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Post by Pragmatic on Aug 10, 2021 21:09:15 GMT -5
I think the reason I started this thread, with a message in the story, has become self-evident.
You "can't argue with stupid" and "belief is stronger than fact" in the mind of some.
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Post by dmmichgood on Aug 10, 2021 21:39:08 GMT -5
Yeah, it's me that has all the problems of course. Jesus frequently downloads messages into my head too. At least a dozen times last week he told me to go & get a beer from the fridge. *** I believe that voice is from Satan on the beer... God's voice is to drink some nice cold glass of water! Really? "God's voice is to drink some nice cold glass of water."
Strange then that "His Son" turned that nice glass of water into wine."
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Post by nathan on Aug 10, 2021 22:04:59 GMT -5
Frank is a fake, false prophet. You put his stuff equal or above the Bible Nathan. Frank never met Jesus at all. Only the gullible would believe such stuff Nathan wrote 10 August 2021: "My guess majority of the workers don't believe in intelligence beings, angels from Venus or Jesus lives in Venus... If Valiant Thor appeared to the 2×2 overseers and told them Jesus is alive and lives inside Venus planet. Do you think they would receive the message gladly? or tell Valiant to get lost". Wonder why the workers don't believe this stuff? Who has the truth, Nathan or the workers? This man's testimony disagree with your opinion and your doubting Thomas syndrome. Frank Potter was a member of Inner Circle of Dr. Frank group/Melchizedek
"The Stranger at The Pentagon" book written by Pastor Frank E. Stranges is just the beginning. The many wonderful truths in the book "Outwitting Tomorrow" are only the tip of the iceberg. Val Thor an Elohim or "Created Being" whose home is on Venus is the leader of the Solar Councils mission to earth. He was directly commissioned by Sananda-Yehoshua The Christ to oversee the planetary redemption plans to liberate earth and to make the people of earth aware that we are not alone in the universe.
Valiant Thor also has spoken to the United Nations on several occasions. Val has worked with the governments of the world to offer them interplanetary cultural exchange which would allow earth to advance in terms of technology. The governments or Cabal refused his offer of assistance to earth many years ago because it would threaten their positions of power and make our financial systems obsolete. Open contact would bring in free energy and advanced healing putting the pharmaceutical industries of sickness as well as the oil and electrical companies out of business as well. The Stranger at The Pentagon. He met Dr. Frank Stranges at the pentagon in 1957 and began a long association which has been the source of a tremendous volume of spiritual information that Dr. Frank faithfully revealed to the world over his 61 year ministry. Dr. Frank was an earthly member of the council of 12. This council was comprised of 6 space family members and 6 earthly counterparts. This council met regularly and discussed the plans and actions of how to administer humanity into the realization we are not alone on earth and we are responsible for our own spiritual awareness. Dr Frank was given many lessons on the true history of the earth. He was also taken to Venus several times and to the inner earth agarthan network where he actually saw unicorns, mastadons and other dinosaurs including the famous Sasquatch. Commander Thor introduced him to large benevolent beings from 9-14 feet tall. Dr Frank was chosen by Val to share the revelations of the Dead Sea Scrolls which have been hidden from humanity by the Jewish authorities. He was privileged to meet the Ascended master Yehoshua the Christ on several occasions and you hear details of these astounding encounters. He was able to view holograms of earths ancient history on special "History Coins" which projected the records of the Akashic right before his eyes. He shares the truth of the star of Bethlehem and When Moses met the Burning Bush. He shares the true eyewitness details of the Last Supper. You will learned who killed both Kennedy's and the location of the 12 Victor class spaceships which encircle the earth in their mission to oversee and protect the earth from hostile forces.
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Post by speak on Aug 10, 2021 23:20:59 GMT -5
Frank is a fake, false prophet. You put his stuff equal or above the Bible Nathan. Frank never met Jesus at all. Only the gullible would believe such stuff Nathan wrote 10 August 2021: "My guess majority of the workers don't believe in intelligence beings, angels from Venus or Jesus lives in Venus... If Valiant Thor appeared to the 2×2 overseers and told them Jesus is alive and lives inside Venus planet. Do you think they would receive the message gladly? or tell Valiant to get lost". Wonder why the workers don't believe this stuff? Who has the truth, Nathan or the workers? This man's testimony disagree with your opinion and your doubting Thomas syndrome. Frank Potter was a member of Inner Circle of Dr. Frank group/MelchizedekAll false.
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Post by nathan on Aug 10, 2021 23:58:04 GMT -5
This man's testimony disagree with your opinion and your doubting Thomas syndrome. Frank Potter was a member of Inner Circle of Dr. Frank group/Melchizedek All false. You don't even believe Jesus is God, the Co-Creator of all things in the Universe with God the Father, so it is false according to your 2x2 Anti-Trinity mind and understanding of course.
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Post by mountain on Aug 11, 2021 0:21:15 GMT -5
It's George Smith and Sir Frank George Diddington that we are talking about! And yet they could be joe blogs or tiddly winks from down the road, are your two anymore special? Yes indeed my dear Speak. George Smith is a retired newsagent who had a small shop near the bottom of my road. Great guy! Sir Frank.....well.....he is a fictitious character. But he's still a good guy!
