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Post by mountain on Nov 3, 2021 17:39:51 GMT -5
Nathan, you are taking a lot of flack for your Clint Eastwood approach to non-trinitarian workers about 'Hang 'em High.' I think that once the current poll is finished we should settle this business of you wanting workers hanged, by having a poll. What do you think? Please, don't! Do it. You have messed up the 2 Trinity polls so bad already. You will make the situation worse than before and you are very good at stirring the pot to the boiling point. I thought everyone in the States like a good hangin'? As for messing up two trinity polls already, I think the voters are good testimony otherwise? One thing about life is that when you seek to please people you will always make someone unhappy. According to my information the polls that I have created have been well received by many.
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Post by nathan02 on Nov 3, 2021 17:40:44 GMT -5
** Like Dan has said you meant for BOTH Trinity polls to fail with all of your craziness and rediculous! Additions with the Trinity! Nazi moon landing! Jesus lives inside Venus, hollow earth and so on! However, the Poll went to page 2 at the top! It left out all of your BS additions to the Nathan Trinity is true. The voters didn't read and see any your BS additions to the poll and they just vote to the simple answers Yes, Nathan Trinity is True. About 11 people voted, Yes. You and fixit are Anti-Trinity believers and you don't want people to come to that understanding! You and Fix it Do all you can to blind people from seeing and believing the Triune God/the Trinity and Jesus is God. How many of those who voted for the trinity, once they realised what they voted for, went back and cancelled their vote? Answer - None! There's integrity for you! They knew what they had voted for. ** Off course! They ignored your silliness additions Nazi moon landing, hollow earth, Jesus lives inside Venus and so on. You meant for the Trinity is True to fail but they/11 voted for is the Trinity is TRUE. They stick to what they know is true and ignore your silly game that you play on here.
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Post by nathan02 on Nov 3, 2021 17:42:17 GMT -5
Please, don't! Do it. You have messed up the 2 Trinity polls so bad already. You will make the situation worse than before and you are very good at stirring the pot to the boiling point. I thought everyone in the States like a good hangin'? ** You can go and play the game Hang man yourself. Come back and let us know how it went, OK.
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Post by mountain on Nov 3, 2021 17:44:19 GMT -5
How many of those who voted for the trinity, once they realised what they voted for, went back and cancelled their vote? Answer - None! There's integrity for you! They knew what they had voted for. ** Off course! They ignored your silliness additions Nazi moon landing, hollow earth, Jesus lives inside Venus and so on. You meant for the Trinity is True to fail but they/11 voted for is the Trinity is TRUE. They stick to what they know is true and ignore your silly game that you play on here. So if someone accidentally puts diesel in a petrol tank at a gas station, they should just leave it and try and drive off with it, rather than correct their mistake?
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Post by mountain on Nov 3, 2021 17:46:04 GMT -5
I thought everyone in the States like a good hangin'? ** You can go and play the game Hang man yourself. Come back and let us know how it went, OK. At least with this dialogue, Nathan, we are not getting screeds and screeds of quotes and stories. Some viewers might actually read our exchanges now?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2021 18:15:40 GMT -5
** Off course! They ignored your silliness additions Nazi moon landing, hollow earth, Jesus lives inside Venus and so on. You meant for the Trinity is True to fail but they/11 voted for is the Trinity is TRUE. They stick to what they know is true and ignore your silly game that you play on here. So if someone accidentally puts diesel in a petrol tank at a gas station, they should just leave it and try and drive off with it, rather than correct their mistake? There is no easy fix for putting the wrong fuel in your vehicle...and I doubt they would get far with diesel in a gas powered vehicle.
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Post by nathan02 on Nov 3, 2021 18:56:57 GMT -5
** Off course! They ignored your silliness additions Nazi moon landing, hollow earth, Jesus lives inside Venus and so on. You meant for the Trinity is True to fail but they/11 voted for is the Trinity is TRUE. They stick to what they know is true and ignore your silly game that you play on here. So if someone accidentally puts diesel in a petrol tank at a gas station, they should just leave it and try and drive off with it, rather than correct their mistake? *** Bad example! You tried to trick them and they ignored your game and voted for Nathan Trinity is True. You lost the war and battle against the Triune God/Trinity, and Jesus is NOT God, Buddy. Your Anti-Trinity buddies Arius and his followers were excommunicated from the RCC priesthood and the Church since the 7th century! Please, try NOT to promote or bring the Anti-Trinity spirits of Arius back, it only create and cause confusion and Chaos among the Christians community! Once again.
