read: If the master didn't sow it then the servants must have.... Then there is this: Mar_16:15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. If preaching ain't sowing then what is it? Preaching? |
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Post by nathan02 on Nov 23, 2021 19:11:45 GMT -5
There is also this: Luk_19:21 For I feared thee, because thou art an austere man: thou takest up that thou layedst not down, and reapest that thou didst not sow. Luk_19:22 And he saith unto him, Out of thine own mouth will I judge thee, thou wicked servant. Thou knewest that I was an austere man, taking up that I laid not down, and reaping that I did not sow: Read: If the master didn't sow it then the servants must have.... Then there is this: Mar_16:15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. If preaching ain't sowing then what is it? Preaching? ** Yes, PREACHING! You are a 2x2 church elder for 50 years and you don't know and understand this? WOW! |
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Post by chuck on Nov 23, 2021 19:59:40 GMT -5
There is a pattern, Last week it was "I" that saved souls, now its the "followers" that save soul's.... So I ask again, what do you need Jesus for, you save souls, the followers save souls, whats Jesus do? and bench warmer?..... *** The true believers are sowers of the gospel seeds in the hearts men and women, but it's Christ give them LIFE or Eternal life and God gives in the increase. The seeds are useless when it left sitting on the shelves! The gospel seed has to be shown in the ground/hearts for it to germinate or come to life and to produce a great harvest. Jesus did the impossible part died on Calvary Cross to pay for our sins! So, our souls can enter heaven after death. That was Jesus sent out the 12, 70 and more sowers in the book of Acts and through out the centuries. After Jesus ascended back to heaven he asked the apostles and His followers to keep on sowing the gospel seeds to the time of His return read Matthew 28:18-20 The great Commission. No Nathan, you said, I SAVE SOULS and FOLLOWERS(2X2'S) SAVE SOULS!. So what's Jesus do as you have just out him out of a job regardless of ones understanding of a saved soul..... Happy for you to change your statements but that is what you said...... |
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Post by chuck on Nov 23, 2021 20:07:56 GMT -5
** In Matthew 13 Jesus Christ the perfect True example of a good sower... And his servants are to follow his example as a good Sower by sowing TRUE gospel Message and NOT to sow tares/poisonous false seeds/teachings. Paul wrote in I Cor. 3:6-7 I planted the Seed and Apollo watered the Seed but God makes it grows. So, neither he who plants or waters is anything, but only God who makes things grow. There is also this: Luk_19:21 For I feared thee, because thou art an austere man: thou takest up that thou layedst not down, and reapest that thou didst not sow. Luk_19:22 And he saith unto him, Out of thine own mouth will I judge thee, thou wicked servant. Thou knewest that I was an austere man, taking up that I laid not down, and reaping that I did not sow: Read: If the master didn't sow it then the servants must have.... Then there is this: Mar_16:15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. If preaching ain't sowing then what is it? Preachers sell something....... The idea behind spreading the gospel is about demonstrating it and not announcing with words before demonstrating it.....so if you cant announce it your idea of preaching, sowing or demonstrating it is null and void because it is all founded on traditions and rituals, take them away and you have nothing to announce or demonstrate........... It would pay to look being the creeds.... |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2021 20:19:30 GMT -5
There is also this: Luk_19:21 For I feared thee, because thou art an austere man: thou takest up that thou layedst not down, and reapest that thou didst not sow. Luk_19:22 And he saith unto him, Out of thine own mouth will I judge thee, thou wicked servant. Thou knewest that I was an austere man, taking up that I laid not down, and reaping that I did not sow: Read: If the master didn't sow it then the servants must have.... Then there is this: Mar_16:15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. If preaching ain't sowing then what is it? Preachers sell something....... The idea behind spreading the gospel is about demonstrating it and not announcing with words before demonstrating it.....so if you cant announce it your idea of preaching, sowing or demonstrating it is null and void because it is all founded on traditions and rituals, take them away and you have nothing to announce or demonstrate........... It would pay to look being the creeds.... So Jesus told them to go out into the world and sell something? |
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Post by nathan02 on Nov 23, 2021 20:19:42 GMT -5
*** The true believers are sowers of the gospel seeds in the hearts men and women, but it's Christ give them LIFE or Eternal life and God gives in the increase. The seeds are useless when it left sitting on the shelves! The gospel seed has to be shown in the ground/hearts for it to germinate or come to life and to produce a great harvest. Jesus did the impossible part died on Calvary Cross to pay for our sins! So, our souls can enter heaven after death. That was Jesus sent out the 12, 70 and more sowers in the book of Acts and through out the centuries. After Jesus ascended back to heaven he asked the apostles and His followers to keep on sowing the gospel seeds to the time of His return read Matthew 28:18-20 The great Commission. No Nathan, you said, I SAVE SOULS and FOLLOWERS(2X2'S) SAVE SOULS!. So what's Jesus do as you have just out him out of a job regardless of ones understanding of a saved soul..... Happy for you to change your statements but that is what you said...... ** I do my part in sharing and teaching the gospel of Jesus Christ on my 2x2 website, message boards for over 20 years and at work with the people at work who are my customers. Wally, Reborn, Review and those like them through the years on TMB. The workers preach the gospel, feed the lambs and sheep of God's people. The friends share their testimonies by their lives to their neighbors, relatives, people they come in contact with every day= WE. |
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Post by chuck on Nov 23, 2021 21:42:34 GMT -5