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Post by mountain on Aug 11, 2021 0:22:52 GMT -5
Didn't Louis Pastor develop penicillin? Alexander Fleming developed penicillin. Louis Pasteur is the name you were looking for but you knew that anyway Louis is the guy who kicked off the road towards Eck discovering penicillin! Read up about it (as Nathan says!).
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Post by dmmichgood on Aug 11, 2021 0:50:06 GMT -5
Frank is a fake, false prophet. You put his stuff equal or above the Bible Nathan. Frank never met Jesus at all. Only the gullible would believe such stuff Nathan wrote 10 August 2021: "My guess majority of the workers don't believe in intelligence beings, angels from Venus or Jesus lives in Venus... If Valiant Thor appeared to the 2×2 overseers and told them Jesus is alive and lives inside Venus planet. Do you think they would receive the message gladly? or tell Valiant to get lost". Wonder why the workers don't believe this stuff? Who has the truth, Nathan or the workers? This man's testimony disagree with your opinion and your doubting Thomas syndrome. Frank Potter was a member of Inner Circle of Dr. Frank groupC was a member of Inner Circle of Dr. Frank group/Melchizedek
Nathan: Are you sure it was 'Frank Potter' who was the member of Inner Circle of Dr. Frank group?
I thought it was "Harry Potter," - you know, -the Harry Potter that went to the Hogwarts School of Witchcraft and Wizardy.
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Post by speak on Aug 11, 2021 0:57:59 GMT -5
You don't even believe Jesus is God, the Co-Creator of all things in the Universe with God the Father, so it is false according to your 2x2 Anti-Trinity mind and understanding of course. When the fruits of the spirit are demonstrated then one might be able to say "I am one of Jesus Christ followers".
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Post by nathan on Aug 11, 2021 1:09:08 GMT -5
You don't even believe Jesus is God, the Co-Creator of all things in the Universe with God the Father, so it is false according to your 2x2 Anti-Trinity mind and understanding of course. When the fruits of the spirit are demonstrated then one might be able to say "I am one of Jesus Christ followers". I haven't seen you showing the fruits of the spirit, Speak.... All I see most of the time is the OLD Speak, coming out from you jabbing and stabbing for many years on TMB, just like your old buddy elder, fixit.
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Post by Grant on Aug 11, 2021 1:35:47 GMT -5
You don't even believe Jesus is God, the Co-Creator of all things in the Universe with God the Father, so it is false according to your 2x2 Anti-Trinity mind and understanding of course. It's false according to everyone, those who believe in the Trinity and those who don't. Tell me one person on this board or one 2x2 who believes your Frank Strange, Valiant Thor Gospel?
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Post by BobWilliston on Aug 11, 2021 2:20:34 GMT -5
*** I believe that voice is from Satan on the beer... God's voice is to drink some nice cold glass of water! Really? "God's voice is to drink some nice cold glass of water."
Strange then that "His Son" turned that nice glass of water into wine." Makes one wonder what Nathan's been drinking.
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Post by Annan on Aug 11, 2021 7:07:56 GMT -5
When the fruits of the spirit are demonstrated then one might be able to say "I am one of Jesus Christ followers". I haven't seen you showing the fruits of the spirit, Speak.... All I see most of the time is the OLD Speak, coming out from you jabbing and stabbing for many years on TMB, just like your old buddy elder, fixit.Birds of a feather, Natie?
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Post by Annan on Aug 11, 2021 7:08:36 GMT -5
Really? "God's voice is to drink some nice cold glass of water."
Strange then that "His Son" turned that nice glass of water into wine." Makes one wonder what Nathan's been drinking. I didn't share my Gin&tonic. I swear!
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Post by nathan on Aug 11, 2021 8:25:57 GMT -5
You don't even believe Jesus is God, the Co-Creator of all things in the Universe with God the Father, so it is false according to your 2x2 Anti-Trinity mind and understanding of course. It's false according to everyone, those who believe in the Trinity and those who don't. Tell me one person on this board or one 2x2 who believes your Frank Strange, Valiant Thor Gospel? It doesn't matter who believes or NOT the Truth is the Truth. How MANY people believe in Jesus 1st century gospel? Only over 500 people out of the land of Israel. I Cor. 15
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Post by mountain on Aug 11, 2021 8:29:16 GMT -5
You don't even believe Jesus is God, the Co-Creator of all things in the Universe with God the Father, so it is false according to your 2x2 Anti-Trinity mind and understanding of course. Nathan, others may not agree with me, but as far as I am concerned, your belief that Jesus is God and creator of all things is absolutely false. You believe in a false God and a false Jesus. Being anti-trinity could hardly be a more correct stand to take. On this account I stand 100% with the workers. Those that think all the hollow Earth stuff, Venus, Frank what's his name, is all more important than the afore-stated have things way out of context.