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Post by mrdobalina on Nov 3, 2021 22:04:29 GMT -5
** You see, many workers in USA do NOT accept money or help from non-professing people! They want people to KNOW and believe what they are supporting I don't know why the workers in your country accepting yours help/money for 30 years. That is very odd. Don't they have the friends to take care the cars for the field? How did you get the job for a non-professing man? Were they hoping that you will profess some day? What is their purpose I wonder. You haven't addressed my question yet. I was born into this thing, and I'm very fond of these people, it's also the right thing to do. So do you actually dip your hand into your pocket for these people, or do your efforts simply amount to talking loads of crap online?
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Post by nathan on Nov 3, 2021 22:15:17 GMT -5
You haven't addressed my question yet. I was born into this thing, and I'm very fond of these people, it's also the right thing to do. So do you actually dip your hand into your pocket for these people, or do your efforts simply amount to talking loads of crap online? Here some information for you... I left everything behind my career, money, goods, family to go in the work, TWICE! I spent 7 years of waiting to go in the work, 8 years of my in the ministry. I give the workers lots of money the last 30 years. I send some money overseas, and workers aboard. Do you think I give enough for the work compare to you taken care of the workers cars.
I spent 500 dollars in every two years to put up 2x2 website. I spent 30 years of my life on the Internet to inform and warn the 2x2s on different topics such as CSA, NOT to teach false doctrines, and the goodness of the workers, the friends in the fellowship.
Who do you think give more to these people that we love me or you?
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Post by mrdobalina on Nov 3, 2021 22:21:08 GMT -5
Here some information for you... I left everything behind my career, money, goods, family to go in the work, TWICE! I spent 7 years of waiting to go in the work, 8 years of my in the ministry. I give the workers lots of money the last 30 years. I send some money to overseas, and workers aboard. Do you think I give enough for the work compare to you taken care of the workers cars. Then stop trying to implicate that I'm weird, or it's odd for a non professing person to take care of the workers needs. Clearly the workers in your district are paying for their own gas, your defensive reaction speaks that loud and clear.
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Post by mrdobalina on Nov 3, 2021 22:23:22 GMT -5
Who do you think give more to these people that we love me or you?I couldn't care less who gives more, seeing as it's not a competition. I simply do what I can with the skills & resources that are at my disposal, even if the US workers would turn their noses up at the idea of receiving charity from a heathen.
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Post by Dan on Nov 3, 2021 22:26:47 GMT -5
Why am I getting a case of déjà vu? I've seen this movie before, trashing the Trinity is not a genuine poll, questionnaire, or consensus. There's no real choice, just a predetermined conclusion. Why the re-run? Ask Nathan? He bellowed, he screamed, despite the previous threads and polls having been loaded in his favour (no complaints from yourself then?) that he wanted a poll designed about Fixit and the trinity. In fairness to Nathan, despite previous matters being highly favourable to him, I have taken up this challenge. But first, I locked the poll after 8 days and left a post that the Admin should flush the previous poll to the Jump on Board, which I seldom visit. So sar that poll/thread is still extant on this board. And what has become of it? Rather than accept the resounding victory of Verna and the commendable achievements of some of the others, as well as the overlying truth of the results, we see the thread is now inhabited by a Den of Vipers! Ugly, nasty, evil.....! The desire of these polls is to confirm the truth of matters through proper and sound establishment. Keep that in mind. The trinity concept is false and evil, deceiving most of Christendom. It is a tool of satan. It cannot be promoted as being true on any genuine poll. Nathan wanted this poll. Now he's got it. I deliberately left Verna out of the poll because she would be a distraction from the real question, deviating many votes away from the key issue. I have also, quite deliberately left out any mention of Nathan. Nathan desired this poll to be about whether or not Fixit was right or wrong about the trinity concept. This has been adequately provided for in all manner of truth and reality. There are two options focusing on Fixit's beliefs. One giving an option for him being right, whilst the other provides the alternative of him being wrong. Please consider all the options carefully and if you feel inclined then please vote accordingly. This is a very serious and important matter. Please don't treat it lightly. I had to provide an option for those who do indeed believe in the trinity (they do exist!), but I had to make it a realistic option, including ingredients commensurate with the very belief itself. That is only fair, right and proper. Would you not agree? Then there are people who like to exercise their right to vote. Some may not be inclined to vote either way in the trinity assertion, but may take pleasure in casting their vote for more realistic and pleasant distractions in the form of Cherie or Roselyn T. I have to be fair to everyone. I reiterate, the poll is about establishing and confirming the truth about the trinity, not giving the lie of it grounds to gain further currency. I have a duty and responsibility in designing and presenting these polls, which are proving highly popular by the way, although since I locked the previous one and asked for it to be evacuated from this board, it has been taken over by and large by pro-trinitarian factions spewing out their pagan oratory onto innocent posters, who should show more wisdom and leave that thread alone.
