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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Sept 13, 2024 1:25:20 GMT -5
You do realise that Trump buys votes? Trump is not much of a Christian but he buys the Christian vote for political expediency.
Trump has not promised me anything? No special programs or free money? He supports some Christian values such as limits on late term abortions and such, but its his economic policies that I prefer over Harris's.
Neither candidate is going to balance the budget, they will continue piling on debt until the USD erodes in value like the currencies in Zimbabwe & Argentina. Neither of them know what caused inflation, so neither has the brains to fix the problem.
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Post by BobWilliston on Sept 13, 2024 18:49:21 GMT -5
You do realise that Trump buys votes? Trump is not much of a Christian but he buys the Christian vote for political expediency. Trump has not promised me anything? No special programs or free money? He supports some Christian values such as .....
That's the carrot. Take the bait. All he needs is your vote. Precisely according to Hitler's plan. It works every time. And he also has a final solution that he's quietly promoting to the gullible illiterates. Just like the Germans. And the US really is a good country to use this technique on -- it has the Electoral College, which makes it so that you don't have to have either a majority or a plurality to become the dictator. Trump has never won with a majority vote in his lifetime. Neither did Hitler.
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Sept 13, 2024 19:06:03 GMT -5
Trump has not promised me anything? No special programs or free money? He supports some Christian values such as .....
That's the carrot. Take the bait. All he needs is your vote. Precisely according to Hitler's plan. It works every time. And he also has a final solution that he's quietly promoting to the gullible illiterates. Just like the Germans. And the US really is a good country to use this technique on -- it has the Electoral College, which makes it so that you don't have to have either a majority or a plurality to become the dictator. Trump has never won with a majority vote in his lifetime. Neither did Hitler. There are many similarities between Hitler and Trump including both their followers. I can only think that a certain kind of evil idiot would support either.
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Post by BobWilliston on Sept 13, 2024 19:07:16 GMT -5
Now they're killing the geese in the city park for food. They're all Haitians -- Trump will send them back to Venezuela!
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Post by BobWilliston on Sept 13, 2024 19:16:04 GMT -5
Schools in Springfield, OH are closed because of bomb threats over the pets that are being eaten by the Blacks.
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Sept 13, 2024 19:40:55 GMT -5
Schools in Springfield, OH are closed because of bomb threats over the pets that are being eaten by the Blacks. What about the 76 in Portland that is selling pets to immigrants. Sumthin shoulda be done about it.
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Post by Pragmatic on Sept 13, 2024 20:44:03 GMT -5
In Auckland (close to Botany Downs), there is a Pet Shop, and right next door, an Asian Takeaways food house! Hmmmm
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Post by Dan on Sept 13, 2024 21:45:13 GMT -5
A federal sales tax would be a good thing (as long as states are not allowed sales tax) but it needs to be on everything, not just selected imports.
States already charge sales tax, its 11% where I live... Imo, tax is never a good thing, I've never voted for any politician proposing new taxes.. I would however, be in favor of a national sales tax, but only if it replaced income taxes.
Kamala is going to pay for all the freebees she's promising by raising the capital gains tax from 20 to 39%, and raising the tax on businesses from 21 to 28%. She also wants to tax unrealized capital gains, meaning she wants your money before you've even collected a dime.
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Post by Dan on Sept 13, 2024 22:22:44 GMT -5
Trump has not promised me anything? No special programs or free money? He supports some Christian values such as limits on late term abortions and such, but its his economic policies that I prefer over Harris's.
Neither candidate is going to balance the budget, they will continue piling on debt until the USD erodes in value like the currencies in Zimbabwe & Argentina. Neither of them know what caused inflation, so neither has the brains to fix the problem.
A balanced budget is not necessarily a good thing AT ALL. But that's a macroeconomic matter poorly understood by too many people.
We will spend $1 trillion for interest on debt in 2024, that's not a good thing AT ALL... A balanced budget amendment would be a good thing because it would have prevented +$35 trillion of debt. Out of control spending creating massive debt is never a good thing, there's no sound economical way to spin it. That's like saying its a good thing to max-out a dozen credit cards for Christmas shopping, but when those bills come in January, it ain't good, its bankruptcy.
