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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2021 12:22:05 GMT -5
so far you haven't been able to prove anything except that you are in no way a believer/christian/2x2... you had 24 million and one opportunities to say "if they don't see it like me they WONT BURN". What exactly are you a believer in again....... mass 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 I've never used the term "if you don't see it like me you'll burn"...good try though
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2021 12:23:18 GMT -5
There are Christians in N. Korea already. anywho everyone will get a chance to hear the gospel at some point. its not nathans narrow way its Gods/Jesus narrow way...the narrow way was defined almost 2000 years ago nathan wasn't even a twinkle in anyones eye 50 generations ago...good try though You say that "everyone will get a chance to hear the gospel at some point," but what about all the people who have died before that happens?its quite possible during the 1000 year reign those that did not have a chance may get one...
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Post by dmmichgood on Jun 7, 2021 12:56:29 GMT -5
You say that "everyone will get a chance to hear the gospel at some point," but what about all the people who have died before that happens? its quite possible during the 1000 year reign those that did not have a chance may get one... Dumb me! -of course!
When unable to make a reasonable explanation that makes any sense, -revert to just another impossible claim!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2021 15:13:44 GMT -5
its quite possible during the 1000 year reign those that did not have a chance may get one... Dumb me! -of course!
When unable to make a reasonable explanation that makes any sense, -revert to just another impossible claim!well the alternative i've heard is that those that never heard the gospel would never have accepted it anyways. i think between those two understandings the 1000 year reign is more merciful, yes?
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Post by dmmichgood on Jun 7, 2021 15:24:13 GMT -5
Dumb me! -of course!
When unable to make a reasonable explanation that makes any sense, -revert to just another impossible claim! well the alternative i've heard is that those that never heard the gospel would never have accepted it anyways. i think between those two understandings the 1000 year reign is more merciful, yes? You know what I think?
I think that mankind had became very adept at creating stories that fit what they wanted to believe rather than having to accept reality and that some people still can't let it go.
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Post by nathan02 on Jun 7, 2021 15:39:50 GMT -5
well the alternative i've heard is that those that never heard the gospel would never have accepted it anyways. i think between those two understandings the 1000 year reign is more merciful, yes? You know what I think?
I think that mankind had became very adept at creating stories that fit what they wanted to believe rather than having to accept reality and that some people still can't let it go.** God doesn't tell us a whole lot of details about what we will be doing during the 1000 years reign. We can only read from Jesus teachings that when he returns he will rewards his faithful servants and people to Rule over cities on this planet perhaps on other planets also.
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Post by chuck on Jun 7, 2021 15:58:07 GMT -5
Dumb me! -of course!
When unable to make a reasonable explanation that makes any sense, -revert to just another impossible claim! well the alternative i've heard is that those that never heard the gospel would never have accepted it anyways. i think between those two understandings the 1000 year reign is more merciful, yes? So there is another billion or so that don't see it like you..... 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 There is other alternatives that don't require torturing people not like you....
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Post by dmmichgood on Jun 7, 2021 16:12:09 GMT -5
You know what I think?
I think that mankind had became very adept at creating stories that fit what they wanted to believe rather than having to accept reality and that some people still can't let it go. ** God doesn't tell us a whole lot of details about what we will be doing during the 1000 years reign. We can only read from Jesus teachings that when he returns he will rewards his faithful servants and people to Rule over cities on this planet perhaps on other planets also. Well, -didn't I say that "mankind has became very adept at creating stories that fit what they wanted to believe?"
However, I don't understand why it is so pleasant for some people to think that it is so wonderful to be able to .."to Rule " over people anywhere Why is THAT a "reward?"
Is it because that is what they would like to be able to do now, -rule over others and make them do what they ordered them to do here on earth?
What would you like to do to people, Nathan, -if you were able to rule over other people?
