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Post by Hmmmmmm on May 12, 2006 10:11:15 GMT -5
"Think how it would be if they changed their behavior because they wanted to please you rather than because they fear your wrath." How did I ever miss this... You can never make a child respect and honor you by punishing them into it. You must earn it through your love, and loving discipline. Just waiting till you are in private to punish them doesn't do it either. In this situation, the egg throwing when it was given to him, is not something that a person should even address or bring up again, because if it was done to get attention, that would be giving it to him. However, if presented with a situation where the children could sit in the front of the gathering again, I might consider keeping him with me instead of letting him go up there and explaining that because of his disrespectful behaviour the last time... he wouldn't get to this time. But if he could show me that he understood what respectfulness was, he would be able to join the children up there next time.
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Post by MsMarie on May 12, 2006 11:34:36 GMT -5
Please, an end to it, we shall never agree......
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Post by Seemingly on May 12, 2006 14:04:35 GMT -5
Please, an end to it, we shall never agree...... You are not in the discussion any more. While you have expressed your predilection to spank in private, keeping the practice of spanking and the harm it does in the dark recesses will not solve the problem nor make it go away.
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Post by MsMarie on May 13, 2006 2:21:08 GMT -5
I have no need of you to rudely tell me if I am in a discussion or not. However, as I just said, enough is enough and you have a nice new thread for your views on page 1 at present. It is called 'spanking'.
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Post by No One on May 13, 2006 2:27:10 GMT -5
I have no need of you to rudely tell me if I am in a discussion or not. However, as I just said, enough is enough and you have a nice new thread for your views on page 1 at present. It is called 'spanking'. I was not saying you could or could not be in the discussion. I only observed that you were not taking part in the current discussion but were only sporadically commenting that we stop talking about hitting children. Please, tell us the positive aspects of hitting a child to make them behave as you would like.
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Post by MsMarie on May 13, 2006 3:19:14 GMT -5
Well tempted again to reply. I do not believe in any form of physical punishment for children which would leave them distressed or marked. I suspect this is again a generational thing. I was spanked, sometimes with amusement in his eye, by my dad who gave us a sporting chance to run away. So I have fond memories of his chastisement really.
As regards my own two, if you were to ask them, they have no incident based memories, just that a smack on the bottom came after several warnings and it was not a frequent thing. This was done in anger of course, but then I felt the child understands punishment on the spot at the time, and my daughter says it was preferable to having something longer drawn out, like depriving of a treat etc. Most of my spanking was because they harmed each other and their fights could become dangerous.
My mother didn't smack at all, but she had a look she could give us which would stop you in your tracks!
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Post by fighting fire with fire on May 15, 2006 23:17:13 GMT -5
So I have fond memories of his chastisement really. Some people like to be punished. You know the old joke - sadists are people who are kind to masochists. So you punished your cildren for hurting each other by hurting them. Like going to war for peace. Making love for virginity. And look how well you turned out! [/quote]
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Post by MsMarie on May 16, 2006 1:02:46 GMT -5
Sorry I bothered now. Your rudeness doesn't deserve being taken seriously. Probably generational too! Mine behaves with courtesy in discussion. Look how you turned out!
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2006 2:38:20 GMT -5
Which boy did you want to belt MsMarie, which boy would have embarrassed you?
the boy who threw the egg, or the boy who refused the egg???
and.... why do you disagree with spanking that leaves a MARK.
Is it ok to hit them on the head where there is no MARK? (or somewhere else where no mark will show.)
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Post by MsMarie on May 16, 2006 7:44:24 GMT -5
Yawn.......
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Post by oh really on May 16, 2006 12:06:40 GMT -5
What a lovely illustration of the Gospel. Don't you think it was a play to show how some accept the Gospel,some reject it etc. as it illustrates the price that Jesus paid. Don;t you think there was a message in it and the children were playing their part in the illustration and that they were doing exactly what there were meant to do in the play? If, when you say "the Gospel", you mean, the 2x2s, then I say WHAT A CROCK OF sh-!!! Pardon me, but I just am really really sick of people who make the 2x2 way out to be the only right one and the workers the true servants and them being on a closer plane to God and whatever... go stick that egg up your ass! That's what the "truth" is meant for!
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Post by ox on May 16, 2006 16:20:55 GMT -5
Why yawn, MsMarie?
You started it, maybe most of what you say is a BIG YAWN!!!!
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Post by nice job on May 16, 2006 16:33:02 GMT -5
Why yawn, MsMarie? You started it, maybe most of what you say is a BIG YAWN!!!! Ox, thanks for opening your mouth and removing all doubts about how much of an ass you are.