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Post by nathan on Aug 11, 2021 8:34:50 GMT -5
I haven't seen you showing the fruits of the spirit, Speak.... All I see most of the time is the OLD Speak, coming out from you jabbing and stabbing for many years on TMB, just like your old buddy elder, fixit. Birds of a feather, Natie? Nope, They are NOT my birds of the same feathers, sorry. People KNOW it.1) Reborn/2x2 wrote: Here is some truth- Fixit/2x2 church elder has his own little AGENDA of OFF-ing people that are his true brothers or sisters in Christ by judging they have incorrect dogma. Speak/another 2x2 elder stands by and says nothing of the murderous spiritual intent there. No true brothers there. This has run parallel in this post pretty much the entire time. I brought it up yesterday because he would like to dispose of those whom he disagrees with. Here in the US this has happened to some, and quite frankly it is ugly. Thankful that my God will not let me go. 2) Openingact123 ex-2x2 wrote: I think she should look up some of the old threads where a senior worker severely denounced fixit. Do you think you know better than a worker? On the other hand, Nathan and Wally have NEVER been condemned by ANY workers on here. They have been wonderful examples of what it means to be professing and the spirit of what I've always found among professing people, while others seek to change God's perfect way in the earth. Now speak/2x2 church elder has also turned against the workers and allied himself with fixit. "Expel the wicked person from among you.” 1 Corinthians 5.
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Post by nathan on Aug 11, 2021 8:42:00 GMT -5
You don't even believe Jesus is God, the Co-Creator of all things in the Universe with God the Father, so it is false according to your 2x2 Anti-Trinity mind and understanding of course. Nathan, others may not agree with me, but as far as I am concerned, your belief that Jesus is God and creator of all things is absolutely false. You believe in a false God and a false Jesus. Being anti-trinity could hardly be a more correct stand to take. On this account I stand 100% with the workers. Those that think all the hollow Earth stuff, Venus, Frank what's his name, is all more important than the afore-stated have things way out of context. Sorry, Christ Jesus the Creator and God of all things disagree with you and the Bible scriptures to back it up also.~~ Jesus The Great " I AM " God (From The Dead Sea Scrolls found in caves 1947) I, the Lord God of creation, who was and who is and who shall always be the one true God, the mind, the very center of the Universe, speaks to your own heart. The words that I have spoken to my prophets Moses and others were that he should recognize that the great “I Am.” filled his being with the power and the authority to open his mouth in my name and to proclaim his words as a living words that I placed deeply within him. I have in times past spoken through the mouths of my prophets and then through the mouths of my apostles. Now the times and seasons are approaching, as are the reasons, when my words shall again be spoken by my obedient prophets and apostles. Their words shall be my words and their deeds that shall be my deeds, because I have spoken this thing before the World was ever formed. Those words that I now speak shall be hidden for a season and then shall be revealed in the last times I shall cause the Earth to quake and the sunlight, which represents the new dawning, shall shine brightly upon those who are appointed to carry my words from the darkness of the caves to the bright sunlight of my new revelation to all mankind ... and mankind shall read and they shall study those words and they shall find that they are the words that will cause an awakening to occur in the minds of mankind. It has been said in times past that I am in the wind and I am in the fire and I am into the waters. These words are not true. The truth of this matter is that I am the wind. I am the fire. I am the water. I am in everything and in everything that exists. When you touch the mountain, you touch me. When you are touching the water, you are touching me. When you touch the fire, you are touching me. I am the Lord of the Universe and there is not one place that I am not. I am not in the flowers, the plants, the fruit of the land, but I am the flowers. I am the plants. I am the fruit of the land. Mankind will climb into the heavens. I am not in the heavenly, but I am the heavenly. When I created man from the dust of the Earth, I was the dust of the Earth and I was and am the breath of life that causes mankind to live.
