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Post by Dunlap on Mar 25, 2006 7:26:52 GMT -5
Workers claim necklaces are vain and "of the world!" Yet these workers have no problems with neck ties. Aren't ties vain? Showing off that you have power and place. Seems like women are supposed to be plain and old fashioned, for some reason.
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Post by guestS on Mar 25, 2006 8:27:13 GMT -5
They are supposed to look like that so that the rest of the world will see them and want to be just like them...you know, be the "example." Guess it ain't working!
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Post by ties on Mar 25, 2006 10:09:28 GMT -5
Ties and a shave. What does that symbolize to you? Power and Place?
To me, it symbolizes a neutered male who is willing to be jerked around.
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Post by jewelry on Mar 25, 2006 10:13:29 GMT -5
What constitutes jewelry in the F&Ws changes from one location to the next, and from one generation to the next.
My sister is a Superior Saint. Some of the items she wears would have gotten my mother a severe chastizement. (And did.)
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Post by withopeneyes (Mandy) on Mar 25, 2006 15:18:27 GMT -5
Ties and a shave? Many guys here don't wear ties a lot, or have clean shaven faces. I know quite a few (including many in my own family) who don't subscribe to that.
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Post by naturally beauty on Mar 25, 2006 16:17:22 GMT -5
I grew up with the understanding that all necklaces, earrings and rings (with the exception of plain wedding rings) were worldly. Interestingly enough, when I finally left the 2x2's, I realized that I was being consumed with the vanity of "keeping the professing look" Now that I have liberty to wear jewelry, what I wear has significant meanings and there isn't the remotest sense of vanity of "looking the part" (for whatever lifestyle).
The 2x2's come from the viewpoint that if one feels good about oneself, it must be wrong and therefore something to fight against.
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Post by responsibilty on Mar 25, 2006 20:51:55 GMT -5
I agree with Openeyes. In my part of the world a fair number of the younger professing men wear beards, goatees, or mustaches. The responibility for the "stereotypical professing look" lies upon the women-folk.
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Post by Feel good on Mar 25, 2006 21:22:26 GMT -5
[quote The 2x2's come from the viewpoint that if one feels good about oneself, it must be wrong and therefore something to fight against.[/quote]
Excellent point - couldn't have said it better!! Moreover feeling guilty about feeling good is another 2x2 tenet.
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Post by guestS on Mar 25, 2006 21:43:22 GMT -5
"The responsibility for the "stereotypical professing look" lies upon the women-folk. "
And HOW FAIR is this???
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double standards OK
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Post by double standards OK on Mar 26, 2006 1:55:07 GMT -5
Hey...isn't the bible...both OT & NT full of double standards? Get with the program.
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Post by me too on Mar 26, 2006 2:06:05 GMT -5
Elisha prayed for a double portion of elijah's spirit . Is that a double standard, too???
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Post by withopeneyes (Mandy) on Mar 26, 2006 18:07:58 GMT -5
I believe in looking feminine, yet modest. Personally, I dont care if someone has piercings, wears pants, makeup, or even has pink hair. I care about their soul, their spirit, their attitude.
I myself wear jewelry now and then (not a lot, just a necklace or maybe a special ring in addition to my wedding ring), I wear jeans, I'll wear a tank top now and then, I wear two piece swimsuits, and I wear shorts now and then as well.
I would probably pierce my ears if I knew that I wouldn't hear all the crap from family and whatnot. My husbands family would probably disown me. (Sounds sad, but it's pretty close to the truth.) The stress of listening to them is just not worth the cuteness factor.
But, I really dont have a problem with it.
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Post by davinci on Mar 26, 2006 21:19:45 GMT -5
i have a peirced ear but i did it not to be vain but to liberate myself. isnt dressing up for sunday morning meating or wednsday vain as well? or is it ok for a religion of people who are saved by the 2x2s not god
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Post by just me on Aug 17, 2006 18:50:55 GMT -5
I had a pierced ear once, but that was during college and there was a bet involved Personally I think its really silly to get hung up on something that really doesnt make a hill o' beans of difference in the grand scheme of things. As far as other peircings, other than looking completely rediculous, I couldnt care less, ANYTIME we judge people by how they look, we miss out on a chance to meet a great person. Oh and I wear a goateeish beard with mustache and I only wear a tie maybe 3 times every 5 years
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Post by withopeneyes (Mandy) on Aug 17, 2006 18:56:19 GMT -5
I've always wondered why anyone would want to TIE a noose around their neck!
