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Post by l on May 30, 2006 10:22:59 GMT -5
If I could ask willis propp a question it would be why did you lie in that Edmonton court house?
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Post by amazed on May 30, 2006 10:24:54 GMT -5
What was the lie? What was the case? How do you know he lied?
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Post by l on May 30, 2006 10:28:21 GMT -5
What was the lie? What was the case? How do you know he lied? I know he lied cause his statement is documented in a legal court room
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Post by selah on May 30, 2006 10:29:35 GMT -5
Some of us have the whole case in writing, verbatim.
Blessings, Linda
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Post by l on May 30, 2006 10:36:59 GMT -5
A lawyer asked Willis if William Irvine was the founder of this group he belongs to...he told the court he replied...NO SIR ?
I'm going to tell all concerned he lied in court anything else? I think some would say he lied about some other stuff also mass excommunication from Alberta
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Post by amazed on May 30, 2006 11:04:28 GMT -5
I'm not finding fault, I just was wondering what it was all about. You made a short statement regarding a question you would ask but we don't all know the case behind it.
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Post by Nichole M on May 30, 2006 11:33:44 GMT -5
If I could ask willis propp a question it would be why did you lie in that Edmonton court house? Good Question to ask - but how will you be able to get him to tell you the truth about why he lied? Or will he even admit it? Please don't take this wrong - I am not trying to be difficult with my questions. Just wondering. Nichole
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Post by l on May 30, 2006 11:42:33 GMT -5
I'm not finding fault, I just was wondering what it was all about. You made a short statement regarding a question you would ask but we don't all know the case behind it. Are you aware that there were 100's excommunicated in Alberta did you know that? I believe sask. is tied into also
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Post by l on May 30, 2006 13:03:20 GMT -5
The founder issuse is the big issue crack that you crack it all! I think the head 2x2s don't really want to have folks catch on to this...they would have you believe he was just a worker eh? Kinda mislead and misdirect the whole thing
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Post by eurp on May 30, 2006 13:43:25 GMT -5
Can anyone verify the surprizing claim that 100's were exed?
Or is this another tactic by those intent on destroying the 2x2 fellowship?
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Post by llla on May 30, 2006 13:52:14 GMT -5
Can anyone verify the surprizing claim that 100's were exed? Or is this another tactic by those intent on destroying the 2x2 fellowship? Lloyd made the comment. I would not take every word he says as truth. But then again, how can making such a claim (true or not) Destroy the fellowship?
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Post by eurp on May 30, 2006 14:03:41 GMT -5
" But then again, how can making such a claim (true or not) Destroy the fellowship? "
On its own it will not, but I didn't say it would. I see it as a tactic by those wanting to destroy. How successful a tactic is a matter of conjecture.
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Post by gift on May 30, 2006 14:08:26 GMT -5
" But then again, how can making such a claim (true or not) Destroy the fellowship? " On its own it will not, but I didn't say it would. I see it as a tactic by those wanting to destroy. How successful a tactic is a matter of conjecture. I want to destroy the fellowship only in the sense that I would want to rid it of false doctrines and false teachings. It would destory the fellowship since the fellowship is founded on these false beliefs.
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Post by eurp on May 30, 2006 14:19:14 GMT -5
"I want to destroy the fellowship only in the sense that I would want to rid it of false doctrines and false teachings. "
Perhaps you meant it like this... I want to destroy the fellowship only in the sense that I would want to rid it of what IN MY OPINION are false doctrines and false teachings.
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Post by gift on May 30, 2006 14:28:29 GMT -5
"I want to destroy the fellowship only in the sense that I would want to rid it of false doctrines and false teachings. " Perhaps you meant it like this... I want to destroy the fellowship only in the sense that I would want to rid it of what IN MY OPINION are false doctrines and false teachings. nope, not what I meant.
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Post by eurp on May 30, 2006 15:48:21 GMT -5
Gift So are you just staing that YOUR opinions about false doctrine are right?
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Post by gift on May 30, 2006 15:51:38 GMT -5
Gift So are you just staing that YOUR opinions about false doctrine are right? I did not say that, nor did I mean that.
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Post by Me on May 30, 2006 15:56:48 GMT -5
A lawyer asked Willis if William Irvine was the founder of this group he belongs to...he told the court he replied...NO SIR ? I'm going to tell all concerned he lied in court anything else? I think some would say he lied about some other stuff also mass excommunication from Alberta i believe in his opinion william irvine was not the founder. did william irvine at anytime while in the fellowship claim to be founder? who else did they claim was founder? it is all very well to claim he was lying when you don't know what was in his heart, and your claim could very well be false
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Post by eurp on May 30, 2006 15:56:58 GMT -5
Can you define "false doctrine" please?
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Post by gift on May 30, 2006 15:57:50 GMT -5
Can you define "false doctrine" please? Doctrine that is false.
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Post by eurp on May 30, 2006 15:59:45 GMT -5
Good definition. But somewhat open to much interpretation.
Can you define "false"?
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Post by gift on May 30, 2006 16:08:13 GMT -5
Good definition. But somewhat open to much interpretation. Can you define "false"? something that is not true
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Post by l on May 30, 2006 16:14:55 GMT -5
A lawyer asked Willis if William Irvine was the founder of this group he belongs to...he told the court he replied...NO SIR ? I'm going to tell all concerned he lied in court anything else? I think some would say he lied about some other stuff also mass excommunication from Alberta i believe in his opinion william irvine was not the founder. did william irvine at anytime while in the fellowship claim to be founder? who else did they claim was founder? it is all very well to claim he was lying when you don't know what was in his heart, and your claim could very well be false Jesus is the founder right now who started the 2x2s ;D
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Post by Me on May 30, 2006 16:34:56 GMT -5
i believe in his opinion william irvine was not the founder. did william irvine at anytime while in the fellowship claim to be founder? who else did they claim was founder? it is all very well to claim he was lying when you don't know what was in his heart, and your claim could very well be false Jesus is the founder right now who started the 2x2s ;D Jesus did He sent them forth two & two
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Post by l on May 30, 2006 16:37:26 GMT -5
Jesus is the founder right now who started the 2x2s ;D Jesus did He sent them forth two & two Well there you have it remember you heard it on TMB first
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Post by gift on May 30, 2006 16:37:50 GMT -5
Jesus is the founder right now who started the 2x2s ;D Jesus did He sent them forth two & two Thanks for clearing this HUGE issue up for us... ;D
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Post by l on May 30, 2006 16:39:36 GMT -5
Who is that william irvine fellow then?
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Post by Think again Las on May 30, 2006 16:51:01 GMT -5
Who is that william irvine fellow then? Who founded the Catholic Church? Often there are people who build on what others have started. All of the ideas of WI were not original and many were taken from existing organizations. Even if you did know about WI it could easily be said that Wi was not the founder of the 2x2s but someone who gathered all of the pre-existing ideas together. I think it is all a heap of crap but Las seems focused on finding all of the negative possible.
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