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Jun 18, 2006 9:15:18 GMT -5
Post by lloydswanson on Jun 18, 2006 9:15:18 GMT -5
What is sad of all is two by two's have to learn of there past on the internet when workers who are suppose to represent God do not care to disclose or relate to the past and founder in any way shape or form That is sad in my opinion
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Jun 18, 2006 9:17:42 GMT -5
Post by Really on Jun 18, 2006 9:17:42 GMT -5
What is sad of all is two by two's have to learn of there past on the internet when workers who are suppose to represent God do not care to disclose or relate to the past and founder in any way shape or form That is sad in my opinion From your other postings I would have thought you felt differently.
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Jun 18, 2006 9:20:06 GMT -5
Post by prue on Jun 18, 2006 9:20:06 GMT -5
Hi Loyd. I asked the workers and they told me about the early workers. But we are not interested in the messengers as we are in the Message. You are scraping the barrel here for a topic.
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Jun 18, 2006 9:41:27 GMT -5
Post by nitro on Jun 18, 2006 9:41:27 GMT -5
But we are not interested in the messengers as we are in the Message. You are scraping the barrel here for a topic. When I was going to the meetings most of the homes had more pictures of the workers on the piano's,bookshelf's and very few if any pictures of their own family. I know this to be true for my own family and meetings we went to in our area.
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Jun 18, 2006 9:45:40 GMT -5
Post by ex-teenager on Jun 18, 2006 9:45:40 GMT -5
But we are not interested in the messengers as we are in the Message. You are scraping the barrel here for a topic. When I was going to the meetings most of the homes had more pictures of the workers on the piano's,bookshelf's and very few if any pictures of their own family. I know this to be true for my own family and meetings we went to in our area. Some people consider the workers part of their family. Some maybe dont have children of their own, some do but want to remeber the workers. We have one worker photo displayed and about 20-30 family photos, weddings, graduations, first birthdays pics, cousins, aunties, uncles and so on.
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Jun 18, 2006 9:51:11 GMT -5
Post by ilylo on Jun 18, 2006 9:51:11 GMT -5
I'd say a majority of the 2x2 homes I've been in have some kind of a "worker shrine" of photos somewhere. The Kansas workers even enabled the cause by posing for a monthly calendar of themselves a couple of years ago.
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Jun 18, 2006 9:54:23 GMT -5
Post by ex-teenager on Jun 18, 2006 9:54:23 GMT -5
I'd say a majority of the 2x2 homes I've been in have some kind of a "worker shrine" of photos somewhere. The Kansas workers even enabled the cause by posing for a monthly calendar of themselves a couple of years ago. You should sell them on TLT.
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Jun 18, 2006 10:56:14 GMT -5
Post by selah on Jun 18, 2006 10:56:14 GMT -5
I don't see anything wrong with having some pictures of the workers in your home. These are people you love. However, I do object to the workers encouraging this from the platform at convention.
It was said how lovely to see pictures of loved ones on the pianos or bookshelves in the homes of the saints, but how it was even lovelier to see the pictures of those who had given up all for the sake of the gospel. This was spoken in 1980 at Bowsman convention.
Maybe the worker was just stating his personal opinion; he didn't say. But due to the general mindset of most f&w at the time, it was not only a good thing, but a necessary thing, to take to heart everything we heard from the platform at convention. To us, these were the ONLY messengers of God in the world today, and the message they brought was God's message.
I was in the process of enlightenment at the time, and this was the last convention I attended.
Blessings, Linda
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Jun 18, 2006 11:05:35 GMT -5
Post by Bert on Jun 18, 2006 11:05:35 GMT -5
Selah. I don't know the speaker, don't know the context of what you wrote. I did like what one Worker said about a large sign with the words "The MESSENGER with the message." She said it should read "the messenger with the MESSAGE." What was most likely meant from that speaker is that we respect the work. Bit like some who think respect for the English monarchy is to accept the shenanigans of the royal family - the royal family itself should respect the higher notions symbolised by the monarchy.
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Jun 18, 2006 13:24:20 GMT -5
Post by wondering on Jun 18, 2006 13:24:20 GMT -5
Why do the f&w not have pictures of Jesus in their homes instead of pictures of workers. It appears so many times that the number of pictures of workers (and even those that have passed on to "their reward" and been gone for 40+ years) makes it look like they worship the worker instead of God.
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Jun 18, 2006 13:38:36 GMT -5
Post by Young on Jun 18, 2006 13:38:36 GMT -5
Yes please - where can I get a photo of Jesus?
For that matter, what did He look like?
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Jun 18, 2006 16:29:55 GMT -5
Post by firstborn on Jun 18, 2006 16:29:55 GMT -5
Yes please - where can I get a photo of Jesus? For that matter, what did He look like? See Isaiah..
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Jun 18, 2006 21:16:57 GMT -5
Post by nitro on Jun 18, 2006 21:16:57 GMT -5
REV-1
1:12 And I turned to see the voice that spake with me. And being turned, I saw seven golden candlesticks;
1:13 And in the midst of the seven candlesticks one like unto the Son of man, clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps with a golden girdle.
1:14 His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire;
1:15 And his feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace; and his voice as the sound of many waters.
