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Post by sheri01 on Nov 2, 2023 11:25:12 GMT -5
We are over 7 months into this crisis since AFTT started the hotline and investigation. Eyes have been opened for sure, there is more exposure on a daily basis, more protection of countless innocent children and vulnerable adults. Our mission remains strong!
“Giving voice and protection to survivors, exposure and accountability of perpetrators, and justice to survivors.”
I’ve seen and heard the frustration of many that things are not moving quickly enough. We are not seeing enough charges, arrests, convictions….. I too, am truly looking forward to when the criminals are getting arrested on a frequent basis.
People think that will change things…..
Then I realized, Jerome Frandle was charged, convicted and did time in jail in 2012. The community keeps him in the highest position of leadership within the community. He is currently an Overseer in Kentucky/Tennessee.
Jerome Frandle who’s been an Overseer since 1990 to present, was charged and convicted for failure to report sex crimes! How many men, women and children’s lives has Jerome ruined by covering sex crimes?
We want arrests and convictions of criminals to improve public safety while the community condones a convicted criminal to be in a position of power?
What if a criminal Jerome covered for, molests YOUR child or grandchild? Or rapes your brother, sister, friend or family member?
It’s not JUST about arrests, convictions and jail time. It’s also about personal responsibility and taking a stand for what is right. ZERO TOLERANCE!
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Post by fixit on Nov 2, 2023 15:26:42 GMT -5
Thanks Sheri.
We all know that the organisation is not a democracy, and leaders are choosen by leaders rather than chosen by the community.
Leaders can be expected to choose people like themselves as leaders.
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Post by SharonArnold on Nov 2, 2023 17:33:09 GMT -5
To have a zero tolerance policy for diddling little children is an extremely low bar, morally and ethically, even for the supposed lowest members of society. (Google what what happens to pedophiles when they are released into gen pop in a prison.)
And, here, we have the representatives of God’s-One-True-Way-on-Earth, who are seemingly not at all bothered by it.
I.CAN.NOT.EVEN. conceive this, much less accept it.
If this is not enough to wake people up, then I don't think I can say more.
Perhaps, someday, an individual will molest or cover up the molestation of (In God's eyes, I don't see that there is any degree of difference between these two) the wrong child and there will be irreversible consequences. Perhaps THAT will be enough to stop it on a systemic basis.
But, in the meantime, people need to have a good hard look at what they supporting/what they are a part of.
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Post by fixit on Nov 2, 2023 22:08:29 GMT -5
Perhaps, someday, an individual will molest or cover up the molestation of (In God's eyes, I don't see that there is any degree of difference between these two) the wrong child and there will be irreversible consequences. Perhaps THAT will be enough to stop it on a systemic basis. But, in the meantime, people need to have a good hard look at what they supporting/what they are a part of. If someone from the W&F community was on death row if might wake people up. Secular authorities seem to have a better moral compass than workers and friends have. The overwhelming majority of lawmakers passing this bill in Florida is interesting.
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Post by bfvernon on Nov 3, 2023 15:38:15 GMT -5
And add to all of the above - they don’t even have correct theology, yet they claim they are the only RIGHT way, the rest of Christendom is going to hell. The psychological damage this group has inflicted on ALL its members is unethical, unrighteousness, illegal and immeasurable. Anyone who still belongs to the group should be ashamed.
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Post by snow on Nov 3, 2023 16:55:12 GMT -5
Perhaps, someday, an individual will molest or cover up the molestation of (In God's eyes, I don't see that there is any degree of difference between these two) the wrong child and there will be irreversible consequences. Perhaps THAT will be enough to stop it on a systemic basis. But, in the meantime, people need to have a good hard look at what they supporting/what they are a part of. If someone from the W&F community was on death row if might wake people up. Secular authorities seem to have a better moral compass than workers and friends have. The overwhelming majority of lawmakers passing this bill in Florida is interesting. I have to wonder if the law will stand though. Here is why: The bill runs up against Supreme Court precedent. In 2008, the high court ruled 5-4 in Kennedy v. Louisiana that the death penalty could not be levied against child rapists or anyone who committed a crime in which the victim did not die. So it might get shot down at the highest court level because the death penalty at the moment can only be an option if the victim dies.
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Post by fixit on Nov 3, 2023 17:03:49 GMT -5
If someone from the W&F community was on death row if might wake people up. Secular authorities seem to have a better moral compass than workers and friends have. The overwhelming majority of lawmakers passing this bill in Florida is interesting. I have to wonder if the law will stand though. Here is why: The bill runs up against Supreme Court precedent. In 2008, the high court ruled 5-4 in Kennedy v. Louisiana that the death penalty could not be levied against child rapists or anyone who committed a crime in which the victim did not die. So it might get shot down at the highest court level because the death penalty at the moment can only be an option if the victim dies. It sends a message though, that society takes the sexual abuse of kids seriously.
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Post by BobWilliston on Nov 3, 2023 18:50:23 GMT -5
If someone from the W&F community was on death row if might wake people up. Secular authorities seem to have a better moral compass than workers and friends have. The overwhelming majority of lawmakers passing this bill in Florida is interesting. I have to wonder if the law will stand though. Here is why: The bill runs up against Supreme Court precedent. In 2008, the high court ruled 5-4 in Kennedy v. Louisiana that the death penalty could not be levied against child rapists or anyone who committed a crime in which the victim did not die. So it might get shot down at the highest court level because the death penalty at the moment can only be an option if the victim dies. Exactly. That rule is in effect so that states can't legitimize the death penalty for a whole array of crimes that has existed throughout U.S. history. In my lifetime they hanged a black man from a tree on someone's front lawn and posed with the hanging corpse for a picture for the front page of the newspaper. Americans can shoot someone for looking at them the wrong way.
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