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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2023 14:30:01 GMT -5
In our study last night Proverbs 24, this popped out to me at the last minute before meeting started...
Pro 24:11 If thou forbear to deliver them that are drawn unto death, and those that are ready to be slain;
Pro 24:12 If thou sayest, Behold, we knew it not; doth not he that pondereth the heart consider it? and he that keepeth thy soul, doth not he know it? and shall not he render to every man according to his works?
God's fair warning...
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Post by eddy5 on Jun 1, 2023 18:56:04 GMT -5
It was a couple other verses that really popped out for me:
Proverbs 24:24-25 He that saith unto the wicked, Thou art righteous; him shall the people curse, nations shall abhor him: But to them that rebuke him shall be delight, and a good blessing shall come upon them.
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Post by flower on Jun 1, 2023 21:15:22 GMT -5
The Epistle of Jude also makes interesting reading at this time. He writes of certain men and their evil and immoral ways. Tells us to contend earnestly for the faith.
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Post by Admin on Jun 1, 2023 22:58:43 GMT -5
In our study last night Proverbs 24, this popped out to me at the last minute before meeting started... Pro 24:11 If thou forbear to deliver them that are drawn unto death, and those that are ready to be slain; Pro 24:12 If thou sayest, Behold, we knew it not; doth not he that pondereth the heart consider it? and he that keepeth thy soul, doth not he know it? and shall not he render to every man according to his works? God's fair warning... Impressive @wally, fair warning indeed. A timely study this week. Here's the NIV: 24:11 Rescue those being led away to death; hold back those staggering toward slaughter. 24:12 If you say, “But we knew nothing about this,” does not he who weighs the heart perceive it? Does not he who guards your life know it? Will he not repay everyone according to what they have done? Thanks too, eddy5. Here's the NIV for verses 24 & 25: 24:24 Whoever says to the guilty, “You are innocent,” will be cursed by peoples and denounced by nations. 24:25 But it will go well with those who convict the guilty, and rich blessing will come on them. Will leave this thread here for a short time, then move to the thread professing.proboards.com/thread/31998/word-god-on-subject-csaflower, good suggestion re relevance of the Epistle of Jude right now. I've started a thread on the 'Study Scripture with Scott' board, hopefully some of us can contribute there as we find time and opportunity.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2023 18:14:47 GMT -5
For Wednesday night coming up.
Pro 28:13 He that covereth his sins shall not prosper: but whoso confesseth and forsaketh them shall have mercy.
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Post by passingby on Jun 25, 2023 20:44:32 GMT -5
One of the things I always enjoyed about mtgs, Sunday or Wed night, was even though it was often a pain trying to find something good (the bible being the common touch stone) you could relate to. Making it a living testimony. Seems everyone in the mtg tried to do that too which made it an uplifting and worth while time.
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Post by ForeverFree on Jun 25, 2023 22:44:29 GMT -5
One of the things I always enjoyed about mtgs, Sunday or Wed night, was even though it was often a pain trying to find something good (the bible being the common touch stone) you could relate to. Making it a living testimony. Seems everyone in the mtg tried to do that too which made it an uplifting and worth while time. What world did YOU live in? I saw so many "Sunday morning Christians". Their meeting testimony (Sunday, Wednesday, convention, special meeting) would include how they would long to be more Christ-like, etc, and following the meeting and through the week they could be heard saying things that were in total opposite to the "desire" in their testimony. Backstabbing fellow friends, making racist and anti-other-religion comments, among other things. I know this is human nature and happens in other religions too, but it irritated me to see it directly in front of me by those who I was expected to show respect for. I could not then, and to this day do not have any respect for many of those people.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2023 23:26:03 GMT -5
One of the things I always enjoyed about mtgs, Sunday or Wed night, was even though it was often a pain trying to find something good (the bible being the common touch stone) you could relate to. Making it a living testimony. Seems everyone in the mtg tried to do that too which made it an uplifting and worth while time. What world did YOU live in? I saw so many "Sunday morning Christians". Their meeting testimony (Sunday, Wednesday, convention, special meeting) would include how they would long to be more Christ-like, etc, and following the meeting and through the week they could be heard saying things that were in total opposite to the "desire" in their testimony. Backstabbing fellow friends, making racist and anti-other-religion comments, among other things. I know this is human nature and happens in other religions too, but it irritated me to see it directly in front of me by those who I was expected to show respect for. I could not then, and to this day do not have any respect for many of those people. Do you mean other denominations? Cause saying other "religions" are goofy wouldn't be bad at all....
