mapi
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Post by mapi on May 4, 2024 11:30:22 GMT -5
Everyone has left for Facebook group
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Post by junior on May 4, 2024 13:45:06 GMT -5
Which Facebook group ?
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Post by Mary on May 4, 2024 14:49:08 GMT -5
There are several face book groups. The most popular is called the Ex 2x2 support group. It has 4,000 members and a well run group.
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Post by BobWilliston on May 4, 2024 18:01:24 GMT -5
There are several face book groups. The most popular is called the Ex 2x2 support group. It has 4,000 members and a well run group. Except if you disagree with a mod.
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Post by Pragmatic on May 4, 2024 22:10:16 GMT -5
It does seem to be quieter now, but I put the blame, to a certain extent on a few TMB members who have frightened good people away with their fundamentalist and fanciful ideologies.
The moderators are probably between a rock and a hard place. if everyone just simply agreed, the site would get about half the hits, and less revenue. I guess they are TMB equivalent to the Media's Sean Plunket here in NZ, Alan Jones in Australia, Tucker Carlson, Glenn Beck and Alex Jones in the USA.
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Post by blacksheep on May 5, 2024 8:37:22 GMT -5
Ex-2x2 Support Group (you need the 'dash' to do the search)https://www.facebook.com/groups/ex2x2 link
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Post by chuck on May 6, 2024 5:31:07 GMT -5
There are several face book groups. The most popular is called the Ex 2x2 support group. It has 4,000 members and a well run group. Except if you disagree with a mod. Haha I noticed that, same pig just different lipstick..... One particular incident recently looked very much like 2x2ism all over again.
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Peony
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Post by Peony on May 6, 2024 15:19:35 GMT -5
Some of us refuse to be on Facebook! (No insult meant)
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Post by blacksheep on May 14, 2024 8:44:35 GMT -5
There is enough blame for "destroying this site" to go around. I used to be a regular here several years ago, but now days I just check in occasionally to see if anything has changed. But no, the same old interactions persist. For almost every topic, a certain ex-worker baits, and there are enough participants that are more than willing to respond, thus derailing the whole thread. Nothing is accomplished; the ex-worker will never change his mind regardless of anything offered, so why reply? Often, an entire thread is plastered from top to bottom with said ex-worker's "cut and pastes". Therefore, those who always feel the need to engage when baited, share the blame for causing members here to look elsewhere. You helped said ex-worker to accomplish his goal.
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on May 14, 2024 14:51:04 GMT -5
Except if you disagree with a mod. Haha I noticed that, same pig just different lipstick..... One particular incident recently looked very much like 2x2ism all over again. It sure did. Next up will be burning at the stake.
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Post by Pragmatic on May 14, 2024 15:44:51 GMT -5
I agree, that it is not easy to foment a good discussion and have it build up constructively.
However, I feel that TMB is still relevant and does provide a wider focus than the FB groups.
One of the things not obvious, is the connections that are made to workers in far flung places who are trying to do their best against all odds, and the private messaging has been very useful. Similarly, TMB has enabled many connections that otherwise would not have happened, and in some cases these have been of great help to victims, or provide positive reinforcement to the thinking of some.
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Post by BobWilliston on May 14, 2024 19:35:06 GMT -5
There is enough blame for "destroying this site" to go around. I used to be a regular here several years ago, but now days I just check in occasionally to see if anything has changed. But no, the same old interactions persist. For almost every topic, a certain ex-worker baits, and there are enough participants that are more than willing to respond, thus derailing the whole thread. Nothing is accomplished; the ex-worker will never change his mind regardless of anything offered, so why reply? Often, an entire thread is plastered from top to bottom with said ex-worker's "cut and pastes". Therefore, those who always feel the need to engage when baited, share the blame for causing members here to look elsewhere. You helped said ex-worker to accomplish his goal. This is all true -- if you were dealing with normal people. I've tried that with him, but with this guy, it doesn't matter whether we respond or not. He will use anything anyone says to dominate a thread because he views this forum as his captive audience. He cares zip about decorum.
