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Post by hh on Mar 25, 2006 7:33:38 GMT -5
Lowly way...Humble way... Yet they claim to be right and others are wrong. Is this really humility?
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Post by guestS on Mar 25, 2006 8:25:12 GMT -5
It's called humble superiority
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Post by bowhunter on Mar 25, 2006 17:36:20 GMT -5
Preachers are expected to talk about humility,then live it out.The workers have an outward humility(most of them)that is a veneer,underneath the wool is wolf fur.You will see the fur when you rub the wool the wrong way-I have seen it several times( I tend to ask hard questions)
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Post by meek and humble on Mar 25, 2006 20:36:42 GMT -5
Bowhunter, it is hard to remain humble when you KNOW that you are right & everybody else is wrong. But certainly the workers do their best to bear the heavy burden of truth...and yet maintain a meek & humble spirit.
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Post by i am write on Mar 25, 2006 23:57:45 GMT -5
Bowhunter, it is hard to remain humble when you KNOW that you are right & everybody else is wrong. But certainly the workers do their best to bear the heavy burden of truth...and yet maintain a meek & humble spirit. Yes, I know I am write and you are rong.... p.s. I am also more humble than YOU so don't GO there.......
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Post by mrtindrucvionging on Mar 26, 2006 0:01:07 GMT -5
Bowhunter, it is hard to remain humble when you KNOW that you are right & everybody else is wrong. But certainly the workers do their best to bear the heavy burden of truth...and yet maintain a meek & humble spirit. Yes, I know I am write and you are rong.... p.s. I am also more humble than YOU so don't GO there....... It's hard to be soft and humble when you are an elitist bowhunter....
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Post by so Mr Ting on Mar 26, 2006 1:22:16 GMT -5
So...mr. ting........does this mean that you believe in 2x2 exclusivity?
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Post by Mr Tindrucvionging Unplugged on Mar 26, 2006 11:21:03 GMT -5
I did NOT make the post #5 above. Please do not confuse me with this post. I do not wish to debate the content of the post and state I am neither in agreement or disagreement with it (I have not studied it or the discourse to which it relates).
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Post by bowhunter on Mar 26, 2006 16:52:36 GMT -5
Yes, I know I am write and you are rong.... p.s. I am also more humble than YOU so don't GO there....... It's hard to be soft and humble when you are an elitist bowhunter.... What is this?'Defend the workers at all cost 'day?Iwas being polite-why can't you?It could be pride that makes a person point out an error,But I wasn't being proud-just truthful.And for what its worth-I wasn't referring only to workers-I believe I used the word preacher?Workers are victims of pride just like the rest of us!We do and should hold church leaders to a higher standard,don't you think?By the way, why would you call me an elitist-I'm not that good of a shot:)The workers aren't the only wolves out there- I have met a few preachers that needed skinning:)
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Post by Simple on Mar 26, 2006 17:13:21 GMT -5
It's hard to be soft and humble when you are an elitist bowhunter.... What is this?'Defend the workers at all cost 'day?Iwas being polite-why can't you?It could be pride that makes a person point out an error,But I wasn't being proud-just truthful.And for what its worth-I wasn't referring only to workers-I believe I used the word preacher?Workers are victims of pride just like the rest of us!We do and should hold church leaders to a higher standard,don't you think?By the way, why would you call me an elitist-I'm not that good of a shot:)The workers aren't the only wolves out there- I have met a few preachers that needed skinning:) There is only one cure...................... GodThere is only one enemy.................. SatanOh how Satan uses our pride and vanity as leverage to keep us from God. He must keep Jesus hidden, but God will not allow that. God loves to glorify his Son, not us, his Son. If we put people before God, we will never know God. If we spend all day on the appearance of things, we are afraid of what others think. We are just as superficial as the ones who judge us. God's unto ourselves. Until you vow to God to be obedient to his command, knowing your ratings will drop with many people when you do what he leads you to do. Many only give lots of lip service, afraid of what others will think. Cowards, not Christians.................... Ruled by fear, not Faith.....................
