|
Post by nitro on May 20, 2006 22:30:31 GMT -5
the right to become a member . I just feel like it would make you more legit. Even w/o it I enjoy your point of veiw . nitro
|
|
|
Post by Gene on May 20, 2006 22:31:12 GMT -5
the right to become a member . I just feel like it would make you more legit. Even w/o it I enjoy your point of veiw . nitro Hear, hear!
|
|
|
Post by as i c it on May 20, 2006 23:23:37 GMT -5
Wow! Thank you!!! And what an honour!! And a relief! (On this board you never can quite tell just what it is you might have earned... I know I told you I'd think about it before (and I will): but the idea of going legit is akin to making a committment....and suddenly, I start finding myself unable to breath... So: let me think about it...and maybe...slowly...I'll inch my way up to doing so... Meanwhile: thank you both! And I always enjoy hearing what you two have to say too!!
|
|
|
Post by cornsilk on May 21, 2006 6:22:47 GMT -5
Hey, i c it, it's not a wedding we're anticipating, sheesh............it IS a way for some to privately send you a message that the whole world isn't privy to, however....... My advice is to take the plunge!
|
|
BC
Senior Member
Posts: 852
|
Post by BC on May 21, 2006 6:32:39 GMT -5
as i c it,
Go for it my friend. I would prob be your first private message sender.
[shadow=red,left,300]Regards BC[/shadow]
|
|
|
Post by IllinoisGal on May 21, 2006 7:40:30 GMT -5
[quote}............it IS a way for some to privately send you a message that the whole world isn't privy to, however....... My advice is to take the plunge! [/quote] one of the best reasons to be a member
|
|
|
Post by selah on May 21, 2006 10:11:35 GMT -5
as i c it, You don't have to "earn the right" to register here, but you are definitely a welcome contributor. I think that's what everyone is saying. Don't feel pressured to register until you're ready to, but just know how welcome and respected you are. And...of course...there's private messaging to look forward to! Blessings, Linda
|
|
|
Post by spiderman on May 21, 2006 10:46:06 GMT -5
Besides, there's really no difference when you're registered. No one will know who you are, unless you tell them. It's just nice to be able to follow posts from registered people, and send them PM's if you feel the need. They still will not know your identity. I don't have a clue why anyone would not register, or even give it a second thought.
|
|
IQ
Senior Member
Posts: 942
|
Post by IQ on May 21, 2006 13:05:44 GMT -5
Enjoy the journey thru the cyberworld of the many 2x2s forums, with or without a registered nickname!
By all means, just keep posting and keep hanging out with the rest of us cyber junkies!!
Your words are valued!!!
|
|
|
Post by one of them on May 21, 2006 13:39:16 GMT -5
Registered members can send PMs? But as an unregistered member I cannot PM a registered member. Is that correct? I wanted to PM Cornsilk but did not find a place to do it, so that is what I now assume. But now, about PMs... no wonder a discussion just gets going and then all the "stuffing" comes out of it and it deteriorates to mud-slinging and name calling! All the good discussion goes private. Oh, well. As i c it, I very much like that you are honest and open enough to say all you feel free to say right here on the message board!
|
|
|
Post by ilylo on May 21, 2006 13:52:54 GMT -5
Registered members can send PMs? But as an unregistered member I cannot PM a registered member. Is that correct? I wanted to PM Cornsilk but did not find a place to do it, so that is what I now assume. PMs can only be sent and received by registered accounts.
|
|
BC
Senior Member
Posts: 852
|
Post by BC on May 21, 2006 14:16:52 GMT -5
Registered members can send PMs? But as an unregistered member I cannot PM a registered member. Is that correct? I wanted to PM Cornsilk but did not find a place to do it, so that is what I now assume. But now, about PMs... no wonder a discussion just gets going and then all the "stuffing" comes out of it and it deteriorates to mud-slinging and name calling! All the good discussion goes private. Oh, well. As i c it, I very much like that you are honest and open enough to say all you feel free to say right here on the message board! Hi, I don't believe the conversations "go private" as I am a regular criuser on this board I manage to follow most posts and threads. What I feel happens is that sometimes the main contributors may be unable to post for a few days and the thread then loses it's momentum or otherwise one of the 'hit and runners' highjacks the tread and starts mud slinging and us regulars just back off from the thread and go to a more convivial one. Private messeging is good for personal heart to heart questions or encouragement that on a thread would lead to mud slinging. Also I have often revealed my real self to those I PM and know that they respect my privacy. [shadow=red,left,300]Regards BC[/shadow]
|
|
|
Post by as I c it on May 23, 2006 4:18:59 GMT -5
:)Thank you all. I haven't been ignoring you. I've been going back and forth in my mind: and trying to figure out what it is about becoming a registered poster that is creating such problems for me. The answer is: it would be me becoming a member of another group--when what I need is just to stay free. And a fence-sitter: with individuals I care about on both sides (to keep my thoughts balanced). I'm very easily swayed by those I like...and the proof is I almost took the plunge...(That Spiderman sure can spin a nice reasonable web--and while I'm listening to him, that good old Aussie will be striking a match as the rest of you are all piling on the sticks!!!) Except, of course, for ilylo--who, of course, will just make sure no one is breaking the rules. Has anyone told you??? (That you are a bad, bad, group of people???) Run "one of them"...run....!
