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Post by christiansburg on Aug 29, 2021 17:30:19 GMT -5
Most of what's posted is more opinion than misinformation. Even the experts disagree about mask, vaccines, etc. Who was it that said that the virus was "not driven by asymptomatic carriers" and that "people should not be walking around with masks" (Dr. Fauci March 2020). There seems to be more confusion about this virus than reliable information, so speculation abounds. Right. Masks have been disputed before. 1918-- mask mandate imposed. The elite and privileged did what they wanted and often went maskless. When ordinary people saw this they revolted and mask mandated was ended. In 1987 the CDC did a test and concluded they were ineffective. Fauci an Bich exchanged E-mail in which he said: "We know that mask don't protect you but it gives people a sense of comfort". Should we believe in mask? I report you decide. |
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Post by 1chinesewhispers on Aug 29, 2021 17:50:34 GMT -5
The politicising of Covid response makes no sense to us who are outside of the US. Today I received an email from the New Zealand leader of the National Party Opposition. They support some of the government's decisions yet hold the government to account as well. That's how democratic government should work. Anyway, here it is... I hope you are all safe and well at home as the Level 4 lockdown continues. Like me, you’re likely feeling anxious about what’s happening and how we’ll get through this new challenge. First, caucus and I are absolutely clear that decisive action is needed to prevent further community spread of the Delta variant and the need to act decisively to curb this outbreak. We will support the Government to do what’s needed to get New Zealand back to some degree or normality as soon as possible. But we will – and must – continue to hold the Government to account for decisions it has made that have led us to where we are now. National has strongly and consistently advocated a faster and more widespread Covid vaccination programme. Only by vaccinating as many Kiwis and quickly as possible will we stand any chance of regaining the freedoms we all cherish. But there’s a long way to go and a lot of work to be done. Our mantra is: vaccinate, vaccinate, vaccinate. If you have an existing vaccination appointment, please keep it. If you are able to book a vaccination, it’s imperative you do so. In the meantime, if you have visited any locations of interest or have cold, flu, or Covid symptoms, call Healthline on 0800 358 5453 or your doctor or Iwi health provider. They will tell you if you should get a Covid test. If you do need to go out, wear a face covering and stay 2 metres from others. You can go for a walk, run, or bike ride in your local area ensuring to keep 2 metres from anyone who isn’t in your ‘bubble’. Exercise is good for your mental health. We know how difficult this is for everyone and encourage you to reach out to friends, family and whānau via phone or online to check in and support one another. Stay safe, New Zealand. Financial Support for Business Small and medium-sized businesses make up a huge proportion of our economy. These businesses are also the most likely to be put under financial stress by the lockdown. I urge business-owners to learn about assistance that is available to those that need it: The Wage Subsidy Scheme (WSS) allows eligible employers anywhere in the country to apply for the WSS if they expect a loss of 40 percent of revenue as a result of the lockdown. The Resurgence Support Payment (RSP) is available if firms incur a loss of 30 percent of revenue as a result of the lockdown. The Leave Support Scheme (LSS) provides a two-week lump sum payment of either $585.80 per week for fulltime workers, or $350 per week for part-time workers, who must self-isolate and cannot work from home. The Short-Term Absence Payment (STAP) provides a one-off (once per 30 days) $350 payment for workers who must miss work due to a COVID-19 test and cannot work from home. Please don’t hesitate to contact your local electorate office by email if you need to learn more about these assistance programmes. What we are doing Even though we’re in lockdown, caucus and I are meeting regularly via Zoom to talk about developments and plan for a safe and speedy exit from lockdown. At this stage we will remain in our electorates, though we may be required to return to Wellington if circumstances demand. In times of crisis like this, it’s vital we keep a close eye on what’s happening and the decisions being made by Government. Our focus is on ensuring the Government makes the right decisions, at the right times, for the right reasons. Rest assured that while we are supportive of actions that will end this lockdown, we will be questioning and testing the Government ‘s rationale all the way. In a democracy, it is important that there is effective scrutiny of Government. We believe that if other parliaments are able to operate under lockdowns, then the Government should enable opportunities for Parliament to exercise its democratic duty. Arguably, given the failures at the border, and of the vaccine rollout, that scrutiny is needed more than ever. Judith Collins Leader And this too:
ēnā katoa tātau i roto i ngā tini whakawai o te wā. Ko te mate korona e whakararuraru ana i a tātau e noho motu ana ki ngā wā kāinga, heoi mā te ū ki ngā tikanga e ora ai tātau, haere ake nei.