My objection is simply that its not a credible poll because it only allows one choice, i.e; the trinity is false... It would be like taking a presidential poll with 3 choices; 1. Are you for Biden? 2. Are you against Trump? 3. If you are for Trump, your also endorsing racism, sexism, xenophobia, etc... That's a fixed poll geared to get one result.
The one with the most votes is; 4) Roselyn T. This and the following option are for those who are fed up with the trinity nonsense... That's your objective, the questions posed aren't an honest quest to find a consensus, but to quash the deity of Christ. For those who believe Christ was in fact the Only begotten Son of God, its a little off-putting.
Consider that if Christ was actually 'One with his Father' as he claimed to be, then ridiculing the unity between the Father & Son could be considered blasphemous, "Whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven" (Matthew 10:33).
By the way, if Christ was not God the Son, why is a peasant from Nazareth coming back in judgement as King of Kings? Why isn't God pouring out His own wrath? Jesus was Immanuel, his crucifixion was in vain if he weren't God with us.
Mankind cannot redeem ourselves from sin, God paid the price himself.
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Post by reborn on Nov 3, 2021 22:32:42 GMT -5
Ask Nathan? He bellowed, he screamed, despite the previous threads and polls having been loaded in his favour (no complaints from yourself then?) that he wanted a poll designed about Fixit and the trinity. In fairness to Nathan, despite previous matters being highly favourable to him, I have taken up this challenge. But first, I locked the poll after 8 days and left a post that the Admin should flush the previous poll to the Jump on Board, which I seldom visit. So sar that poll/thread is still extant on this board. And what has become of it? Rather than accept the resounding victory of Verna and the commendable achievements of some of the others, as well as the overlying truth of the results, we see the thread is now inhabited by a Den of Vipers! Ugly, nasty, evil.....! The desire of these polls is to confirm the truth of matters through proper and sound establishment. Keep that in mind. The trinity concept is false and evil, deceiving most of Christendom. It is a tool of satan. It cannot be promoted as being true on any genuine poll. Nathan wanted this poll. Now he's got it. I deliberately left Verna out of the poll because she would be a distraction from the real question, deviating many votes away from the key issue. I have also, quite deliberately left out any mention of Nathan. Nathan desired this poll to be about whether or not Fixit was right or wrong about the trinity concept. This has been adequately provided for in all manner of truth and reality. There are two options focusing on Fixit's beliefs. One giving an option for him being right, whilst the other provides the alternative of him being wrong. Please consider all the options carefully and if you feel inclined then please vote accordingly. This is a very serious and important matter. Please don't treat it lightly. I had to provide an option for those who do indeed believe in the trinity (they do exist!), but I had to make it a realistic option, including ingredients commensurate with the very belief itself. That is only fair, right and proper. Would you not agree? Then there are people who like to exercise their right to vote. Some may not be inclined to vote either way in the trinity assertion, but may take pleasure in casting their vote for more realistic and pleasant distractions in the form of Cherie or Roselyn T. I have to be fair to everyone. I reiterate, the poll is about establishing and confirming the truth about the trinity, not giving the lie of it grounds to gain further currency. I have a duty and responsibility in designing and presenting these polls, which are proving highly popular by the way, although since I locked the previous one and asked for it to be evacuated from this board, it has been taken over by and large by pro-trinitarian factions spewing out their pagan oratory onto innocent posters, who should show more wisdom and leave that thread alone.