Say not that the Lord your God is in the heavens or on the Earth. I am the heavens and I am the Earth. Now you have received the true revelation of my word, which was spoken to you in times past. The word said that I am everywhere present. I am omnipresent. I am not part of myself, but rather I am the whole of the Universe. Wherever you look, wherever you come or go, whatever you do or say, I am there in the midst of you because I am not only in, but rather I am you! It shall be written in the future that man is the universe. I say to you that I do not dwell in the universe of mankind, but I am that Universe of Mankind, and there is no separation whatsoever. These words that I have spoken to you at this time and in this place are that you might believe the truth of the message that as my Father is one with me so is the Spirit one with me. Now I am likewise in you and you are in me and that means I am one and you are with me. Have I not spoken these words in the past that I am in you and you are in me? (John 17:21) Jesus said, " That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me." Let this testimony be with you forever and forever, as we together traverse the streets of that sojourn from dawn to night. Be at peace and look deeply within yourself and you will find me. Again I have spoken the words in the past that you are indeed gods. I am your God. This revelation is of utmost importance and you must believe the whole truth as I have spoken it in your pure hearing. I say to you, allow the vibrations of your spirit, your inner ear, be unstopped and hear what the Spirit says to you at this hour. I am the center of your universe, because I am the whole of your universe. Know this, for this is the word of the living God, the Creator of all things which are. In time and seasons to come this word will be revealed to you and you shall behold the brightness of this truth, and you shall say, “This is the light for which I have long awaited. This is the revelation that will hold and maintain me through every experience of life.” Beware, there are those who would destroy this truth, but they shall not be able to destroy this truth because the truth abides in you and you abide in the truth. I have spoken in times past. And I have said that the truth shall cause many to walk in freedom, out of darkness and satanic bondage. And they shall have no further influence or rule over you. I have spoken these truths by the words of my lips and these words are true. Accept them and you shall live in peace, in joy and in victory over all things. Amen! You are invited to share this information with others, but kindly acknowledge copyright and keep this article intact. © Dr. Frank E. Stranges
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Post by mountain on Aug 11, 2021 8:48:43 GMT -5
Nathan, others may not agree with me, but as far as I am concerned, your belief that Jesus is God and creator of all things is absolutely false. You believe in a false God and a false Jesus. Being anti-trinity could hardly be a more correct stand to take. On this account I stand 100% with the workers. Those that think all the hollow Earth stuff, Venus, Frank what's his name, is all more important than the afore-stated have things way out of context. Sorry, Christ Jesus the Creator and God of all things disagree with you and the Bible scriptures to back it up also.~~ Jesus The Great " I AM " God (From The Dead Sea Scrolls found in caves 1947) I, the Lord God of creation, who was and who is and who shall always be the one true God, the mind, the very center of the Universe, speaks to your own heart. The words that I have spoken to my prophets Moses and others were that he should recognize that the great “I Am.” filled his being with the power and the authority to open his mouth in my name and to proclaim his words as a living words that I placed deeply within him. I have in times past spoken through the mouths of my prophets and then through the mouths of my apostles. Now the times and seasons are approaching, as are the reasons, when my words shall again be spoken by my obedient prophets and apostles. Their words shall be my words and their deeds that shall be my deeds, because I have spoken this thing before the World was ever formed. Those words that I now speak shall be hidden for a season and then shall be revealed in the last times I shall cause the Earth to quake and the sunlight, which represents the new dawning, shall shine brightly upon those who are appointed to carry my words from the darkness of the caves to the bright sunlight of my new revelation to all mankind ... and mankind shall read and they shall study those words and they shall find that they are the words that will cause an awakening to occur in the minds of mankind. It has been said in times past that I am in the wind and I am in the fire and I am into the waters. These words are not true. The truth of this matter is that I am the wind. I am the fire. I am the water. I am in everything and in everything that exists. When you touch the mountain, you touch me. When you are touching the water, you are touching me. When you touch the fire, you are touching me. I am the Lord of the Universe and there is not one place that I am not. I am not in the flowers, the plants, the fruit of the land, but I am the flowers. I am the plants. I am the fruit of the land. Mankind will climb into the heavens. I am not in the heavenly, but I am the heavenly. When I created man from the dust of the Earth, I was the dust of the Earth and I was and am the breath of life that causes mankind to live.
Say not that the Lord your God is in the heavens or on the Earth. I am the heavens and I am the Earth. Now you have received the true revelation of my word, which was spoken to you in times past. The word said that I am everywhere present. I am omnipresent. I am not part of myself, but rather I am the whole of the Universe. Wherever you look, wherever you come or go, whatever you do or say, I am there in the midst of you because I am not only in, but rather I am you! It shall be written in the future that man is the universe. I say to you that I do not dwell in the universe of mankind, but I am that Universe of Mankind, and there is no separation whatsoever. These words that I have spoken to you at this time and in this place are that you might believe the truth of the message that as my Father is one with me so is the Spirit one with me. Now I am likewise in you and you are in me and that means I am one and you are with me. Have I not spoken these words in the past that I am in you and you are in me? (John 17:21) Jesus said, " That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me." Let this testimony be with you forever and forever, as we together traverse the streets of that sojourn from dawn to night. Be at peace and look deeply within yourself and you will find me. Again I have spoken the words in the past that you are indeed gods. I am your God. This revelation is of utmost importance and you must believe the whole truth as I have spoken it in your pure hearing. I say to you, allow the vibrations of your spirit, your inner ear, be unstopped and hear what the Spirit says to you at this hour. I am the center of your universe, because I am the whole of your universe. Know this, for this is the word of the living God, the Creator of all things which are. In time and seasons to come this word will be revealed to you and you shall behold the brightness of this truth, and you shall say, “This is the light for which I have long awaited. This is the revelation that will hold and maintain me through every experience of life.” Beware, there are those who would destroy this truth, but they shall not be able to destroy this truth because the truth abides in you and you abide in the truth. I have spoken in times past. And I have said that the truth shall cause many to walk in freedom, out of darkness and satanic bondage. And they shall have no further influence or rule over you. I have spoken these truths by the words of my lips and these words are true. Accept them and you shall live in peace, in joy and in victory over all things. Amen! You are invited to share this information with others, but kindly acknowledge copyright and keep this article intact. © Dr. Frank E. Stranges Now that is what I call a hollow argument!
