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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2024 13:56:31 GMT -5
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Post by xna on Feb 7, 2024 15:11:01 GMT -5
The EU doesn't like it, but I so nor have problem any interview. I doubt that I will believe much of it, but many other war criminals have been granted interviews by the media. I use "media" with FOX in a very generous way.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2024 16:09:54 GMT -5
The EU doesn't like it, but I so nor have problem any interview. I doubt that I will believe much of it, but many other war criminals have been granted interviews by the media. I use "media" with FOX in a very generous way. Tucker was fired from FOX actually. People decided that they didn't like0 him and swamped FOX with lawsuits so it became pragmatic to fire him. It's a common way for opponents of free speech (once the American right, today the American left leads) to silence views that give their feelings owies. The thing I like about an independent journalist like Tucker interviewing is that it doesn't have to go through the American propaganda machine known as the msm, where consumers are peppered with 30 seconds of spliced out of context sound bites necessary to program them to think "right" (aka "not think at all"). Tucker by contrast is airing the full and unedited interview on his site, in part to protect it from being edited and cherrypicked. (Which no doubt will be treated equally fair and unbiased by our corporate media 😂🤣😅). Tucker explains here -> youtu.be/kzmvvKdts8I?si=FgAA3sqWV8SVcJV , but according to the Kremlin, Tucker gets one thing wrong: other outlets have attempted to interview Putin, but he's declined because they are unfair and biased. www.newsweek.com/kremlin-peskov-tucker-carlson-putin-interview-1867635"When questioned by reporters why Putin had accepted an interview with conservative media figure Carlson, the Kremlin spokesperson said: "He has a position that differs from the rest [of Western media]." "It's not pro-Russian by any means, and it's not pro-Ukrainian; rather, it's pro-American. But at least it stands in clear contrast to the position of the traditional Anglo-Saxon media," Peskov added. However, Peskov said Carlson is "wrong" by suggesting that Western journalists haven't attempted to interview Putin—an assertion the former Fox News host made in a lengthy video announcing his interview with the Russian leader. "He, in fact, cannot know this. We receive many requests for interviews with the president," Peskov said." I doubt I'll believe Putin any more than I'd believe Biden, or any other politician. Nor do I think he'll say anything different than he's been saying for over 10 years now. Maybe he'll surprise everyone by announcing that our clever Western analysis is correct and that he actually does want to take over Poland, Germany and the rest of Europe...but somehow I think not.
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Feb 7, 2024 17:25:34 GMT -5
The EU doesn't like it, but I so nor have problem any interview. I doubt that I will believe much of it, but many other war criminals have been granted interviews by the media. I use "media" with FOX in a very generous way. Tucker was fired from FOX actually. People decided that they didn't like0 him and swamped FOX with lawsuits so it became pragmatic to fire him. It's a common way for opponents of free speech (once the American right, today the American left leads) to silence views that give their feelings owies. The thing I like about an independent journalist like Tucker interviewing is that it doesn't have to go through the American propaganda machine known as the msm, where consumers are peppered with 30 seconds of spliced out of context sound bites necessary to program them to think "right" (aka "not think at all"). Tucker by contrast is airing the full and unedited interview on his site, in part to protect it from being edited and cherrypicked. (Which no doubt will be treated equally fair and unbiased by our corporate media 😂🤣😅). Tucker explains here -> youtu.be/kzmvvKdts8I?si=FgAA3sqWV8SVcJV , but according to the Kremlin, Tucker gets one thing wrong: other outlets have attempted to interview Putin, but he's declined because they are unfair and biased. www.newsweek.com/kremlin-peskov-tucker-carlson-putin-interview-1867635"When questioned by reporters why Putin had accepted an interview with conservative media figure Carlson, the Kremlin spokesperson said: "He has a position that differs from the rest [of Western media]." "It's not pro-Russian by any means, and it's not pro-Ukrainian; rather, it's pro-American. But at least it stands in clear contrast to the position of the traditional Anglo-Saxon media," Peskov added. However, Peskov said Carlson is "wrong" by suggesting that Western journalists haven't attempted to interview Putin—an assertion the former Fox News host made in a lengthy video announcing his interview with the Russian leader. "He, in fact, cannot know this. We receive many requests for interviews with the president," Peskov said." I doubt I'll believe Putin any more than I'd believe Biden, or any other politician. Nor do I think he'll say anything different than he's been saying for over 10 years now. Maybe he'll surprise everyone by announcing that our clever Western analysis is correct and that he actually does want to take over Poland, Germany and the rest of Europe...but somehow I think not. It would be good to also see the full and unedited conversation between Putin and Trump that took place several years ago. To jog your memory Trump was not accompanied by any of his usual entourage of advisors. That is unprecedented, ill advised and dangerous.
