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Post by speak on Nov 12, 2021 19:52:13 GMT -5
"If you don't see it like me you'll burn in hell"
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Post by nathan02 on Nov 12, 2021 20:06:11 GMT -5
"If you don't see it like me you'll burn in hell" ** Elder, You lied! That is NOT Wally's gospel that is Chuckitie and 2x2s down under non-exclusive teachings. "If you don't see like Jesus you will burn in HeLL." Jesus own words John 3:15-21 |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2021 20:44:06 GMT -5
"If you don't see it like me you'll burn in hell" You are confused at best or lying at worst, that is your Lord of chuckite's that thinks that...good try though elder |
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Post by Roselyn T on Nov 12, 2021 20:54:37 GMT -5
"If you don't see it like me you'll burn in hell" So true speak, @wally doesn't seem to understand that he doesn't have to say the words, his posts on here speak for themselves. An example of this is his posts about being "the watchman", as if he is in the place to be able to judge others. He is quick to put chuck down because of his views, but never calls nathan out for the rubbish he posts. |
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Post by xna on Nov 12, 2021 21:00:38 GMT -5
"If you don't see it like me you'll burn in hell" @wally and nathan posts pretty much agree with what the workers taught me (x-UFO's), when I professed some 40 years ago. Then they preached apostolic succession, and they were the one and only true way, all else go to hell lead by their hireling preachers. This is what I told my family when I "joined" the 2x2. But once I learned the 2x2 history, I walked away. That well had been poisoned. I expect the same is happening here. Good to see that at lease some are preaching a kinder and gentler 2x2 version. |
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Post by Annan on Nov 12, 2021 21:02:51 GMT -5
"If you don't see it like me you'll burn in hell" @wally and nathan posts pretty much agree with what the workers taught me (x-UFO's), when I professed some 40 years ago. Then they preached apostolic succession, and they were the one and only true way, all else go to hell lead by their hireling preachers. This is what I told my family when I "joined" the 2x2. But once I learned the 2x2 history, I walked away. That well had been poisoned. I expect the same is happening here. Good to see that at lease some are preaching a kinder and gentler 2x2 version. Your story echoes my father’s story. He was deeply hurt at the betrayal of the workers who admitted the deception. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2021 21:08:36 GMT -5
"If you don't see it like me you'll burn in hell" So true speak , @wally doesn't seem to understand that he doesn't have to say the words, his posts on here speak for themselves. An example of this is his posts about being "the watchman", as if he is in the place to be able to judge others. He is quick to put chuck down because of his views, but never calls nathan out for the rubbish he posts. Watchmen don't judge they just warn....Good try though Chuck is here to do more damage than nathan ever could with his alien theory... |
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Post by xna on Nov 12, 2021 21:14:02 GMT -5
@wally and nathan posts pretty much agree with what the workers taught me (x-UFO's), when I professed some 40 years ago. Then they preached apostolic succession, and they were the one and only true way, all else go to hell lead by their hireling preachers. This is what I told my family when I "joined" the 2x2. But once I learned the 2x2 history, I walked away. That well had been poisoned. I expect the same is happening here. Good to see that at lease some are preaching a kinder and gentler 2x2 version. Your story echoes my father’s story. He was deeply hurt at the betrayal of the workers who admitted the deception. When I learned that the 2x2 was started like all the other religions, I looked at many other religions and sects and concluded they all were just myths started by men. Better to not waste any more time on mass delusions. One of the reasons I hang out here from time to time is to be reminded of those days. I consider getting out of religion as one of my major accomplishments in life. |
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Post by Roselyn T on Nov 12, 2021 21:15:59 GMT -5
So true speak , @wally doesn't seem to understand that he doesn't have to say the words, his posts on here speak for themselves. An example of this is his posts about being "the watchman", as if he is in the place to be able to judge others. He is quick to put chuck down because of his views, but never calls nathan out for the rubbish he posts. Watchmen don't judge they just warn....Good try though Chuck is here to do more damage than nathan ever could with his alien theory... Are you in the position to warn others @wally ? No nathan's crap is doing way more damage to the 2x2s than chuck will ever do, chuck has never said the Workers should be hung because they don't preach the Trinity! |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2021 21:18:10 GMT -5
Watchmen don't judge they just warn....Good try though Chuck is here to do more damage than nathan ever could with his alien theory... Are you in the position to warn others @wally ? No nathan 's crap is doing way more damage to the 2x2s than chuck will ever do, chuck has never said the Workers should be hung because they don't preach the Trinity! Yes, and anyone can be a watchman that is a believer... You have no insight as to what is happening on this forum, take your atheist blinders off if you want to see the truth... |
