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Post by help on Dec 8, 2023 0:00:07 GMT -5
Remember that wonderful English show on TV, "Waiting for God". My Wife and I are now well and truly in that zone, and you are made more aware of your mortality as you attend more and more funerals. You can be talking to them today, next week they can become ashes, or planted seven feet under. You don't worry about death, but you do think about it, with age you accept it is just part of life. Fear of death may be the most primal Human fear, one we all experience differently. People who are older, in committed relationships, physically healthy, and either very religious or not religious at all tend to be less afraid of death. Atheists are those who have no fear of death, because they know that it is the final stop, and they are not concerned if they will make it to a fictitious destination. That means their mind is more at rest without a lot of anxiety, have I made the cut?. Simplifies things. We were at a funeral recently and two gentlemen our vintage sat in front of us in the next pew. One said to the other, "We will have to stop doing this John, it is becoming a bad habit". We would have to agree. We play this song often just to remind us that we are still here, that's if we can remember. youtu.be/6dbBfXCMbH4?si=q7qfO4HUpfXFo2YX
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Post by guest8 on Dec 8, 2023 1:08:55 GMT -5
Good on you Help. No doubt you and W. have good hearts. Often think of you both and the struggle with health. Kind regards.
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Post by magpies39plus on Dec 16, 2023 3:32:20 GMT -5
Salvation starts this side of the grave. Death is just opening the door to continue. PS I have made a vow that my funeral will be the last one i will attend.
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Post by Annan on Dec 16, 2023 8:34:19 GMT -5
Remember that wonderful English show on TV, "Waiting for God". My Wife and I are now well and truly in that zone, and you are made more aware of your mortality as you attend more and more funerals. You can be talking to them today, next week they can become ashes, or planted seven feet under. You don't worry about death, but you do think about it, with age you accept it is just part of life. Fear of death may be the most primal Human fear, one we all experience differently. People who are older, in committed relationships, physically healthy, and either very religious or not religious at all tend to be less afraid of death. Atheists are those who have no fear of death, because they know that it is the final stop, and they are not concerned if they will make it to a fictitious destination. That means their mind is more at rest without a lot of anxiety, have I made the cut?. Simplifies things. We were at a funeral recently and two gentlemen our vintage sat in front of us in the next pew. One said to the other, "We will have to stop doing this John, it is becoming a bad habit". We would have to agree. We play this song often just to remind us that we are still here, that's if we can remember. youtu.be/6dbBfXCMbH4?si=q7qfO4HUpfXFo2YXAs an atheist, I am not afraid of death, but at times I don't like the thought of not being present in this world. I was watching a TV show where a young woman died. I kept thinking, how can a a body just laying there motionless, lifeless. It's not supposed to happen that way. We get old and it is time to move on so the next generations can be. When someone dies before their time, it is puzzling as to what happened to the life that animated them. I tend to think that life is a whole that we all partake of. It's like when a turtle lays 100 eggs and only ten make it to the sea and only one survives in the sea. Life is about continuance of the whole of life and not individuality. I don't know what is on the other side of life if anything. Guess I will find out... or not.
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Post by help on Dec 19, 2023 4:44:06 GMT -5
Annan , I liked your comment, " Life is about continuance of the whole of life and not individuality". I agree and so often we forget that we are such a small part of a much greater creation, that is continuous life. From my favourite Desiderata, "You are a child of the Universe no less than the trees and the stars; you have a right to be here".
Mind you in time that Universe will die. Don't panic not anytime soon. In about 100 trillion years, the last light will go out. The bad news is that the Universe is going to die a slow, aching, miserable death. The good news is that we won't be around to see it.
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Post by Pragmatic on Dec 19, 2023 13:51:25 GMT -5
Cheers mate. Like Guest I think of you. Remember that other program, "One foot in the Grave"?
My father used to say, "More yesterdays than tomorrows", and once you pass 40 odd, you know that's only going to get truer. I embrace life, because I know I will not get out of it alive. Enjoy every moment.
Not sure when I will get to your country next, but I know we do plan to spend time at Uluru sometime next year.
Merry Christmas my friend.
