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Post by ABCDEFGH on Aug 23, 2007 14:17:22 GMT -5
This quote is almost a year old. I typed it from a taped conversation I had with a worker when I was struggling with what to believe. Sorry it's such a mess. I thought it was interesting so here you go.
Mmmm.... yeah.... I've heard of this.... TMB website. Yeah.... It's a hoax.... I mean it's real, but it's not what it appears to be. You see, some of our friends.... years ago.... well.... they fell away and formed a.... a kind of group. Their leader is.... was.... well he's dead now.... that Irvine fellow you mentioned. Anyway, these folks are kind of hateful and.... really bitter. They want to.... are trying to.... destroy our fellowship. So they do a lot of stuff on the internet to try and hinder us. They say things like their leader.... Irvine.... started Truth, which is crazy.... he was a worker but he quit and fell away. Make up scandals about the workers.... and some of the friends.... and accuse us of.... some things. And of course they challenge our doctrine with a bunch of false doctrine.... stuff they don't even agree on amongst themselves. The internet.... The TMB website gives these.... people.... a kind of gathering place. It's a kind of.... den-of-wolves.... in sheep's clothing. Then there are.... Hmmph.... There are even people there who pretend to be some of us and try to speak for us.... to give us a bad name.... they pick fights, argue, call people names, and lie about our doctrine... all to make us look bad. But you know what they say about appearances. These people are not the friends. They don't know Truth. They hate it. Hmmm.... I'm not going to tell you what to do. There's a lot of ways we can spend our time. We just gotta be careful we don't waste it. If I were you I'd read my bible.... and pray about it.... and see what's God's will.... and I wouldn't go walking into no lion's den.
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Post by Sounds like on Aug 23, 2007 17:31:22 GMT -5
This quote is almost a year old. I typed it from a taped conversation I had with a worker when I was struggling with what to believe. Sorry it's such a mess. I thought it was interesting so here you go. Mmmm.... yeah.... I've heard of this.... TMB website. Yeah.... It's a hoax.... I mean it's real, but it's not what it appears to be. You see, some of our friends.... years ago.... well.... they fell away and formed a.... a kind of group. Their leader is.... was.... well he's dead now.... that Irvine fellow you mentioned. Anyway, these folks are kind of hateful and.... really bitter. They want to.... are trying to.... destroy our fellowship. So they do a lot of stuff on the internet to try and hinder us. They say things like their leader.... Irvine.... started Truth, which is crazy.... he was a worker but he quit and fell away. Make up scandals about the workers.... and some of the friends.... and accuse us of.... some things. And of course they challenge our doctrine with a bunch of false doctrine.... stuff they don't even agree on amongst themselves. The internet.... The TMB website gives these.... people.... a kind of gathering place. It's a kind of.... den-of-wolves.... in sheep's clothing. Then there are.... Hmmph.... There are even people there who pretend to be some of us and try to speak for us.... to give us a bad name.... they pick fights, argue, call people names, and lie about our doctrine... all to make us look bad. But you know what they say about appearances. These people are not the friends. They don't know Truth. They hate it. Hmmm.... I'm not going to tell you what to do. There's a lot of ways we can spend our time. We just gotta be careful we don't waste it. If I were you I'd read my bible.... and pray about it.... and see what's God's will.... and I wouldn't go walking into no lion's den.He sounds like a worker(faithless coward)
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Post by so it seems on Aug 24, 2007 14:04:30 GMT -5
Then there are.... Hmmph.... There are even people there who pretend to be some of us and try to speak for us.... to give us a bad name.... they pick fights, argue, call people names, and lie about our doctrine... all to make us look bad. But you know what they say about appearances. These people are not the friends. They don't know Truth. They hate it. seems the workers do know about bert n9 and co
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savedbyblood
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Eventually we'll figure it all out!
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Post by savedbyblood on Aug 26, 2007 2:03:34 GMT -5
Noah built an Ark on dry ground far from the sea only to be ridiculed and disbelieved by man but by Faith he and his family were saved from the flood on the face of the earth.
Moses led the Children of Israel in the desert for 40 years and though they backslid, complained and took false Gods to worship, by Faith moses asked God for food and water and they were satisfied and their clothed never wore our and their shoes never wore out.
Shadrach, Meshach, and Abed-nego might have been thrown into the furnace but they went without complaint or fear and were saved by Faith.
Daniel refused to sign the King's decree and was cast into the den of lions and was saved by Faith.
Jesus Christ went willingly, led by the Spirit into the wilderness to fast for 40 days and be tempted by Satan and His Faith saved Him.
"...and I wouldn't go walking into no lion's den."
