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Post by matisse on Dec 27, 2021 10:02:13 GMT -5
The point is that you and your pal wally read things into the scriptures when you feel like it. Cessationism is NOT discussed in detail by Jesus or anyone in the Bible, yet Wally feels comfortable inventing an explanation for why there are no miracles in modern times that is not Biblical. I don't give two hoots how many people are or are not in the story you are arguing about. And if someone wants to see a possibility that there were more people present than you think, who are you to argue otherwise?
I can post whenever I like on any thread. What is true, is that you and wally don't hesitate to read things into the scripture that are not specified whenever you feel like it. When someone else does it, you cry foul. Do you know what that makes the two of you? hint: Rhymes with typocrites
And come to think of it, "typocrite" is a great term to describe wally! |
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Post by nathan on Dec 27, 2021 10:17:39 GMT -5
If you don't give a hoot then you shouldn't have jumped in and say something isn't true or you need to back it up with the scriptures what you believe are true, because people will ask you to prove or show to them on here.
I can post whenever I like on any thread. What is true, is that you and wally don't hesitate to read things into the scripture that are not specified whenever you feel like it. When someone else does it, you cry foul. Do you know what that makes the two of you? hint: Rhymes with typocrites
And come to think of it, "typocrite" is a great term to describe wally!
These things are very serious because it has to deal where people live for eternity, NOT something to take it lightly or thinking it as a game. Jesus didn't come down from heaven and died for our sins just for the fun of it. He didn't want any of us ended up in the WRONG place for eternity, which is very horrible.
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Post by matisse on Dec 27, 2021 10:40:50 GMT -5
I can post whenever I like on any thread. What is true, is that you and wally don't hesitate to read things into the scripture that are not specified whenever you feel like it. When someone else does it, you cry foul. Do you know what that makes the two of you? hint: Rhymes with typocrites
And come to think of it, "typocrite" is a great term to describe wally!
These things are very serious because it has to deal where people live for eternity, NOT something to take it lightly or thinking it as a game. Jesus didn't come down from heaven and died for our sins just for the fun of it. He didn't want any of us ended up in the WRONG place for eternity, which is very horrible.
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Post by Annan on Dec 27, 2021 10:45:07 GMT -5
I can post whenever I like on any thread. What is true, is that you and wally don't hesitate to read things into the scripture that are not specified whenever you feel like it. When someone else does it, you cry foul. Do you know what that makes the two of you? hint: Rhymes with typocrites
And come to think of it, "typocrite" is a great term to describe wally!
These things are very serious because it has to deal where people live for eternity, NOT something to take it lightly or thinking it as a game. Jesus didn't come down from heaven and died for our sins just for the fun of it. He didn't want any of us ended up in the WRONG place for eternity, which is very horrible.
Good grief! Now I am in league with the two of them! *gasp* |
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Post by matisse on Dec 27, 2021 10:47:00 GMT -5
Well, you can do whatever you want... but people like the Witch, Wally, and me will ask you to PUT up or SHUT up. You don't want to post things are untrue and try to lead people in the wrong way or thinking because their Salvation depend on it for eternity.
These things are very serious because it has to deal where people live for eternity, NOT something to take it lightly or thinking it as a game. Jesus didn't come down from heaven and died for our sins just for the fun of it. He didn't want any of us ended up in the WRONG place for eternity, which is very horrible.
Good grief! Now I am in league with the two of them! *gasp* lol! |
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Post by nathan on Dec 27, 2021 10:58:13 GMT -5
Well, you can do whatever you want... but people like the Witch, Wally, and me will ask you to PUT up or SHUT up. You don't want to post things are untrue and try to lead people in the wrong way or thinking because their Salvation depend on it for eternity.
These things are very serious because it has to deal where people live for eternity, NOT something to take it lightly or thinking it as a game. Jesus didn't come down from heaven and died for our sins just for the fun of it. He didn't want any of us ended up in the WRONG place for eternity, which is very horrible.
