matia
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Post by matia on Aug 12, 2007 17:57:29 GMT -5
Hi /There was a posting and a query on who carries the Cross / After some research this is what I found/ very interesting
SIMON OF CYRENE WAS COERCED INTO BEARING JESUS’ CROSS. “A certain man from Cyrene , Simon, the father of Alexander and Rufus, was passing by on his way in from the country, and they forced him to carry the cross” (v.21). Who was this man? Simon was an African. Cyrene is one of the most prominent cities in what today is Colonel Gaddafi’s Libya . Cyrene was a centre in north Africa where the Jewish faith had been established for centuries. There it had established its synagogues and schools and evangelism. Its businessmen and traders were familiar figures in the Mediterranean basin and many Cyrenians visited Jerusalem . So Simon might have been an African Jew who had come to Jerusalem to celebrate the Passover. Some have suggested that he was an older man who had come to retire in the promised land in sight of the temple, but we think it unlikely that a Roman soldier would have chosen an old man – or a woman or child - to carry the cross to Golgotha . Perhaps he was an out and out pagan who had turned up quite unwittingly in Jerusalem to discover that the city was packed with men and women at a feast called the ‘Passover’ and then, bewildered by the hundreds of thousands of people there, he also came across this grim procession of three condemned men going to their deaths. The Bible is most interesting
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Post by havingalittlefun on Aug 13, 2007 12:39:27 GMT -5
Who is Jesus's Cross? Is He A Superstar
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Post by HelenGreene on Aug 14, 2007 10:12:18 GMT -5
Jesus carried His own cross.
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Post by JolieneJoliene on Aug 14, 2007 10:14:08 GMT -5
Who carried Jesus' cross? Matthew 27:32 As they were going out, they met a man from Cyrene, named Simon, and they forced him to carry the cross.
Mark 15:21
A certain man from Cyrene, Simon, the father of Alexander and Rufus, was passing by on his way in from the country, and they forced him to carry the cross.
Luke 23:26
As they led him away, they seized Simon from Cyrene, who was on his way in from the country, and put the cross on him and made him carry it behind Jesus.
John 19:17
So the soldiers took charge of Jesus. Carrying his own cross, he went out to the place of the Skull (which in Aramaic is called Golgotha).
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Post by matia on Aug 14, 2007 20:31:54 GMT -5
It amuses me when some people point blank say the opposite to what is written in the Bible Thanks you Joliene for your reply , Tis a most intersting subject
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Just another error Jessi
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Post by Just another error Jessi on Aug 14, 2007 21:39:00 GMT -5
Who carried Jesus' cross? Matthew 27:32 As they were going out, they met a man from Cyrene, named Simon, and they forced him to carry the cross. Mark 15:21 A certain man from Cyrene, Simon, the father of Alexander and Rufus, was passing by on his way in from the country, and they forced him to carry the cross. Luke 23:26 As they led him away, they seized Simon from Cyrene, who was on his way in from the country, and put the cross on him and made him carry it behind Jesus. John 19:17 So the soldiers took charge of Jesus. Carrying his own cross, he went out to the place of the Skull (which in Aramaic is called Golgotha). Well they all can't be correct yet there are people like Jessi who will twist and churn the text in a vain attempt to point out that these texts do not disagree but all say that Jesus did (not) carry his own cross. I may not be divinely inspired but it is difficult to see how all of these can be correct. Perhaps the bible is not inerrant after all.
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Just another error Jessi
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Post by Just another error Jessi on Aug 14, 2007 21:40:41 GMT -5
Who carried Jesus' cross? Matthew 27:32 As they were going out, they met a man from Cyrene, named Simon, and they forced him to carry the cross. Mark 15:21 A certain man from Cyrene, Simon, the father of Alexander and Rufus, was passing by on his way in from the country, and they forced him to carry the cross. Luke 23:26 As they led him away, they seized Simon from Cyrene, who was on his way in from the country, and put the cross on him and made him carry it behind Jesus. John 19:17 So the soldiers took charge of Jesus. Carrying his own cross, he went out to the place of the Skull (which in Aramaic is called Golgotha). Well they all can't be correct yet there are people like Jessi who will twist and churn the text in a vain attempt to point out that these texts do not disagree but all say that Jesus did (not) carry his own cross. I may not be divinely inspired but it is difficult to see how all of these can be correct. Perhaps the bible is not inerrant after all.
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Post by ithascome on Aug 14, 2007 22:07:52 GMT -5
If you had a car accident and 5 people saw it... they most likely would not all tell the exact same details. This does not mean what they saw is not correct.
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Post by Witnesses on Aug 16, 2007 18:47:36 GMT -5
If you had a car accident and 5 people saw it... they most likely would not all tell the exact same details. This does not mean what they saw is not correct. Exactly. The details are different. Possibilities. Jesus carried his own cross. He had help The cross was in place and he just walked. He didn't exist. He did exist but was in Jordan for the weekend and it was a case of mistaken identity. If 3 people said there were 2 people in the car and 2 said there were 4 people in the car, one of the groups would be in error. If one verse said Jesus carried the cross himself and another said he had help, as minor a point as it might be, one is in error. Inerrant means without error.
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