My objection is simply that its not a credible poll because it only allows one choice, i.e; the trinity is false... It would be like taking a presidential poll with 3 choices; 1. Are you for Biden? 2. Are you against Trump? 3. If you are for Trump, your also endorsing racism, sexism, xenophobia, etc... That's a fixed poll geared to get one result.
The one with the most votes is; 4) Roselyn T. This and the following option are for those who are fed up with the trinity nonsense... That's your objective, the questions posed aren't an honest quest to find a consensus, but to quash the deity of Christ. For those who believe Christ was in fact the Only begotten Son of God, its a little off-putting.
Consider that if Christ was actually 'One with his Father' as he claimed to be, then ridiculing the unity between the Father & Son could be considered blasphemous, "Whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven" (Matthew 10:33).
By the way, if Christ was not God the Son, why is a peasant from Nazareth coming back in judgement as King of Kings? Why isn't God pouring out His own wrath? Jesus was Immanuel, his crucifixion was in vain if he weren't God with us.
Mankind cannot redeem ourselves from sin, God paid the price himself.
Amen Dan! The thought has been coming to me over and over again that If we could have been saved by just the power of the Holy Spirit than Jesus coming to earth would not have been necessary at all. The Eternal God is working with his eternal plan!
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Post by nathan on Nov 3, 2021 22:42:53 GMT -5
Here some information for you... I left everything behind my career, money, goods, family to go in the work, TWICE! I spent 7 years of waiting to go in the work, 8 years of my in the ministry. I give the workers lots of money the last 30 years. I send some money overseas, and workers aboard. Do you think I give enough for the work compare to you taken care of the workers cars.
I spent 500 dollars in every two years to put up 2x2 website. I spent 30 years of my life on the Internet to inform and warn the 2x2s on different topics such as CSA, NOT to teach false doctrines, and the goodness of the workers, the friends in the fellowship.
Who do you think give more to these people that we love me or you? Then stop trying to implicate that I'm weird, or it's odd for a non professing person to take care of the workers needs. Clearly the workers in your district are paying for their own gas, your defensive reaction speaks that loud and clear. It was you, who wants to KNOW how much I give to the workers! So, I gave you a brief history of my life what I have done for the work, and the workers.
We give the workers money so, they can buy their own gas! and spent the money with whatever they need it.
The workers are wise for NOT accepting money from people who don't believe or accept the gospel or believe the workers as the servants of God.... This way they can't say the workers are just like preachers of the world just take the people money without caring/knowing what they teach.
The workers want people to know and understand what they give and who they support and help.
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Post by mrdobalina on Nov 3, 2021 22:56:17 GMT -5
Then stop trying to implicate that I'm weird, or it's odd for a non professing person to take care of the workers needs. Clearly the workers in your district are paying for their own gas, your defensive reaction speaks that loud and clear. It was you, who wants to KNOW how much I give to the workers! So, I gave you a brief history of my life what I have done for the work, and the workers.
At no point whatsoever did I enquire as to how much you give to the workers, you seem to have made that up in an effort to make me appear to be the villain. All I asked was whether you support them with the resources you have at your disposal, as I do.
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Post by nathan on Nov 3, 2021 23:04:20 GMT -5
It was you, who wants to KNOW how much I give to the workers! So, I gave you a brief history of my life what I have done for the work, and the workers.
At no point whatsoever did I enquire as to how much you give to the workers, you seem to have made that up in an effort to make me appear to be the villain. All I asked was whether you support them with the resources you have at your disposal, as I do. Here is what you wrote in your post.MrD. "You haven't addressed my question yet. I was born into this thing, and I'm very fond of these people, it's also the right thing to do. So do you actually dip your hand into your pocket for these people, or do your efforts simply amount to talking loads of crap online?" So, I give you a brief history of my life what I gave to the work, the workers, and the friends through the years...
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Post by mrdobalina on Nov 3, 2021 23:33:33 GMT -5
At no point whatsoever did I enquire as to how much you give to the workers, you seem to have made that up in an effort to make me appear to be the villain. All I asked was whether you support them with the resources you have at your disposal, as I do. Here is what you wrote in your post.MrD. "You haven't addressed my question yet. I was born into this thing, and I'm very fond of these people, it's also the right thing to do. So do you actually dip your hand into your pocket for these people, or do your efforts simply amount to talking loads of crap online?" So, I give you a brief history of my life what I gave to the work, the workers, and the friends through the years... Correct, I did not ask how much, neither did I ask for a breakdown of your good deeds, and the cost thereof. Thanks for confirming that.
