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Post by verna on Dec 27, 2021 18:17:24 GMT -5
I was blind to my indoctrination. Now I can see. No, you believed it in the past but now you are blind. Contrary to 2x2 opinion, that’s not how it works Nathan.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2021 18:23:48 GMT -5
Denial/de nile isn't just a river in Egypt is it matisse? Like I said before playing ignorant won't help you... Bull Head Is that a selfie you made?
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Post by Annan on Dec 27, 2021 18:29:44 GMT -5
I was blind to my indoctrination. Now I can see. No, you believed it in the past but now you are blind/denied it. It had happened in the 1st century and it will continue in our days.
Heb. 6:4-6 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost, and have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come, if they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame. It's Impossible if they DON'T ever to Repent.... Wally, has reprofessed Twice... so, it is NOT impossible to have people the vision of Truth in Jesus to be RESTORED again. I have heard and met a few people like Wally, myself.
Have you convinced your wife and son to profess yet, Natie? Why have you failed your wife and son, Natie? Why are you okay with them burning in hell for eternity? It seems that if you love them that you would try harder to convince them to profess like you do others here. I realize that as a failed worker that it makes sense that you are a failed husband and father. I feel so deeply sorry for you that you failed. Perhaps you should pray that your god gives you a new family like he did with Job. You seemed to like that story.
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Post by nathan on Dec 27, 2021 18:30:42 GMT -5
No, you believed it in the past but now you are blind. Contrary to 2x2 opinion, that’s not how it works Nathan. It had happened in the 1st century church and it has continued in our days.
Heb. 6:4-6 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost, and have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come, if they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame.
It's Impossible if they DON'T ever to Repent.... Wally, has re-professed Twice... so, it is NOT impossible to have people the vision of Truth in Jesus to be RESTORED again. I have heard and met a few people like Wally, myself.
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Post by nathan on Dec 27, 2021 18:35:17 GMT -5
No, you believed it in the past but now you are blind/denied it. It had happened in the 1st century and it will continue in our days.
Heb. 6:4-6 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost, and have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come, if they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame. It's Impossible if they DON'T ever to Repent.... Wally, has reprofessed Twice... so, it is NOT impossible to have people the vision of Truth in Jesus to be RESTORED again. I have heard and met a few people like Wally, myself.
Have you convinced your wife and son to profess yet, Natie? Why have you failed your wife and son, Natie? Why are you okay with them burning in hell for eternity? It seems that if you love them that you would try harder to convince them to profess like you do others here. I realize that as a failed worker that it makes sense that you are a failed husband and father. I feel so deeply sorry for you that you failed. Perhaps you should pray that your god gives you a new family like he did with Job. You seemed to like that story. As the saying goes you can lead a horse to the water but you can't force it to drink it. Just like your 2x2 parents tried to raise you right, but you turned out to be a Witch. That is your choice NOT theirs. You won the grand PRIZED of a long list failures yourself.
What a Looser, You are a failed witch/daughter of Satan can't get your spell working at all, a failed 2x2, who NEVER profess, a failed wife, a failed mother, a failed Jew, failed human being... that is quite a list of failures for a Witch, much longer than mine.
Hey, Witch take the BEAM out in your own eye before you try to find a mote or faults in other people eyes. You hypocrite, Repent of your wicked ways.
Perhaps, you should pray to God so He will open your eyes and turn to Him instead serving your LORD of Darkness, who leads you ONLY to the Lake of fire for Eternity.
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Post by matisse on Dec 27, 2021 18:47:17 GMT -5
Bull Head Is that a selfie you made? ;) Thanks for asking. No, it's not a selfie it's a bull head that ever-so-slightly resembles Humpty Dumpty on a wall about to fall.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2021 18:50:06 GMT -5
Is that a selfie you made? Thanks for asking. No, it's not a selfie it's a bull head that ever-so-slightly resembles Humpty Dumpty on a wall about to fall. Don't be shy now it is really a selfie isn't it?