E tangi ana ki ngā mate e hinga tonu ana i te pō, i te ao, e moe, e oki. Hoki tonu mai ki a tātau te kanohi, tēnā tātau. E rere ana ngā mihi ki tō tātau Kīngi, ki a Kīngi Tūheitia Pōtatau VII i whakanuia i tōna rā koroneihana ngahuru mā rima i te rāhoroi 21 o Akuhata nei.
Kia ora whānau
As the motu returns into what life is like under lockdown, we though it was a good chance to connect in with you and check that everyone is well.
Lockdown 2.0 still has a heap of unknown factors but it’s also a chance for us to share some of the key things to ensure we are looking after ourselves to ensure we protect our whakapapa.
To help us through the lockdown period, our comms team has set up a social media LIVE programme called Māori On Lock. We will be running daily sessions on our facebook platforms throughout the week. You can find the schedule here Māori on Lock
As we all know, we will be informed of the status of our lockdown this Tuesday 24 August, but no matter what happens, we must continue to #ProtectOurWhakapapa and remember that Level 4 means:
Stay home (unless you are an essential worker);
Maintain your bubble and don’t mix with others;
Safe recreational activities like walking and running in your local area is allowed;
No gatherings are allowed including: hui, events, tangihanga or funerals;
Select one person to be your shopper; and
Check in on your whānau or neighbour by giving them a phone call or calling out from over the fence to check they are ok.
Remember, you can always reach out to your local Whānau Ora provider, Iwi Office or other local entities in your rohe to ask for help. Please reach out for help if you need it or even ring our MPs on:
Rawiri on: 0800WAIARIKI
Debbie on: 0800WHAEADEB
Stay safe whānau and you can renew or become a member here or koha here. We are also revamping our website and will have a volunteer page soon.
Arohanui
Che Wilson
NZ Maori Party Uuhhggg we live next door to them (Canada) There has been a snap election ordered for September . But COVID-19 is not really being thrown around . Our government has put almost the same provisions already in place here . We are using them . However we are heading for another lockdown . Most people are okay with that . Lots of positive things are happening . No movie theater , but maybe a board game with family in home instead . Guess it’s what each person makes of it . |
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Post by dmmichgood on Aug 29, 2021 18:35:17 GMT -5
Most of what's posted is more opinion than misinformation. Even the experts disagree about mask, vaccines, etc. Who was it that said that the virus was "not driven by asymptomatic carriers" and that "people should not be walking around with masks" (Dr. Fauci March 2020). There seems to be more confusion about this virus than reliable information, so speculation abounds. Right. Masks have been disputed before. 1918-- mask mandate imposed. The elite and privileged did what they wanted and often went maskless. When ordinary people saw this they revolted and mask mandated was ended. In 1987 the CDC did a test and concluded they were ineffective. Fauci an Bich exchanged E-mail in which he said: "We know that mask don't protect you but it gives people a sense of comfort". Should we believe in mask? I report you decide
Christiansburg, I would like to know more of the history about masks in 1918.
Can you give us a link to where you found that information?
When I was buying and reselling books, I had a large book about the history of the 1918-1919 pandemic but never read it and resold it long before this present pandemic.
Wish I still had it!
Also can you give a link where doctors Fauci and Bich discussed the subject of masks via e-mail?
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Post by 1chinesewhispers on Aug 30, 2021 12:58:06 GMT -5
Once again so personal
We had to make a choice for every day . My son-in-law & I had to make a decision between our loved one & COVID-19 in the ICU . Even minutes . When alarms went off by her bed we had to leave . Hopeful that it was a glitch in technology !