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nathan2
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Nathan again
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Post by nathan2 on May 14, 2024 22:14:37 GMT -5
There is enough blame for "destroying this site" to go around. I used to be a regular here several years ago, but now days I just check in occasionally to see if anything has changed. But no, the same old interactions persist. For almost every topic, a certain ex-worker baits, and there are enough participants that are more than willing to respond, thus derailing the whole thread. Nothing is accomplished; the ex-worker will never change his mind regardless of anything offered, so why reply? Often, an entire thread is plastered from top to bottom with said ex-worker's "cut and pastes". Therefore, those who always feel the need to engage when baited, share the blame for causing members here to look elsewhere. You helped said ex-worker to accomplish his goal. This is all true -- if you were dealing with normal people. I've tried that with him, but with this guy, it doesn't matter whether we respond or not. He will use anything anyone says to dominate a thread because he views this forum as his captive audience. He cares zip about decorum. 🤭🫣
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on May 15, 2024 1:13:10 GMT -5
There is enough blame for "destroying this site" to go around. I used to be a regular here several years ago, but now days I just check in occasionally to see if anything has changed. But no, the same old interactions persist. For almost every topic, a certain ex-worker baits, and there are enough participants that are more than willing to respond, thus derailing the whole thread. Nothing is accomplished; the ex-worker will never change his mind regardless of anything offered, so why reply? Often, an entire thread is plastered from top to bottom with said ex-worker's "cut and pastes". Therefore, those who always feel the need to engage when baited, share the blame for causing members here to look elsewhere. You helped said ex-worker to accomplish his goal. I am wondering what you would like to see accomplished?
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Post by blacksheep on May 15, 2024 14:56:20 GMT -5
I am basically just a spectator here these days, but I thought that by sharing my observations some might engage in a little introspection before rising to the bait with a knee-jerk response to someone who is setting out to derail a meaningful exchange. Whether this is accomplished or not is not of great concern to me. People will discover other sites if they feel that this one has become stagnant. Life goes on.
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Post by Admin on May 15, 2024 18:34:00 GMT -5
I am basically just a spectator here these days, but I thought that by sharing my observations some might engage in a little introspection before rising to the bait with a knee-jerk response to someone who is setting out to derail a meaningful exchange. Whether this is accomplished or not is not of great concern to me. People will discover other sites if they feel that this one has become stagnant. Life goes on. Thanks blacksheep, I've appreciated the comments and introspection that have been posted here. I am asking nathan2 to refrain from posting, ever and on any topic, here on the main board of TMB. That seems most in keeping with the original wishes for freedom of speech (as much as possible) of the founding admin of TMB. Rather than a total banning. Total bans have proved necessary in just a few instances, and have served TMB well. We will do it again, if necessary. Yes TMB is an internet dinosaur these days. But it does serve certain 2x2 cohorts well. For example, some older people who don't wish to use Facebook etc. with all the privacy risks of today's social media. TMB (with its old technology) is accessible to all with any browser on any type of home computer. All who access, read and even post on TMB are assured that their privacy is as secure as is possible with the internet. That's been historically proved. We in the (small) admin team have been just waiting for the best time to shut the old TMB down, "put it out to pasture", so to speak. But then topics of considerable import in the 2x2 world suddenly arise. Like, along comes Dean Bruer! Who knows what else might be just around the corner? Keeping TMB running, often badly, for the current small group of posters (but from all accounts, much larger invisible readership) is a thankless task (usually, not always). The time to close the whole TMB shebang down doesn't seem quite right just now. But then again, I've never been particularly good on "end-time" stuff
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Post by Pragmatic on May 15, 2024 19:11:15 GMT -5
Good stuff Admin. For me it is serving a purpose as lurking posters, sometimes in the work, are using TMB to DM me, and then we correspond. It is helpful to them as they seek to navigate difficult waters, and are sometimes afraid of being booted and stranded.
And, yes, the poster in question has been one of the reasons why they haven't interacted more on here. Maybe that was his motive?
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Post by snow on May 17, 2024 17:15:28 GMT -5
Good stuff Admin. For me it is serving a purpose as lurking posters, sometimes in the work, are using TMB to DM me, and then we correspond. It is helpful to them as they seek to navigate difficult waters, and are sometimes afraid of being booted and stranded. And, yes, the poster in question has been one of the reasons why they haven't interacted more on here. Maybe that was his motive? Even the atheists on here have some value. There are some that have sent me a DM asking about atheism and my journey. They are going through it and needed some support. I don't advocate for people to give up their faith and I let them know that, but I also tell them why I became an atheist and how difficult that road really is. Religious people do not like to think anyone can just lose their faith. They think it's just some defiance or wanting our own way or something. But it's not. When it happens it's terrifying and so I am glad to be there to support people through that. No one would choose to be an atheist in a world of so many religious people, but once you see it, there is no going back to belief.
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