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Post by Pragmatic on Jun 25, 2023 23:31:53 GMT -5
One of the things I always enjoyed about mtgs, Sunday or Wed night, was even though it was often a pain trying to find something good (the bible being the common touch stone) you could relate to. Making it a living testimony. Seems everyone in the mtg tried to do that too which made it an uplifting and worth while time. What world did YOU live in? I saw so many "Sunday morning Christians". Their meeting testimony (Sunday, Wednesday, convention, special meeting) would include how they would long to be more Christ-like, etc, and following the meeting and through the week they could be heard saying things that were in total opposite to the "desire" in their testimony. Backstabbing fellow friends, making racist and anti-other-religion comments, among other things. I know this is human nature and happens in other religions too, but it irritated me to see it directly in front of me by those who I was expected to show respect for. I could not then, and to this day do not have any respect for many of those people. I sure know what you mean, and even from some considered to be pillars of the church. I can say the same thing too though for some who I know are considered to be good Catholics,
I believe that in many cases going to church, or meetings, is simply paying the premium for their eternal life insurance
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Post by fixit on Jun 27, 2023 22:24:55 GMT -5
One of the things I always enjoyed about mtgs, Sunday or Wed night, was even though it was often a pain trying to find something good (the bible being the common touch stone) you could relate to. Making it a living testimony. Seems everyone in the mtg tried to do that too which made it an uplifting and worth while time. What world did YOU live in? I saw so many "Sunday morning Christians". Their meeting testimony (Sunday, Wednesday, convention, special meeting) would include how they would long to be more Christ-like, etc, and following the meeting and through the week they could be heard saying things that were in total opposite to the "desire" in their testimony. Backstabbing fellow friends, making racist and anti-other-religion comments, among other things. I know this is human nature and happens in other religions too, but it irritated me to see it directly in front of me by those who I was expected to show respect for. I could not then, and to this day do not have any respect for many of those people. Absolutely right. In meetings and in other groups there's way too much emphasis on belief of religious theory rather than BEING the church and BEARING the name (character) of God. By their FRUITS you will know them, not by their beliefs. John 8:31 Then Jesus said to the Jews who had believed in him, If you continue in my word, you are truly my disciples John 13:34 I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. 35 By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another. John 15:8 My Father is glorified by this, that you bear much fruit and become my disciples.
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Post by SharonArnold on Jun 29, 2023 13:55:13 GMT -5
One of the things I always enjoyed about mtgs, Sunday or Wed night, was even though it was often a pain trying to find something good (the bible being the common touch stone) you could relate to. Making it a living testimony. Seems everyone in the mtg tried to do that too which made it an uplifting and worth while time. What world did YOU live in? I saw so many "Sunday morning Christians". Their meeting testimony (Sunday, Wednesday, convention, special meeting) would include how they would long to be more Christ-like, etc, and following the meeting and through the week they could be heard saying things that were in total opposite to the "desire" in their testimony. Backstabbing fellow friends, making racist and anti-other-religion comments, among other things. I know this is human nature and happens in other religions too, but it irritated me to see it directly in front of me by those who I was expected to show respect for. I could not then, and to this day do not have any respect for many of those people. I can relate to what passingby says, as I was part of a few of those "working" meetings during my tenure as a 2X2. I never aspired to "something good", only to something meaningful. The problem for me, increasingly, (until I couldn't stand it anymore) was finding something that I could say from the bottom of my heart that would also be politically correct in a 2X2 world. At the same time, I also was aware of meetings that were more like ForeverFree describes. I was fortunately never part of one of those, except on a Union Sunday basis, or passing through for a very brief time. The meeting I was in, prior to my exit, was mostly really decent sincere people, with one mostly poisonous family. That family was definitely one of the reasons why I decided 2X2ism could never be a part of my future and was a significant factor in me voting with my feet when I did.
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Post by fixit on Jun 29, 2023 14:31:34 GMT -5
What world did YOU live in? I saw so many "Sunday morning Christians". Their meeting testimony (Sunday, Wednesday, convention, special meeting) would include how they would long to be more Christ-like, etc, and following the meeting and through the week they could be heard saying things that were in total opposite to the "desire" in their testimony. Backstabbing fellow friends, making racist and anti-other-religion comments, among other things. I know this is human nature and happens in other religions too, but it irritated me to see it directly in front of me by those who I was expected to show respect for. I could not then, and to this day do not have any respect for many of those people. I can relate to what passingby says, as I was part of a few of those "working" meetings during my tenure as a 2X2. I never aspired to "something good", only to something meaningful. The problem for me, increasingly, (until I couldn't stand it anymore) was finding something that I could say from the bottom of my heart that would also be politically correct in a 2X2 world. At the same time, I also was aware of meetings that were more like ForeverFree describes. I was fortunately never part of one of those, except on a Union Sunday basis, or passing through for a very brief time. The meeting I was in, prior to my exit, was mostly really decent sincere people, with one mostly poisonous family. That family was definitely one of the reasons why I decided 2X2ism could never be a part of my future and was a significant factor in me voting with my feet when I did. Your experience is repeated all over the world and helps to explain why the fellowship has spun off so many good people over the last few decades. If the leadership was as good as it claims to be, and shepherd-hearted, the damage the poison does would be obvious. Instead, they have a symbiotic relationship with the poisonous elements and consider them "kingdom minded". Like...."you praise and support me and I'll praise and support you".
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