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Post by Admin on Jan 8, 2022 17:14:06 GMT -5
This (new) thread is to advise admin of any administrative issues needing attention, or to ask questions. It is not for debating with other members, nor for arguing with admin. PM me if you wish for dialog.
Posts not specifically for this purpose, or no longer relevant will eventually be deleted. Thanks.
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Post by Admin on Apr 24, 2023 18:48:13 GMT -5
The aim is to ensure that the main board of TMB is open for all to read, especially current members of the F&W fellowship who may be internet-shy and definitely not inclined to join any of the closed Facebook or other sites like TLC.
As one of our regulars said, "Yes, all this CSA needs exposure and addressing by friends and workers."
But also, "There are many good people in the fellowship and I don't feel their fellowship needs exposing to the whole world as a CSA ridden church & with sex driven overseers looking at pornography."
It's a fine balance between openness and transparency, and keeping the main board user-friendly for a very wide spectrum of interested readers.
Other issues that do not have a place on the main board, and frankly are a turn-off for many casual readers, are arguments between TMB members which are of little or no interest to the rest of us. Some of these posts have been removed as moderators come across them, e.g. moved to places like the member-only Jump On Board, and some are just deleted.
In extreme circumstances where a TMB member proves incorrigible despite numerous warnings, we have had no other option but to ban these repeat-offenders from posting here. For the greater good!
admin
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Aug 10, 2023 1:34:46 GMT -5
Hi Admin, recently Internationalstudies said he has correspondence from you suggesting I am causing you trouble. I have asked him for this correspondence. Here is a copy and paste of what he said. Libel is only libel if it can be proved that it was untrue in court. In NZ all the cases I have mentioned are true. That International studies does not like them being mentioned and is possibly raising concerns with you does not speak well of either him or TMB if they were to bow to his will. Thankyou. Curls, Congrats! i) You haven't been crude or vulgar in your posts recently ii) Neither have you been causing concern to Admin ....and other decent people who read and post on TMB with more of your libellous posts! You get quite a kick out of your posts don't you! 🤙 (Your father, that decent man, would have given you a kick up the backside for them! But that doesn't concern you!)
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Post by Admin on Aug 10, 2023 22:34:57 GMT -5
Hi Admin, recently Internationalstudies said he has correspondence from you suggesting I am causing you trouble. I have asked him for this correspondence. Here is a copy and paste of what he said. Libel is only libel if it can be proved that it was untrue in court. In NZ all the cases I have mentioned are true. That International studies does not like them being mentioned and is possibly raising concerns with you does not speak well of either him or TMB if they were to bow to his will. Thankyou. Hi Curly, No I can confirm that you haven't been overstepping with anything libelous in your posts, neither have you been causing me or the other mod's (that I'm aware of) any trouble. I would like to think that I (and the other small number of moderator helpers) am impervious to complaints or any pressure from other TMB members, and that we administer fairly the rather simple set of TMB rules (the 5 rules at the bottom of the page). Furthermore, you are a valued member of TMB, and your good humor is certainly appreciated. You NZ'rs seem to be a fairly tight-knit eclectic group and you all seem to know each other pretty well! I will say, my knowledge of NZ'rs is largely limited to episodes of Flight of the Conchords, so not sure how realistic my understanding of you all really is!! admin
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Aug 10, 2023 23:25:32 GMT -5
Hi Admin, recently Internationalstudies said he has correspondence from you suggesting I am causing you trouble. I have asked him for this correspondence. Here is a copy and paste of what he said. Libel is only libel if it can be proved that it was untrue in court. In NZ all the cases I have mentioned are true. That International studies does not like them being mentioned and is possibly raising concerns with you does not speak well of either him or TMB if they were to bow to his will. Thankyou. Hi Curly, No I can confirm that you haven't been overstepping with anything libelous in your posts, neither have you been causing me or the other mod's (that I'm aware of) any trouble. I would like to think that I (and the other small number of moderator helpers) am impervious to complaints or any pressure from other TMB members, and that we administer fairly the rather simple set of TMB rules (the 5 rules at the bottom of the page). Furthermore, you are a valued member of TMB, and your good humor is certainly appreciated. You NZ'rs seem to be a fairly tight-knit eclectic group and you all seem to know each other pretty well! I will say, my knowledge of NZ'rs is largely limited to episodes of Flight of the Conchords, so not sure how realistic my understanding of you all really is!! admin Thankyou. May the fourth be with you.