Good grief! Now I am in league with the two of them! *gasp*
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2021 14:20:47 GMT -5
You said it so prove it.... Like the Witch likes to say Put up or shut up! Verses please so, we can check it out to see you didn't take things out of context. The point is that you and your pal wally read things into the scriptures when you feel like it. Cessationism is NOT discussed in detail by Jesus or anyone in the Bible, yet Wally feels comfortable inventing an explanation for why there are no miracles in modern times that is not Biblical. I don't give two hoots how many people are or are not in the story you are arguing about. And if someone wants to see a possibility that there were more people present than you think, who are you to argue otherwise? Uh oh I found this.... 1Co 13:8 Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away. Show me since the 1st century in detail anyone raised from the dead, anyone healed, anyone that used prophecy and was right that wasn't regurgitating something already prophesied, drank poison and lived etc...etc.., List the names please.... |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2021 14:21:13 GMT -5
If you don't give a hoot then you shouldn't have jumped in and say something isn't true or you need to back it up with the scriptures what you believe are true, because people will ask you to prove or show to them on here.
I can post whenever I like on any thread. What is true, is that you and wally don't hesitate to read things into the scripture that are not specified whenever you feel like it. When someone else does it, you cry foul. Do you know what that makes the two of you? hint: Rhymes with typocrites
And come to think of it, "typocrite" is a great term to describe wally!List the names please... |
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Post by matisse on Dec 27, 2021 16:04:41 GMT -5
The point is that you and your pal wally read things into the scriptures when you feel like it. Cessationism is NOT discussed in detail by Jesus or anyone in the Bible, yet Wally feels comfortable inventing an explanation for why there are no miracles in modern times that is not Biblical. I don't give two hoots how many people are or are not in the story you are arguing about. And if someone wants to see a possibility that there were more people present than you think, who are you to argue otherwise? Uh oh I found this.... 1Co 13:8 Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away. Show me since the 1st century in detail anyone raised from the dead, anyone healed, anyone that used prophecy and was right that wasn't regurgitating something already prophesied, drank poison and lived etc...etc.., List the names please.... I don't think any of the stories about miracles are true. I don't think any of them ever happened. There wasn't anything to "cease". You believe the bible stories about miracles, and have to invent the extra-biblical "cessationism" to explain why miracles don't happen today. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2021 16:06:34 GMT -5
Uh oh I found this.... 1Co 13:8 Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away. Show me since the 1st century in detail anyone raised from the dead, anyone healed, anyone that used prophecy and was right that wasn't regurgitating something already prophesied, drank poison and lived etc...etc.., List the names please.... I don't think any of the stories about miracles are true. I don't think any of them ever happened. There wasn't anything to "cease". You believe the bible stories about miracles, and have to invent the extra-biblical "cessationism" to explain why miracles don't happen today. There are none so blind as an atheist.... Nothing "extra-biblical" about scripture... List the names please.... |
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Post by matisse on Dec 27, 2021 16:14:52 GMT -5
I don't think any of the stories about miracles are true. I don't think any of them ever happened. There wasn't anything to "cease". You believe the bible stories about miracles, and have to invent the extra-biblical "cessationism" to explain why miracles don't happen today. There are none so blind as an atheist.... Nothing "extra-biblical" about scripture... List the names please.... People, imo, who performed miracles -since the 1st century: nobody -during the 1st century: nobody -before the 1st century: nobody Your scripture is a very big stretch. I do not see anything close to a detailed explanation of "cessationism". |
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Post by nathan on Dec 27, 2021 16:23:48 GMT -5
I don't think any of the stories about miracles are true. I don't think any of them ever happened. There wasn't anything to "cease". You believe the bible stories about miracles, and have to invent the extra-biblical "cessationism" to explain why miracles don't happen today. There are none so blind as an atheist.... Nothing "extra-biblical" about scripture... List the names please....