The risk was huge , we chose my daughter . We could have got COVID-19 . No vaccinations in August 2020 . We were told not to touch her in anyway . We been bonded with other families . Her wishes payed a big part into her coming home . She could be touched , held , kissing with her cats and family . We knew the virus 🦠 could be deadly . If she signaled she wanted a milkshake , we got it , knowing she might just able to have a spoonful . I personally would have given anything including my life for her . We had been told she was not viable by doctors . She would die no matter what they did . I feel for the medical workers that had to tell a parent that . No vaccination 💉 available for us .
Presently we have a sign at end of driveway that says drop at curb . It may not be a good idea to knock on our door . My mental health issues causes involuntary ticks . I have no control of that side affect . At mom’s final days her Parkinson’s was quiet , gone . She would raise a arm and say help me . All I could do was talk quietly and take her hand . Many people suffer the ticks in their illnesses . You might get a punch 🥊 .
Again very personal , but hoping someone will get a vaccination 💉 .
Yes research the FLU of 1918 & 1919 .
I truly have to disengage for awhile . Technology is great but can cause fear and anxiety and panic
As John Lennon said :
I read the news today OH BOY
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Post by fixit on Aug 30, 2021 14:10:38 GMT -5
Most of what's posted is more opinion than misinformation. Even the experts disagree about mask, vaccines, etc. Who was it that said that the virus was "not driven by asymptomatic carriers" and that "people should not be walking around with masks" (Dr. Fauci March 2020). There seems to be more confusion about this virus than reliable information, so speculation abounds. What I'm seeing is the anti-vax cult circulating old and no longer relevant information. www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2021/06/03/fact-check-missing-context-claim-mask-emails-fauci/7531267002/ |
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Post by 1chinesewhispers on Aug 30, 2021 17:51:02 GMT -5
It is being pushed by anti-vacc - for Delta , COVID 19
They are dying now and before they leave, they are shouting 2 get vaccinated !
I guess everyone has the choice now .
Because they don’t believe in science . Maybe I am selfish , because I WANT TOO LIVE !
It’s about my loved ones to me .
Not about money . Absolutely not . There are programs in place to help businesses .
Perhaps because it took my daughter . About 4 months ago, my granddaughter asked about getting pregnant . I said no , baby is on it’s way . Talk about mixed emotions . Yep I would love another great grand baby . Their choice not mine .
Seems shallow if it’s about money . That is selfish !!!
Not the mankind we were taught !
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Post by Dan on Aug 30, 2021 20:31:47 GMT -5
My sister (67) and her husband (71 today), both tested positive for covid and are home sick now. Last I heard, neither had been vaccinated, so I'm pretty worried about them.
They are in Florida where the delta variant is running rampant.
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Post by BobWilliston on Aug 30, 2021 21:00:03 GMT -5
My sister (67) and her husband (71 today), both tested positive for covid and are home sick now. Last I heard, neither had been vaccinated, so I'm pretty worried about them. They are in Florida where the delta variant is running rampant. This is not a good situation for them. I hope they can come through it. |
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Post by matisse on Aug 30, 2021 21:24:07 GMT -5
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Post by fixit on Aug 31, 2021 1:14:16 GMT -5
My sister (67) and her husband (71 today), both tested positive for covid and are home sick now. Last I heard, neither had been vaccinated, so I'm pretty worried about them. They are in Florida where the delta variant is running rampant. I wish them the best Dan. I'm concerned for my little brother who has been sucked into the anti-vax cult. |
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Post by Pragmatic on Aug 31, 2021 3:40:20 GMT -5
My sister (67) and her husband (71 today), both tested positive for covid and are home sick now. Last I heard, neither had been vaccinated, so I'm pretty worried about them. They are in Florida where the delta variant is running rampant. I wish them the best Dan. I'm concerned for my little brother who has been sucked into the anti-vax cult. Hopefully they can come through it Dan, with no lasting “long Covid” I have a friend who has been sucked into the anti-vax movement, and it is so difficult, because rational discussion just goes out the window. Some of these people are genuinely fearful of Microchips, big Pharma control etc, and you can’t “confuse their faith with facts”. |
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Post by speak on Aug 31, 2021 5:19:39 GMT -5