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Post by Annan on Dec 27, 2021 18:55:31 GMT -5
Have you convinced your wife and son to profess yet, Natie? Why have you failed your wife and son, Natie? Why are you okay with them burning in hell for eternity? It seems that if you love them that you would try harder to convince them to profess like you do others here. I realize that as a failed worker that it makes sense that you are a failed husband and father. I feel so deeply sorry for you that you failed. Perhaps you should pray that your god gives you a new family like he did with Job. You seemed to like that story. As the saying goes you can lead a horse to the water but you can't force it to drink it. Just like your 2x2 parents they tried to raise you right, but you turned out to be a Witch. That is your choice NOT theirs. You won the grand PRIZED of a long list failures.
What a Looser, You are a failed witch/daughter of Satan can't get your spell working at all, a failed 2x2, who NEVER profess, a failed wife, a failed mother, a failed Jew, failed human being... that is quite a list of failures for a Witch, much longer than mine.
Hey, Witch take the BEAM out in your own eye before you try to find a mote or faults in other people eyes. You hypocrite, Repent of your wicked ways.
Perhaps, you should pray to God so He will open your eyes and turn to Him instead serving your LORD of Darkness, who leads you ONLY to the Lake of fire for Eternity.
Hahaha... You are a hoot, Natie! The difference between the two of us is that I am not a failed worker who can't even convince his own family to profess. Speaks volumes, Natie. Perhaps instead of spending all your time on the internet trying to prove how right you are about everything and how wrong we are, you should spend your time with your family telling them to repent of their wicked ways! You keep telling us how your god feels about unbelievers. You have led us to water and none of us are thirsty for your delusions and lies. As someone said here, you are the biggest destroyer of the 2x2 cult. Of course that could be looked at as a blessing. Perhaps you should pray that god gives you a new family like he did with Job. That would solve your problem. You seemed to enjoy arguing that story, especially the part about Job's unbelieving family and the need for them to be killed. If god is willing to do that for Job, I'm sure he could do the same for you. I mean according to you, miracles still exist, right? Think of all the bragging you could do if god gave you a professing family! Of course, one you started with your space boy spiff crap, your god might have to do away with them too. Oh dear!
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Post by nathan on Dec 27, 2021 19:05:40 GMT -5
As the saying goes you can lead a horse to the water but you can't force it to drink it. Just like your 2x2 parents they tried to raise you right, but you turned out to be a Witch. That is your choice NOT theirs. You won the grand PRIZED of a long list failures.
What a Looser, You are a failed witch/daughter of Satan can't get your spell working at all, a failed 2x2, who NEVER profess, a failed wife, a failed mother, a failed Jew, failed human being... that is quite a list of failures for a Witch, much longer than mine.
Hey, Witch take the BEAM out in your own eye before you try to find a mote or faults in other people eyes. You hypocrite, Repent of your wicked ways.
Perhaps, you should pray to God so He will open your eyes and turn to Him instead serving your LORD of Darkness, who leads you ONLY to the Lake of fire for Eternity.
Hahaha... You are a hoot, Natie! The difference between the two of us is that I am not a failed worker who can't even convince his own family to profess. Speaks volumes, Natie. Perhaps instead of spending all your time on the internet trying to prove how right you are about everything and how wrong we are, you should spend your time with your family telling them to repent of their wicked ways! You keep telling us how your god feels about unbelievers. You have led us to water and none of us are thirsty for your delusions and lies. As someone said here, you are the biggest destroyer of the 2x2 cult. Of course that could be looked at as a blessing. Perhaps you should pray that god gives you a new family like he did with Job. That would solve your problem. You seemed to enjoy arguing that story, especially the part about Job's unbelieving family and the need for them to be killed. If god is willing to do that for Job, I'm sure he could do the same for you. I mean according to you, miracles still exist, right? Think of all the bragging you could do if god gave you a professing family! Of course, one you started with your space boy spiff crap, your god might have to do away with them too. Oh dear! Just think if you had professed as a 2x2 you could have convinced/saved your parents to stay professing. Oh, Sweetie. You blew it.
Don't worry my God is working with my family behind the scene, this is NOT over yet, Witch. I just keep TRUE to God and I let Him work with my family within the hearts. God wants people wants to serve Him by LOVE not by FORCE.