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Sept 13, 2024 22:27:00 GMT -5
In Auckland (close to Botany Downs), there is a Pet Shop, and right next door, an Asian Takeaways food house! Hmmmm I remember when the first KFC came to where we used to live and the joke was how the seagull population took a dive.
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Post by BobWilliston on Sept 13, 2024 22:39:15 GMT -5
A balanced budget is not necessarily a good thing AT ALL. But that's a macroeconomic matter poorly understood by too many people. We will spend $1 trillion for interest on debt in 2024, that's not a good thing AT ALL... A balanced budget amendment would be a good thing because it would have prevented +$35 trillion of debt. Out of control spending creating massive debt is never a good thing, there's no sound economical way to spin it. That's like saying its a good thing to max-out a dozen credit cards for Christmas shopping, but when those bills come in January, it ain't good, its bankruptcy.
No, it's not the same thing at all. Do you realize that the interest the government pays on the debt pays a WHOLE LOT of salaries in a lot of different jobs -- private jobs, like you once provided? And people don't eat the money when they earn it - - they spend it so that others will get the money and they will be able to spend it and so on and so on. That's how the US economy got to be so vibrant. So you just have to let people who know more about this than you do, or you could possibly be in a heap of trouble if the circulation of money slammed down too suddenly and completely.
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Sept 13, 2024 23:32:32 GMT -5
We will spend $1 trillion for interest on debt in 2024, that's not a good thing AT ALL... A balanced budget amendment would be a good thing because it would have prevented +$35 trillion of debt. Out of control spending creating massive debt is never a good thing, there's no sound economical way to spin it. That's like saying its a good thing to max-out a dozen credit cards for Christmas shopping, but when those bills come in January, it ain't good, its bankruptcy.
No, it's not the same thing at all. Do you realize that the interest the government pays on the debt pays a WHOLE LOT of salaries in a lot of different jobs -- private jobs, like you once provided? And people don't eat the money when they earn it - - they spend it so that others will get the money and they will be able to spend it and so on and so on. That's how the US economy got to be so vibrant. So you just have to let people who know more about this than you do, or you could possibly be in a heap of trouble if the circulation of money slammed down too suddenly and completely. There is a good argument for borrowing money to build public infrastructure as it benefits future generations who will contribute to the cost. The USA spend billions on arms. If that money tap was turned off there would be widespread unemployment in that industry. If you want to save money in the USA, stop subsidizing industry such as the soy farmers. They are one of many milking the socialist cow in the USA. If the USA were to withdraw from NATO they would be given the boot from numerous European and Canadian bases. Where would they go and what would the cost be. Furthermore, the NATO countries would then favour European arms manufacturers so there would be a double foot in mouth by the USA. If Trump was president he of course could station troops on his pal Putin's turf.
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Post by fixit on Sept 13, 2024 23:49:08 GMT -5
A federal sales tax would be a good thing (as long as states are not allowed sales tax) but it needs to be on everything, not just selected imports. States already charge sales tax, its 11% where I live... Imo, tax is never a good thing, I've never voted for any politician proposing new taxes.. I would however, be in favor of a national sales tax, but only if it replaced income taxes.
Kamala is going to pay for all the freebees she's promising by raising the capital gains tax from 20 to 39%, and raising the tax on businesses from 21 to 28%. She also wants to tax unrealized capital gains, meaning she wants your money before you've even collected a dime.
The proposal affects Americans with net worths of $100 million or more. I didn't realise you had that much. From www.forbes.com/sites/dereksaul/2024/09/03/what-is-unrealized-capital-gains-tax-unpacking-kamala-harris-backed-proposal-on-ultra-wealthy/...the affected individuals would pay taxes on assets that appreciated in value through a year, even if they did not sell, bucking the current standard that only charges capital gains taxes on profits tallied from those assets. For example, if the world’s richest man Elon Musk saw his $102 billion stake in Tesla at the end of 2023 rise to $122 billion by year’s end due to an increase in Tesla’s share price, he would pay taxes on the $20 billion increase in the value of his Tesla stock; current tax code requires he would have only had to pay capital gains tax if he actually offloaded his shares in the electric vehicle company.
