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Post by mountain on Jan 3, 2022 4:47:22 GMT -5
You said it Could you be more asinine than you already are? The obvious answer to your question, Wally, is an emphatic 'yes!' You see, there is no foolishness in Speak, so even the display of a teensy weensy bit of foolishness by him would make him more foolish than he actually is (read isn't). If you like we can have a poll on who is the more foolish...you, Speak....or even me? I am confident that I would top that poll by the way, and would be very disappointed if I didn't!
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Post by speak on Jan 3, 2022 15:46:50 GMT -5
Could you be more asinine than you already are? The obvious answer to your question, Wally, is an emphatic 'yes!' You see, there is no foolishness in Speak, so even the display of a teensy weensy bit of foolishness by him would make him more foolish than he actually is (read isn't). If you like we can have a poll on who is the more foolish...you, Speak....or even me? I am confident that I would top that poll by the way, and would be very disappointed if I didn't! The wally is already at the top of the class Mind you there is only one in the class
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Post by speak on Jan 3, 2022 15:53:14 GMT -5
You said it Could you be more asinine than you already are? Well we all can't be as bright as you now can we, we just can't hold a candle to ourselves in your presents. I'm sure you would be right up there in the chief seats with the good old Pharisee you know seeing as they also saw no wrong in themselves either. Matthew 5:22 But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire. Tut tut there oh wise one.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2022 15:58:10 GMT -5
Could you be more asinine than you already are? Well we all can't be as bright as you now can we, we just can't hold a candle to ourselves in your presents. I'm sure you would be right up there in the chief seats with the good old Pharisee you know seeing as they also saw no wrong in themselves either. Matthew 5:22 But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire. Tut tut there oh wise one. Ah back to projection again I see. Between you and me its you that holds the chief seats given your position in the Church, elder. You should take Matt 5 to heart failed elder....tsk tsk
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Post by speak on Jan 3, 2022 16:06:48 GMT -5
Well we all can't be as bright as you now can we, we just can't hold a candle to ourselves in your presents. I'm sure you would be right up there in the chief seats with the good old Pharisee you know seeing as they also saw no wrong in themselves either. Matthew 5:22 But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire. Tut tut there oh wise one. Ah back to projection again I see. Between you and me its you that holds the chief seats given your position in the Church, elder. You should take Matt 5 to heart failed elder....tsk tsk Good projection there the wally
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2022 22:11:35 GMT -5
Ah back to projection again I see. Between you and me its you that holds the chief seats given your position in the Church, elder. You should take Matt 5 to heart failed elder....tsk tsk Good projection there the wally Ah another asinine comment, what's new....
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Post by rudyw on Jun 16, 2022 12:44:43 GMT -5
According to the following Wiki article, house conventicles can be traced all the way back to Jesus and his disciples, who initiated the first house conventicle at the Last Supper. I am particularly interested in Nathan's response to the Conventicles Acts in 1664 in England and Scotland which forbad house conventicles for a period of time, in particular how the act itself forced many ministers and preachers to become homeless and itinerant, going from house to house, sometimes two x two, holding meetings in homes of their followers, also in fields and caves, etc. This was long before Nathan's oft proclaimed Faith Mission or Irvinism. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ConventicleThis is an interesting post. I’m busy today, but am eager to read the Wiki article and see what others posted in this subject!
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Post by mountain on Jun 16, 2022 14:07:15 GMT -5
According to the following Wiki article, house conventicles can be traced all the way back to Jesus and his disciples, who initiated the first house conventicle at the Last Supper. I am particularly interested in Nathan's response to the Conventicles Acts in 1664 in England and Scotland which forbad house conventicles for a period of time, in particular how the act itself forced many ministers and preachers to become homeless and itinerant, going from house to house, sometimes two x two, holding meetings in homes of their followers, also in fields and caves, etc. This was long before Nathan's oft proclaimed Faith Mission or Irvinism. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ConventicleThis is an interesting post. I’m busy today, but am eager to read the Wiki article and see what others posted in this subject! There's nothing new under the sun. Look at the depiction of a conventicle in the Wiki article and note the armed guard standing there. This should silence Wally's detractors for good?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2022 14:49:37 GMT -5
This is an interesting post. I’m busy today, but am eager to read the Wiki article and see what others posted in this subject! There's nothing new under the sun. Look at the depiction of a conventicle in the Wiki article and note the armed guard standing there. This should silence Wally's detractors for good? LOL
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Post by rudyw on Jun 19, 2022 12:02:32 GMT -5
I finally got around to reading the article. I’d never heard the word Conventicles before. There’s no way I’m going to wade through the numerous responses. I’m sure there were many reasons for Conventicles throughout history. I don’t believe this is proof that The Way goes back to Jesus as one continuous movement. But, it does show that those who try to get back to the basics of the Bible are usually persecuted by the established churches. I don’t believe in the Living Witness doctrine. That was all made up by the early workers to cover up Irvine. I believe anyone can return to the Bible way through the Word of God and the Holy Spirit. This article shows independent movements popping up throughout history. I don’t think it shows one continuous stream of Apostolic Succession.
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Post by mountain on Jun 22, 2022 5:44:49 GMT -5
I finally got around to reading the article. I’d never heard the word Conventicles before. There’s no way I’m going to wade through the numerous responses. I’m sure there were many reasons for Conventicles throughout history. I don’t believe this is proof that The Way goes back to Jesus as one continuous movement. But, it does show that those who try to get back to the basics of the Bible are usually persecuted by the established churches. I don’t believe in the Living Witness doctrine. That was all made up by the early workers to cover up Irvine. I believe anyone can return to the Bible way through the Word of God and the Holy Spirit. This article shows independent movements popping up throughout history. I don’t think it shows one continuous stream of Apostolic Succession. What it and other periods in time show, is that persecution is a tool which often forces believers into worshiping in much the same way as the original Christians did. It's a way of resetting the true way.