I do what I can and leave the rest in God's hands. For you there is very little hope for you and your parents. Hey, if you change your way, you might be able to help them to return to Way and Truth of Jesus.
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Post by Annan on Dec 27, 2021 19:13:06 GMT -5
Hahaha... You are a hoot, Natie! The difference between the two of us is that I am not a failed worker who can't even convince his own family to profess. Speaks volumes, Natie. Perhaps instead of spending all your time on the internet trying to prove how right you are about everything and how wrong we are, you should spend your time with your family telling them to repent of their wicked ways! You keep telling us how your god feels about unbelievers. You have led us to water and none of us are thirsty for your delusions and lies. As someone said here, you are the biggest destroyer of the 2x2 cult. Of course that could be looked at as a blessing. Perhaps you should pray that god gives you a new family like he did with Job. That would solve your problem. You seemed to enjoy arguing that story, especially the part about Job's unbelieving family and the need for them to be killed. If god is willing to do that for Job, I'm sure he could do the same for you. I mean according to you, miracles still exist, right? Think of all the bragging you could do if god gave you a professing family! Of course, one you started with your space boy spiff crap, your god might have to do away with them too. Oh dear! Just think if you had professed as a 2x2 you could have convinced/saved your parents to stay professing. Oh, Sweetie. You blew it.
Don't worry my God is working with my family behind the scene, this is NOT over yet, Witch. I just keep TRUE to God and I let Him work with my family within the hearts. God wants people wants to serve Him by LOVE not by FORCE.
I do what I can and leave the rest in God's hands. For you there is very little hope for you and your parents. Hey, if you change your way, you might be able to help them to return to Way and Truth of Jesus.
Then why do you constantly FORCE your beliefs down our throats? You, sir, know nothing of love. Your posts are very evident of that. Hasn't the last 20+ years here taught you anything? No one believes your crap. How many have professed under you, failed worker?
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Post by nathan on Dec 27, 2021 19:18:14 GMT -5
Just think if you had professed as a 2x2 you could have convinced/saved your parents to stay professing. Oh, Sweetie. You blew it.
Don't worry my God is working with my family behind the scene, this is NOT over yet, Witch. I just keep TRUE to God and I let Him work with my family within the hearts. God wants people wants to serve Him by LOVE not by FORCE.
I do what I can and leave the rest in God's hands. For you there is very little hope for you and your parents. Hey, if you change your way, you might be able to help them to return to Way and Truth of Jesus.
Then why do you constantly FORCE your beliefs down our throats? You, sir, know nothing of love. Your posts are very evident of that. Hasn't the last 20+ years here taught you anything? No one believes your crap. How many have professed under you, failed worker? NOT force just a Reminder. You and your buddies keep on resisting like Pit Bulls, biting, tearing Wally, me and those like us to pieces. Here are some of the examples..1) jetmech said two weeks before he died in 2021. From what I've read, Roselyn, Jesus will come back like a thief in the night … no one knows when a thief in the night will be coming nor from what direction, nor to what location, etc. So, I can't say one way or the other. I can't outright say my friend is wrong about the Venus; With that said, I believe too many times different ones on this board are tergiversatious in their thinking and communicating. Ever tried to hold a conversation with a tergiversate? You're wasting your time, because the tergiversate will NEVER agree with you on anything, and that's the very basis of being a tergiversate … never to agree, always to debate … it's a 'condition.' I admire Nathan, especially since he's an Asian, because he understands the English language as well as he does, and I admire the detail at which he understands biblical ideas and concepts after having grown up in Vietnam and moved to the USA and obviously self-taught himself so many things about our culture, adopting our ideas, and taking these things on himself. I don't agree with every little thing Nathan says; but, I can say honestly, I've learned more from Nathan about the Bible than I learned in gospel meeting during my entire childhood and adult life - before I met him on the board.