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Post by nathan02 on Jun 7, 2021 16:34:56 GMT -5
** God doesn't tell us a whole lot of details about what we will be doing during the 1000 years reign. We can only read from Jesus teachings that when he returns he will rewards his faithful servants and people to Rule over cities on this planet perhaps on other planets also. Well, -didn't I say that "mankind has became very adept at creating stories that fit what they wanted to believe?"
However, I don't understand why it is so pleasant for some people to think that it is so wonderful to be able to .."to Rule " over people anywhere Why is THAT a "reward?"
Is it because that is what they would like to be able to do now, -rule over others and make them do what they ordered them to do here on earth?
What would you like to do to people, Nathan, -if you were able to rule over other people? ** I have to wait and find out what Christ has in stored for His servants and people during 1000 years reign. It seems to me God and Christ are teaching and training His servants and people on earth to be like Him in all things we do now, to prepare us for that 1000 years of reigning and ruling. It's going to be so marvelous and incredible time for God's people and servants to have apart in sharing Christ's kingdom of glory!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2021 17:47:38 GMT -5
well the alternative i've heard is that those that never heard the gospel would never have accepted it anyways. i think between those two understandings the 1000 year reign is more merciful, yes? So there is another billion or so that don't see it like you..... 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 There is other alternatives that don't require torturing people not like you.... there goes that guilt trip of yours again. you should fix that and pronto...time is short...
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Post by chuck on Jun 7, 2021 17:54:33 GMT -5
So there is 24 million people below the poverty line in North Korea who will never fine Nathan's narrow way ever. You've just condemned them to hell...... God KNOWS each and Every human hearts condition toward Him and His son Christ/God wherever they live on earth. God will judge every one by how much Truth of Christ they have KNOWN in their hearts. God gives each human being a mind and conscious to guide them in KNOWING what is RIGHT and WRONG so, they will be Judged by that, if they had NOT heard the gospel/teachings of Jesus Christ.Paul explained about these things in the book of Romans chapter 2. People sent to hades by their choice God did NOT want any human being to go to hades or the Lake of fire except Satan and the evil fallen angels but if the humans reject His gift of eternal life they will end up in both of those places. If they don't want to be with God, they better go and be with Satan and his evil disobedience angels.Jesus said in John 3:16-21 For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him. Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because they have not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son. This is the verdict: Light has come into the world, but people loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil. Everyone who does evil hates the light, and will not come into the light for fear that their deeds will be exposed. But whoever lives by the truth comes into the light, so that it may be seen plainly that what they have done has been done in the sight of God. I was trying to avoid this but........tThat is just plain dumb Nathan......... So are you saying God plonked people in unfortunate, dire, sad, helpless, hopeless, terrible, horrific, horrible, unthinkable, disgusting, frightening ect situations because he knew they were not going to look like you, worship like you, come crawling to you, see it like you, speak like thee.......... Who loves darkness....... Why do you assume the 24million below the poverty line in NK are evil??. By your standards we can't know the Lord because the poor and the needy were in that situation because they were evil to begin with........do you reconcile anything that comes out of your mouth with the reality of the world today? ?? He defended the cause of the poor and needy, and so all went well. Is that not what it means to know me?” declares the Lord. - Jeremiah 22:16 www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Jeremiah22:16&version=NIV
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Post by chuck on Jun 7, 2021 17:56:00 GMT -5
So there is another billion or so that don't see it like you..... 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 There is other alternatives that don't require torturing people not like you.... there goes that guilt trip of yours again. you should fix that and pronto...time is short... Will the 24 million under the poverty line through no fault of their own burn in hell for not seeing it like you wally?