The final test of the them ALL that God the Father raise Jesus from the dead to prove to all mankind He is the Anointed Messiah the Sacrificial Lamb of God to die and Redeem from their sins and he is about to come back to establish His eternal kingdom on earth and the Universe as King of kings and LORD of lords with the people whom he had chosen the last 6000 years from the Old and New Testament era.
Jesus had proven and fulfilled His messiahship with MANY miracles during His 3 1/2 ministry. Many believed in him, so now we don't need anyone to prove that Jesus the Messiah with miracles. Yes, God can heal people today!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2021 16:27:59 GMT -5
There are none so blind as an atheist.... Nothing "extra-biblical" about scripture... List the names please.... People, imo, who performed miracles -since the 1st century: nobody -during the 1st century: nobody -before the 1st century: nobody Your scripture is a very big stretch. I do not see anything close to a detailed explanation of "cessationism". Nevertheless the scripture is there for at least 2 aspects of miracles/gifts ending. List the names please.... |
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Post by nathan on Dec 27, 2021 16:31:15 GMT -5
People, imo, who performed miracles -since the 1st century: nobody -during the 1st century: nobody -before the 1st century: nobody Your scripture is a very big stretch. I do not see anything close to a detailed explanation of "cessationism". Nevertheless the scripture is there for at least 2 aspects of miracles/gifts ending. List the names please....
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2021 16:36:12 GMT -5
Nevertheless the scripture is there for at least 2 aspects of miracles/gifts ending. List the names please....
Yep for sure and for certain...she is also trying to hijack what was currently being talked about.... |
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Post by matisse on Dec 27, 2021 16:38:55 GMT -5
People, imo, who performed miracles -since the 1st century: nobody -during the 1st century: nobody -before the 1st century: nobody Your scripture is a very big stretch. I do not see anything close to a detailed explanation of "cessationism". Nevertheless the scripture is there for at least 2 aspects of miracles/gifts ending. List the names please.... I have no idea what you are talking about. Again, IMO, the stories of miracles along with probably all of the other stories in the New Testament are made up. |
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Post by nathan on Dec 27, 2021 16:41:49 GMT -5
Matisse, doesn't have the scriptures to back it up and she KNOWS it, Wally.
Yep for sure and for certain...she is also trying to hijack what was currently being talked about.... |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2021 16:43:16 GMT -5
Nevertheless the scripture is there for at least 2 aspects of miracles/gifts ending. List the names please.... I have no idea what you are talking about. Again, IMO, the stories of miracles along with probably all of the other stories in the New Testament are made up. Nice dodge claiming ignorance won't help you though... List the names please.... |
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Post by nathan on Dec 27, 2021 16:46:14 GMT -5
Nevertheless the scripture is there for at least 2 aspects of miracles/gifts ending. List the names please.... I have no idea what you are talking about. Again, IMO, the stories of miracles along with probably all of the other stories in the New Testament are made up.
If the miracles were made up then how was Jesus alive After the Romans soldier had pierced his side and died. Then after 3 days Jesus came back he talked, ate with the apostles and 500 disciples for 40 days before He returns to heaven.... and He appeared to John the apostle in 95 A.D. and took him to heaven and show him many events in the future about to happen.
If Jesus was dead, then WHY, would he promised to come back again as KING of kings to rule and reign on the earth.
Would you confess Jesus is the Christ and Savior if you were alive when He returns? |
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Post by matisse on Dec 27, 2021 17:05:45 GMT -5
I have no idea what you are talking about. Again, IMO, the stories of miracles along with probably all of the other stories in the New Testament are made up. Nice dodge claiming ignorance won't help you though... List the names please.... There are none, wally. Give it up. Cessationism is only a thing to Christian Apologists like "GotQuestions" and you who are compelled to explain why Jesus and the Apostles could supposedly perform miracles and Christians today cannot. I have no such cognitive dissonance to resolve. It's all yours. |
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Post by matisse on Dec 27, 2021 17:08:58 GMT -5
I have no idea what you are talking about. Again, IMO, the stories of miracles along with probably all of the other stories in the New Testament are made up.