I believe if the tergiversates who constantly feign disagreement with Nate as a reason to constantly reply negative, would step back, take a breath, pause and contemplate, and "listen to understand" rather than "listen to reply" … they'd see many things to admire Nathan about. 7/24/2021 Dan from TMB said: It makes no sense to criticize someone for something you have never done. Many people that offer for the Work don't stay in for life, but one should respect the effort and self-sacrifice regardless. One of my sisters did 15 years in the Work, she helped and encouraged a lot of people prior to leaving and getting married. Its not an easy thing, anyone with the faith to tackle it ought to be commended. Its easy to throw stones from the cheap seats on the sideline, but its important to recognize and appreciate those who contributed something of which we were incapable or unwilling to do ourselves. Nathan has obviously not lost his zest for spreading the gospel, whether one agrees with everything or not. Hope everyone can disagree without attacking?
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Post by Annan on Dec 27, 2021 19:23:02 GMT -5
Then why do you constantly FORCE your beliefs down our throats? You, sir, know nothing of love. Your posts are very evident of that. Hasn't the last 20+ years here taught you anything? No one believes your crap. How many have professed under you, failed worker? NOT force just a Reminder. You and your buddies keep on resisting like Pit Bulls, biting, tearing things to pieces.
So I ask again... How many have professed under you, failed worker?
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Post by nathan on Dec 27, 2021 19:29:18 GMT -5
NOT force just a Reminder. You and your buddies keep on resisting like Pit Bulls, biting, tearing things to pieces.
So I ask again... How many have professed under you, failed worker? I believe so..... I have known him for 20 years on TMB. I have talked to him on the phones many times during those 20 years, and send many Private messages on TMB. It says heaven rejoice over 1 sinner that repented, that is good wouldn't you say?
1) jetmech wrote this two weeks before he died in 2021. From what I've read, Roselyn, Jesus will come back like a thief in the night … no one knows when a thief in the night will be coming nor from what direction, nor to what location, etc. So, I can't say one way or the other. I can't outright say my friend is wrong about the Venus; With that said, I believe too many times different ones on this board are tergiversatious in their thinking and communicating. Ever tried to hold a conversation with a tergiversate? You're wasting your time, because the tergiversate will NEVER agree with you on anything, and that's the very basis of being a tergiversate … never to agree, always to debate … it's a 'condition.' I admire Nathan, especially since he's an Asian, because he understands the English language as well as he does, and I admire the detail at which he understands biblical ideas and concepts after having grown up in Vietnam and moved to the USA and obviously self-taught himself so many things about our culture, adopting our ideas, and taking these things on himself. I don't agree with every little thing Nathan says; but, I can say honestly, I've learned more from Nathan about the Bible than I learned in gospel meeting during my entire childhood and adult life - before I met him on the board.
I believe if the tergiversates who constantly feign disagreement with Nate as a reason to constantly reply negative, would step back, take a breath, pause and contemplate, and "listen to understand" rather than "listen to reply" … they'd see many things to admire Nathan about.
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Post by nathan on Dec 27, 2021 19:37:32 GMT -5
1) 6/17/19 Mountain/RAM wrote:
Anyway, I have to say that you are a very hard man to fool, Nathan. You meticulously research anything before you will believe it as fact. Such screening makes it very difficult to convince you of anything. I'm sure many on this board will share my views regarding your proneness to detail and doubting. Therefore I would strongly advise anyone who doubts anything that you post, that they likewise venture on the quest of meticulous research before doing so. You've set the standard. Let others follow. Just as the gondolier seldom encounters rabbits in his pathway, so too let your detractors encounter discrepancy with what you present as genuine.
Consider Nathan. An extremely intelligent character, who carries out meticulous research before presenting his views on here. Basically he is second to none. Have you noticed that there are several atheists on this board and every time Nathan engages them he wipes the floor with their arguments. Have you ever considered that these atheists are mere concoctions of Nathan, whom he shoots down time and again with his views, leaving himself the master of the debate. Generally there is no contest. Nathan wins hands down every time. They have no answer to him. Have you ever wondered why that is?
2) Ram/Mountain wrote in 6/25/21
Firstly, I do not want anyone to jump to the conclusion that I am supporting or encouraging Nathan! I have had my differences and dare I say heated exchanges with this dear fellow over the years. Nevertheless I do insist on a fair and unbalanced approach. I seek this from others, often unsuccessfully, in my exchanges, but do seek to extend this principle to others and that includes Nathan.
