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Post by dmb on Jan 27, 2024 20:22:51 GMT -5
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Post by bendle on Jan 27, 2024 20:32:47 GMT -5
You beat me to it! Well done for posting this.
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Jan 27, 2024 23:54:07 GMT -5
The astonishing thing is that people are still there listening to them preach.
'YOU ARE JUDGED BY THE COMPANY YOU KEEP'
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Post by Pragmatic on Jan 28, 2024 3:04:33 GMT -5
The astonishing thing is that people are still there listening to them preach. 'YOU ARE JUDGED BY THE COMPANY YOU KEEP' I think that might apply in some countries, but in our own they seem to be trying to sort things.
A number of us do not give known enablers or morally questionable workers our attendance time.
I hope this article get picked up by the mainstream NZ media.
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Post by Mary on Jan 28, 2024 11:40:37 GMT -5
The astonishing thing is that people are still there listening to them preach. 'YOU ARE JUDGED BY THE COMPANY YOU KEEP' I think that might apply in some countries, but in our own they seem to be trying to sort things.
A number of us do not give known enablers or morally questionable workers our attendance time. I hope this article get picked up by the mainstream NZ media.
Victim blaming for years in your country too. |
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Jan 28, 2024 12:32:31 GMT -5
The astonishing thing is that people are still there listening to them preach. 'YOU ARE JUDGED BY THE COMPANY YOU KEEP' I think that might apply in some countries, but in our own they seem to be trying to sort things.
A number of us do not give known enablers or morally questionable workers our attendance time.
I hope this article get picked up by the mainstream NZ media.
Unfortunately there are too few of you. Most would prefer to brown nose and vie for seats at the top table. Providing an eager audience is exactly what the workers crave. Deny them that and they lose their power. |
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Post by learner on Jan 28, 2024 15:16:17 GMT -5
I think that might apply in some countries, but in our own they seem to be trying to sort things.
A number of us do not give known enablers or morally questionable workers our attendance time.
I hope this article get picked up by the mainstream NZ media.
Unfortunately there are too few of you. Most would prefer to brown nose and vie for seats at the top table. Providing an eager audience is exactly what the workers crave. Deny them that and they lose their power. Many don’t like change, and want to ignore it all. « But I love my Sunday meeting » This article is huge. I left 7 years ago from the NZ fellowship because I was unhappy with the way G Thompson’s conviction about how CSA should be handled was ignored. I have family still in there and I am praying for them. Have found another church - looked for one that I felt I could align with. |
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Post by ForeverFree on Jan 29, 2024 0:08:11 GMT -5
"When contacted by the BBC, Dale Shultz said via email that "much of the information that you have received concerning me is distorted and inaccurate". However he declined to go into any further detail."
"Much of the information that you have received concerning me..."
Not all of the information is distorted and inaccurate, but much of it. So this means that some of the information is not distorted and inaccurate, which means it's true. He's basically admitting to guilt on some level.
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Post by mod7 on Jan 30, 2024 22:13:49 GMT -5
Off-topic posts have been moved to here. |
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Post by joanna on Jan 30, 2024 23:00:15 GMT -5
mod7. Given you have labelled the posts that question why the Christian God does not protect the victims of child abuse as “off topic”, what advice would you give the child victims who may be reading this thread and be in desperate need of assistance?
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Post by mod7 on Jan 31, 2024 1:46:10 GMT -5
joanna, mod7. Given you have labelled the posts that question why the Christian God does not protect the victims of child abuse as “off topic”, what advice would you give the child victims who may be reading this thread and be in desperate need of assistance? If you're genuine about learning the Christian theology on such issues, read Dan's responses to your queries. Advice to child victim/survivors in need of assistance, contact: Lauren Rohs, Sheri Autrey, Cynthia Liles advocatesforthetruth.com sheri01 on TMB. Thanks 
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Post by joanna on Jan 31, 2024 16:42:11 GMT -5
mod7. Thank you for that recommendation. I did so and realise that Dan believes his god allows satan to commit evil - including the sexual abuse of little children in the 2x2’s and other churches. The story of Job must assist Christians to rationalise the sexual abuse of children.