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Post by davinci on Mar 26, 2006 21:35:58 GMT -5
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Post by horsewoman on Mar 26, 2006 22:20:10 GMT -5
Simple,,,,,how many times has this paragraph applied to me? Whatever the denomination it is so common. But, I know personally that today is the only day I will ever need if I spend it with Jesus in mind.
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Post by Simple on Mar 26, 2006 22:27:27 GMT -5
Simple,,,,,how many times has this paragraph applied to me? Whatever the denomination it is so common. But, I know personally that today is the only day I will ever need if I spend it with Jesus in mind. I certainly had to find this out about myself. Without help from God we are doomed. Our pride is a killer. Sweet Dreams
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Post by quest on Mar 26, 2006 22:54:39 GMT -5
God loves to glorify his Son, not us, his Son. I believe that when one is 'born again' they are also sons of God, as their spirit 'should be' of God and divine, thus God also loves to glorify His children, also, that seems clear to me, in my humble opinion.....
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Post by Simple on Mar 26, 2006 23:42:16 GMT -5
God loves to glorify his Son, not us, his Son. I believe that when one is 'born again' they are also sons of God, as their spirit 'should be' of God and divine, thus God also loves to glorify His children, also, that seems clear to me, in my humble opinion..... As long as God does it who can fault that? The workers have given themselves the best their vanity could find though....... I would never point someone to me. Even on my best days. Then they would expect things from me that only God has to give. I have never gotten from humans, what God gave me. I would not want anyone to settle for my tablescraps. Eat with the one who paid the price, not some benefactor. I am flawed Jesus is not flawed in any way.
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Post by quest on Mar 27, 2006 0:52:08 GMT -5
I believe that when one is 'born again' they are also sons of God, as their spirit 'should be' of God and divine, thus God also loves to glorify His children, also, that seems clear to me, in my humble opinion..... As long as God does it who can fault that? The workers have given themselves the best their vanity could find though....... I would never point someone to me. Even on my best days. Then they would expect things from me that only God has to give. I have never gotten from humans, what God gave me. I would not want anyone to settle for my tablescraps. Eat with the one who paid the price, not some benefactor. I am flawed Jesus is not flawed in any way. no worker talks like you suggest they do, unless you live in some far off land... I have heard,and even feel that Pauls advise to His 'converts' is still valid as ever....and that says to follow him , inas you see that his mannerisms are indeed 'IN LINE' with Christ's example, I think you are liking to 'stir' if you ask me. shame on you.
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Post by MsMarie on Mar 27, 2006 3:40:55 GMT -5
From a non professing family, I remember my father's reaction to what I newly believed regarding exclusivity. He said he was shocked by the breathtaking arrogance of such a belief. Do you mean to say that all other practising Christians outside your new church are wasting their time, that all who died without or not accepting this belief of yours, are doomed? he said. I remember to this day simply saying 'Yes' to both questions. Even your mother, who has just passed on? 'Yes' I said.
I now realise that there is no humility in such beliefs and I can remember feeling superior to 'those out there' now much to my shame.
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Post by Simple on Mar 27, 2006 17:02:32 GMT -5
As long as God does it who can fault that? The workers have given themselves the best their vanity could find though....... I would never point someone to me. Even on my best days. Then they would expect things from me that only God has to give. I have never gotten from humans, what God gave me. I would not want anyone to settle for my tablescraps. Eat with the one who paid the price, not some benefactor. I am flawed Jesus is not flawed in any way. no worker talks like you suggest they do, unless you live in some far off land... I have heard,and even feel that Pauls advise to His 'converts' is still valid as ever....and that says to follow him , inas you see that his mannerisms are indeed 'IN LINE' with Christ's example, I think you are liking to 'stir' if you ask me. shame on you. Paul was starting up and guiding new churches. The 2x2's have been at it awhile. 100 years...... You don't put out a fire by throwing gas on it. The 2x2's are ripe with delusions of their importance Yes they are self important, important to themselves. God is giving them a chance to repent for the claims they have made before the world about who they are. So arrogant and yet so fruitless? Clinging to their pride and vanity. Running from the Truth, hiding in the dark. Using fear to trap their pray and paralize them in the name of who? Not the God of the Bible, They sit on the outside of the door, afraid to go in. Afraid of God, and afraid of the Truth. Just like those two children who disobeyed God in the Garden of Eden. If you don't stay with us you will die they declare. You need us, they squeal. But really its they who need you.