Secondly, Nathan has received much criticism and ridicule for his beliefs on this board and most recently on this thread. Such things are fair in my opinion if they are deserved, especially when a person brings it upon themselves. However, in assessing the merits of the case I always look at the evidence with an open mind in a fair, balanced way without showing fear, favour, malice, ill will to anyone. It was part of my training. I go where the evidence, properly viewed, leads me.
Much has been alleged about 'ridiculous statements' made by Nathan, but I look for the supporting evidence and I am at a loss to see even one, yes even one, carefully prepared, competent rebuttal of even one of his statements. Plenty of emotion, opinion, bias, beliefs, etc., but yet not a single properly constructed opposing viewpoint, sufficient in its content, to devour what Nathan expresses. That such arguments may be able to be prepared is not the issue. I simply await their presentation. I am not rejecting any statement made against Nathan, I merely ask for proper support for the various positions claimed.
I too used to, almost impulsively jump in and challenge some of Nathan's offerings. Take the occasion, some time ago now, when Nathan clearly stated for all to see, that the NAZIs had secret, even top secret bases in occupied Europe during the Second World War.
Initially I found such ideas amusing to say the least, and thankfully I remained quiet with this one, rather than jump in and challenge it, because not long afterwards I came across other verifiable sources fully supporting the claims that Nathan had made. The NAZIs did indeed have secret bases in occupied Europe during the Second World War, even top secret ones. This makes one careful, very careful, about being too swift to challenge such matters in the future, especially from the same source. Egg on the face to RAM (as it was then). That's not happening again!
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Post by Annan on Dec 27, 2021 19:40:10 GMT -5
You sure love to praise yourself, Natie.
Answer the question, please. How many have professed under you, failed worker?
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Post by nathan on Dec 27, 2021 19:54:18 GMT -5
Just think if you had professed as a 2x2 you could have convinced/saved your parents to stay professing. Oh, Sweetie. You blew it.
Don't worry my God is working with my family behind the scene, this is NOT over yet, Witch. I just keep TRUE to God and I let Him work with my family within the hearts. God wants people wants to serve Him by LOVE not by FORCE.
I do what I can and leave the rest in God's hands. For you there is very little hope for you and your parents. Hey, if you change your way, you might be able to help them to return to Way and Truth of Jesus.
Then why do you constantly FORCE your beliefs down our throats? You, sir, know nothing of love. Your posts are very evident of that. Hasn't the last 20+ years here taught you anything? No one believes your crap. How many have professed under you, failed worker? Many people believe what I wrote NOT on all of the topics but some...
~~ SharonW. wrote in 2018: You're absolutely right, Nathan! Jesus, God the Son is such an awesome Almighty One! It still amazes me to think I'd gone nearly 60 yrs. reading the bible very faithfully and NEVER got that for myself! Strange that, eh? I pray for those in the fellowship still, that they can come to that maturity of understanding about our Beloved Lord! I think that they are missing something totally OUT OF THIS WORLD! Simply because the majority of them have LITTLE idea about who Jesus really is! O What A Savior! I had hardly ever heard of the concept except in a table discussion back when I was about 4 or 5 yrs. old. A number of workers and our family sharing a meal together. My Gram having been raised a Baptist, knew what the Trinity concept was. It was brought into discussion and the older workers exclaimed that the doctrine was a heresy! I never heard of the concept again until coming on TMB. Nathan wrote an extensive explanation with scripture backing of what the Trinity means and is...it was almost beyond my comprehension! I became troubled that this was beyond my comprehension so much so, that I prayed to God that "IF HE thought it necessary for me to understand the Trinity, then would HE PLEASE reveal it to me." I left it there and after some time, it begin to come to me at another time of prayer like a light from heaven! The joy of that understanding of my Lord is beyond another imagination, comprehension.... YES! God revealed it to me! Jesus is the most wonderful awesome King of Kings and Lord of Lords and HE died for me! Hallelujah! And I was professing when this happened!