|
|
|
Post by as i c it on May 23, 2006 13:44:26 GMT -5
In the above post, I jokingly refer to how "following" the above individuals--or letting their influence into my life--is going to get me burned at the stake--as a heretic. Because knowing them will cause me to question: see things differently: and not "just accept" all that is considered true in the fellowship. I was joking with them--but in re-reading what I posted--I saw again that our attitude (toward those who question: "argue": or who believe/see scripture differently)....is nothing to joke about--and nothing to be proud of: and nothing that is in keeping in line with the spirit of the scriptures. How can we be seekers of truth: or "fighters" for it: if we have been "taught" (or allowed it to become) our custom to "shut down and out" anyone who would see or speak or believe otherwise than what has become "groupthink" Somehow: "groupthink" has become the ONLY right way "to be". And anything other than agreement to it has become...evil: wrong: and thus making it "right" and "acceptable" for us to react negatively against those who dare to think or see or question...anything but "the acceptable" (or accepted mode of thinking/believing). But if you look at what we do: or say: (in our reactions) against those who we are casting our negative glances toward, it is us who are doing wrong scripturally. Who are violating the fruits of the spirit. We as a group brought this attitude into effect. And we as a group allowed it to continue. And we as a group can change it! If we become more conscious of what we're doing.
|
|
|
Post by cornsilk on May 23, 2006 15:59:04 GMT -5
Interesting concept there, as i c it......and I have an interesting tidbit to pass along while we're on this vein of "attitude". Sunday afternoon my son was watching television when the telephone rang. The caller was his friend from school who has been to our home many times, almost like one of my own sons, in fact. My son has gone to church with this young man before. The friend's reason for calling was to ask my son if he was "saved". My son assured him that he is, to which the friend inquired our method of baptism. "Immersion", was the reply. My son's friend then went on to say that the words spoken when one is baptised mean whether or not one attains heaven. If we are baptized in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost then we are not following scripture. We need to be baptized in the name of Jesus only. He told my son that the vs in Matt. 28 has no meaning today. He then told my son that his is the ONLY WAY to heaven and that he can trace his church all the way back to Jesus. He brought my son a paper which said that unless we are baptised by water *immersion* and the Holy Ghost *speaking in tongues* that we will never see heaven. It seemed to me by reading this material, that baptism is their way to salvation. I probably should have started a new vein with this post, but I'm anxious for feedback, if there is any........
*and one of them* if you register, you may PM me.....I'll be happy to answer!
|
|
|
Post by as i c it on May 23, 2006 23:56:51 GMT -5
Cornsilk,
That's very different doctrine...can't say that I've ever heard those things stated before... What church was that?
|
|
|
Post by Rob O on May 24, 2006 0:00:11 GMT -5
Sounds like a Oneness Pentecostal group.
|
|
|
Post by as i c it thanks on May 24, 2006 0:57:53 GMT -5
Thanks Rob! It's good having someone with your scriptural knowledge on this board. I often enjoy eavesdropping in on your discussions/debates with someone.
|
|
|
Post by cornsilk on May 24, 2006 5:18:03 GMT -5
It was an Apostolic church.
|
|
|
Post by as i c it on May 24, 2006 14:14:21 GMT -5
To all that posted here:
I owe you an apology. You paid me a compliment. I slapped you across the face. It was completely unintended. The result of forcing myself to respond (when I was too tired to think) so that I wouldn't insult you (by appearing to ignore you).
Well: that worked out well! obviously (My attempt to joke about ending up excommunicated came out wrong...and maybe the statement that you were bad people too)
The truth is: (and which I think should be apparent) is that I have a great deal of respect for you (and your opinions) which means that I trust you (and what your take is on the various topics). And therefore, they carry a weight with me--which, in turn, can have an influence on me.: or cause me to see something differently.
Nonetheless: I'm also an independent thinker.
I'm sorry if I offended you. None was intended.
And if anyone, anywhere on this board has posted anything to me: and been ignored: there's a very good chance I haven't seen it--especially lately--when I've been posting on the fly (or as "a break"), as I am otherwise occuppied, much these days.
Again: I'm sorry for any offence I may have created. Would have apologized sooner, but didn't "see it" until I just re-read it again. (As I said to Walter: I'm like a cyldsdale walking on eggs...but I bear no one on this board--or in the 2 x 2's--any malice or hard feelings).
Any postings (to anyone on this board) not responded to by me immediately will have nothing to do with what you posted. I'm just slipping in and out again these days.