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Post by hmmmm on Mar 27, 2006 18:09:02 GMT -5
no worker talks like you suggest they do, unless you live in some far off land... I have heard,and even feel that Pauls advise to His 'converts' is still valid as ever....and that says to follow him , inas you see that his mannerisms are indeed 'IN LINE' with Christ's example, I think you are liking to 'stir' if you ask me. shame on you. Paul was starting up and guiding new churches. The 2x2's have been at it awhile. 100 years...... You don't put out a fire by throwing gas on it. The 2x2's are ripe with delusions of their importance Yes they are self important, important to themselves. God is giving them a chance to repent for the claims they have made before the world about who they are. So arrogant and yet so fruitless? Clinging to their pride and vanity. Running from the Truth, hiding in the dark. Using fear to trap their pray and paralize them in the name of who? Not the God of the Bible, They sit on the outside of the door, afraid to go in. Afraid of God, and afraid of the Truth. Just like those two children who disobeyed God in the Garden of Eden. If you don't stay with us you will die they declare. You need us, they squeal. But really its they who need you. I would love to go to the mtgs that you attend, then I could understand what you are saying.....I have NEVER heard a worker talk like you said,, please tell me which ones you have heard say such things, please... False accusations are only discrediting your honesty,
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Post by Simple on Mar 27, 2006 19:08:51 GMT -5
Paul was starting up and guiding new churches. The 2x2's have been at it awhile. 100 years...... You don't put out a fire by throwing gas on it. The 2x2's are ripe with delusions of their importance Yes they are self important, important to themselves. God is giving them a chance to repent for the claims they have made before the world about who they are. So arrogant and yet so fruitless? Clinging to their pride and vanity. Running from the Truth, hiding in the dark. Using fear to trap their pray and paralize them in the name of who? Not the God of the Bible, They sit on the outside of the door, afraid to go in. Afraid of God, and afraid of the Truth. Just like those two children who disobeyed God in the Garden of Eden. If you don't stay with us you will die they declare. You need us, they squeal. But really its they who need you. I would love to go to the mtgs that you attend, then I could understand what you are saying.....I have NEVER heard a worker talk like you said,, please tell me which ones you have heard say such things, please... False accusations are only discrediting your honesty, It is spiritual. You cannot know these things, but by God. You are blind until Jesus unblinds you. You are blind until you follow Jesus, like he said. You are the one who has to overcome yourself. Have you overcome yourself? (with help from above?) The workers cannot give you sight The workers cannot save you from yourself The Holy Ghost doesn't come over us to play tiddly winks Our Father in Heaven can be very sobering, and also very patient and merciful. How can our Father in heaven be so gentle and powerful at the same time? The Holy Ghost is a little more of an "intense" feeling than we have known. Just like Jesus before us, God makes it clear who butters our bread as we follow his Son and share in his suffering and his glory. He has done this a few times before. Others still see people as buttering their bread, cause they don't know any better. Pretending you are something you are not is foolish. The flesh really has no choice though does it. It just goes along. The workers cannot teach this cause they have not done it. They are afraid and they want you to stay with them. They don't have Jesus so they need you.