I believed in the Trinity while I was still professing! After I'd studied Jesus Christ for about 3 years and had some long arguments with Nathan and Stanne here on TMB with Scott sometimes putting a bit of information in the kettle, I had to realize that all that Nathan and Stanne were saying about the Trinity was definitely in the bible even thought the word "Trinity" wasn't! As time passed and more realization of what the Trinity was all about, and I'll say we that do believe are always gaining more insight into it as we go on and maturity of using the word of God (the bible) feeding on the "meat of the word" that it is certainly like most of mankind throughout the ages that as each generation lives and dies the more understanding of the heavenly God has come into the minds of that generation. So I feel that ignorance and misunderstanding is what's keeping most in the 2x2 from accepting or knowing the Trinity= Triune God concept!
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Post by nathan on Dec 27, 2021 19:55:10 GMT -5
You sure love to praise yourself, Natie. Answer the question, please. How many have professed under you, failed worker? Hey, you want proof so, I just show it what you asked for, Sweetie. The good seeds have been sown in their hearts, God gives them life... I might NOT live to see the results in this life but eternity God will reveal it to me and I will meet them in persons and I get the place where you stay and I send you the results some how, Ok.
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Post by Annan on Dec 27, 2021 20:02:36 GMT -5
You sure love to praise yourself, Natie. Answer the question, please. How many have professed under you, failed worker? Hey, you want proof so, I just show it what you asked for, Sweetie. The good seeds have been sown in their hearts, God gives them life... I might NOT live to see the results in this life but eternity God will reveal it to me and I will meet them in persons.So the answer is no one has professed under you, failed worker. Not even your own family. Your god must be very disappointed in you.
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Post by nathan on Dec 27, 2021 20:10:21 GMT -5
Hey, you want proof so, I just show it what you asked for, Sweetie. The good seeds have been sown in their hearts, God gives them life... I might NOT live to see the results in this life but eternity God will reveal it to me and I will meet them in persons. So the answer is no one has professed under you, failed worker. Not even your own family. Your god must be very disappointed in you. I don't test the meeting on TMB for 20 years so, I don't KNOW how many, Sweetie. ONLY in Eternity God will reveal it to me and I will meet them in persons. God will give me the location where you stay and I try to send you the results some how, my dear.
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Post by Annan on Dec 27, 2021 21:05:04 GMT -5
So the answer is no one has professed under you, failed worker. Not even your own family. Your god must be very disappointed in you. I don't test the meeting on TMB for 20 years so, I don't KNOW how many, Sweetie. ONLY in Eternity God will reveal it to me and I will meet them in persons. God will give me the location where you stay and I try to send you the results some how, my dear.So again, no one has professed under you.
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Post by nathan on Dec 27, 2021 21:22:42 GMT -5
I don't test the meeting on TMB for 20 years so, I don't KNOW how many, Sweetie. ONLY in Eternity God will reveal it to me and I will meet them in persons. God will give me the location where you stay and I try to send you the results some how, my dear. So again, no one has professed under you. Are you playing the DUMB Blondie game again? Repeating/playing the same stupid broken record question over and over again.
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Post by Annan2 on Dec 27, 2021 21:28:48 GMT -5
So again, no one has professed under you. Are you playing the DUMB Blondie game again? Repeating/playing the same stupid broken record question over and over again.Why are you avoiding answering over and over, Natie? So no one professed under you, failed worker? Considering you can’t even convinced your own family, it makes sense now.
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Post by nathan on Dec 27, 2021 21:33:13 GMT -5
Are you playing the DUMB Blondie game again? Repeating/playing the same stupid broken record question over and over again. Why are you avoiding answering over and over, Natie? So no one professed under you, failed worker? Considering you can’t even convinced your own family, it makes sense now. I already told you Dumb blondie.... Jetmech... In Matthew 10 Jesus said he that receiveth you, receiveth me, and he that receive me, receiveth Him that Sent me. 1) jetmech said two weeks before he died in 2021.
From what I've read, Roselyn, Jesus will come back like a thief in the night … no one knows when a thief in the night will be coming nor from what direction, nor to what location, etc. So, I can't say one way or the other. I can't outright say my friend is wrong about the Venus; With that said, I believe too many times different ones on this board are tergiversatious in their thinking and communicating. Ever tried to hold a conversation with a tergiversate? You're wasting your time, because the tergiversate will NEVER agree with you on anything, and that's the very basis of being a tergiversate … never to agree, always to debate … it's a 'condition.'