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Post by help on Dec 19, 2023 16:29:51 GMT -5
Thank you so much Guest and Prags for your kind thoughts. It is people like you that make TMB a better forum. TMB has become a better forum this year and full marks to the people who have made it so. Three cheers for Admin, who has done a wonderful job, which at times would have its difficulties. A job well done, thank you. I wish everybody on TMB a very pleasant Christmas with your loved ones. Best wishes for 2024 may TMB continue to be a good place to spend time. This one is for you Prags. www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4mTKcJfnnE
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Post by Pragmatic on Dec 19, 2023 18:53:57 GMT -5
A great song - I really like Warren Williams, and in my other life in Entertainment Promotion, we were looking to have an Australia Day here (Pre-Covid) and have John Williamson, Jeremy Donovan (he got me started on the didge in 2004) and David Hudson among the artists. When I was up in Wilpena Pound in the Flinders, we actually played Raining on the Rock in our 4WD. (the studio original has didge and 12string guitar)
Thanks - I have this playing as I write.
As we say in our language, Meri Kirihimete me te Hape Nū Ia
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Dec 19, 2023 19:17:33 GMT -5
A great song - I really like Warren Williams, and in my other life in Entertainment Promotion, we were looking to have an Australia Day here (Pre-Covid) and have John Williamson, Jeremy Donovan (he got me started on the didge in 2004) and David Hudson among the artists. When I was up in Wilpena Pound in the Flinders, we actually played Raining on the Rock in our 4WD. (the studio original has didge and 12string guitar) Thanks - I have this playing as I write. As we say in our language, Meri Kirihimete me te Hape Nū Ia I'd like to see the John Butler trio over here again. (strange sort of trio)
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Post by snow on Dec 20, 2023 14:32:37 GMT -5
Thank you so much Guest and Prags for your kind thoughts. It is people like you that make TMB a better forum. TMB has become a better forum this year and full marks to the people who have made it so. Three cheers for Admin, who has done a wonderful job, which at times would have its difficulties. A job well done, thank you. I wish everybody on TMB a very pleasant Christmas with your loved ones. Best wishes for 2024 may TMB continue to be a good place to spend time. This one is for you Prags. www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4mTKcJfnnEMerry Christmas to you and yours also help.
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Post by Admin on Dec 21, 2023 17:19:31 GMT -5
Thank you so much Guest and Prags for your kind thoughts. It is people like you that make TMB a better forum. TMB has become a better forum this year and full marks to the people who have made it so. Three cheers for Admin, who has done a wonderful job, which at times would have its difficulties. A job well done, thank you. I wish everybody on TMB a very pleasant Christmas with your loved ones. Best wishes for 2024 may TMB continue to be a good place to spend time. This one is for you Prags. www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4mTKcJfnnEAnd thank you for that, help. Far from perfect, but we do our best "With a Little Help from My Friends"!! admin
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Post by help on Dec 21, 2023 23:20:46 GMT -5
Blessed In Aging by Esther Mary Walker Blessed are they who understand my faltering step and shaking hand. Blessed who know my ears today must strain to hear the things they say. Blessed are those who seem to know my eyes are dim and my mind is slow Blessed are those who look away when I spilled tea that weary day. Blessed are they who, with cheery smile, stopped to chat for a little while. Blessed are they who know the way to bring back memories of yesterday. Blessed are those who never say “You’ve told that story twice today.” Blessed are they who make it known that I am loved, respected and not alone. And blessed are they who will ease the days of my journey home, in loving ways. www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPFCn3itBFE
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Post by help on Jan 26, 2024 9:51:18 GMT -5
My dear sweetheart Wendy has now gone into permanent residential Aged Care. The Alzheimer's is taking over and her Doctor told her she will need more care that I would be unable to provide. Not easy being separated from the only Woman you have ever loved and spent the last 63 years with. Many tears. I will visit every day and have a meal with her. I just love this song that I post, it was and still is my Wendy. It does make the tears run down my cheeks. www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Wzra15jcQ0
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Post by maryhig on Jan 26, 2024 11:55:31 GMT -5
My dear sweetheart Wendy has now gone into permanent residential Aged Care. The Alzheimer's is taking over and her Doctor told her she will need more care that I would be unable to provide. Not easy being separated from the only Woman you have ever loved and spent the last 63 years with. Many tears. I will visit every day and have a meal with her. I just love this song that I post, it was and still is my Wendy. It does make the tears run down my cheeks. www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Wzra15jcQ0Oh help I'm so sorry 😢 🫂
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2024 11:59:27 GMT -5
My dear sweetheart Wendy has now gone into permanent residential Aged Care. The Alzheimer's is taking over and her Doctor told her she will need more care that I would be unable to provide. Not easy being separated from the only Woman you have ever loved and spent the last 63 years with. Many tears. I will visit every day and have a meal with her. I just love this song that I post, it was and still is my Wendy. It does make the tears run down my cheeks. www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Wzra15jcQ0Very sorry redback, thoughts and prayers to you so you can handle this...63 years...awesome...