I
|
|
|
Post by selah on May 24, 2006 19:16:04 GMT -5
Hmmmm, I would have thought it was Oneness or United Pentecostal with that teaching....but I guess there are some exclusive apostolic churches too.....NOT ALL OF THEM though!
Blessings, Linda
|
|
|
Post by selah on May 24, 2006 19:19:50 GMT -5
You know what? Your compassionate spirit shines through your posts. I have never seen or read anything I would consider offensive. You are a dear, and I'm glad you're here! Thank you for caring so much. Thank you for considering how you say things. I think you communicate your heart very very well. You are genuine in spirit, and it shows. Go easy on yourself now... Blessings, Linda
|
|
|
Post by IllinoisGal on May 24, 2006 21:53:05 GMT -5
That is the teaching of Oneness Pentecostals. There are many oneness organizations..The United Pentecostal church International being the largest. The Assemblies of the Lord Jesus Christ being the 2nd largest. Pentecostal Assemblies of the World being the 3rd and many more
|
|
|
Post by as i c it thanks on May 24, 2006 23:26:20 GMT -5
Thank you, Linda,
So does yours! And what I find so good and interesting about this board is that most (probably) didn't come to this board to make friends. They simply came to be honest, about whatever what on their minds, and maybe bothering them, in some way. And yet--somehow--this board has come to be "a community"--where there's a nice balance of personalities, knowledge, and character to it. And each seems to have a role of some kind here...
You can always be counted on for your nice spirit: calming influence: and scriptural knowledge....but it's your spirit, most of all, that shines through first and foremost. InnocentQ is a peacemaker (and a nice defender of Nathan). And so on...with some being leaders (and feeders): some being followers (and seekers): and some contributing their knowledge: or adding a light touch with their great sense of humor.
I'm fairly certain the last one isn't me...
Anyways: you keep on shining: and keep bringing your spirit to this board. It wouldn't be the same without you!!! (And I sincerely mean that!)
|
|
|
Post by as i c it thanks on May 25, 2006 0:52:26 GMT -5
Thank you, Nathan,
It's good to have you on this board too! It always amazes me how you can take a licking and just keep on ticking--and coming back for more (batterings and a-bruisings). But we need you (and others) who I'd list as "characters"--ones we can count on to provide a spark...and get a-something a-going!!!
Meanwhile: I keep thinking: wishing: that all the 2 x 2's and the workers would join us all here! (Surely it'd be good for all...to find out what they really believe...to examine all that they have believed....to gain (perhaps) new knowledge...and to have a bit of fun!
Visiting here has to be alot more interesting (and beneficial to their soul and walk) than many other activities...
Somehow, I think the net is part of God's plan. That maybe you: a) Take a stand for truth: and then b) Have to take a stand for truth That is: previous generations were just able to accept it...(or, just did). But with this generation....it's different. And the 2 x 2's come...when they're ready....
I find it all very interesting--and very beneficial. Cherie did a good thing...in providing a place for everyone to work everything out...
And in doing so, I actually am at peace (once again) with God. And free--from all that once troubled me: and free--to come and go--with a clear conscience before God. (It is good...to just be...)
Peace to you too, Nathan (and to all) who love God. And truth.
|
|
|
Post by as i c it on May 25, 2006 5:15:39 GMT -5
The posters to this thread have been very helpful to me, in working through all the various areas that once concerned me. And I stand by my high opinion of them.
My apology may now have placed them in an awkward position. Which I never intended to place them in: and which is totally unfair to them.
Therefore, I'm going to vote that we delete this entire thread. And intend to ask the administrator to delete my part in it.
|
|
|
Post by to as i c it on May 26, 2006 1:23:56 GMT -5
I do not see how others may feel they are in an awkward position about this thread.
Maybe you are, as i c it?
|
|
|
Post by as i c it on May 26, 2006 2:04:12 GMT -5
to as i c it,
No. I'm not. I made an honest mistake (in attempting a joke that went wrong). I apologized for it. My apology, then (as I see it) may have put the others in (as I've said) an awkward spot...one where they claim to be christians (and therefore, should be willing to forgive me).
Failure to do so does not reflect well upon them. Thus it leaves them in a bad position--one which "forces" them to either accept my apology (when they have no desire to): or--look bad.
I have no desire to see them put in that position.
It isn't fair to them.
I had a good relationship with all of them before. I had no reason to suddenly turn against them. And, I don't intend to turn against them now.
If we'd been having a face-to-face conversation, then the misunderstanding could have been cleared up immediately--and our relationship would still be good. But--because it wasn't in person. And it wasn't caught by me until it was too late.
I appreciated (liked and respected them before this took place): and that it has taken place does not change what I saw and liked and respected about their character--before this event.
And if you read my postings (or know me from my postings) --and any communications that have taken place between us...then...you'll see...the only possible reason--explanation--that exists for my mistake...is..as I said... (an attempt at a joke that went bad).
So: bottom line: I'm trying to protect them: and trying to get them out of the awkward spot I put them in by apologizing. And that's why I'd like this entire thread removed.
|
|