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Post by Please on May 17, 2006 0:24:39 GMT -5
Your rudeness doesn't deserve being taken seriously. Point out the rudness. It looks like the reply took your words as you wrote them and noted that you were hitting your children because they were hurting each other. I wonder where they learned that they could get their siblings to do what they want by hurting them. Of course, many people, when faced with a truth that they would rather not face, will attack the other person rather than address the discussion.
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Post by MsMarie on May 17, 2006 4:10:53 GMT -5
My, you are a vulgar and angry person when someone disagrees with you. I am not in the least, not even when a disgusting allegation was made about my relationship with my father (which should have been removed or pursued I think.) Well you will be delighted to know as of today I am away for the next month and I fervently hope never to see Easter Eggs again. Calm down and pax vobiscum (even if I think you deserve a throroughly good spanking for being so rude!). You can vent out on the spanking thread if you just have to. Bye.
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Post by Wait a minute on May 17, 2006 10:06:35 GMT -5
My, you are a vulgar and angry person when someone disagrees with you. Vulgar? I don't think so. Angry? Yes - I do not believe anyone has the right to hurt a child - even if they call it love. Well, MsMarie, it was you that said you had fond memories regarding being punished by your father. If that is not what you meant explain what you did mean. It was not pursued because it was in the past and the damage/good for what happened is done. Did you wish to pursue that thread? We will await your return with bated breath. Ahh - a spanking from you? Maybe I could begin to see the pleasure in being spanked!
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Post by Cant wait on May 19, 2006 8:19:42 GMT -5
Ahh - a spanking from you? Maybe I could begin to see the pleasure in being spanked! Even the name MsMarie has the right tone! Can't wait until she returns!
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Post by Gifts on May 20, 2006 2:28:01 GMT -5
Ahh - a spanking from you? Maybe I could begin to see the pleasure in being spanked! Even the name MsMarie has the right tone! Can't wait until she returns! Will she be bringing Easter eggs as gifts?
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Post by Hope fills the air on May 21, 2006 0:19:36 GMT -5
Even the name MsMarie has the right tone! Can't wait until she returns! Will she be bringing Easter eggs as gifts? We can only hope so. Do you think there will be candy as well? I need something to think about besides the spanking!
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Post by Waiting quietly on Jun 7, 2006 1:58:28 GMT -5
Will she be bringing Easter eggs as gifts? We can only hope so. Do you think there will be candy as well? I need something to think about besides the spanking! Has MsMarie returned with the Easter Eggs for one and all? But the possibility of a spanking - hmmmmm
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Post by Nooooooo on Jun 7, 2006 7:03:48 GMT -5
But the possibility of a spanking - hmmmmm Oh please don't bring that up or that old fart and that little punk will start arguing in that other thread!
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Post by The cure on Jun 8, 2006 13:38:54 GMT -5
But the possibility of a spanking - hmmmmm Oh please don't bring that up or that old fart and that little punk will start arguing in that other thread! If they do we will have to spank them. That seems to be the cure-all-answer!
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Post by Nooooooo on Jun 8, 2006 13:50:04 GMT -5
If they do we will have to spank them. That seems to be the cure-all-answer! What is the internet equivelent of a spanking?
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Post by ISpank on Jun 8, 2006 15:22:00 GMT -5
If they do we will have to spank them. That seems to be the cure-all-answer! What is the internet equivelent of a spanking? It is having to wade through pages and pages of people justifying hurting their children to make them better people!
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Post by Who Cares on Jun 8, 2006 15:27:19 GMT -5
What is the internet equivelent of a spanking? It is having to wade through pages and pages of people justifying hurting their children to make them better people! As long as she shows with the EGGS! Cadbury Creme Eggs!
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Post by ilylo on Jun 8, 2006 15:30:00 GMT -5
What is the internet equivelent of a spanking? Most internet forum services (including this one) provide administrators the ability to suspend or delete a user's account, as well as prevent a particular IP address further access.
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Post by Nooooooo on Jun 8, 2006 15:39:46 GMT -5
What is the internet equivelent of a spanking? It is having to wade through pages and pages of people justifying hurting their children to make them better people! I guess we all got spanked by the old fart and the young punk then - well I actually read it - kinda fun til it fizzled out.
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Post by guesty on Jun 8, 2006 22:37:31 GMT -5
My comment about the spanking was a joke. I think the easter egg illustration was a bit light and airy to in anyway illustrate the sacrifice of The Lord. IMHO
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