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Post by BobWilliston on Sept 14, 2024 0:26:29 GMT -5
No, it's not the same thing at all. Do you realize that the interest the government pays on the debt pays a WHOLE LOT of salaries in a lot of different jobs -- private jobs, like you once provided? And people don't eat the money when they earn it - - they spend it so that others will get the money and they will be able to spend it and so on and so on. That's how the US economy got to be so vibrant. So you just have to let people who know more about this than you do, or you could possibly be in a heap of trouble if the circulation of money slammed down too suddenly and completely. There is a good argument for borrowing money to build public infrastructure as it benefits future generations who will contribute to the cost. The USA spend billions on arms. If that money tap was turned off there would be widespread unemployment in that industry. If you want to save money in the USA, stop subsidizing industry such as the soy farmers. They are one of many milking the socialist cow in the USA. If the USA were to withdraw from NATO they would be given the boot from numerous European and Canadian bases. Where would they go and what would the cost be. Furthermore, the NATO countries would then favour European arms manufacturers so there would be a double foot in mouth by the USA. If Trump was president he of course could station troops on his pal Putin's turf. Some people have the primitive concept of money being collectible pieces of paper, coins, etc. I used to give the students exercises in class to demonstrate how it only takes a small amount tangible money to operate a much larger economy. I loved watching the bells rings when they understood it. And the exercise that brings on a banking and stock market crash was amazing. When all the money in the room ended up with 2 or 3 people who had no reason to spend it, the rest of the class was completely irate. Teaching is a fun job.
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Sept 14, 2024 0:28:44 GMT -5
States already charge sales tax, its 11% where I live... Imo, tax is never a good thing, I've never voted for any politician proposing new taxes.. I would however, be in favor of a national sales tax, but only if it replaced income taxes.
Kamala is going to pay for all the freebees she's promising by raising the capital gains tax from 20 to 39%, and raising the tax on businesses from 21 to 28%. She also wants to tax unrealized capital gains, meaning she wants your money before you've even collected a dime.
The proposal affects Americans with net worths of $100 million or more. I didn't realise you had that much. From www.forbes.com/sites/dereksaul/2024/09/03/what-is-unrealized-capital-gains-tax-unpacking-kamala-harris-backed-proposal-on-ultra-wealthy/...the affected individuals would pay taxes on assets that appreciated in value through a year, even if they did not sell, bucking the current standard that only charges capital gains taxes on profits tallied from those assets. For example, if the world’s richest man Elon Musk saw his $102 billion stake in Tesla at the end of 2023 rise to $122 billion by year’s end due to an increase in Tesla’s share price, he would pay taxes on the $20 billion increase in the value of his Tesla stock; current tax code requires he would have only had to pay capital gains tax if he actually offloaded his shares in the electric vehicle company. There's also a good argument for having fairly standard tax rates across countries. If Dan does not like taxes, how then does he propose to pay for essential services?
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Post by fixit on Sept 14, 2024 1:43:31 GMT -5
There's also a good argument for having fairly standard tax rates across countries. The fact that taxes differ so much between countries is a significant problem.
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Post by Lee on Sept 14, 2024 8:33:18 GMT -5
Money is an idol. Its inordinate attention and deceptive evaluation means our continued deflection from God as he would redeem us.
Honest money is spiritually born. Idols are the tools of demons.
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Post by Lee on Sept 14, 2024 9:24:46 GMT -5
Leftists believe government can be an effective surrogate for God and are less likely to oppose their ability to tax, overspend, and exert control. A balanced budget is a reasonable expectation of people for their hired men and women to stay in their lane.
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Post by Lee on Sept 14, 2024 9:26:35 GMT -5
Free trade with governments lacking the founding principles of America is to coddle dictators and confuse principles.