Words from a Worker. A man of God who almost certainly sees himself as one who sits in judgment of the Saints on the Earth. afraid to exhibit the Faith of the Prophets of old in order to prove his love for the lord.
I have read stories of Saints from old times during the many persecutions of Christians go willingly to the top of the pyre to be burned st the stake!
I pray I can have as much devotion to our Lord and God Jesus Christ and our Eternal God in His Father in Heaven
Peace in Him,
SBB
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Post by featherlesshawk on Aug 27, 2007 20:04:24 GMT -5
So what has happened in the last fifty years to someone who had faith? What miraculous wonders will someone present to prove faith has awarded someone? Forget about relating the lies told from platforms about children who had no faith and were killed in car wrecks on the way to the bar when they should have been driving to gospel mtg or some such place. Tell me a real one. Did Donald Trump have faith or is he a satan worshipper? Or does it rain on the just and the unjust? Why not credit faith?
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Post by DorkBird on Aug 27, 2007 20:36:10 GMT -5
So what has happened in the last fifty years to someone who had faith? What miraculous wonders will someone present to prove faith has awarded someone? Forget about relating the lies told from platforms about children who had no faith and were killed in car wrecks on the way to the bar when they should have been driving to gospel mtg or some such place. Tell me a real one. Did Donald Trump have faith or is he a satan worshipper? Or does it rain on the just and the unjust? Why not credit faith? Sorry, you have to go on this journey alone, but with Jesus. Those who look for sign are already lost. Ask God for signs. Don't ask people for signs. Quite trying to get your answers from man. The answers are spiritual. You must become spiritual. The part of you that is flesh must be quiet to hear. Be desperate for God's Truth and you will not be disappointed. Let your wants disolve. Your hunger Your lust Your fear Your pride Your vanity Your dreams Find what is real God does not fear your death Do you fear your death?
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Post by hawk on Aug 27, 2007 20:42:51 GMT -5
Why are you avoiding the question? And why do you contradict yourself? "Those who look for sign are already lost. Ask God for signs." I thought someone in the bible said that there are no signs. So why would I ask God for signs? But I'm not asking for signs . . . I'm asking for current proven faith stories. Are you saying faith is equal to signs?
God isn't telling me about so and so having faith and how many miracles have happened because of that. So why don't you tell me?
I have no need to fear death. I instructed God that I will be living a healthy age of 145.
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Post by Dorkbird on Aug 27, 2007 20:47:55 GMT -5
Why are you avoiding the question? And why do you contradict yourself? "Those who look for sign are already lost. Ask God for signs." I thought someone in the bible said that there are no signs. So why would I ask God for signs? But I'm not asking for signs . . . I'm asking for current proven faith stories. Are you saying faith is equal to signs? God isn't telling me about so and so having faith and how many miracles have happened because of that. So why don't you tell me? I have no need to fear death. I instructed God that I will be living a healthy age of 145. You can lead a horse to water..... Have a communication with the God of creation is often his response to our concerns. Go pick on someone your owm size. (Like an ant ! )
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Post by Gabriel on Aug 27, 2007 20:49:54 GMT -5
This is good advice!
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Post by hawk on Aug 27, 2007 20:52:34 GMT -5
I guess dorkbird doesn't appreciate the challenge.
Gabriel, that doesn't work.
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Post by hawk on Aug 27, 2007 20:56:10 GMT -5
I really don't understand dorkbird's response or attitude. I am simply asking a question with no ulterior agenda and cannot get an answer. Typical.
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Post by Dorkbird on Aug 27, 2007 20:57:11 GMT -5
I guess dorkbird doesn't appreciate the challenge. Gabriel, that doesn't work. You are both caviler and stubborn Are you the offspring of a handsome donkey? Quit looking at others and look within.
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Post by hawk on Aug 27, 2007 21:02:52 GMT -5
Why won't you answer my question? I'll help . . . .
Just the other day I talked to my grandma and she told me about her faith. She . . . .
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Yesterday I read about two young kids in the innercity who had such great faith that . . . . . . .
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This morning my friend's wife was in the hospital with two broken legs and is now walking down main street without crutches because she asked for God's help . . . . . . .
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Post by Wondering on Aug 28, 2007 11:28:31 GMT -5
Why are you avoiding the question? And why do you contradict yourself? "Those who look for sign are already lost. Ask God for signs." I thought someone in the bible said that there are no signs. So why would I ask God for signs? But I'm not asking for signs . . . I'm asking for current proven faith stories. Are you saying faith is equal to signs? God isn't telling me about so and so having faith and how many miracles have happened because of that. So why don't you tell me? I love Woody Allen's comment on signs: "If God would only speak to me. If he would just cough".
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