I admire Nathan, especially since he's an Asian, because he understands the English language as well as he does, and I admire the detail at which he understands biblical ideas and concepts after having grown up in Vietnam and moved to the USA and obviously self-taught himself so many things about our culture, adopting our ideas, and taking these things on himself. I don't agree with every little thing Nathan says; but, I can say honestly, I've learned more from Nathan about the Bible than I learned in gospel meeting during my entire childhood and adult life - before I met him on the board.
I believe if the tergiversates who constantly feign disagreement with Nate as a reason to constantly reply negative, would step back, take a breath, pause and contemplate, and "listen to understand" rather than "listen to reply" … they'd see many things to admire Nathan about. Witch, You better work on your own Salvation and profess, then after that work on your ex-2x2 parents before it too late for them and you.
You should try to take Jetmech's advice and don't be a Tergiversate. "Ever tried to hold a conversation with a tergiversate? You're wasting your time, because the tergiversate will NEVER agree with you on anything, and that's the very basis of being a tergiversate … never to agree, always to debate … it's a 'condition.'
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2021 21:41:12 GMT -5
Are you playing the DUMB Blondie game again? Repeating/playing the same stupid broken record question over and over again. Why are you avoiding answering over and over, Natie? So no one professed under you, failed worker? Considering you can’t even convinced your own family, it makes sense now. Have you convinced everyone in your own family to be a witch/wiccan? if not why not? failed witch, a failed wife, a failed mother, a failed Jew, failed human being.
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Post by nathan on Dec 27, 2021 21:46:40 GMT -5
Why are you avoiding answering over and over, Natie? So no one professed under you, failed worker? Considering you can’t even convinced your own family, it makes sense now. Have you convinced everyone in your own family to be a witch/wiccan? if not why not? failed witch, a failed wife, a failed mother, a failed Jew, failed human being. Her parents, children, husband, son-in-law, probably said "HELL, NO! Witch."
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Post by Annan on Dec 28, 2021 9:01:26 GMT -5
So the bottom line is that no one has ever professed under you, Natie. Seems all your threats of hellfire are for naught. You need to find another tactic.
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Post by Annan on Dec 28, 2021 12:30:57 GMT -5
Have you convinced everyone in your own family to be a witch/wiccan? if not why not? failed witch, a failed wife, a failed mother, a failed Jew, failed human being. Her parents, children, husband, son-in-law, probably said "HELL, NO! Witch." My ex son-in-law is southern Baptist. That says it all. Haha... My husband was raised Lutheran, but I have no clue what he believes. His faith is his alone. He supports me and all I do and in what I believe because he has seen the proof in the pudding. My children are both atheist, so I think I would rather did a good job with them. My mother was never a cult member. My father is no longer a cult member as it hurt him deeply when he found out they lied about their origins. And when the workers were questioned by my father, they admitted the lie. So tell me again how many professed under you, Natie. Nada. Zero. You can’t even convince your own wife and son to profess. Eight years a worker and twenty years spewing your ugliness and threats on the internet have yielded no fruit. Your wine is cut off and withered, Natie. Time to give it up. You are a pathetic failure laid bare for all to see.
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Post by intelchips on Dec 28, 2021 12:40:12 GMT -5
Her parents, children, husband, son-in-law, probably said "HELL, NO! Witch." My ex son-in-law is southern Baptist. That says it all. Haha... My husband was raised Lutheran, but I have no clue what he believes. His faith is his alone. He supports me and all I do and in what I believe because he has seen the proof in the pudding. My children are both atheist, so I think I would rather did a good job with them. My mother was never a cult member. My father is no longer a cult member as it hurt him deeply when he found out they lied about their origins. And when the workers were questioned by my father, they admitted the lie. So tell me again how many professed under you, Natie. Nada. Zero. You can’t even convince your own wife and son to profess. Eight years a worker and twenty years spewing your ugliness and threats on the internet have yielded no fruit. Your wine is cut off and withered, Natie. Time to give it up. You are a pathetic failure laid bare for all to see. Annan could you perhaps gives us a glance of the dialog of that exchange?
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