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Post by Wondering on Mar 27, 2006 18:16:40 GMT -5
Any details of a deaf and mute special meeting in Iowa US? Workers do attempt to reach out to the mute and deaf as many of them know sign language. I think this meeting is going on this week.
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Post by Yah on Mar 27, 2006 20:46:25 GMT -5
I heard that someone that could not talk, hear or see professed. They did not no anything and the workers could not communicate with them so everyone just assume that they professed. Speak no evil, Hear no evil, See no evil. Just fine with everybody. ;D
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Post by bowhunter on Mar 27, 2006 21:18:38 GMT -5
It is held in north central Iowa this coming weekend.Quite a few of the sister workers know sign language and they interpret for a handful of deaf folks.Some of the hearing friends attend also.I wouldn't call it an outreach-they do have g-meetings for them in that field.
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Post by no body on Mar 28, 2006 1:08:49 GMT -5
Any details of a deaf and mute special meeting in Iowa US? Workers do attempt to reach out to the mute and deaf as many of them know sign language. I think this meeting is going on this week. workers learned sign language to communicate with deaf people who were already in contact or professing, writing was used before saints/workers learned sign there is no organized out-reach to worldly deaf some of the professing deaf had professing family, b/r some were personal friends/spouses that came to meeting and professed many hearing people think they can sign and understand sign-they will be surprised at how much they do not understand if the deaf sign their normal speed and use ASL sign language is a highly developed form of communication-you do not learn it by casual, occasional use-it must be studied, it is an evolving language the numbers of deaf professing are decreasing |
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Post by iv on Mar 28, 2006 8:11:56 GMT -5
Mtgs. are April 1 and 2 at Forest City. One is no interpreters and the other is. The next Sunday is Forest City's regular special meeting. Even outstate workers with signing will attend the first 2 meetings.
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Post by True on Mar 28, 2006 9:54:41 GMT -5
many hearing people think they can sign and understand sign-they will be surprised at how much they do not understand if the deaf sign their normal speed and use ASL
Boy is this true!!!If the deaf don't want you to understand what they are saying (the equivalent of eavesdropping) they kick it into a gear that is just a blur. Some deaf are more aware of the fact that very, very few hearing can actually read signs well, and will make sure they aren't losing you. Even most hearing that are proficient at signing have a hard time reading. Now some folks will think, well don't the deaf want the hearing to understand and go slower? Most of the time, yes. But not in this meeting. They want the freedom of communication in their "natural language" to flow unimpeded in this meeting. The signed only meeting on Saturday is not for the casual signer, but the room will be full of people that are completely lost (as far as understanding the signing).
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Post by bowhunter on Mar 28, 2006 18:08:32 GMT -5
Mtgs. are April 1 and 2 at Forest City. One is no interpreters and the other is. The next Sunday is Forest City's regular special meeting. Even outstate workers with signing will attend the first 2 meetings. What good is it if noone interprets for them-or do you mean the whole meeting will originate in sign and the hearing won't have an interprter? |
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Post by guest5 on Mar 28, 2006 19:12:55 GMT -5
bowhunter - you're from Iowa aren't you? You should know that they don't need interpreters in a meeting that all the audience is supposed to be able to know the sign language. If they don't, that is their tough luck.
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Post by to guest5 on Mar 28, 2006 19:17:33 GMT -5
they don't need interpreters in a meeting that all the audience is supposed to be able to know the sign language. If they don't, that is their tough luck. That was a new policy effective last year-2005. Saturday was no interpreter or voice. Sunday had voicing. |
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Post by mutedeaf on Mar 31, 2006 6:20:55 GMT -5
Would you all just shut up! I'm trying to listen!
