Nathan to Paul Abenroth

[mrleo unplugged]

And the Jews' accusation of blasphemy was inspired by his claiming to be God, or equivalent to God, right? Because he claimed to be Yahweh, which to them meant "God"? So, again, how is it that the name Yahweh only belonged to Jesus and not God, if using that name--to the Jews--was the equivalent of calling himself God?

[nathan7]

mrleo said:

And the Jews' accusation of blasphemy was inspired by his claiming to be God, or equivalent to God, right? Because he claimed to be Yahweh, which to them meant "God"? So, again, how is it that the name Yahweh only belonged to Jesus and not God, if using that name--to the Jews--was the equivalent of calling himself God?

Jesus claimed to be "Yahweh" God= Divine Being.

In the New Testament Jesus showed us He is God and his name is "Yahweh". Jesus revealed to his disciples/apostles that His heavenly Father is also God/Divine being like himself, making himself on the same level as the Father.

Jesus addressed His heavenly Father's name as God "NOT" Yahweh/LORD because Yahweh/LORD is Jesus' Personal name in the Old Testament.

The Jews did not understand "Yahweh" God of the Old Testament and Jesus of the New Testament are the same Person.

For example:
My father and I have the same last name: just say "Johnson" but his first or personal name was Albert and mine personal name is Nathan.

Do you like people to address you by calling out your father first name when they meet you instead of your first name?

Mr. Leo... Do you know anywhere in the New Testament where Jesus has addressed or called His heavenly Father as the LORD=Yahweh as His personal name?

[God has no name]

God has no name...so man feels the need to name Him. Jehovah, Allah, Brahma....it is all the same.

[a believer]

God has a name. His name is God, and Jehovah and the many names that are used in the Bible.

[a believer]

NAthan, in Arab cultures they address a man by using his sons name and also in Dutch culture I think too. Many cultures do that.

The arabs would address your father as abu Nathan... meaning father of Nathan. They use the oldest sons name so if you are the oldest son then they would use your name or if your brother was older they would use your brothers name.

In Dutch they say van.,.... van means son of/ or father of....I donot know which? So you saying that we do not address the son by using the father's name or vice versa is not correct in many cultures.

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[a believer]

I have never heard Jesus called Jehovah. The word Jehovah is not used in the New Testament which is all about Jesus. Surely if Jehovah refered to Jesus it would appear in the New Testament.

[mans convenience]

Man is arrogant in his insistance in naming God by any specific name. Nothing wrong with this...merely not of value.... beyond man's convenience.

[mrleo unplugged]

Nathan, it really doesn't matter to me how Jesus addressed his heavenly father. I'm simply trying to understand why you are differentiating the names so carefully, and I don't mean to criticize or discourage you from doing so. But in answer to your last question, "Do I know anywhere in the New Testament, etc..." This is the beginning of an argument from silence, Nathan. How many times has that concept come up on this board? If there is no record of him using that name in the New Testament, that is not proof that he never used it. That doesn't mean your theory is wrong, it's just not a good way to support it.

[Gary Kilsyth]

Mc or Mac in Scottish as in McAndrew or MacDonald means "son of" i.e. "Son of Andrew" or "Son of Donald." In Irish I think O' and "Fitz" have similar meanings.

In Arapaho "aaiahiya" means "Son of the wind !"

[what name]

What name for God does an Arabic speaking person use? Would he still call God, Allah?