1:16 And he had in his right hand seven stars: and out of his mouth went a sharp twoedged sword: and his countenance was as the sun shineth in his strength.
1:17 And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last:
DRAW THAT PICTURE AND HANG IT UP ABOVE YOUR FIREPLACE.
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Jun 19, 2006 9:16:12 GMT -5
Post by dissenter on Jun 19, 2006 9:16:12 GMT -5
The only think sad is the 2x2s that refuse to deal with early issues and a host of other
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Jun 19, 2006 12:52:30 GMT -5
Post by ClayRandall on Jun 19, 2006 12:52:30 GMT -5
Hi Loyd. I asked the workers and they told me about the early workers. But we are not interested in the messengers as we are in the Message. You are scraping the barrel here for a topic. Once again, if this were true, it wouldn't matter if the Workers go out 2x2, 3x3, 1.5x3.5, etc... Meeting in the home is not a message. Workers traveling 2x2 is not a message.
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Jun 19, 2006 16:28:44 GMT -5
Post by towit on Jun 19, 2006 16:28:44 GMT -5
Hi Loyd. I asked the workers and they told me about the early workers. But we are not interested in the messengers as we are in the Message. You are scraping the barrel here for a topic. Once again, if this were true, it wouldn't matter if the Workers go out 2x2, 3x3, 1.5x3.5, etc... Meeting in the home is not a message. Workers traveling 2x2 is not a message. Clay, In my opinion: the meeting in a home is a message the workers traveling 2x2 is a message Thankfully they aren't the ONLY messages, nor should they be overly emphasised- but they are humble messages, just the same. Sincerely, towit
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Jun 19, 2006 16:36:32 GMT -5
Post by ilylo on Jun 19, 2006 16:36:32 GMT -5
"The church in the home is a part of Jesus, just as the ministry is a part of Jesus, and you cannot have the blood of Jesus without accepting all of Jesus...The truth is the two-and-two ministry and the church meeting in the home." - William Peterson, 2x2 worker
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Jun 19, 2006 16:42:32 GMT -5
Post by towit on Jun 19, 2006 16:42:32 GMT -5
"The church in the home is a part of Jesus, just as the ministry is a part of Jesus, and you cannot have the blood of Jesus without accepting all of Jesus...The truth is the two-and-two ministry and the church meeting in the home."- William Peterson, 2x2 worker I'm not of the same mindset- if that was all there was to the quote above. Other faiths meet in homes- other faiths have ministers that go forth 2x2. And yet- I don't feel drawn to those faiths. It is the high calling of Christ and the Spirit of God moving in His people (and yes, the workers) that make me a so-called 2x2. Sincerely, towit
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Jun 19, 2006 16:44:25 GMT -5
Post by ilylo on Jun 19, 2006 16:44:25 GMT -5
It is the high calling of Christ and the Spirit of God moving in His people (and yes, the workers) that make me a so-called 2x2. I almost assumed it would make you a Christian. My mistake.
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Jun 19, 2006 17:01:38 GMT -5
Post by towit on Jun 19, 2006 17:01:38 GMT -5
It is the high calling of Christ and the Spirit of God moving in His people (and yes, the workers) that make me a so-called 2x2. I almost assumed it would make you a Christian. My mistake. Hmm, a comedian eh?
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Jun 19, 2006 17:03:34 GMT -5
Post by ilylo on Jun 19, 2006 17:03:34 GMT -5
It's not intended as a joke. It just seems that most 2x2s view themselves as 2x2s first and Christians second (if at all).
edit: Once I asked a 2x2 if they were either a 2x2 or a Christian. The reply was nearly book-length.
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Jun 19, 2006 17:10:26 GMT -5
Post by towit on Jun 19, 2006 17:10:26 GMT -5
It's not intended as a joke. It just seems that most 2x2s view themselves as 2x2s first and Christians second (if at all). Other than on this board- how many of the so called 2x2s refer to themselves as 2x2s? I only use the term on this board because it seems to be the term of choice to describe the fellowship of the 2x2s. 2x2s generally refer to themselves as "professing" as in professing to serve Christ.
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Jun 19, 2006 17:21:01 GMT -5
Post by Bryanfromalaska on Jun 19, 2006 17:21:01 GMT -5
Other than on this board- how many of the so called 2x2s refer to themselves as 2x2s? Zero... Incorrect... it's the term used to discribe the members of the fellowship... not the fellowship itself... It is only an identifier... nothing more... just as the term mormon is used to identify members of the LDS church... But you see, the term professing on the context of the 2x2 fellowship has a very different meaning then the term used when describing one's service to Christ.
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Jun 19, 2006 17:53:59 GMT -5
Post by SHUT on Jun 19, 2006 17:53:59 GMT -5
The only think sad is the 2x2s that refuse to deal with early issues and a host of other shut up las
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Jun 19, 2006 17:55:34 GMT -5
Post by ilylo on Jun 19, 2006 17:55:34 GMT -5
shut up las I believe that would be Kelvin's cue...
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Jun 19, 2006 19:40:05 GMT -5
Post by HOW on Jun 19, 2006 19:40:05 GMT -5
shut up las I believe that would be Kelvin's cue... how do you believe that? or are you just ass u ming?
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