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Post by xna on Jan 26, 2024 13:25:56 GMT -5
My dear sweetheart Wendy has now gone into permanent residential Aged Care. The Alzheimer's is taking over and her Doctor told her she will need more care that I would be unable to provide. Not easy being separated from the only Woman you have ever loved and spent the last 63 years with. Many tears. I will visit every day and have a meal with her. I just love this song that I post, it was and still is my Wendy. It does make the tears run down my cheeks. www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Wzra15jcQ0Sorry
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Post by Pragmatic on Jan 26, 2024 15:35:27 GMT -5
Oh, mate. I am so sorry. I say my mother start to succumb to the same, and it's like witnessing a slow death as the person you know slips into a world of their own. What it does do though, is prepare you for the inevitable when it does come, although it makes it so tough in the meantime.
My thoughts are with you and her, and as Wally said, 63 years...awesome. Stay strong, and keep posting on here, when you can. I, for one, find what you have to say adds value and often gives pause for thought, as you share wisdom of your life well lived.
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Post by SharonArnold on Jan 26, 2024 15:49:59 GMT -5
My dear sweetheart Wendy has now gone into permanent residential Aged Care. The Alzheimer's is taking over and her Doctor told her she will need more care that I would be unable to provide. Not easy being separated from the only Woman you have ever loved and spent the last 63 years with. Many tears. I will visit every day and have a meal with her. I just love this song that I post, it was and still is my Wendy. It does make the tears run down my cheeks. www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Wzra15jcQ0I am so sorry. What a beautiful song. What a blessing to have had this kind of relationship. I am so happy that this was your experience. You seem to have a lot of wisdom and inner resources. I know both will help you through the happy/bittersweet/difficult moments ahead.
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Post by verna on Jan 26, 2024 15:53:18 GMT -5
My dear sweetheart Wendy has now gone into permanent residential Aged Care. The Alzheimer's is taking over and her Doctor told her she will need more care that I would be unable to provide. Not easy being separated from the only Woman you have ever loved and spent the last 63 years with. Many tears. I will visit every day and have a meal with her. I just love this song that I post, it was and still is my Wendy. It does make the tears run down my cheeks. www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Wzra15jcQ0Sending my love help. No words suffice. ❤️
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Post by Admin on Jan 26, 2024 17:11:38 GMT -5
My dear sweetheart Wendy has now gone into permanent residential Aged Care. The Alzheimer's is taking over and her Doctor told her she will need more care that I would be unable to provide. Not easy being separated from the only Woman you have ever loved and spent the last 63 years with. Many tears. I will visit every day and have a meal with her. I just love this song that I post, it was and still is my Wendy. It does make the tears run down my cheeks. www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Wzra15jcQ0Dear help/redback, those visits and daily meals with your Wendy will be sweet and very precious! (what a guy, you are an angel) Know you have the support of your community of friends here on TMB, and prayers from us Christians here. admin
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Post by otto2 on Jan 26, 2024 17:31:12 GMT -5
]As an atheist, I am not afraid of death, but at times I don't like the thought of not being present in this world. I was watching a TV show where a young woman died. I kept thinking, how can a a body just laying there motionless, lifeless. It's not supposed to happen that way. We get old and it is time to move on so the next generations can be. When someone dies before their time, it is puzzling as to what happened to the life that animated them. I don't know what is on the other side of life if anything. Guess I will find out... or not. Ecclesiastes 12:7 gives you the answer Annan: ‘Then the dust will return to the earth as it was, And the spirit will return to God who gave it’; which is a reference to Genesis 2:7 which says: ‘And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living being’. When the paramedics are trying to save a person’s life, but after a while they sit back and say “I’m sorry, he’s gone”! The question is - where has he gone, and what exactly has gone? The same paramedics could examine the person and not find a single thing missing. Nothing that was there just a few moments ago is missing - other than the very essence of life that was within that person. The Bible tells us what it was, and it tells us where it has gone.