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Post by Roselyn T on Nov 12, 2021 21:32:30 GMT -5
Are you in the position to warn others @wally ? No nathan 's crap is doing way more damage to the 2x2s than chuck will ever do, chuck has never said the Workers should be hung because they don't preach the Trinity! Yes, and anyone can be a watchman that is a believer... You have no insight as to what is happening on this forum, take your atheist blinders off if you want to see the truth... If anyone that is a believer can be a watchman who are you to promote yourself as "the watchman" on TMB ? Are you and nathan the only believers ? As for what is happening on this forum, I believe we can all see that nathan is using it as a platform to promote himself and his rubbish from his idol Frank Stranges. The fact that you just skirted around what nathan said about the Workers speaks for itself. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2021 21:49:29 GMT -5
Yes, and anyone can be a watchman that is a believer... You have no insight as to what is happening on this forum, take your atheist blinders off if you want to see the truth... If anyone that is a believer can be a watchman who are you to promote yourself as "the watchman" on TMB ? Are you and nathan the only believers ? As for what is happening on this forum, I believe we can all see that nathan is using it as a platform to promote himself and his rubbish from his idol Frank Stranges. The fact that you just skirted around what nathan said about the Workers speaks for itself. If any believer can be a watchman why wouldn't I call myself a watchman? And I've never said I am "the watchman" I've said I am "a watchman"...keep up Nathan is at least pointing to God/Christ/HS whereas Chuck points away from them. If you didn't have your blinders on you would remember I already dealt with the whole "killing and hanging" issue back in FEB/MAR 2020... |
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Post by nathan on Nov 12, 2021 22:01:17 GMT -5
If anyone that is a believer can be a watchman who are you to promote yourself as "the watchman" on TMB ? Are you and nathan the only believers ? As for what is happening on this forum, I believe we can all see that nathan is using it as a platform to promote himself and his rubbish from his idol Frank Stranges. The fact that you just skirted around what nathan said about the Workers speaks for itself. If any believer can be a watchman why wouldn't I call myself a watchman? And I've never said I am "the watchman" I've said I am "a watchman"...keep up Nathan is at least pointing to God/Christ/HS whereas Chuck points away from them.
If you didn't have your blinders on you would remember I already dealt with the whole "killing and hanging" issue back in FEB/MAR 2020... A big deal and a lot of fuss has been made over that simple statement... I would suggest taking it as a harsh figure of speech that's not taken literally, but just a dysphemism instead of a euphemism. I'm sure Nathan was not suggesting that "Someone should get a rope!".... But figuratively expressing his disapproval of those who spew the anti-trinity doctrine.
When one denounces the divinity of Christ, and they don't believe that "I and my Father are one" or "He that hath seen me hath seen the Father", then from a spiritual perspective, they are essentially hanging themselves. If Christ were just a man separate from the Father, he'd have no power or authority to save anyone, nor could he be our intercessory for prayer. He was a divine sacrifice from the onset.. "His divine power hath given unto us all things that pertain unto life" (2 Peter 1:3). 2) NathanB: Amen, Dan... People take my posts out of context on here all the time and they repeat it over and over when I already explained to them many times in the past. Jesus often use figure of speech like in Jesus said in Matthew 18:6 But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea.
Christ/God said He would hang figuratively and physically casting them in the lake of fire who teach and believe in false doctrines and let His people go astray from Him, I can't do it physically. God said Vengence is mine saith the Lord. I am a TRUE believer so, I better obey God and Why would I go against His teachings.
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Post by Roselyn T on Nov 12, 2021 22:04:28 GMT -5
If anyone that is a believer can be a watchman who are you to promote yourself as "the watchman" on TMB ? Are you and nathan the only believers ? As for what is happening on this forum, I believe we can all see that nathan is using it as a platform to promote himself and his rubbish from his idol Frank Stranges. The fact that you just skirted around what nathan said about the Workers speaks for itself. If any believer can be a watchman why wouldn't I call myself a watchman? And I've never said I am "the watchman" I've said I am "a watchman"...keep up Nathan is at least pointing to God/Christ/HS whereas Chuck points away from them. If you didn't have your blinders on you would remember I already dealt with the whole "killing and hanging" issue back in FEB/MAR 2020... So nathan promoting Frank Stranges is pointing to God ? You use the "watchman" crap as a way to put others down @wally and to justify yourself. Look at the way you put speak down. You can never admit that maybe you are wrong, your comments at the end of your posts say it all ! |
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Post by Roselyn T on Nov 12, 2021 22:09:53 GMT -5
If any believer can be a watchman why wouldn't I call myself a watchman? And I've never said I am "the watchman" I've said I am "a watchman"...keep up Nathan is at least pointing to God/Christ/HS whereas Chuck points away from them.