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Post by nathan02 on Jun 7, 2021 18:00:57 GMT -5
you had 24 million and one opportunities to say "if they don't see it like me they WONT BURN". What exactly are you a believer in again....... mass 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 I've never used the term "if you don't see it like me you'll burn"...good try though ** That is Chuck phrase and he owns it.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2021 18:04:31 GMT -5
there goes that guilt trip of yours again. you should fix that and pronto...time is short... Will the 24 million under the poverty line through no fault of their own burn in hell for not seeing it like you wally? I've never used the term "if you don't see it like me you'll burn" you seem to have a thicker skull than the average bear cause that doesn't seem to be sinking in all that well...good try though
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2021 18:05:35 GMT -5
I've never used the term "if you don't see it like me you'll burn"...good try though ** That is Chuck phrase and he owns it. he is definitely on his way to surpassing the Queen of broken records for sure...
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Post by nathan02 on Jun 7, 2021 18:07:03 GMT -5
God KNOWS each and Every human hearts condition toward Him and His son Christ/God wherever they live on earth. God will judge every one by how much Truth of Christ they have KNOWN in their hearts. God gives each human being a mind and conscious to guide them in KNOWING what is RIGHT and WRONG so, they will be Judged by that, if they had NOT heard the gospel/teachings of Jesus Christ.Paul explained about these things in the book of Romans chapter 2. People sent to hades by their choice God did NOT want any human being to go to hades or the Lake of fire except Satan and the evil fallen angels but if the humans reject His gift of eternal life they will end up in both of those places. If they don't want to be with God, they better go and be with Satan and his evil disobedience angels. [/b] Jesus said in John 3:16-21 For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him. Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because they have not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son. This is the verdict: Light has come into the world, but people loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil. Everyone who does evil hates the light, and will not come into the light for fear that their deeds will be exposed. But whoever lives by the truth comes into the light, so that it may be seen plainly that what they have done has been done in the sight of God.[/quote] I was trying to avoid this but...That is just plain dumb Nathan. So are you saying God plonked people in unfortunate, dire, sad, helpless, hopeless, terrible, horrific, horrible, unthinkable, disgusting, frightening ect situations because he knew they were not going to look like you, worship like you, come crawling to you, see it like you, speak like thee.......... Who loves darkness....... Why do you assume the 24million below the poverty line in NK are evil??. By your standards we can't know the Lord because the poor and the needy were in that situation because they were evil to begin with........do you reconcile anything that comes out of your mouth with the reality of the world today?? He defended the cause of the poor and needy, and so all went well. Is that not what it means to know me?” declares the Lord. - Jeremiah 22:16 www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Jeremiah22:16&version=NIV[/quote] TELL it to Christ/God in the day of judgement and what he will say to you... 2000 year ago, Jesus said I am the Way; the Truth and Life no man come to the Father but through believing in me. Do you think Jesus is going to change that just because you and billions atheists don't agree with him.
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Post by Roselyn T on Jun 7, 2021 18:10:04 GMT -5
And you are an example of a Christian are you @wally !!! far more than any atheist here on TMB or elsewhere... Well if that's the case...why would anyone want to be a Christian? Thankfully there are people on here who show a Christian attitude, not a self righteous "sitting on the wall judging" attitude @wally !
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Post by Roselyn T on Jun 7, 2021 18:14:23 GMT -5
you had 24 million and one opportunities to say "if they don't see it like me they WONT BURN". What exactly are you a believer in again....... mass 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 I've never used the term "if you don't see it like me you'll burn"...good try though You don't have to "use the term " @wally...your self righteousness shines through for all to see !! Even the fact that you think you are 99% sure of going to heaven speaks for itself !!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2021 18:17:04 GMT -5
far more than any atheist here on TMB or elsewhere... Well if that's the case...why would anyone want to be a Christian? Thankfully there are people on here who show a Christian attitude, not a self righteous "sitting on the wall judging" attitude @wally ! heaven or hell the choice is yours....
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Post by Roselyn T on Jun 7, 2021 18:19:33 GMT -5
Dumb me! -of course!