My brother had pierced ears at one time. You should have felt the grief in my family! (I thought it was cool, but my opinion didn't count!)
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Post by webster on Aug 17, 2006 18:59:11 GMT -5
Davinci:
surely you know that one needs to dress for meeting as if one is greeting the queen of england or president of the u.s. afterall, one is in the presence of royalty!
convention is going on not far from where i live. 'twas a bit chilly this a.m. and i imagine many a young girl is sad to be wearing a sweater over her tight tee shirt.
conventions are an opportunity to strut ones vanity. a 23 year old ex professing man went to convention last year and told me the young girls scared him in their attire and forward nature! he thought he had taken a wrong turn and ended up at a meat market rather than a convention
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Post by just me on Aug 17, 2006 19:03:19 GMT -5
Davinci: surely you know that one needs to dress for meeting as if one is greeting the queen of england or president of the u.s. afterall, one is in the presence of royalty! convention is going on not far from where i live. 'twas a bit chilly this a.m. and i imagine many a young girl is sad to be wearing a sweater over her tight tee shirt. conventions are an opportunity to strut ones vanity. a 23 year old ex professing man went to convention last year and told me the young girls scared him in their attire and forward nature! he thought he had taken a wrong turn and ended up at a meat market rather than a convention hmmmm maybe I should look into crashing a convention, just to get an idea of what all the fuss is about just kidding, mostly
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Post by just me on Aug 17, 2006 19:06:58 GMT -5
I've always wondered why anyone would want to TIE a noose around their neck! My brother had pierced ears at one time. You should have felt the grief in my family! (I thought it was cool, but my opinion didn't count!) Cuz some ya-hoo a billion years ago decided it looked "authoritative" or "professional" or it "conveys strength" Personally I HATE the things and only wear them under protest OR to try and impress someone funny thing tho, the tennis shoes ALWAYS give me away ;D
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Post by seekingtruth on Aug 18, 2006 10:11:27 GMT -5
AND miss the opportunity to think "I am so proud I'm so humble!"
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Post by withopeneyes (Mandy) on Aug 18, 2006 11:27:55 GMT -5
I remember, at conventions, I always felt so.... frumpy. I had nice clothes and nice things- but I always felt out done by the professing trendsetters.
But, then again, I felt that way at school too.
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Post by jewelry on Aug 18, 2006 11:51:49 GMT -5
All the time I was professing I never saw a worker wear a necklace, ring, ear rings, or even a tie tack. When the twin towers were bombed I noticed that many of the local workers began wearing those safety pins with red, white and blue beads on them-made to look like a mini-flag.
What is the definition of jewelry? No necklace/ring/ear ring/tie tack but yet something made of a safety pin and beads is ok?
Another instance of inconsistancy.
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Post by dollface on Aug 18, 2006 11:54:35 GMT -5
I have been told to remove my wedding band by a worker while visiting and traveling in a foreign country, because it was too "worldly".
Of course it was. It was a plain gold band.
Did I do it? No.
Have I remembered this absurdity for 30 years? Yes.
Reminders of being in a crazy religion for way too long.
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Post by withopeneyes (Mandy) on Aug 18, 2006 13:35:17 GMT -5
Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat? That's absurd!!!
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Post by bare on Aug 18, 2006 18:49:24 GMT -5
Davinci: surely you know that one needs to dress for meeting as if one is greeting the queen of england or president of the u.s. afterall, one is in the presence of royalty! convention is going on not far from where i live. 'twas a bit chilly this a.m. and i imagine many a young girl is sad to be wearing a sweater over her tight tee shirt. conventions are an opportunity to strut ones vanity. a 23 year old ex professing man went to convention last year and told me the young girls scared him in their attire and forward nature! he thought he had taken a wrong turn and ended up at a meat market rather than a convention What is interesting is that the young ladies wouldn't dare wear a necklace so they actually look more bare than the people who do. Have you noticed now many of the professing brides wear the bodice only, nothing above the "boooooozum. " It is all so difficult to figure out why they can expose so much flesh, but heaven forbid if they wore jewelry.
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Post by withopeneyes (Mandy) on Aug 20, 2006 15:31:48 GMT -5
I had a strapless wedding gown... and a few professing people gasped when they saw my dress.
But, the way I saw it- it was OUR wedding (mine and my husbands, not mine and THEIRS). I planned on it to be a ONCE in a lifetime event... I wasn't going to get to do this again, so I went with the gown I wanted. It was a very modest dress, despite the fact that my shoulders were bare.
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