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Post by nathan on Aug 11, 2021 8:55:37 GMT -5
Sorry, Christ Jesus the Creator and God of all things disagree with you and the Bible scriptures to back it up also.~~ Jesus The Great " I AM " God (From The Dead Sea Scrolls found in caves 1947) I, the Lord God of creation, who was and who is and who shall always be the one true God, the mind, the very center of the Universe, speaks to your own heart. The words that I have spoken to my prophets Moses and others were that he should recognize that the great “I Am.” filled his being with the power and the authority to open his mouth in my name and to proclaim his words as a living words that I placed deeply within him. I have in times past spoken through the mouths of my prophets and then through the mouths of my apostles. Now the times and seasons are approaching, as are the reasons, when my words shall again be spoken by my obedient prophets and apostles. Their words shall be my words and their deeds that shall be my deeds, because I have spoken this thing before the World was ever formed. Those words that I now speak shall be hidden for a season and then shall be revealed in the last times I shall cause the Earth to quake and the sunlight, which represents the new dawning, shall shine brightly upon those who are appointed to carry my words from the darkness of the caves to the bright sunlight of my new revelation to all mankind ... and mankind shall read and they shall study those words and they shall find that they are the words that will cause an awakening to occur in the minds of mankind. It has been said in times past that I am in the wind and I am in the fire and I am into the waters. These words are not true. The truth of this matter is that I am the wind. I am the fire. I am the water. I am in everything and in everything that exists. When you touch the mountain, you touch me. When you are touching the water, you are touching me. When you touch the fire, you are touching me. I am the Lord of the Universe and there is not one place that I am not. I am not in the flowers, the plants, the fruit of the land, but I am the flowers. I am the plants. I am the fruit of the land. Mankind will climb into the heavens. I am not in the heavenly, but I am the heavenly. When I created man from the dust of the Earth, I was the dust of the Earth and I was and am the breath of life that causes mankind to live.
Say not that the Lord your God is in the heavens or on the Earth. I am the heavens and I am the Earth. Now you have received the true revelation of my word, which was spoken to you in times past. The word said that I am everywhere present. I am omnipresent. I am not part of myself, but rather I am the whole of the Universe. Wherever you look, wherever you come or go, whatever you do or say, I am there in the midst of you because I am not only in, but rather I am you! It shall be written in the future that man is the universe. I say to you that I do not dwell in the universe of mankind, but I am that Universe of Mankind, and there is no separation whatsoever. These words that I have spoken to you at this time and in this place are that you might believe the truth of the message that as my Father is one with me so is the Spirit one with me. Now I am likewise in you and you are in me and that means I am one and you are with me. Have I not spoken these words in the past that I am in you and you are in me? (John 17:21) Jesus said, " That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me." Let this testimony be with you forever and forever, as we together traverse the streets of that sojourn from dawn to night. Be at peace and look deeply within yourself and you will find me. Again I have spoken the words in the past that you are indeed gods. I am your God. This revelation is of utmost importance and you must believe the whole truth as I have spoken it in your pure hearing. I say to you, allow the vibrations of your spirit, your inner ear, be unstopped and hear what the Spirit says to you at this hour. I am the center of your universe, because I am the whole of your universe. Know this, for this is the word of the living God, the Creator of all things which are. In time and seasons to come this word will be revealed to you and you shall behold the brightness of this truth, and you shall say, “This is the light for which I have long awaited. This is the revelation that will hold and maintain me through every experience of life.” Beware, there are those who would destroy this truth, but they shall not be able to destroy this truth because the truth abides in you and you abide in the truth. I have spoken in times past. And I have said that the truth shall cause many to walk in freedom, out of darkness and satanic bondage. And they shall have no further influence or rule over you. I have spoken these truths by the words of my lips and these words are true. Accept them and you shall live in peace, in joy and in victory over all things. Amen! You are invited to share this information with others, but kindly acknowledge copyright and keep this article intact. © Dr. Frank E. Stranges Now that is what I call a hollow argument! It's hollow and false according to you and your human's understanding but it's The gospel TRUTH according to Christ Jesus, the Almighty God. Jesus said it Read Rev. 1:8 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.
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Post by Annan on Aug 11, 2021 10:39:34 GMT -5
Birds of a feather, Natie? Nope, They are NOT my birds of the same feathers, sorry. People KNOW it.1) Reborn/2x2 wrote: Here is some truth- Fixit/2x2 church elder has his own little AGENDA of OFF-ing people that are his true brothers or sisters in Christ by judging they have incorrect dogma. Speak/another 2x2 elder stands by and says nothing of the murderous spiritual intent there. No true brothers there. This has run parallel in this post pretty much the entire time. I brought it up yesterday because he would like to dispose of those whom he disagrees with. Here in the US this has happened to some, and quite frankly it is ugly. Thankful that my God will not let me go. 2) Openingact123 ex-2x2 wrote: I think she should look up some of the old threads where a senior worker severely denounced fixit. Do you think you know better than a worker? On the other hand, Nathan and Wally have NEVER been condemned by ANY workers on here. They have been wonderful examples of what it means to be professing and the spirit of what I've always found among professing people, while others seek to change God's perfect way in the earth. Now speak/2x2 church elder has also turned against the workers and allied himself with fixit. "Expel the wicked person from among you.” 1 Corinthians 5. Perhaps we should start a thread about all the derogatory things that have been said about you, Natie. How very Christian of you. Fruits of the spirit, Natie?
