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Post by ScholarGal on May 21, 2023 2:35:18 GMT -5
We’ve heard of several situations where people reporting abuse have been accused of gossiping. I read this blog post about gossip yesterday that presents an argument for being morally obligated to gossip in certain situations. This post hinges on the interpretation of a passage in Leviticus 19:16, which contains a colloquial phrase whose meaning has been lost. assertivespirituality.com/2023/05/14/haredi-metoo-dangers-of-not-gossiping/Have you ever been in a situation where you felt morally obligated to report something or warn someone about abusive behavior?
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Post by Jesse_Lackman on May 22, 2023 22:28:24 GMT -5
We’ve heard of several situations where people reporting abuse have been accused of gossiping. I read this blog post about gossip yesterday that presents an argument for being morally obligated to gossip in certain situations. This post hinges on the interpretation of a passage in Leviticus 19:16, which contains a colloquial phrase whose meaning has been lost. assertivespirituality.com/2023/05/14/haredi-metoo-dangers-of-not-gossiping/Have you ever been in a situation where you felt morally obligated to report something or warn someone about abusive behavior? Gossiping about what's not true is abusive behavior that I have been subject to. Yes I called it out, and got an apology.
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Post by BobWilliston on May 23, 2023 2:02:07 GMT -5
We’ve heard of several situations where people reporting abuse have been accused of gossiping. I read this blog post about gossip yesterday that presents an argument for being morally obligated to gossip in certain situations. This post hinges on the interpretation of a passage in Leviticus 19:16, which contains a colloquial phrase whose meaning has been lost. assertivespirituality.com/2023/05/14/haredi-metoo-dangers-of-not-gossiping/Have you ever been in a situation where you felt morally obligated to report something or warn someone about abusive behavior? Gossiping about what's not true is abusive behavior that I have been subject to. Yes I called it out, and got an apology. That's not gossip -- really.
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Post by BobWilliston on May 23, 2023 2:03:15 GMT -5
We’ve heard of several situations where people reporting abuse have been accused of gossiping. I read this blog post about gossip yesterday that presents an argument for being morally obligated to gossip in certain situations. This post hinges on the interpretation of a passage in Leviticus 19:16, which contains a colloquial phrase whose meaning has been lost. assertivespirituality.com/2023/05/14/haredi-metoo-dangers-of-not-gossiping/Have you ever been in a situation where you felt morally obligated to report something or warn someone about abusive behavior? It it's reporting to someone who can do something about it -- not gossip. Delighting in the story -- is gossip.
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Post by Jesse_Lackman on May 23, 2023 7:30:59 GMT -5
Gossiping about what's not true is abusive behavior that I have been subject to. Yes I called it out, and got an apology. That's not gossip -- really. That's exactly what gossip is; ”casual or unconstrained conversation or reports about other people, typically involving details that are not confirmed as being true.”
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Post by Jesse_Lackman on May 23, 2023 7:53:08 GMT -5
Here's Strong's meaning for talebearer in Lev 19:16; "a scandal-monger (as travelling about):—slander, carry tales, talebearer." Talebearer as used in Proverbs is a little different; "to roll to pieces; a slanderer:—talebearer, whisperer." " a scandal-monger (as travelling about):—slander, carry tales, talebearer." I understand what the blog author is getting at but like BobWilliston said, reporting something confirmed with first hand information to someone who can do something about it isn't gossip.
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Post by BobWilliston on May 23, 2023 20:47:15 GMT -5
That's not gossip -- really. That's exactly what gossip is; ”casual or unconstrained conversation or reports about other people, typically involving details that are not confirmed as being true.” HAHA. You're right. I missed the word "NOT" true in your post. Wally would love that little slip on my part.
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Post by peggysullivan on May 29, 2023 13:22:10 GMT -5
Gossip. Now there’s idle gossip which we all love to an extent. But then there’s the the voicing of genuine concerns. In my mind these two things are very different. For some reason… gossip is often not shut down and naturally flourishes. While the voices of genuine concerns are often shut down. The reality is many people don’t want to deal with the genuine problems. Most people will avoid unpleasant things. It’s how we humans are wired. It’s why I have never sought a job in management.
But: we are currently facing something that is bigger than we thought, more far reaching and has been going on for a long time. There are those that have known about the abuses and have been part of the cover ups. They should be held to account as well. It’s easier to look the other way in many cases. Now they are being forced to look at the problem straight on. No more looking the other way.
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Post by 1chinesewhispers on May 29, 2023 13:58:26 GMT -5
We’ve heard of several situations where people reporting abuse have been accused of gossiping. I read this blog post about gossip yesterday that presents an argument for being morally obligated to gossip in certain situations. This post hinges on the interpretation of a passage in Leviticus 19:16, which contains a colloquial phrase whose meaning has been lost. assertivespirituality.com/2023/05/14/haredi-metoo-dangers-of-not-gossiping/Have you ever been in a situation where you felt morally obligated to report something or warn someone about abusive behavior? Yea I have had to do so .
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Post by 1chinesewhispers on May 29, 2023 14:01:40 GMT -5
To everything there is a time , to be quiet and a time to speak 🗣️ Yes I testified against my own child . There was gossip , however I knew she had done it . She spent 3 years in jail . Toughest thing I ever had to do . The investigation team came to me . It took 3 weeks to make the moral decision . She was a danger to others . I didn’t hear anything , because I was the last to testify . It hurt both of us .
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