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Post by hmmmm on Mar 27, 2006 19:16:00 GMT -5
stirring......
and mocking , but I suppose it makes you look good so you swallow the false doctrines of other churches and despise the simple bible doctrines...and the mtg. in the home.? Did you know that chuirch buildings are not godly... do you have anyone that you are in agreement, or are you a solo believer???
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Post by Me on Mar 27, 2006 20:01:22 GMT -5
stirring...... and mocking , but I suppose it makes you look good so you swallow the false doctrines of other churches and despise the simple bible doctrines...and the mtg. in the home.? Did you know that chuirch buildings are not godly... do you have anyone that you are in agreement, or are you a solo believer??? i would have to say that he is simply solo
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Post by Simple on Mar 27, 2006 20:09:52 GMT -5
stirring...... and mocking , but I suppose it makes you look good so you swallow the false doctrines of other churches and despise the simple bible doctrines...and the mtg. in the home.? Did you know that chuirch buildings are not godly... do you have anyone that you are in agreement, or are you a solo believer??? I listen to Charles Stanley almost every Sunday morning. It is good healthy(objective and humble) Christian food. Right from the Bible you and your friends possess, but know not of. Alot of us Christians understand your plight. God is the only one who can help you though. When you decide to put him first maybe he will hear you?
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Post by another pharisie on Mar 27, 2006 21:23:47 GMT -5
stirring...... and mocking , but I suppose it makes you look good so you swallow the false doctrines of other churches and despise the simple bible doctrines...and the mtg. in the home.? Did you know that chuirch buildings are not godly... do you have anyone that you are in agreement, or are you a solo believer??? I listen to Charles Stanley almost every Sunday morning. It is good healthy(objective and humble) Christian food. Right from the Bible you and your friends possess, but know not of. Alot of us Christians understand your plight. God is the only one who can help you though. When you decide to put him first maybe he will hear you? You sound like a pharisie ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Post by Simple on Mar 27, 2006 21:52:28 GMT -5
I listen to Charles Stanley almost every Sunday morning. It is good healthy(objective and humble) Christian food. Right from the Bible you and your friends possess, but know not of. Alot of us Christians understand your plight. God is the only one who can help you though. When you decide to put him first maybe he will hear you? You sound like a pharisie ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Hows that? I see a bunch of people in a ditch and try to help them. What is wrong with that? Aside from the fact they insist on staying in their ditch? How come you 2x2's do not go out and fight for us the way we fight for you? Scared of a little rejection? Jesus sure wasn't
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Post by lover on Mar 27, 2006 21:56:07 GMT -5
You sound like a pharisie ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Hows that? I see a bunch of people in a ditch and try to help them. What is wrong with that? Aside from the fact they insist on staying in their ditch? How come you 2x2's do not go out and fight for us the way we fight for you? Scared of a little rejection? Jesus sure wasn't i is a lover not a fighter... you is my rejector, i turn my cheek and you wham it again.....seee
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Post by if on Mar 27, 2006 21:59:55 GMT -5
stirring...... and mocking , but I suppose it makes you look good so you swallow the false doctrines of other churches and despise the simple bible doctrines...and the mtg. in the home.? Did you know that chuirch buildings are not godly... do you have anyone that you are in agreement, or are you a solo believer??? I listen to Charles Stanley almost every Sunday morning. It is good healthy(objective and humble) Christian food. Right from the Bible you and your friends possess, but know not of. Alot of us Christians understand your plight. God is the only one who can help you though. When you decide to put him first maybe he will hear you? if you are getting of on Charles Stanley you should go and shoot yourself
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Post by Simple on Mar 27, 2006 22:02:54 GMT -5
Hows that? I see a bunch of people in a ditch and try to help them. What is wrong with that? Aside from the fact they insist on staying in their ditch? How come you 2x2's do not go out and fight for us the way we fight for you? Scared of a little rejection? Jesus sure wasn't i is a lover not a fighter... you is my rejector, i turn my cheek and you wham it again.....seee Oaah, Your turnin me all soft and mushy inside Here have some of these................................. ;D Does that help?
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