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Post by otto2 on Jan 26, 2024 17:39:03 GMT -5
Thanks for reminding me about the Don Williams song, help; I’ve just forwarded it on to my own wonderful wife of 39 years.
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Post by bfvernon on Jan 26, 2024 19:11:07 GMT -5
Thoughts and prayers are with you, Redback. It’s a privilege to have known you here on TMB. God will make a way for you through this dreadful pain.
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Post by chuck on Jan 26, 2024 19:22:58 GMT -5
]As an atheist, I am not afraid of death, but at times I don't like the thought of not being present in this world. I was watching a TV show where a young woman died. I kept thinking, how can a a body just laying there motionless, lifeless. It's not supposed to happen that way. We get old and it is time to move on so the next generations can be. When someone dies before their time, it is puzzling as to what happened to the life that animated them. I don't know what is on the other side of life if anything. Guess I will find out... or not. Ecclesiastes 12:7 gives you the answer Annan: ‘Then the dust will return to the earth as it was, And the spirit will return to God who gave it’; which is a reference to Genesis 2:7 which says: ‘And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living being’. When the paramedics are trying to save a person’s life, but after a while they sit back and say “I’m sorry, he’s gone”! The question is - where has he gone, and what exactly has gone? The same paramedics could examine the person and not find a single thing missing. Nothing that was there just a few moments ago is missing - other than the very essence of life that was within that person. The Bible tells us what it was, and it tells us where it has gone. Whats missing is his breath......
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Post by guest8 on Jan 26, 2024 19:36:47 GMT -5
My dear sweetheart Wendy has now gone into permanent residential Aged Care. The Alzheimer's is taking over and her Doctor told her she will need more care that I would be unable to provide. Not easy being separated from the only Woman you have ever loved and spent the last 63 years with. Many tears. I will visit every day and have a meal with her. I just love this song that I post, it was and still is my Wendy. It does make the tears run down my cheeks. www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Wzra15jcQ0To date, what a length of time to have 'your best friend', as your dearly loved wife. Thinking of you Help. Love & hugs.
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Post by Dan on Jan 26, 2024 19:58:14 GMT -5
My dear sweetheart Wendy has now gone into permanent residential Aged Care. The Alzheimer's is taking over and her Doctor told her she will need more care that I would be unable to provide. Not easy being separated from the only Woman you have ever loved and spent the last 63 years with. Many tears. I will visit every day and have a meal with her. I just love this song that I post, it was and still is my Wendy. It does make the tears run down my cheeks. www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Wzra15jcQ0
Sorry to hear that, alzheimer's is a tough thing to deal with, its good you could keep her home for as long as you did. The separation will be difficult, but its nice that you'll see her everyday. Nice song, its wonderful that you found your soul mate and have had a long life together, God bless you both.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2024 20:12:23 GMT -5
]As an atheist, I am not afraid of death, but at times I don't like the thought of not being present in this world. I was watching a TV show where a young woman died. I kept thinking, how can a a body just laying there motionless, lifeless. It's not supposed to happen that way. We get old and it is time to move on so the next generations can be. When someone dies before their time, it is puzzling as to what happened to the life that animated them. I don't know what is on the other side of life if anything. Guess I will find out... or not. Ecclesiastes 12:7 gives you the answer Annan: ‘Then the dust will return to the earth as it was, And the spirit will return to God who gave it’; which is a reference to Genesis 2:7 which says: ‘And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living being’. When the paramedics are trying to save a person’s life, but after a while they sit back and say “I’m sorry, he’s gone”! The question is - where has he gone, and what exactly has gone? The same paramedics could examine the person and not find a single thing missing. Nothing that was there just a few moments ago is missing - other than the very essence of life that was within that person. The Bible tells us what it was, and it tells us where it has gone. Very well said...
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Post by help on Jan 27, 2024 13:15:10 GMT -5
Thank you so much you wonderful people for your kind thoughs and support. I draw great comfort from it and hope that TMB continues to spread love and not hate. Wendy's situation is not good, will be talking to her Doctor in a weeks time and will get a better idea of the prognosis. So bye for now, will keep in touch.
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