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Post by xna on Feb 7, 2024 19:29:40 GMT -5
The EU doesn't like it, but I so nor have problem any interview. I have no idea where this gibberish came from, but I meant to write " I have no problem with any interview"
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2024 23:30:20 GMT -5
Tucker was fired from FOX actually. People decided that they didn't like0 him and swamped FOX with lawsuits so it became pragmatic to fire him. It's a common way for opponents of free speech (once the American right, today the American left leads) to silence views that give their feelings owies. The thing I like about an independent journalist like Tucker interviewing is that it doesn't have to go through the American propaganda machine known as the msm, where consumers are peppered with 30 seconds of spliced out of context sound bites necessary to program them to think "right" (aka "not think at all"). Tucker by contrast is airing the full and unedited interview on his site, in part to protect it from being edited and cherrypicked. (Which no doubt will be treated equally fair and unbiased by our corporate media 😂🤣😅). Tucker explains here -> youtu.be/kzmvvKdts8I?si=FgAA3sqWV8SVcJV , but according to the Kremlin, Tucker gets one thing wrong: other outlets have attempted to interview Putin, but he's declined because they are unfair and biased. www.newsweek.com/kremlin-peskov-tucker-carlson-putin-interview-1867635"When questioned by reporters why Putin had accepted an interview with conservative media figure Carlson, the Kremlin spokesperson said: "He has a position that differs from the rest [of Western media]." "It's not pro-Russian by any means, and it's not pro-Ukrainian; rather, it's pro-American. But at least it stands in clear contrast to the position of the traditional Anglo-Saxon media," Peskov added. However, Peskov said Carlson is "wrong" by suggesting that Western journalists haven't attempted to interview Putin—an assertion the former Fox News host made in a lengthy video announcing his interview with the Russian leader. "He, in fact, cannot know this. We receive many requests for interviews with the president," Peskov said." I doubt I'll believe Putin any more than I'd believe Biden, or any other politician. Nor do I think he'll say anything different than he's been saying for over 10 years now. Maybe he'll surprise everyone by announcing that our clever Western analysis is correct and that he actually does want to take over Poland, Germany and the rest of Europe...but somehow I think not. It would be good to also see the full and unedited conversation between Putin and Trump that took place several years ago. To jog your memory Trump was not accompanied by any of his usual entourage of advisors. That is unprecedented, ill advised and dangerous. I would also like to hear it. What if we were to find a secret quid-pro-quo deal? What if Trump made concessions with Putin to de-escalate the crisis and lower the chances of a nuclear exchange? Surely such a negotiation would prove conclusively that Trump was working for Putin and was a traitor? Especially if the deal was in direct defiance of an agreement passed by NATO? Going behind NATOs back to make a secret deal with the Russians? Sounds like treason worthy of the firing squad. What if Trump did that? theprint.in/world/how-john-f-kennedy-covered-up-a-quid-pro-quo-deal-with-ussr-that-ended-cuban-missile-crisis/1191058/Never mind - it was done in secret (to prevent the exact sort of public lynching of Kennedy that Trump would likewise endure but × 10, and to keep NATO from finding out), and it led to peace. Maybe that's why they had Kennedy killed. Trump better not be too invested in peace of he wants to stay alive.
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Post by xna on Feb 8, 2024 21:12:32 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2024 23:47:10 GMT -5
The interview was interesting. Didn't learn much that people who have payed attention didn't know.
A condition for the peace deal that was nearly completed in March 22 in Turkey was that Russia pull all troops back from Kiev. Russia did. Boris Johnson them flew in and told Zelensky not to sign it. We knew this. Well... not people who watch MSNBC or CNN.
Putin can do a full 2 hour interview and agree before to allow Carlson to post the unedited version.