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Post by magpies39plus on Aug 25, 2022 1:45:55 GMT -5
G'day Mountain. The last supper certainly could not be held in a Synagogue. Passover feasts were in homes. And the early Christians would not have had time to build places of worship,would they? Of course at our Dandenong convention grounds was built with time on land owned by Christian Assemblies of Australia(forgot we were told we were nameless and propertyless,making us sincere liars) they had time in a non hostile City!! But throughout the Centuries Christianity has been the most persecuted religion,still is today.This subject has been a millstone to those of the 2x2 since Irvine founded this doctrine in 1896. Isn't ones personal relationship with God more important,a subject less spoken of at the 2x2 get togethers,have ypu noticed? Magpie
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Post by BobWilliston on Aug 25, 2022 15:41:58 GMT -5
G'day Mountain. The last supper certainly could not be held in a Synagogue. Passover feasts were in homes. And the early Christians would not have had time to build places of worship,would they? Of course at our Dandenong convention grounds was built with time on land owned by Christian Assemblies of Australia(forgot we were told we were nameless and propertyless,making us sincere liars) they had time in a non hostile City!! But throughout the Centuries Christianity has been the most persecuted religion,still is today.This subject has been a millstone to those of the 2x2 since Irvine founded this doctrine in 1896. Isn't ones personal relationship with God more important,a subject less spoken of at the 2x2 get togethers,have ypu noticed? Magpie I dare say the internal persecution among Christians is as great as any persecution from outside Christendom.
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Aug 25, 2022 15:58:45 GMT -5
G'day Mountain. The last supper certainly could not be held in a Synagogue. Passover feasts were in homes. And the early Christians would not have had time to build places of worship,would they? Of course at our Dandenong convention grounds was built with time on land owned by Christian Assemblies of Australia(forgot we were told we were nameless and propertyless,making us sincere liars) they had time in a non hostile City!! But throughout the Centuries Christianity has been the most persecuted religion,still is today.This subject has been a millstone to those of the 2x2 since Irvine founded this doctrine in 1896. Isn't ones personal relationship with God more important,a subject less spoken of at the 2x2 get togethers,have ypu noticed? Magpie I dare say the internal persecution among Christians is as great as any persecution from outside Christendom. It will be interesting to see how the "friends" are treated if Christian Nationalism takes total control of the USA. Will they be ushered to the gas chambers along with anyone that is not as the CN's are. They have been hiding in the shadows for a hundred years. Why would any government take them seriously?
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Post by xna on Aug 25, 2022 17:57:09 GMT -5
It will be interesting to see how the "friends" are treated if Christian Nationalism takes total control of the USA. Will they be ushered to the gas chambers along with anyone that is not as the CN's are. They have been hiding in the shadows for a hundred years. Why would any government take them seriously? How soon we forget not too long ago we had another bigot in office, the ass grabber president. .
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Post by BobWilliston on Aug 25, 2022 18:11:53 GMT -5
I dare say the internal persecution among Christians is as great as any persecution from outside Christendom. It will be interesting to see how the "friends" are treated if Christian Nationalism takes total control of the USA. Will they be ushered to the gas chambers along with anyone that is not as the CN's are. They have been hiding in the shadows for a hundred years. Why would any government take them seriously? I can imagine the 2x2's having problems with them, beginning with the institution of their "domination" over all people/groups who don't accept their dominance. The 2x2's have a history of ambivalence with respect to secular government justice -- I can't see them submitting to sectarian fundamentalist dictates.
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Post by BobWilliston on Aug 25, 2022 18:16:08 GMT -5
It will be interesting to see how the "friends" are treated if Christian Nationalism takes total control of the USA. Will they be ushered to the gas chambers along with anyone that is not as the CN's are. They have been hiding in the shadows for a hundred years. Why would any government take them seriously? How soon we forget not too long ago we had another bigot in office, the ass grabber president. . The good old days, huh?
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Aug 25, 2022 18:18:27 GMT -5
It will be interesting to see how the "friends" are treated if Christian Nationalism takes total control of the USA. Will they be ushered to the gas chambers along with anyone that is not as the CN's are. They have been hiding in the shadows for a hundred years. Why would any government take them seriously? I can imagine the 2x2's having problems with them, beginning with the institution of their "domination" over all people/groups who don't accept their dominance. The 2x2's have a history of ambivalence with respect to secular government justice -- I can't see them submitting to sectarian fundamentalist dictates. A fringe cult group like the 2x2's may be viewed no differently than how Hitler viewed homosexuals, gypsies and jews.
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Post by BobWilliston on Aug 25, 2022 18:24:57 GMT -5
I can imagine the 2x2's having problems with them, beginning with the institution of their "domination" over all people/groups who don't accept their dominance. The 2x2's have a history of ambivalence with respect to secular government justice -- I can't see them submitting to sectarian fundamentalist dictates. A fringe cult group like the 2x2's may be viewed no differently than how Hitler viewed homosexuals, gypsies and jews. Exactly. It's not a stretch at all to expect them to require the style of honor that Hitler required. Their literature tacitly subscribes to Nazi style social order. Their political allies already have been "heiling" their ideological leaders.
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