If you didn't have your blinders on you would remember I already dealt with the whole "killing and hanging" issue back in FEB/MAR 2020... A big deal and a lot of fuss has been made over that simple statement... I would suggest taking it as a harsh figure of speech that's not taken literally, but just a dysphemism instead of a euphemism. I'm sure Nathan was not suggesting that "Someone should get a rope!".... But figuratively expressing his disapproval of those who spew the anti-trinity doctrine.
When one denounces the divinity of Christ, and they don't believe that "I and my Father are one" or "He that hath seen me hath seen the Father", then from a spiritual perspective, they are essentially hanging themselves. If Christ were just a man separate from the Father, he'd have no power or authority to save anyone, nor could he be our intercessory for prayer. He was a divine sacrifice from the onset.. "His divine power hath given unto us all things that pertain unto life" (2 Peter 1:3). 2) NathanB: Amen, Dan... People take my posts out of context on here all the time and they repeat it over and over when I already explained to them many times in the past. Jesus often use figure of speech like in Jesus said in Matthew 18:6 But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea.
Christ/God said He would hang figuratively and physically casting them in the lake of fire who teach and believe in false doctrines and let His people go astray from Him, I can't do it physically. God said Vengence is mine saith the Lord. I am a TRUE believer so, I better obey God and Why would I go against His teachings.
Stop trying to justify yourself nathan, Dan wasn't even on here when you said what you did about the Workers. You were called out a couple of weeks ago for twisting things you knew nothing about. We all saw what you wrote and it is you that has the warning. Take some responsibility for your words. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2021 22:11:33 GMT -5
If any believer can be a watchman why wouldn't I call myself a watchman? And I've never said I am "the watchman" I've said I am "a watchman"...keep up Nathan is at least pointing to God/Christ/HS whereas Chuck points away from them. If you didn't have your blinders on you would remember I already dealt with the whole "killing and hanging" issue back in FEB/MAR 2020... So nathan promoting Frank Stranges is pointing to God ? You use the "watchman" crap as a way to put others down @wally and to justify yourself. Look at the way you put speak down. You can never admit that maybe you are wrong, your comments at the end of your posts say it all ! Nathan is always pointing towards God/Christ/HS despite what anyone else says including Frank... Look at how the downunder 2x2's put down the American 2x2's that includes speak. I've admitted to being wrong before you should get your facts straight instead of lying about that... |
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Post by nathan on Nov 12, 2021 22:13:20 GMT -5
If any believer can be a watchman why wouldn't I call myself a watchman? And I've never said I am "the watchman" I've said I am "a watchman"...keep up Nathan is at least pointing to God/Christ/HS whereas Chuck points away from them. If you didn't have your blinders on you would remember I already dealt with the whole "killing and hanging" issue back in FEB/MAR 2020... So nathan promoting Frank Stranges is pointing to God ? You use the "watchman" crap as a way to put others down @wally and to justify yourself. Look at the way you put speak down. You can never admit that maybe you are wrong, your comments at the end of your posts say it all ! ~~ Jesus The Great " I AM " God
I, the Lord God of creation, who was and who is and who shall always be the one true God, the mind, the very center of the Universe, speaks to your own heart. The words that I have spoken to my prophets Moses and others were that he should recognize that the great “I Am.” filled his being with the power and the authority to open his mouth in my name and to proclaim his words as a living words that I placed deeply within him.
I have in times past spoken through the mouths of my prophets and then through the mouths of my apostles. Now the times and seasons are approaching, as are the reasons, when my words shall again be spoken by my obedient prophets and apostles. Their words shall be my words and their deeds that shall be my deeds, because I have spoken this thing before the World was ever formed. Those words that I now speak shall be hidden for a season and then shall be revealed in the last times I shall cause the Earth to quake and the sunlight, which represents the new dawning, shall shine brightly upon those who are appointed to carry my words from the darkness of the caves to the bright sunlight of my new revelation to all mankind ... and mankind shall read and they shall study those words and they shall find that they are the words that will cause an awakening to occur in the minds of mankind. It has been said in times past that I am in the wind and I am in the fire and I am into the waters. These words are not true. The truth of this matter is that I am the wind. I am the fire. I am the water. I am in everything and in everything that exists. When you touch the mountain, you touch me. When you are touching the water, you are touching me. When you touch the fire, you are touching me. I am the Lord of the Universe and there is not one place that I am not. I am not in the flowers, the plants, the fruit of the land, but I am the flowers. I am the plants. I am the fruit of the land. Mankind will climb into the heavens. I am not in the heavenly, but I am the heavenly. When I created man from the dust of the Earth, I was the dust of the Earth and I was and am the breath of life that causes mankind to live.