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Post by Annan on Aug 11, 2021 10:41:13 GMT -5
It's false according to everyone, those who believe in the Trinity and those who don't. Tell me one person on this board or one 2x2 who believes your Frank Strange, Valiant Thor Gospel? It doesn't matter who believes or NOT the Truth is the Truth. How MANY people believe in Jesus 1st century gospel? Only over 500 people out of the land of Israel. I Cor. 15 The problem is, Natie, that you can't prove any of what you say. You quote liar hearsay. Not proof.
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Aug 11, 2021 15:14:22 GMT -5
Nathan, others may not agree with me, but as far as I am concerned, your belief that Jesus is God and creator of all things is absolutely false. You believe in a false God and a false Jesus. Being anti-trinity could hardly be a more correct stand to take. On this account I stand 100% with the workers. Those that think all the hollow Earth stuff, Venus, Frank what's his name, is all more important than the afore-stated have things way out of context. Sorry, Christ Jesus the Creator and God of all things disagree with you and the Bible scriptures to back it up also.~~ Jesus The Great " I AM " God (From The Dead Sea Scrolls found in caves 1947) I, the Lord God of creation, who was and who is and who shall always be the one true God, the mind, the very center of the Universe, speaks to your own heart. The words that I have spoken to my prophets Moses and others were that he should recognize that the great “I Am.” filled his being with the power and the authority to open his mouth in my name and to proclaim his words as a living words that I placed deeply within him. I have in times past spoken through the mouths of my prophets and then through the mouths of my apostles. Now the times and seasons are approaching, as are the reasons, when my words shall again be spoken by my obedient prophets and apostles. Their words shall be my words and their deeds that shall be my deeds, because I have spoken this thing before the World was ever formed. Those words that I now speak shall be hidden for a season and then shall be revealed in the last times I shall cause the Earth to quake and the sunlight, which represents the new dawning, shall shine brightly upon those who are appointed to carry my words from the darkness of the caves to the bright sunlight of my new revelation to all mankind ... and mankind shall read and they shall study those words and they shall find that they are the words that will cause an awakening to occur in the minds of mankind. It has been said in times past that I am in the wind and I am in the fire and I am into the waters. These words are not true. The truth of this matter is that I am the wind. I am the fire. I am the water. I am in everything and in everything that exists. When you touch the mountain, you touch me. When you are touching the water, you are touching me. When you touch the fire, you are touching me. I am the Lord of the Universe and there is not one place that I am not. I am not in the flowers, the plants, the fruit of the land, but I am the flowers. I am the plants. I am the fruit of the land. Mankind will climb into the heavens. I am not in the heavenly, but I am the heavenly. When I created man from the dust of the Earth, I was the dust of the Earth and I was and am the breath of life that causes mankind to live.
Say not that the Lord your God is in the heavens or on the Earth. I am the heavens and I am the Earth. Now you have received the true revelation of my word, which was spoken to you in times past. The word said that I am everywhere present. I am omnipresent. I am not part of myself, but rather I am the whole of the Universe. Wherever you look, wherever you come or go, whatever you do or say, I am there in the midst of you because I am not only in, but rather I am you! It shall be written in the future that man is the universe. I say to you that I do not dwell in the universe of mankind, but I am that Universe of Mankind, and there is no separation whatsoever. These words that I have spoken to you at this time and in this place are that you might believe the truth of the message that as my Father is one with me so is the Spirit one with me. Now I am likewise in you and you are in me and that means I am one and you are with me. Have I not spoken these words in the past that I am in you and you are in me? (John 17:21) Jesus said, " That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me." Let this testimony be with you forever and forever, as we together traverse the streets of that sojourn from dawn to night. Be at peace and look deeply within yourself and you will find me. Again I have spoken the words in the past that you are indeed gods. I am your God. This revelation is of utmost importance and you must believe the whole truth as I have spoken it in your pure hearing. I say to you, allow the vibrations of your spirit, your inner ear, be unstopped and hear what the Spirit says to you at this hour. I am the center of your universe, because I am the whole of your universe. Know this, for this is the word of the living God, the Creator of all things which are. In time and seasons to come this word will be revealed to you and you shall behold the brightness of this truth, and you shall say, “This is the light for which I have long awaited. This is the revelation that will hold and maintain me through every experience of life.” Beware, there are those who would destroy this truth, but they shall not be able to destroy this truth because the truth abides in you and you abide in the truth. I have spoken in times past. And I have said that the truth shall cause many to walk in freedom, out of darkness and satanic bondage. And they shall have no further influence or rule over you. I have spoken these truths by the words of my lips and these words are true. Accept them and you shall live in peace, in joy and in victory over all things. Amen! You are invited to share this information with others, but kindly acknowledge copyright and keep this article intact. © Dr. Frank E. Stranges How come you say that the scroll you quote from was found in the caves in 1947 and at other times you say that they were on Vlad's spaceship. Your fake scrolls bear no resemblance to the real scrolls which are in a museum in Israel. They are only fragments of scrolls due to the ravages of time. They are difficult to read because of missing texts. It is taking years for bible scolars and language experts to read them because of these factors. And then you come along with the Vlad scrolls which bear no resemblance to the real scrolls. There is another scroll which you have mentioned on here and I have told you is also fake. It is the one that is in one of Fwank's books. It is a photograph of a fragment of a real scroll but he has phtographed mirror image of it and then presented that mirror image as a DSS. He even tells what it says. If you cannot understand that and the implications behind it then I am astounded. That is one of the many instances of how Fwank is a fraudster and conman. That you believe him shows not only how gullible you are but shows to all that you prefer the company of fraudsters and conmen.