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Post by internationalstudies on Aug 11, 2023 15:05:32 GMT -5
Hi Admin, recently Internationalstudies said he has correspondence from you suggesting I am causing you trouble. I have asked him for this correspondence. Here is a copy and paste of what he said. Libel is only libel if it can be proved that it was untrue in court. In NZ all the cases I have mentioned are true. That International studies does not like them being mentioned and is possibly raising concerns with you does not speak well of either him or TMB if they were to bow to his will. Thankyou. Hi Curly, No I can confirm that you haven't been overstepping with anything libelous in your posts, neither have you been causing me or the other mod's (that I'm aware of) any trouble. I would like to think that I (and the other small number of moderator helpers) am impervious to complaints or any pressure from other TMB members, and that we administer fairly the rather simple set of TMB rules (the 5 rules at the bottom of the page). Furthermore, you are a valued member of TMB, and your good humor is certainly appreciated. You NZ'rs seem to be a fairly tight-knit eclectic group and you all seem to know each other pretty well! I will say, my knowledge of NZ'rs is largely limited to episodes of Flight of the Conchords, so not sure how realistic my understanding of you all really is!! admin Hi Admin, mod 5 and and Curly, My apologies, it was regarding the post of another NZer, mary not curly that I raised my concern about the libellous content of. She received a libel warning from Admin. You are correct Admin it was rather repeated breaches of rule 5 by curly that I contacted you.. Are repeated breaches of rule 5 part of 'good humor'? Curly has made a number of posts containing crude vulgar statements about now deceased NZers. These people no longer able to verify the truth or falseness of what Curly wrote. Is this also 'good humor'? Admin/mod 5, our senses of humour differ! Our senses of decorum differ regarding what is appropriate for a public forum of a church. BUT
Admin and mods, I appreciate the time you put in seeking to ensure the rules of the board are followed and names are redacted from posts of a libellous nature THANK YOU for what you do in this!
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Post by BobWilliston on Aug 11, 2023 20:23:24 GMT -5
Hi Curly, No I can confirm that you haven't been overstepping with anything libelous in your posts, neither have you been causing me or the other mod's (that I'm aware of) any trouble. I would like to think that I (and the other small number of moderator helpers) am impervious to complaints or any pressure from other TMB members, and that we administer fairly the rather simple set of TMB rules (the 5 rules at the bottom of the page). Furthermore, you are a valued member of TMB, and your good humor is certainly appreciated. You NZ'rs seem to be a fairly tight-knit eclectic group and you all seem to know each other pretty well! I will say, my knowledge of NZ'rs is largely limited to episodes of Flight of the Conchords, so not sure how realistic my understanding of you all really is!! admin Hi Admin, mod 5 and and Curly, My apologies, it was regarding the post of another NZer, mary not curly that I raised my concern about the libellous content of. She received a libel warning from Admin. You are correct Admin it was rather repeated breaches of rule 5 by curly that I contacted you.. Are repeated breaches of rule 5 part of 'good humor'? Curly has made a number of posts containing crude vulgar statements about now deceased NZers. These people no longer able to verify the truth or falseness of what Curly wrote. Is this also 'good humor'? Admin/mod 5, our senses of humour differ! Our senses of decorum differ regarding what is appropriate for a public forum of a church. BUT
Admin and mods, I appreciate the time you put in seeking to ensure the rules of the board are followed and names are redacted from posts of a libellous nature THANK YOU for what you do in this! Rewriting history is hypocrisy.
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Post by Mary on Aug 11, 2023 23:44:41 GMT -5
Hi Curly, No I can confirm that you haven't been overstepping with anything libelous in your posts, neither have you been causing me or the other mod's (that I'm aware of) any trouble. I would like to think that I (and the other small number of moderator helpers) am impervious to complaints or any pressure from other TMB members, and that we administer fairly the rather simple set of TMB rules (the 5 rules at the bottom of the page). Furthermore, you are a valued member of TMB, and your good humor is certainly appreciated. You NZ'rs seem to be a fairly tight-knit eclectic group and you all seem to know each other pretty well! I will say, my knowledge of NZ'rs is largely limited to episodes of Flight of the Conchords, so not sure how realistic my understanding of you all really is!! admin Hi Admin, mod 5 and and Curly, My apologies, it was regarding the post of another NZer, mary not curly that I raised my concern about the libellous content of. She received a libel warning from Admin. You are correct Admin it was rather repeated breaches of rule 5 by curly that I contacted you.. Are repeated breaches of rule 5  part of 'good humor'? Curly has made a number of posts containing crude vulgar statements about now deceased NZers. These people no longer able to verify the truth or falseness of what Curly wrote. Is this also  'good humor'? Admin/mod 5, our senses of humour differ! Our senses of decorum  differ regarding what is appropriate for a public forum of a church. BUTÂ
Admin and mods, I appreciate the time you put in seeking to ensure the rules of the board are followed and names are redacted from posts of a libellous nature THANK YOU for what you do in this! Reposted from above: You make things up again. At no time have I received any libelous warning from admin as you claim or have I written anything libelous. Admin posted a post which I pressed reply and responded to. You also pressed reply with the same content in. Another poster also posted their comment the same as mine. If you want to talk about libel then the source was admin, not me. The post is on WINGS. Hopefully Graham Thompson continues to speak out against abuse in the church and not be silenced. 10 years ago when sexual abuse in your church was being exposed on this board you began attacking and trying to shut people down by saying it has been dealt with and you were liaisoning with professionals etc, the same as you are saying today. The Ministry Safe course was also being taken etc. Seems like not much changed. You continue to ridicule Ross and the Brave Truth initiative and attack those who speak out against abuse. Again it seems like not much has changed. Abuse in NZ is ripe with many cases being exposed daily. Professionals are inundated with requests for help. People are waiting months and longer for help. The need is great while there are others who try and minimize and attack those who help. Seems like you want to keep it in your little corner and deal with it in secret. It needs to be dealt with beyond your little circle.
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