Preachers sell something....... The idea behind spreading the gospel is about demonstrating it and not announcing with words before demonstrating it.....so if you cant announce it your idea of preaching, sowing or demonstrating it is null and void because it is all founded on traditions and rituals, take them away and you have nothing to announce or demonstrate........... It would pay to look being the creeds.... So Jesus told them to go out into the world and sell something? You wont understand when you think form... |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2021 21:46:13 GMT -5
So Jesus told them to go out into the world and sell something? You wont understand when you think form... You'll never understand without the Holy Spirit. |
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Post by dmmichgood on Nov 23, 2021 23:34:06 GMT -5
You wont understand when you think form... You'll never understand without the Holy Spirit. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2021 23:36:53 GMT -5
You'll never understand without the Holy Spirit. I would expect someone without the Holy Spirit to say such a thing... |
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Post by chuck on Nov 24, 2021 6:37:19 GMT -5
You'll never understand without the Holy Spirit. Amen 😁 |
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Post by chuck on Nov 24, 2021 7:04:19 GMT -5
And Wally, I am afraid that you will never understand that what you want to call the "Holy Spirti" is nothing more than your own opinion and really nothing else. I would expect someone without the Holy Spirit to say such a thing... Actually Dmmichgood has a slave driver free influence(Holy Spirit) more than you could ever bring yourself to acknowledge let alone understand...... |
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Post by nathan on Nov 24, 2021 9:31:45 GMT -5
I would expect someone without the Holy Spirit to say such a thing... Actually Dmmichgood has a slave driver free influence(Holy Spirit) more than you could ever bring yourself to acknowledge let alone understand...... |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2021 13:44:29 GMT -5
I would expect someone without the Holy Spirit to say such a thing... Actually Dmmichgood has a slave driver free influence(Holy Spirit) more than you could ever bring yourself to acknowledge let alone understand...... She doesn't believe in the Holy Spirit like you don't....nice try though |
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Post by dmmichgood on Nov 24, 2021 14:53:44 GMT -5
Actually Dmmichgood has a slave driver free influence(Holy Spirit) more than you could ever bring yourself to acknowledge let alone understand...... |
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Post by verna on Nov 24, 2021 15:18:01 GMT -5
Acts 5 God gives the Holy Spirit to them that OBEY Him. Apparently Peter and Paul didn’t have it either so perhaps he’s in good company. Seems the Holy Spirit is a bit unpredictable. |
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Post by nathan02 on Nov 24, 2021 16:06:18 GMT -5
Acts 5 God gives the Holy Spirit to them that OBEY Him. *** Well, the Truth hurts... Just like bitter medicine you take when you are sick, but it will ease and cure your ailments. |
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Post by chuck on Nov 24, 2021 16:45:55 GMT -5
Actually Dmmichgood has a slave driver free influence(Holy Spirit) more than you could ever bring yourself to acknowledge let alone understand...... She doesn't believe in the Holy Spirit like you don't....nice try though YOUR Holy Spirit..... |
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Post by chuck on Nov 24, 2021 16:51:05 GMT -5
Actually Dmmichgood has a slave driver free influence(Holy Spirit) more than you could ever bring yourself to acknowledge let alone understand...... That's right, and obeying God is not your traditions and rituals..... |
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Post by 1chinesewhispers on Nov 24, 2021 17:24:57 GMT -5
** Yes, PREACHING! You are a 2x2 church elder for 50 years and you don't know and understand this? WOW! At least he attends both ! |
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Post by nathan02 on Nov 24, 2021 17:34:59 GMT -5
** Yes, PREACHING! You are a 2x2 church elder for 50 years and you don't know and understand this? WOW! At least he attends both ! ** He attends both but his heart is far from it as a 2x2. God sees and Knows the heart and their motives. God doesn't look only the outward appearances what people see, but He looks within their hearts that ONLY He KNOWS. |
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Post by 1chinesewhispers on Nov 24, 2021 17:38:08 GMT -5
You think that is your place to judge !?
Look into your own mirror
The Bible warns judgmental people that they will be judged by the same measure with which they judge others (Matthew 7:2). Deuteronomy 1:17 suggests that judgment belongs only to God, not to humans. Rather than being judgmental, the Bible instructs people to have compassion and empathy for others (Ephesians 4:32)
Don't pass judgment. If you find yourself being judgmental, stop yourself. ...Understand. Instead of judging someone for what he's done or how he looks, try instead to understand the person
Accept. Once you begin to understand, or at least think you kind of understand, try to accept. ...
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Post by 1chinesewhispers on Nov 24, 2021 17:45:48 GMT -5
He was picked by the overseer , not you .
You married a non 2X2
He didn’t
You are not a minister
You don’t have meetings in your home , why ?
Apparently you choose to work Sunday’s !
What makes you think you are so holy ? You don’t take the emblems , which is a huge part of being a 2X2
You are just another human . Not even a internet worker .
Just a human , equal to all other humans ! That is even stretching it …………………………………….
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Post by nathan02 on Nov 24, 2021 18:20:03 GMT -5
You think that is your place to judge !? Look into your own mirror The Bible warns judgmental people that they will be judged by the same measure with which they judge others (Matthew 7:2). Deuteronomy 1:17 suggests that judgment belongs only to God, not to humans. Rather than being judgmental, the Bible instructs people to have compassion and empathy for others (Ephesians 4:32) Don't pass judgment. If you find yourself being judgmental, stop yourself. ...Understand. Instead of judging someone for what he's done or how he looks, try instead to understand the person Accept. Once you begin to understand, or at least think you kind of understand, try to accept. ... You wrote judgment belongs to God then WHY are you jugded me on here on this board constantly! You think that is right? Are you a hypocrite and a judgmental person. |
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