Say not that the Lord your God is in the heavens or on the Earth. I am the heavens and I am the Earth. Now you have received the true revelation of my word, which was spoken to you in times past. The word said that I am everywhere present. I am omnipresent. I am not part of myself, but rather I am the whole of the Universe. Wherever you look, wherever you come or go, whatever you do or say, I am there in the midst of you because I am not only in, but rather I am you! It shall be written in the future that man is the universe. I say to you that I do not dwell in the universe of mankind, but I am that Universe of Mankind, and there is no separation whatsoever. These words that I have spoken to you at this time and in this place are that you might believe the truth of the message that as my Father is one with me so is the Spirit one with me. Now I am likewise in you and you are in me and that means I am one and you are with me. Have I not spoken these words in the past that I am in you and you are in me? (John 17:21) Jesus said, " That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me." Let this testimony be with you forever and forever, as we together traverse the streets of that sojourn from dawn to night. Be at peace and look deeply within yourself and you will find me. Again I have spoken the words in the past that you are indeed gods. I am your God. This revelation is of utmost importance and you must believe the whole truth as I have spoken it in your pure hearing. I say to you, allow the vibrations of your spirit, your inner ear, be unstopped and hear what the Spirit says to you at this hour. I am the center of your universe, because I am the whole of your universe. Know this, for this is the word of the living God, the Creator of all things which are. In time and seasons to come this word will be revealed to you and you shall behold the brightness of this truth, and you shall say, “This is the light for which I have long awaited. This is the revelation that will hold and maintain me through every experience of life.” Beware, there are those who would destroy this truth, but they shall not be able to destroy this truth because the truth abides in you and you abide in the truth. I have spoken in times past. And I have said that the truth shall cause many to walk in freedom, out of darkness and satanic bondage. And they shall have no further influence or rule over you. I have spoken these truths by the words of my lips and these words are true. Accept them and you shall live in peace, in joy and in victory over all things. Amen! You are invited to share this information with others, but kindly acknowledge copyright and keep this article intact. © Dr. Frank E. Stranges |
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Post by Roselyn T on Nov 12, 2021 22:18:02 GMT -5
So nathan promoting Frank Stranges is pointing to God ? You use the "watchman" crap as a way to put others down @wally and to justify yourself. Look at the way you put speak down. You can never admit that maybe you are wrong, your comments at the end of your posts say it all ! Nathan is always pointing towards God/Christ/HS despite what anyone else says including Frank... Look at how the downunder 2x2's put down the American 2x2's that includes speak. I've admitted to being wrong before you should get your facts straight instead of lying about that... Why are you justifying the rubbish nathan posts @wally ? Do you think the Workers would agree with nathan idolising Frank Stranges or saying JC lives in Venus ? Yet you put chuck down because he doesn't believe what you do. nathan has even admitted to using TMB to promote HIS "21st century gospel", I wonder what the Workers would think of that? |
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Post by Roselyn T on Nov 12, 2021 22:21:59 GMT -5
So nathan promoting Frank Stranges is pointing to God ? You use the "watchman" crap as a way to put others down @wally and to justify yourself. Look at the way you put speak down. You can never admit that maybe you are wrong, your comments at the end of your posts say it all !
Frank is dead nathan...he isn't pointing anyone anywhere! He wasn't even a member of the 2x2 church ! Yet you keep promoting him and put the Workers down ! |
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Post by nathan on Nov 12, 2021 22:24:54 GMT -5
Nathan is always pointing towards God/Christ/HS despite what anyone else says including Frank... Look at how the downunder 2x2's put down the American 2x2's that includes speak. I've admitted to being wrong before you should get your facts straight instead of lying about that... Why are you justifying the rubbish nathan posts @wally ? Do you think the Workers would agree with nathan idolising Frank Stranges or saying JC lives in Venus ? Yet you put chuck down because he doesn't believe what you do. nathan has even admitted to using TMB to promote HIS "21st century gospel", I wonder what the Workers would think of that?
Jesus Christ 21st century gospel are TRUE just wait and see because it has come to Pass to some degree already. Christ has sent the Venusian human looking angel Val Thor to open the Christ's Dead Sea Scrolls teachings to the world. Val. Thor gave it to Frank Stranges to publish and posted the information on the Internet.
