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Post by the basics on Apr 27, 2006 22:34:22 GMT -5
The truth is Jesus, and only Jesus. Not Jesus plus a certain ministry.
Honest hearts are drawn to God and Jesus, not to a certain ministry.
The form of ministry has no bearing on the degree to which a church's members are faithful to God.
Workers are not between God and man, contrary to what they have preached.
Workers are not superior to other people, contrary to what some friends believe.
Workers are not superior to other ministries just because of their form, contrary to what 99.999% of 2x2s believe.
2x2ism is just another church.
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Post by foolish on Apr 27, 2006 23:42:34 GMT -5
2x2ism is another false church
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Post by nice on Apr 28, 2006 0:11:42 GMT -5
nice one Jokers
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Post by nice on Apr 28, 2006 0:12:13 GMT -5
nice one Jokers
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Post by falsie on Apr 28, 2006 1:06:06 GMT -5
All churches are "false".
How do you define "false"?
One that doesn't exist, but people pretent that it does?
A church that doesn't agree to your rules, and plays by its own rules?
One that makes claims that you don't agree to?
One that interprets the bible in a different way to you?
One you just don't like?
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Post by GuestS on Apr 28, 2006 12:30:42 GMT -5
"false" ----one that does NOT teach what the Bible teaches....all of it!
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Post by you said on Apr 28, 2006 15:09:09 GMT -5
You said. ""false" ----one that does NOT teach what the Bible teaches....all of it!"
May be you mean this.
"false" ----one that does NOT teach what I think the Bible teaches....all of it!
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Post by about foolishness on Apr 28, 2006 15:26:08 GMT -5
Who is fooling themself do you think? whoever started this thread should speak for yourself.Posting a dumb topic like this just declares who you are
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Post by l on Apr 28, 2006 16:20:52 GMT -5
I agree with the poster no doubt whoever posted did so cause they know religion is mans attempt at things
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Post by l on Apr 28, 2006 16:22:14 GMT -5
2x2ism is another false church I agree those who check William irvine out and the LWD will have to come to the same conclusions 2x2ism fools itself
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Post by wondering on Apr 28, 2006 18:21:31 GMT -5
what is LWD?
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Post by l on Apr 28, 2006 18:50:14 GMT -5
The (LWD) is the 2x2 doctrine 6-9 workers got kicked out for trying to get rid of it ?It's a heresy
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Post by wondering on Apr 28, 2006 18:58:33 GMT -5
what does it stand for?
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Post by subjective beliefs on Apr 28, 2006 19:10:18 GMT -5
There are no false churches, and no true churches. Churches are churches. People get carried away by their own subjective beliefs.
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Post by déjà vu on Apr 28, 2006 19:37:19 GMT -5
" Workers are not between God and man, contrary to what they have preached."
I agree! What is between God an man is "Nomansland"
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Post by all places on Apr 28, 2006 20:30:26 GMT -5
God is everywhere---there is no between
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Post by thou art fooled on Apr 28, 2006 22:13:41 GMT -5
Who is fooling themself do you think? whoever started this thread should speak for yourself.Posting a dumb topic like this just declares who you are And by replying thus, you have verified everything written in the first post.
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Post by Evidently on Apr 29, 2006 3:24:41 GMT -5
Some posing as Lloyd Swanson said "The (LWD) is the 2x2 doctrine 6-9 workers got kicked out for trying to get rid of it ?It's a heresy"
Is there any evidence that they said this? That they taught this? That they were "kicked out"? That its a heresy?
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Post by l on Apr 29, 2006 7:35:02 GMT -5
The (LWD) stands for one can only be right with God by hearing one of the workers...So the early workers adopted this line of thinking they actually believed it also rebaptized everyone those from other denominations had to be reconfirmed The (LWD) is heresy
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Post by to Lloyd on Apr 29, 2006 11:15:57 GMT -5
"The (LWD) is heresy"
How do you know its heresy?
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Post by l on Apr 29, 2006 11:42:58 GMT -5
"The (LWD) is heresy" How do you know its heresy? The LWD isn't in the bible so it's heresy anyone can call on the name of the Lord and it ain't going threw workers they need
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Post by MsMarie on Apr 29, 2006 12:31:32 GMT -5
I always understood that the Living Witness Doctrine (LWD) meant that just because historically workers could not be traced back to the apostles, God would never have allowed a vacuum to exist and this concludes that the workers must have existed from that time. Is this right, or does it mean that the true gospel can only be heard through the workers?
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Post by opinion on Apr 29, 2006 13:25:09 GMT -5
"The LWD isn't in the bible so it's heresy"
Icecream isn't in the bible, so it must also be heresy?
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Post by obviously on Apr 29, 2006 15:34:14 GMT -5
"The LWD isn't in the bible so it's heresy" Icecream isn't in the bible, so it must also be heresy? Obviuosly Lloyd means the LWD is not in the Bible as a doctrine. What is not so obvious is if you are incapable of understanding that or you are being a jerk or maybe both.
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Post by l on Apr 29, 2006 16:13:46 GMT -5
I always understood that the Living Witness Doctrine (LWD) meant that just because historically workers could not be traced back to the apostles, God would never have allowed a vacuum to exist and this concludes that the workers must have existed from that time. Is this right, or does it mean that the true gospel can only be heard through the workers? It's a fact the workers are not a apostolic succession the 2x2 members are really being taken Drummond a univercity member came up with the ideal that natural life begets natural life and the same with spiritual life so Joe Kerr told this ideal to william Irvine and they come up with the LWD....That one can only be saved by hearing a worker and everyone from other denominations needed to be rebaptised and confirmed with 2x2s.The original 6-9 workers later rejected the (LWD) so you ain't so smart I know whats going on
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Post by LWD on Apr 29, 2006 17:19:11 GMT -5
LWD = Living Witness Doctrine. Meaning one must hear the Gospel through a living witness (the workers) to be saved.
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Post by l on Apr 29, 2006 17:39:29 GMT -5
LWD = Living Witness Doctrine. Meaning one must hear the Gospel through a living witness (the workers) to be saved. \ That is the correct 2x2 doctrine still is same one today
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