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Post by Lee on Sept 14, 2024 9:27:49 GMT -5
“Moderation in temper is always a virtue; but moderation in principle is always a vice.” THOMAS PAINE
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Post by snow on Sept 14, 2024 14:07:33 GMT -5
No, it's not the same thing at all. Do you realize that the interest the government pays on the debt pays a WHOLE LOT of salaries in a lot of different jobs -- private jobs, like you once provided? And people don't eat the money when they earn it - - they spend it so that others will get the money and they will be able to spend it and so on and so on. That's how the US economy got to be so vibrant. So you just have to let people who know more about this than you do, or you could possibly be in a heap of trouble if the circulation of money slammed down too suddenly and completely. There is a good argument for borrowing money to build public infrastructure as it benefits future generations who will contribute to the cost. The USA spend billions on arms. If that money tap was turned off there would be widespread unemployment in that industry. If you want to save money in the USA, stop subsidizing industry such as the soy farmers. They are one of many milking the socialist cow in the USA. If the USA were to withdraw from NATO they would be given the boot from numerous European and Canadian bases. Where would they go and what would the cost be. Furthermore, the NATO countries would then favour European arms manufacturers so there would be a double foot in mouth by the USA. If Trump was president he of course could station troops on his pal Putin's turf. Putin has endorsed Kamala Harris. Not sure how to interpret that tidbit! Was he joking? Probably www.snopes.com/fact-check/putin-endorse-kamala/
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Sept 14, 2024 14:11:32 GMT -5
There is a good argument for borrowing money to build public infrastructure as it benefits future generations who will contribute to the cost. The USA spend billions on arms. If that money tap was turned off there would be widespread unemployment in that industry. If you want to save money in the USA, stop subsidizing industry such as the soy farmers. They are one of many milking the socialist cow in the USA. If the USA were to withdraw from NATO they would be given the boot from numerous European and Canadian bases. Where would they go and what would the cost be. Furthermore, the NATO countries would then favour European arms manufacturers so there would be a double foot in mouth by the USA. If Trump was president he of course could station troops on his pal Putin's turf. Putin has endorsed Kamala Harris. Not sure how to interpret that tidbit! I think he is playing games. She is too smart a woman to fall into traps. Where as Trump loves having his massive ego stoked.
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Post by snow on Sept 14, 2024 14:58:43 GMT -5
Putin has endorsed Kamala Harris. Not sure how to interpret that tidbit! I think he is playing games. She is too smart a woman to fall into traps. Where as Trump loves having his massive ego stoked. Oh I'm sure she doesn't care one way or the other what Putin thinks in that regard. Trump is the one that says he doesn't know if he should be insulted or not. He would just call it 'fake news' if he decides it's an insult
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Post by Lee on Sept 14, 2024 19:04:46 GMT -5
While trump is no match for the zionists who frame our world, he showed more fear of war than Kamala did in the debate. Together with neo-cons, she equates Russia with Satan. Everyone knows Americas Satan today is anyone who gets in the way of wall streets collusion with government and profits.
War is Gods punishment for Adamic disobedience, whether it’s prosecuted righteously or not.
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Sept 14, 2024 19:27:41 GMT -5
While trump is no match for the zionists who frame our world, he showed more fear of war than Kamala did in the debate. Together with neo-cons, she equates Russia with Satan. Everyone knows Americas Satan today is anyone who gets in the way of wall streets collusion with government and profits. War is Gods punishment for Adamic disobedience, whether it’s prosecuted righteously or not. Wrong again. Your generalization that "everyone knows" bla bla bla is totally wrong. You are putting into words the crass generalizations that christianity and other religions vomit up regularly. People who do not subscribe to the religious delusions you think you represent have a totally different world view. It's one that is sane and based on factual evidence.
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Post by Lee on Sept 14, 2024 19:55:19 GMT -5
Actually, your worldview is insane. It offers no explanation for evil, nor the nihilistic end our society and universe appear to be terminating in.
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Sept 14, 2024 19:57:25 GMT -5
Actually, your worldview is insane. It offers no explanation for evil, nor the nihilistic end our society and universe appear to be terminating in. Meow.
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Post by Lee on Sept 14, 2024 19:59:50 GMT -5
Right.
You could handle life better as a cat than a man.
But you’re a man. Stop screwing off.
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