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Post by Roselyn T on Nov 12, 2021 22:30:08 GMT -5
Why are you justifying the rubbish nathan posts @wally ? Do you think the Workers would agree with nathan idolising Frank Stranges or saying JC lives in Venus ? Yet you put chuck down because he doesn't believe what you do. nathan has even admitted to using TMB to promote HIS "21st century gospel", I wonder what the Workers would think of that?
Jesus Christ 21st are TRUE because wait and see it will come to Pass.... It has nothing to do with exs or atheists nathan, the F&Ws don't believe in "your 21st Century Gospel" either, that is the part that you don't or won't accept. You are so full of your "own importance" and trying to "big note" yourself. As I have said before go and start your own 21st Century Gospel church if you don't agree with the 2x2 church. |
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Post by fixit on Nov 12, 2021 22:32:30 GMT -5
Look at how the downunder 2x2's put down the American 2x2's that includes speak. I put down some of the behavior of American 2x2s such as: 1. Carrying guns. 2. Refusing to vaccinate to help protect your fellow man, especially the vulnerable. 3. The promotion of trinitarianism, but I expect one a small minority would do that. |
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Post by fixit on Nov 12, 2021 22:33:22 GMT -5
Jesus Christ 21st century gospel are TRUE just wait and see because it has come to Pass to some degree already. Christ has sent the Venusian human looking angel Val Thor to open the Christ's Dead Sea Scrolls teachings to the world. Val. Thor gave it to Frank Stranges to publish and posted the information on the Internet. Garbage. |
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Post by Roselyn T on Nov 12, 2021 22:36:28 GMT -5
Jesus Christ 21st century gospel are TRUE just wait and see because it has come to Pass to some degree already. Christ has sent the Venusian human looking angel Val Thor to open the Christ's Dead Sea Scrolls teachings to the world. Val. Thor gave it to Frank Stranges to publish and posted the information on the Internet. Garbage. @wally sees this as nathan pointing to Christ ! |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2021 22:38:51 GMT -5
Nathan is always pointing towards God/Christ/HS despite what anyone else says including Frank... Look at how the downunder 2x2's put down the American 2x2's that includes speak. I've admitted to being wrong before you should get your facts straight instead of lying about that... Why are you justifying the rubbish nathan posts @wally ? Do you think the Workers would agree with nathan idolising Frank Stranges or saying JC lives in Venus ? Yet you put chuck down because he doesn't believe what you do. nathan has even admitted to using TMB to promote HIS "21st century gospel", I wonder what the Workers would think of that? I'm not justifying anything accept that Nathan promotes God/Christ/and the Holy Spirit chuck doesn't. You got to pick your battles. I'm sure that if Nathan starts drifting from the truth the workers will have a chat with him. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2021 22:40:45 GMT -5
@wally sees this as nathan pointing to Christ ! Quit lying atheist...I have little to do with the alien theory... |
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Post by nathan on Nov 12, 2021 22:42:49 GMT -5
The choice is up to the readers.... You atheists ex-2x2s will fight tooth and nail for it.... because you don't want to admit there is God, Christ and Holy Spirit or there is LIFE after the death.
Jesus Christ 21st are TRUE because wait and see it will come to Pass.... It has nothing to do with exs or atheists nathan , the F&Ws don't believe in "your 21st Century Gospel" either, that is the part that you don't or won't accept. You are so full of your "own importance" and trying to "big note" yourself.
I will continue to share what God has laid upon my heart to share... the message has to be announced believe it or NOT is up to the listeners and they will be held responsible for it.
Jesus said in Matthew 10:13-15 And if the house be worthy, let your peace come upon it: but if it be not worthy, let your peace return to you. And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear your words, when ye depart out of that house or city, shake off the dust of your feet. Verily I say unto you, It shall be more tolerable for the land of Sodom and Gomorrha in the day of judgment, than for that city. |
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Post by Roselyn T on Nov 12, 2021 22:43:16 GMT -5
Why are you justifying the rubbish nathan posts @wally ? Do you think the Workers would agree with nathan idolising Frank Stranges or saying JC lives in Venus ? Yet you put chuck down because he doesn't believe what you do. nathan has even admitted to using TMB to promote HIS "21st century gospel", I wonder what the Workers would think of that? I'm not justifying anything accept that Nathan promotes God/Christ/and the Holy Spirit chuck doesn't. You got to pick your battles. I'm sure that if Nathan starts drifting from the truth the workers will have a chat with him. Where is your proof that chuck doesn't promote the HS ? Are you in the position to make that decision? If nathan was honest about what he believes I am sure the Workers would be having a chat to him, but of course he isn't honest! |
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