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Post by nathan on Nov 3, 2021 23:56:52 GMT -5
Here is what you wrote in your post.MrD. "You haven't addressed my question yet. I was born into this thing, and I'm very fond of these people, it's also the right thing to do. So do you actually dip your hand into your pocket for these people, or do your efforts simply amount to talking loads of crap online?" So, I give you a brief history of my life what I gave to the work, the workers, and the friends through the years... Correct, I did not ask how much, neither did I ask for a breakdown of your good deeds, and the cost thereof. Thanks for confirming that. You didn't expect that kind of information did you? Now, you know. How much I dip in my pocket money and many years of my life for these 2x2s people and workers that I truly care about.
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Post by mrdobalina on Nov 4, 2021 0:14:37 GMT -5
Correct, I did not ask how much, neither did I ask for a breakdown of your good deeds, and the cost thereof. Thanks for confirming that. You didn't expect that kind of information did you? Not at all, it seems quite uncouth of you to break it down to be frank.
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Post by nathan on Nov 4, 2021 0:17:18 GMT -5
You didn't expect that kind of information did you? Not at all, it seems quite uncouth of you to break it down to be frank. There are a lot about me that you don't know, yet.
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Post by BobWilliston on Nov 4, 2021 0:19:51 GMT -5
Has the Trinity been fixed yet?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2021 0:26:34 GMT -5
Has the Trinity been fixed yet? Not yet or anytime soon...
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Post by guest8 on Nov 4, 2021 0:32:35 GMT -5
Then stop trying to implicate that I'm weird, or it's odd for a non professing person to take care of the workers needs. Clearly the workers in your district are paying for their own gas, your defensive reaction speaks that loud and clear. It was you, who wants to KNOW how much I give to the workers! So, I gave you a brief history of my life what I have done for the work, and the workers.
We give the workers money so, they can buy their own gas! and spent the money with whatever they need it.
The workers are wise for NOT accepting money from people who don't believe or accept the gospel or believe the workers as the servants of God.... This way they can't say the workers are just like preachers of the world just take the people money without caring/knowing what they teach.
The workers want people to know and understand what they give and who they support and help.
The joy is in giving. Loving unconditionally. Like the Good Samaritan. Some people never understand that concept because of it’s simplicity.
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Post by nathan on Nov 4, 2021 1:11:07 GMT -5
Has the Trinity been fixed yet? Not yet or anytime soon... We see more people are believing in the Trinity/Triune God on TMB now. That is good to see.
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Post by mrdobalina on Nov 4, 2021 2:01:13 GMT -5
Not at all, it seems quite uncouth of you to break it down to be frank. There are a lot about me that you don't know, yet.
And even more that you will never know about me.
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Post by Qxmen on Nov 4, 2021 5:57:34 GMT -5
So if someone accidentally puts diesel in a petrol tank at a gas station, they should just leave it and try and drive off with it, rather than correct their mistake? There is no easy fix for putting the wrong fuel in your vehicle...and I doubt they would get far with diesel in a gas powered vehicle. Its the smoke it would be emitting that would give it away, however if you put petrol into a diesel you would not want to drive that very long.
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Post by mountain on Nov 4, 2021 11:17:57 GMT -5
So if someone accidentally puts diesel in a petrol tank at a gas station, they should just leave it and try and drive off with it, rather than correct their mistake? There is no easy fix for putting the wrong fuel in your vehicle...and I doubt they would get far with diesel in a gas powered vehicle. Ah, so it is like filling your head up with the trinity? Thanks for clearing that one up!
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Post by nathan02 on Nov 4, 2021 11:44:04 GMT -5
There is no easy fix for putting the wrong fuel in your vehicle...and I doubt they would get far with diesel in a gas powered vehicle. Ah, so it is like filling your head up with the trinity? Thanks for clearing that one up! ** You and the current workers and the friends believe and worship in the Triune God= Father, Christ and Holy Spirit. You and them are Trinitarians believers. If you and them keep on denying you don't then it shows that you and them are confuse or don't have a clear understanding of the Triune God.
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