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Post by BobWilliston on Feb 1, 2024 20:59:39 GMT -5
The astonishing thing is that people are still there listening to them preach. 'YOU ARE JUDGED BY THE COMPANY YOU KEEP' In my home town we had a rogue worker who was behaving badly. Among other things, he set up to have a tent mission on his own in the vicinity of an unprofessing lady friend who never showed up at the meetings. First meeting about 10% of local friends attended, and he asked a man who had never spoken in a meeting to pray after the opening hymn. And the man said, "You'll have to ask someone else." Most of the friends would have nothing to do with the meetings. Finally his companion came to town, and he asked me and another young man to go with him to dismantle the tent. Oh, the interesting times we had with a couple of workers back then. |
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Post by charlesfoxtrot on Feb 5, 2024 4:37:02 GMT -5
" In one letter, Mr Corfield said he was "making a list of victims".
"We don't want to miss anyone who has been a victim of my actions," he wrote.
However, when asked about this by the BBC, Mr Corfield said that there were no other victims "in the same sense that Michael was", and that he had given two or three other teenagers massages."
This man has admitted to the most horrific crimes against a child. He also clearly doesn't understand what constitutes child sexual abuse. He is still being financed and sheltered by Friends in Montana. Pray do tell, what exactly would it take for the 2x2s to separate themselves from evil?
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Post by ForeverFree on Feb 6, 2024 22:48:10 GMT -5
" In one letter, Mr Corfield said he was "making a list of victims". "We don't want to miss anyone who has been a victim of my actions," he wrote. However, when asked about this by the BBC, Mr Corfield said that there were no other victims "in the same sense that Michael was", and that he had given two or three other teenagers massages." This man has admitted to the most horrific crimes against a child. He also clearly doesn't understand what constitutes child sexual abuse. He is still being financed and sheltered by Friends in Montana. Pray do tell, what exactly would it take for the 2x2s to separate themselves from evil? They don't see it as evil. This man is/was a worker. That's what they see. It's almost like a worker could walk into a packed meeting tent/shed at convention and start firing an AK47 at people inside and those that survived would not talk about it because of the loyalty to the ministry. I know that that's extreme, but my point is that many "friends" view the workers as sent by God, therefore they are above the law and any wrongdoing must be not be spoken about, no matter how bad the crime. |
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Post by snow on Feb 7, 2024 16:30:22 GMT -5
" In one letter, Mr Corfield said he was "making a list of victims". "We don't want to miss anyone who has been a victim of my actions," he wrote. However, when asked about this by the BBC, Mr Corfield said that there were no other victims "in the same sense that Michael was", and that he had given two or three other teenagers massages." This man has admitted to the most horrific crimes against a child. He also clearly doesn't understand what constitutes child sexual abuse. He is still being financed and sheltered by Friends in Montana. Pray do tell, what exactly would it take for the 2x2s to separate themselves from evil? They don't see it as evil. This man is/was a worker. That's what they see. It's almost like a worker could walk into a packed meeting tent/shed at convention and start firing an AK47 at people inside and those that survived would not talk about it because of the loyalty to the ministry. I know that that's extreme, but my point is that many "friends" view the workers as sent by God, therefore they are above the law and any wrongdoing must be not be spoken about, no matter how bad the crime. I think it's rather interesting that some of the friends are upset because the exes are stirring it up. I would have to say it is interesting and they think we're the immoral and lost out ones. Anyone that wouldn't be trying to do something to protect the children and bring all the secrecy to people's attention, have to give themselves a long look in the mirror. |
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Post by chuck on Feb 7, 2024 18:57:45 GMT -5
They don't see it as evil. This man is/was a worker. That's what they see. It's almost like a worker could walk into a packed meeting tent/shed at convention and start firing an AK47 at people inside and those that survived would not talk about it because of the loyalty to the ministry. I know that that's extreme, but my point is that many "friends" view the workers as sent by God, therefore they are above the law and any wrongdoing must be not be spoken about, no matter how bad the crime. I think it's rather interesting that some of the friends are upset because the exes are stirring it up. I would have to say it is interesting and they think we're the immoral and lost out ones. Anyone that wouldn't be trying to do something to protect the children and bring all the secrecy to people's attention, have to give themselves a long look in the mirror. Religion numbs the brain. |
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