If the miracles were made up then how was Jesus alive After the Romans soldier had pierced his side and died. Then after 3 days Jesus came back he talked, ate with the apostles and 500 disciples for 40 days before He returns to heaven.... and He appeared to John the apostle in 95 A.D. and took him to heaven and show him many events in the future about to happen.
If Jesus was dead, then WHY, would he promised to come back again as KING of kings to rule and reign on the earth.
Would you confess Jesus is the Christ and Savior if you were alive when He returns?It's Mythology, Nathan, about a God and a belief system that grew out of Polytheistic Pagan Mythology. |
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Post by nathan on Dec 27, 2021 17:14:56 GMT -5
Coming back from the dead is one of the GREATEST miracle of them all.
If the miracles were made up then how was Jesus alive After the Romans soldier had pierced his side and died. Then after 3 days Jesus came back he talked, ate with the apostles and 500 disciples for 40 days before He returns to heaven.... and He appeared to John the apostle in 95 A.D. and took him to heaven and show him many events in the future about to happen.
If Jesus was dead, then WHY, would he promised to come back again as KING of kings to rule and reign on the earth.
Would you confess Jesus is the Christ and Savior if you were alive when He returns? It's Mythology, Nathan, about a God and a belief system that grew out of Polytheistic Pagan Mythology.
Godhead= Father, Christ and Holy Spirit are ETERNAL then how the Godhead came out Polytheistic pagan Mythology when they didn't exist 6000 years ago.
Your belief doesn't make any sense, the timing is way off.
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Post by matisse on Dec 27, 2021 17:23:26 GMT -5
It's Mythology, Nathan, about a God and a belief system that grew out of Polytheistic Pagan Mythology.
Godhead= Father, Christ and Holy Spirit are ETERNAL then how the Godhead came out Polytheistic pagan Mythology when they didn't exist 6000 years ago.
Your belief doesn't make any sense, the timing if way off.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2021 17:24:58 GMT -5
Nice dodge claiming ignorance won't help you though... List the names please.... There are none, wally. Give it up. Cessationism is only a thing to Christian Apologists like "GotQuestions" and you who are compelled to explain why Jesus and the Apostles could supposedly perform miracles and Christians today cannot. I have no such cognitive dissonance to resolve. It's all yours. Like I thought you made a claim that was false and couldn't back it up...good to know |
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Post by matisse on Dec 27, 2021 17:27:30 GMT -5
There are none, wally. Give it up. Cessationism is only a thing to Christian Apologists like "GotQuestions" and you who are compelled to explain why Jesus and the Apostles could supposedly perform miracles and Christians today cannot. I have no such cognitive dissonance to resolve. It's all yours. Like I thought you made a claim that was false and couldn't back it up...good to know You are making no sense. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2021 17:33:56 GMT -5
Like I thought you made a claim that was false and couldn't back it up...good to know You are making no sense. Denial/de nile isn't just a river in Egypt is it matisse? Like I said before playing ignorant won't help you... |
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Post by matisse on Dec 27, 2021 17:50:26 GMT -5
Denial/de nile isn't just a river in Egypt is it matisse? Like I said before playing ignorant won't help you...  Bull Head |
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Post by nathan on Dec 27, 2021 18:14:50 GMT -5
If it was a Mythology then why did you believed it before and worshipped God singing praises to them for how many years when you were a 2x2?
Godhead= Father, Christ and Holy Spirit are ETERNAL then how the Godhead came out Polytheistic pagan Mythology when they didn't exist 6000 years ago.
Your belief doesn't make any sense, the timing if way off.
I was blind to my indoctrination. Now I can see.
Heb. 6:4-6 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost, and have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come, if they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame. It's Impossible if they DON'T ever to Repent.... Wally, has reprofessed Twice... so, it is NOT impossible to have people the vision of Truth in Jesus to be RESTORED again. I have heard and met a few people like Wally, myself.
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