When unable to make a reasonable explanation that makes any sense, -revert to just another impossible claim! well the alternative i've heard is that those that never heard the gospel would never have accepted it anyways. i think between those two understandings the 1000 year reign is more merciful, yes? What a load of absolute BS...I suppose a Worker said that !! What a way to justify their idea that "they are the only right way" !!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2021 18:22:43 GMT -5
I've never used the term "if you don't see it like me you'll burn"...good try though You don't have to "use the term " @wally ...your self righteousness shines through for all to see !! Even the fact that you think you are 99% sure of going to heaven speaks for itself !! being confident of ones destination is not self-righteousness by any measure...good try though cheerleader
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Post by Roselyn T on Jun 7, 2021 18:22:54 GMT -5
Well if that's the case...why would anyone want to be a Christian? Thankfully there are people on here who show a Christian attitude, not a self righteous "sitting on the wall judging" attitude @wally ! heaven or hell the choice is yours.... Who would want to be in "your heaven" @wally ? I suppose you think when you get there you will be given the job of "the watchman", so busy judging others because you are so perfect !!
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Post by Roselyn T on Jun 7, 2021 18:25:34 GMT -5
You don't have to "use the term " @wally ...your self righteousness shines through for all to see !! Even the fact that you think you are 99% sure of going to heaven speaks for itself !! being confident of ones destination is not self-righteousness by any measure...good try though cheerleader There is a difference between confidence and self righteousness @wally! You are so busy sitting on the wall judging...be careful or you might fall !!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2021 18:30:58 GMT -5
well the alternative i've heard is that those that never heard the gospel would never have accepted it anyways. i think between those two understandings the 1000 year reign is more merciful, yes? What a load of absolute BS...I suppose a Worker said that !! What a way to justify their idea that "they are the only right way" !! actually no i heard that from several worldly preachers not workers...workers generally say God knows everyone's hearts....good try though
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2021 18:32:52 GMT -5
heaven or hell the choice is yours.... Who would want to be in "your heaven" @wally ? I suppose you think when you get there you will be given the job of "the watchman", so busy judging others because you are so perfect !! no when you get to heaven your days of working are over(as far as we know). you would know this if you actually read your bible....good try though
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2021 18:34:21 GMT -5
being confident of ones destination is not self-righteousness by any measure...good try though cheerleader There is a difference between confidence and self righteousness @wally ! You are so busy sitting on the wall judging...be careful or you might fall !! that is just what i implied, reciting it back to me doesn't change anything...good try though
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Post by Roselyn T on Jun 7, 2021 18:49:58 GMT -5
What a load of absolute BS...I suppose a Worker said that !! What a way to justify their idea that "they are the only right way" !! actually no i heard that from several worldly preachers not workers...workers generally say God knows everyone's hearts....good try though Oh...so you believe what "worldly preachers" say as well as the Workers, @wally !!
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Post by chuck on Jun 7, 2021 19:04:15 GMT -5
I was trying to avoid this but........tThat is just plain dumb Nathan......... So are you saying God plonked people in unfortunate, dire, sad, helpless, hopeless, terrible, horrific, horrible, unthinkable, disgusting, frightening ect situations because he knew they were not going to look like you, worship like you, come crawling to you, see it like you, speak like thee.......... Who loves darkness....... Why do you assume the 24million below the poverty line in NK are evil??. By your standards we can't know the Lord because the poor and the needy were in that situation because they were evil to begin with........do you reconcile anything that comes out of your mouth with the reality of the world today? ?? He defended the cause of the poor and needy, and so all went well. Is that not what it means to know me?” declares the Lord. - Jeremiah 22:16 www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Jeremiah22:16&version=NIVTELL it to Christ/God in the day of judgement... Jesus said I am the Way; the Truth and Life no man come to the Father but through believing in me. Yes Nathan we all know. But there is a big difference between... Nathan's way is the only way to Jesus and Jesus saying I am the way. As soon as we say Nathan's way is the only way to Jesus we become God.........and elitist horrible people that say because xyz don't come my way to Jesus, God knew they were evil and put them is xyz situation because he is all loving....... What a copout Nathan........
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