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Post by chad on Jun 18, 2006 0:52:45 GMT -5
Dear Friends, Downing people constantly is not the answer. If we are claiming to be true christians, we need to uplift each other. Making fun of the workers & friends is lowering yourselves to the lowest level. Come on we are more intelligent than this. Stop complaining & help others gain salvation & revelation. Help a homeless person with a free meal, give a hooker a bible to read, give a stranded motorious a ride into town, show God's love & example to all of those who are in need. Stop worrying about what the workers are doing wrong & get on with your lives. We are all human & make mistakes. No one is perfect here on earth, only Jesus was the one! Chad
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Post by ilylo on Jun 18, 2006 0:59:19 GMT -5
Stop worrying about what the workers are doing wrong So... let them continue to do wrong?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2006 1:09:24 GMT -5
For me, I am trying to come clean as much as possible about my past errors. I have come close to dying 4 times in the past year and I want some of these things off my conscience. To tell you the truth, it is all about me, I am not trying to convert anyone, just to tell it like it is. Because to be honest with you, I know secrets that only a select few are privy too. I will be taking a break for a bit, I go into the hospital on Monday, hopefully I will be back soon. I don't intend to sugar coat, lie or obfuscate anymore. The only reason I am here is to be honest and clear my conscience, if that bothers anyone, tough.
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Post by Depends on the question on Jun 18, 2006 1:18:41 GMT -5
Dear Friends, Downing people constantly is not the answer. That depends on what the question was.
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Post by Jeopardy on Jun 18, 2006 1:30:44 GMT -5
What some in or out of the workers' church claim the other does?
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Post by to Daisy on Jun 18, 2006 3:29:22 GMT -5
We will be thinking and praying for you Daisy and look forward to your return.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2006 3:43:34 GMT -5
Thanks!
I really appreciate it. I admit, this has been a tough year for me. Tom Fredgren an extremely young brother worker in CA was sick with something similar a few years ago. He didn't make it, and we are very close in age, so the ordeal has made me very sober. I really appreciate the thoughts and prayers.
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Post by IllinoisGal on Jun 18, 2006 8:42:12 GMT -5
Daisy. God is a healer. The bible tells us so.
He was wounded for our transgressions and he was bruised for our iniquites. Surely the chatisement of our peace was upon him. BY his stripes we are healed.
It also tells us to call the elders of the church and annoint with oil and pray for our healing.
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Post by las logged out on Jun 18, 2006 8:51:08 GMT -5
Dear Friends, Downing people constantly is not the answer. If we are claiming to be true christians, we need to uplift each other. Making fun of the workers & friends is lowering yourselves to the lowest level. Come on we are more intelligent than this. Stop complaining & help others gain salvation & revelation. Help a homeless person with a free meal, give a hooker a bible to read, give a stranded motorious a ride into town, show God's love & example to all of those who are in need. Stop worrying about what the workers are doing wrong & get on with your lives. We are all human & make mistakes. No one is perfect here on earth, only Jesus was the one! Chad I agree Chad I think it is a ongoing shock for people when they discover all this stuff on the Internet...I know when i stop to think I should of known better then to think the 2x2s had no earthly founder just to accept that it originates with Jesus I sould of been able to judge better
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Post by lloydswanson on Jun 18, 2006 9:04:29 GMT -5
i didnt post the post above.....
bringing folks down is the way people must be dragged kicking to realise the truth about there devilish cultish ways - they should of read the secret sect that tells the truth aboyt it all and then it might be has if they were never deceived.
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Post by studylearning unplugged on Jun 18, 2006 12:11:44 GMT -5
I did not have contempt for other Christians... It was workers who had contempt for others in that they told me people could not gain salvation outside of the F&W fellowship. Then they dragged me down by telling me not to speak of such things like this and God the Son is incarnate.
Who put down who? And when the workers ar wrong what do you do?
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Post by clear on Jun 18, 2006 13:41:11 GMT -5
What do you do? when someone pulls you down?
Well the OT makes it clear. Any eye for an eye...
So you just go ahead and retaliate - pull back.
Treat them the way you were treated, bite back. Do not turn the other cheek.
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Post by horsewoman on Jun 18, 2006 14:36:10 GMT -5
clear, when I read your post, I began to weep. I wept for my own attitude that mirrors yours. I realize that God did not make me that way. Deep inside, I know my heart is soft, built on compassion and love. Thank you for giving me the insight of how I really want to be. From now on, I will do the opposite of what you say in this post.
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Post by IllinoisGal on Jun 18, 2006 14:49:56 GMT -5
I believe anytime we have to tear others down to try and make ourselves look good we have some problems of our own to work out.
I know at times Ive had such a big beam in my own eye I wasnt a lick of good to help anyone else. It was me that needed to work on my ownself.
I am so glad God is a forgivng God
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Post by studylearning unplugged on Jun 18, 2006 15:30:10 GMT -5
What do you do? when someone pulls you down? Well the OT makes it clear. Any eye for an eye... So you just go ahead and retaliate - pull back. Treat them the way you were treated, bite back. Do not turn the other cheek. I don't know if you were directing this post to my response or not. I will respond anyway. What I did -- This is it. Tell the truth. Nothing more nothing less. When they did that to me I withdrew. There was no retaliation. If you think telling others about what happened is as you say retaliation, well then so be it. I will not be silent for the sake of false teaching and misguided rebukes.
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To Chad from Simple
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Post by To Chad from Simple on Jun 18, 2006 15:56:00 GMT -5
Dear Friends, Downing people constantly is not the answer. If we are claiming to be true christians, we need to uplift each other. Making fun of the workers & friends is lowering yourselves to the lowest level. Come on we are more intelligent than this. Stop complaining & help others gain salvation & revelation. Help a homeless person with a free meal, give a hooker a bible to read, give a stranded motorious a ride into town, show God's love & example to all of those who are in need. Stop worrying about what the workers are doing wrong & get on with your lives. We are all human & make mistakes. No one is perfect here on earth, only Jesus was the one! Chad The workers have painted a reality full of lies. Who is going to clean up the mess they have created? As Christians who can ignore the misguided? The workers have used their influence on others to glorify themselves, not Christ. The 2x2's need to understand the things beyond themselves. Instead of diminishing everything but themselves. They are equal to all before God, only their inferiority makes them claim the absurd things they claim.
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Post by Jessi on Jun 19, 2006 17:42:21 GMT -5
Somtimes we have to tell the truth in love - to anyone who will listen. And even if they won't, you never know whose are His and he could regenerat a heart on something someone said 10 years ago!
The Bible is the truth and if a "system" is deluding my family and friends, I will try to tell them the truth according to the word of God. But then all I can do is pray (and continue to engage error).
Controversy provokes thought. Argument is not a bad thing. I don't mean striving over words, but arguing a position and exhorting with scripture. All true Christians in the Bible did this (exalted the Word of God). It's ok to hash things out--though civilly.
Love in the Lord, Jessi
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