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Post by guest8 on Aug 11, 2021 15:49:21 GMT -5
Nope, They are NOT my birds of the same feathers, sorry. People KNOW it.1) Reborn/2x2 wrote: Here is some truth- Fixit/2x2 church elder has his own little AGENDA of OFF-ing people that are his true brothers or sisters in Christ by judging they have incorrect dogma. Speak/another 2x2 elder stands by and says nothing of the murderous spiritual intent there. No true brothers there. This has run parallel in this post pretty much the entire time. I brought it up yesterday because he would like to dispose of those whom he disagrees with. Here in the US this has happened to some, and quite frankly it is ugly. Thankful that my God will not let me go. 2) Openingact123 ex-2x2 wrote: I think she should look up some of the old threads where a senior worker severely denounced fixit. Do you think you know better than a worker? On the other hand, Nathan and Wally have NEVER been condemned by ANY workers on here. They have been wonderful examples of what it means to be professing and the spirit of what I've always found among professing people, while others seek to change God's perfect way in the earth. Now speak/2x2 church elder has also turned against the workers and allied himself with fixit. "Expel the wicked person from among you.” 1 Corinthians 5. Perhaps we should start a thread about all the derogatory things that have been said about you, Natie. How very Christian of you. Fruits of the spirit, Natie? Absolutely. Thats what his childish, hideous & arrogant head does not get. Its been 20 years of posters from all walks of life, commenting on Nathan. [ but then, I suspect he loves it]
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Post by intelchips on Aug 11, 2021 15:51:21 GMT -5
Nathan and the DSS. It's very difficult for me to read Nathan's writing because of his style. I'm not sure what the problem is, maybe he is thinking in tiếng Việt and then translating into English or something else. When I read "Mars planet" it's like fingernails scratching on a blackboard when my brain is expecting "the planet Mars." And yet on rare occasion he does write in perfectly acceptable English. Very strange. Anyway when he says "(From The Dead Sea Scrolls found in caves 1947)" to me that means from all the known scrolls. That they all say it. Elsewise, he would have mention the particular scroll number.
And in mention to the scrolls I would like to add the following:
The most significant objection raised by experts in the Dead Sea Scrolls is the issue of dating. The Scrolls appear to have been composed over a period between 200 BCE and 100 CE (Wise, Abegg, and Cook 2005, 15) However, the issue of greatest interest for the study is the question of when the group’s leader, the Teacher of Righteousness, was active. The dating of a particular scroll, the Habakkuk Pesher, has been used to suggest that the Teacher arose in either the second or early first century BCE (Atwill and Braunheim 2004, 148).
Scientific analysis has proved inconclusive, and disagreement on key issues prevails even among mainstream academics. To proceed in any discussion one must consider that several of the most notable sectarian documents, including the Community Rule (36 BCE-81 CE), Psalms Pesher (29 CE-81 CE), and the Messianic Apocalypse (39 BCE-66 CE), can be scientifically dated to the first century CE based on radiocarbon analysis (Doudna 1998, 469).
This then leads to a possibility that some of the scrolls may have been written during and after the time of Jesus, lending credit to what Robert Eisenman has labeled the “internal evidence” (Atwill and Braunheim 2004, 150) is entirely reasonable.
And I don't say this just because I enjoyed Eisenman as a professor but because for the last twenty years other academics saw him as a quack but at last the view is coming around. Perhaps after he is past beyond the majority will no-longer beat him up for his ideas.