Biden has to opt out of a 3 minute Superbowl interview because "What kind of chips do you like?" might be too difficult for him.
We're screwed.
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Feb 9, 2024 0:18:58 GMT -5
The interview was interesting. Didn't learn much that people who have payed attention didn't know. A condition for the peace deal that was nearly completed in March 22 in Turkey was that Russia pull all troops back from Kiev. Russia did. Boris Johnson them flew in and told Zelensky not to sign it. We knew this. Well... not people who watch MSNBC or CNN. Putin can do a full 2 hour interview and agree before to allow Carlson to post the unedited version. Biden has to opt out of a 3 minute Superbowl interview because "What kind of chips do you like?" might be too difficult for him. We're screwed. I am not worried about you being screwed. In fact the Ukraine/ Russia conflict has little to do with you. It has everything to do with the wellbeing and security of Ukraine and the rest of Europe. Even if a Trump led USA stops supporting Ukraine you will find that the real western democracies who have a real interest in democracy and freedom will continue to support Ukraine. The USA may well find it self to be consigned to the pariah state bin. But you will be in the good company of other fascist dictators such as Putin and Kim killer Jong. Enjoy your roubles.
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Post by fixit on Feb 9, 2024 0:55:31 GMT -5
The interview was interesting. Didn't learn much that people who have payed attention didn't know. A condition for the peace deal that was nearly completed in March 22 in Turkey was that Russia pull all troops back from Kiev. Russia did. Boris Johnson them flew in and told Zelensky not to sign it. We knew this. Well... not people who watch MSNBC or CNN. Putin can do a full 2 hour interview and agree before to allow Carlson to post the unedited version. Biden has to opt out of a 3 minute Superbowl interview because "What kind of chips do you like?" might be too difficult for him. We're screwed. I am not worried about you being screwed. In fact the Ukraine/ Russia conflict has little to do with you. It has everything to do with the wellbeing and security of Ukraine and the rest of Europe. Even if a Trump led USA stops supporting Ukraine you will find that the real western democracies who have a real interest in democracy and freedom will continue to support Ukraine. The USA may well find it self to be consigned to the pariah state bin. But you will be in the good company of other fascist dictators such as Putin and Kim killer Jong. Enjoy your roubles. Evangelicals tell me that Putin is doing God's work. Does that mean his closest allies are doing God's work as well: North Korea, Belarus, Syria and Iran?
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Feb 9, 2024 1:24:57 GMT -5
I am not worried about you being screwed. In fact the Ukraine/ Russia conflict has little to do with you. It has everything to do with the wellbeing and security of Ukraine and the rest of Europe. Even if a Trump led USA stops supporting Ukraine you will find that the real western democracies who have a real interest in democracy and freedom will continue to support Ukraine. The USA may well find it self to be consigned to the pariah state bin. But you will be in the good company of other fascist dictators such as Putin and Kim killer Jong. Enjoy your roubles. Evangelicals tell me that Putin is doing God's work. Does that mean his closest allies are doing God's work as well: North Korea, Belarus, Syria and Iran? And Nathan and Wally.
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Post by fixit on Feb 9, 2024 2:45:05 GMT -5
Where's Wally?
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Post by matisse on Feb 9, 2024 3:12:32 GMT -5
Some prominent white supremacists see Russia and Putin as a bastion of "whiteness".