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Post by deafer on Mar 31, 2006 7:55:25 GMT -5
Quote: "I heard that someone that could not talk, hear or see professed. "
I heard that someone that didn't even exist professed. Made it alot easier, didn't need a gospel meeting at all
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Post by guest 34 on Mar 31, 2006 9:19:53 GMT -5
I heard that someone that could not talk, hear or see professed. They did not no anything and the workers could not communicate with them so everyone just assume that they professed. Actually, there have been at least 3 (in US) that have come to meetings that could not "talk," "hear," or "see." One b/r. Signs are made into the hand of the deaf/blind person. All of them were/are extremely intelligent. One moved to another state and did not continue attending meetings, health concerns maybe? He had a religious background and knew a lot about the scripture. One don't remember what happened, I know she died. One b/r still attends meetings and has a better command of English than most seeing, hearing and speaking people. He is phenomenal, which has nothing to do with attending meetings. It has everything to do with his educational opportunities, parental encouragement, natural abilities, and willingness to not pity himself. |
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Post by True on Mar 31, 2006 9:51:36 GMT -5
"One b/r still attends meetings and has a better command of English than most seeing, hearing and speaking people. He is phenomenal, which has nothing to do with attending meetings. It has everything to do with his educational opportunities, parental encouragement, natural abilities, and willingness to not pity himself."
One time he wrote us letter and quoted Shakespeare to make his point. FWI, he wasn't always blind. He went blind somewhere in his 20s. Professing or not, he really is an inspiring individual.
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Post by bowhunter on Apr 2, 2006 13:10:57 GMT -5
bowhunter - you're from Iowa aren't you? You should know that they don't need interpreters in a meeting that all the audience is supposed to be able to know the sign language. If they don't, that is their tough luck. I wasn't aware that there were that many workers with signing skills.I know some hearing friends will be there on Sunday-just seemed odd to me that there would be any intrest from the non-deaf friends.How many deaf friends attend? |
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Post by jon on Apr 2, 2006 13:19:50 GMT -5
I enjoy the testimonies translated from the deaf and mute. I wonder if they don't pick up on the exclusive doctrine since they are less likely to attend potlocks or communicate on the phone with other friends. Much of the exclusivism comes from friends being aroud each other as opposed to meeting settings.
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Post by nitro on Apr 2, 2006 13:23:14 GMT -5
Bowhunter I lived in this area and many of the friends that do hear have worked hard at trying to fit into the deaf world. Most know it real well in certain meetings.
As you know there is no attendance posted in the front of these special meeting but a guess would be 80 to 100 mixed hearing and deaf.Truly very special to those who are deaf and for one Sunday the hearing can feel what the deaf feel on a daily basis.
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Post by no body on Apr 2, 2006 15:27:25 GMT -5
It is one thing to say, hello, how are you.....in sign language and completely another to explain about Jehoshaphat. Few people are skilled enough, even if they think they are, or it appears that they are.
The one day special meeting has been expanded to a 2 day deaf convention-the choice of words is not mine but the words of the person that propagated the idea.
The deaf are quick to observe and pick up on the behavior/dress standards and exclusivity. They have spent their lives learning by observing.
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Post by bowhunter on Apr 2, 2006 17:27:32 GMT -5
Bowhunter I lived in this area and many of the friends that do hear have worked hard at trying to fit into the deaf world. Most know it real well in certain meetings. As you know there is no attendance posted in the front of these special meeting but a guess would be 80 to 100 mixed hearing and deaf.Truly very special to those who are deaf and for one Sunday the hearing can feel what the deaf feel on a daily basis. Thanks nitro.Good to hear that the friends have reached out,perhaps beyond their comfort zones.I was trying to remember how many deaf there were from Boyden,Could only think of a few couples.No doubt they find it a special time. |
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Post by YES on Apr 3, 2006 19:48:35 GMT -5
38 workers !
Packed room on Sunday!
Visitors from east and west!
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Post by firstborn on Apr 3, 2006 20:19:51 GMT -5
38 workers ! Packed room on Sunday! Visitors from east and west! 1 savior! No room in the inn. born in a manger! visiting shepherds were told by the angel of the Lord! I bring you good tidings of great joy which will be to all people. |
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