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Post by nathan02 on Aug 11, 2021 16:09:17 GMT -5
Sorry, Christ Jesus the Creator and God of all things disagree with you and the Bible scriptures to back it up also.~~ Jesus The Great " I AM " God (From The Dead Sea Scrolls found in caves 1947) I, the Lord God of creation, who was and who is and who shall always be the one true God, the mind, the very center of the Universe, speaks to your own heart. The words that I have spoken to my prophets Moses and others were that he should recognize that the great “I Am.” filled his being with the power and the authority to open his mouth in my name and to proclaim his words as a living words that I placed deeply within him. I have in times past spoken through the mouths of my prophets and then through the mouths of my apostles. Now the times and seasons are approaching, as are the reasons, when my words shall again be spoken by my obedient prophets and apostles. Their words shall be my words and their deeds that shall be my deeds, because I have spoken this thing before the World was ever formed. Those words that I now speak shall be hidden for a season and then shall be revealed in the last times I shall cause the Earth to quake and the sunlight, which represents the new dawning, shall shine brightly upon those who are appointed to carry my words from the darkness of the caves to the bright sunlight of my new revelation to all mankind ... and mankind shall read and they shall study those words and they shall find that they are the words that will cause an awakening to occur in the minds of mankind. It has been said in times past that I am in the wind and I am in the fire and I am into the waters. These words are not true. The truth of this matter is that I am the wind. I am the fire. I am the water. I am in everything and in everything that exists. When you touch the mountain, you touch me. When you are touching the water, you are touching me. When you touch the fire, you are touching me. I am the Lord of the Universe and there is not one place that I am not. I am not in the flowers, the plants, the fruit of the land, but I am the flowers. I am the plants. I am the fruit of the land. Mankind will climb into the heavens. I am not in the heavenly, but I am the heavenly. When I created man from the dust of the Earth, I was the dust of the Earth and I was and am the breath of life that causes mankind to live.
Say not that the Lord your God is in the heavens or on the Earth. I am the heavens and I am the Earth. Now you have received the true revelation of my word, which was spoken to you in times past. The word said that I am everywhere present. I am omnipresent. I am not part of myself, but rather I am the whole of the Universe. Wherever you look, wherever you come or go, whatever you do or say, I am there in the midst of you because I am not only in, but rather I am you! It shall be written in the future that man is the universe. I say to you that I do not dwell in the universe of mankind, but I am that Universe of Mankind, and there is no separation whatsoever. These words that I have spoken to you at this time and in this place are that you might believe the truth of the message that as my Father is one with me so is the Spirit one with me. Now I am likewise in you and you are in me and that means I am one and you are with me. Have I not spoken these words in the past that I am in you and you are in me? (John 17:21) Jesus said, " That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me." Let this testimony be with you forever and forever, as we together traverse the streets of that sojourn from dawn to night. Be at peace and look deeply within yourself and you will find me. Again I have spoken the words in the past that you are indeed gods. I am your God. This revelation is of utmost importance and you must believe the whole truth as I have spoken it in your pure hearing. I say to you, allow the vibrations of your spirit, your inner ear, be unstopped and hear what the Spirit says to you at this hour. I am the center of your universe, because I am the whole of your universe. Know this, for this is the word of the living God, the Creator of all things which are. In time and seasons to come this word will be revealed to you and you shall behold the brightness of this truth, and you shall say, “This is the light for which I have long awaited. This is the revelation that will hold and maintain me through every experience of life.” Beware, there are those who would destroy this truth, but they shall not be able to destroy this truth because the truth abides in you and you abide in the truth. I have spoken in times past. And I have said that the truth shall cause many to walk in freedom, out of darkness and satanic bondage. And they shall have no further influence or rule over you. I have spoken these truths by the words of my lips and these words are true. Accept them and you shall live in peace, in joy and in victory over all things. Amen! You are invited to share this information with others, but kindly acknowledge copyright and keep this article intact. © Dr. Frank E. Stranges How come you say that the scroll you quote from was found in the caves in 1947 and at other times you say that they were on Vlad's spaceship. Your fake scrolls bear no resemblance to the real scrolls which are in a museum in Israel. They are only fragments of scrolls due to the ravages of time. They are difficult to read because of missing texts. It is taking years for bible scolars and language experts to read them because of these factors. And then you come along with the Vlad scrolls which bear no resemblance to the real scrolls. There is another scroll which you have mentioned on here and I have told you is also fake. It is the one that is in one of Fwank's books. It is a photograph of a fragment of a real scroll but he has phtographed mirror image of it and then presented that mirror image as a DSS. He even tells what it says. If you cannot understand that and the implications behind it then I am astounded. That is one of the many instances of how Fwank is a fraudster and conman. That you believe him shows not only how gullible you are but shows to all that you prefer the company of fraudsters and conmen. *** I don't know where Frank S. got the article from. Sorry, it's Real and authentic, believe it or NOT for the readers to decide. Christ is God Almighty! Rev. 1:8 He is our God and Creator according to the scriptures. Christ and God the Father Created Adam and Eve from the dust of the ground in Their image and Likeness. Genesis 1:26 The article is SPOT on, Jesus I AM God and also according to scriptures.
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Post by Annan on Aug 11, 2021 17:13:19 GMT -5
The readers have decided, Natie. We don’t believe your crap.
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Post by nathan02 on Aug 11, 2021 17:28:01 GMT -5
The readers have decided, Natie. We don’t believe your crap. *** I don't give a HOOT what you and your cronies on here believe it or NOT. I am thinking about my world wide Internet readers around the world. When they want to KNOW more about Valiant Thor, Frank Stranges they will see mamy of my pages writing about them. This message board is a stepping stone to broadcast the message to the world! For 20 years.
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