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2024 9:17:18 GMT -5
The interview was interesting. Didn't learn much that people who have payed attention didn't know. A condition for the peace deal that was nearly completed in March 22 in Turkey was that Russia pull all troops back from Kiev. Russia did. Boris Johnson them flew in and told Zelensky not to sign it. We knew this. Well... not people who watch MSNBC or CNN. Putin can do a full 2 hour interview and agree before to allow Carlson to post the unedited version. Biden has to opt out of a 3 minute Superbowl interview because "What kind of chips do you like?" might be too difficult for him. We're screwed. I am not worried about you being screwed. In fact the Ukraine/ Russia conflict has little to do with you. It has everything to do with the wellbeing and security of Ukraine and the rest of Europe. Even if a Trump led USA stops supporting Ukraine you will find that the real western democracies who have a real interest in democracy and freedom will continue to support Ukraine. The USA may well find it self to be consigned to the pariah state bin. But you will be in the good company of other fascist dictators such as Putin and Kim killer Jong. Enjoy your roubles. You finally said something true: A war over a piece of land that has been Russia for 99% of Russia history, has been separate from Ukraine and has been being attacked by Ukraine since 2014... has little to do with me. Never mind that our intervention and thwarting of a near peace deal has caused the destruction of Ukraine and its people while strengthening Russia and causing a flip in political, military and economic alliances in a matter of 2 years - none of it favorable for the West. We can't have Trump back. We need wise Biden to help kill off any remaining Ukrainian males. They're starting to eliminate the 40-60 year Olds. Maybe Biden and Zelensky will be happy when they kill off all the 70-80yo age group left? Will it be enough? If they keep it going, the makes that turn fighting age each year will provide a steady stream of targets for the Russians. Then, when all the people are dead, democracy (which I had always thought needed people to work) so be saved and we can give us a big pat on the back at what a bargain it was. The children can cry all they want. We need adults who will use their big kid words and negotiate instead of fighting.
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Post by BobWilliston on Feb 10, 2024 19:24:19 GMT -5
I am not worried about you being screwed. In fact the Ukraine/ Russia conflict has little to do with you. It has everything to do with the wellbeing and security of Ukraine and the rest of Europe. Even if a Trump led USA stops supporting Ukraine you will find that the real western democracies who have a real interest in democracy and freedom will continue to support Ukraine. The USA may well find it self to be consigned to the pariah state bin. But you will be in the good company of other fascist dictators such as Putin and Kim killer Jong. Enjoy your roubles. Evangelicals tell me that Putin is doing God's work. Does that mean his closest allies are doing God's work as well: North Korea, Belarus, Syria and Iran? And maybe the USA soon enough: us.yahoo.com/news/trump-says-might-encourage-russia-231453004.html
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Post by BobWilliston on Feb 10, 2024 19:25:28 GMT -5
Some prominent white supremacists see Russia and Putin as a bastion of "whiteness". Their color of politics/
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2024 0:21:31 GMT -5
Some prominent white supremacists see Russia and Putin as a bastion of "whiteness". Some do. They're scum. However, if you want the Nazi standard, you'll have to travel to the Ukraine. The Russians don't fly the SS flag like Azov. One could say, "true, but most are very similar with shared ethnicity and heritage", but then one would just be proving Putins point from the beginning. In fact, the evidence (as though anyone cares) shows that Russia is far and away more ethnically diverse and tolerant of other religions than Ukraine. It's not even comparable, the difference is so vast. www.indexmundi.com/factbook/compare/ukraine.russia/demographicsUkraine Ethnic Groups: Ukrainian 77.8%, Russian 17.3%, Belarusian 0.6%, Moldovan 0.5%, Crimean Tatar 0.5%, Bulgarian 0.4%, Hungarian 0.3%, Romanian 0.3%, Polish 0.3%, Jewish 0.2%, other 1.8% (2001 est.) Russian Ethnic Groups: Russian 77.7%, Tatar 3.7%, Ukrainian 1.4%, Bashkir 1.1%, Chuvash 1%, Chechen 1%, other 10.2%, unspecified 3.9% (2010 est.) ****note: nearly 200 national and/or ethnic groups are represented in Russia's 2010 census**** Religion? Ukraine "Ukraine's population is overwhelmingly Christian; the vast majority - up to two thirds - identify themselves as Orthodox, but many do not specify a particular branch;" Russia Russian Orthodox 15-20%, Muslim 10-15%, other Christian 2% (2006 est.) (majority are secular or unaffiliated) ---------- So we're left with the amusing contradiction of declaring Putin the white supremacist when Russia had the highest losses of all nations by far to the Nazis in WWII, and has a rich national and ethnic minority population, as well as nearly equal numbers of Christians and Muslims. Ukraine meanwhile is mostly a white Christian country, with the only significant ethnic minority group being Russian people, largely in the regions of land that Russia now occupies (which was from the beginning Putin's stated objective). They also have a disturbing pattern of celebrating literal Nazis, even bringing one with Zelensky to the Canadian parliament for a standing ovation. But they're the good guys. Nearly everything we've been told about this conflict has been an outright lie. And it is the Ukraine that has payed for it. As will we with the shuffling of world alliances, for generations to come.
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