My sister (67) and her husband (71 today), both tested positive for covid and are home sick now. Last I heard, neither had been vaccinated, so I'm pretty worried about them. They are in Florida where the delta variant is running rampant. I wish them the best Dan. I'm concerned for my little brother who has been sucked into the anti-vax cult. The same with my youngest sister.  |
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Post by intelchips on Aug 31, 2021 7:31:15 GMT -5
I wish them the best Dan. I'm concerned for my little brother who has been sucked into the anti-vax cult. Hopefully they can come through it Dan, with no lasting “long Covid” I have a friend who has been sucked into the anti-vax movement, and it is so difficult, because rational discussion just goes out the window. Some of these people are genuinely fearful of Microchips, big Pharma control etc, and you can’t “confuse their faith with facts”. The Micro Chips are really quite wonderful. I got lost last week and they found me within minutes and came and took me back to the home. |
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Post by xna on Aug 31, 2021 8:09:45 GMT -5
My sister (67) and her husband (71 today), both tested positive for covid and are home sick now. Last I heard, neither had been vaccinated, so I'm pretty worried about them. They are in Florida where the delta variant is running rampant. Sad news. Odds are they will survive, but will experience a rough time. I wonder if they were able to get vaccinated and chose not to, or did not get vaccinated due to a medical reason? Lots of places in FL where you can get a free a covid vaccination, and no waiting. FHA Survey: 68 Florida Hospitals Have Less Than 48 Hours Worth Of Oxygen |
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Post by Annan on Aug 31, 2021 8:16:47 GMT -5
My sister (67) and her husband (71 today), both tested positive for covid and are home sick now. Last I heard, neither had been vaccinated, so I'm pretty worried about them. They are in Florida where the delta variant is running rampant. I wish them the best Dan. I'm concerned for my little brother who has been sucked into the anti-vax cult. The same for my daughter. I don't want my eight-year-old granddaughter to grow up without a mother. |
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Post by fixit on Aug 31, 2021 14:30:39 GMT -5
I guess "liking" a post DOES NOT mean liking the sad news therein?
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Post by fixit on Aug 31, 2021 14:58:30 GMT -5
"I can't breathe" is becoming an issue for many who despised the black lives matter protests after George Floyd's murder.
Instead of a policeman kneeling on their neck they have befriended a tiny virus that is achieving the same result.
Is that Karma?
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Aug 31, 2021 23:03:45 GMT -5
"I can't breathe" is becoming an issue for many who despised the black lives matter protests after George Floyd's murder. Instead of a policeman kneeling on their neck they have befriended a tiny virus that is achieving the same result. Is that Karma? It will be easier to bring the virus under control than the inept poor excuses for police officers in the USA. |
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Post by fixit on Sept 1, 2021 0:55:17 GMT -5
"I can't breathe" is becoming an issue for many who despised the black lives matter protests after George Floyd's murder. Instead of a policeman kneeling on their neck they have befriended a tiny virus that is achieving the same result. Is that Karma? It will be easier to bring the virus under control than the inept poor excuses for police officers in the USA. There's some great people in law enforcement in the US but they are let down by the rogues. |
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Post by fixit on Sept 7, 2021 23:11:15 GMT -5
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Post by BobWilliston on Sept 8, 2021 0:30:31 GMT -5
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Post by fixit on Sept 8, 2021 3:31:22 GMT -5
My sister (67) and her husband (71 today), both tested positive for covid and are home sick now. Last I heard, neither had been vaccinated, so I'm pretty worried about them. They are in Florida where the delta variant is running rampant. Are they doing OK now Dan? |
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Post by Annan on Sept 8, 2021 7:02:06 GMT -5
I have a friend who has covid for the third time. He thinks because he survived the first two times that he will be okay this time.
I know people who won't get the flu shot. I never got the flu shot as I never got the flu. Till I started hospice and got the flu 3-4 times a year! After my yearly flu shots, no more flu. Why suffer???
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Post by fixit on Sept 8, 2021 14:18:48 GMT -5
I have a friend who has covid for the third time. He thinks because he survived the first two times that he will be okay this time. I know people who won't get the flu shot. I never got the flu shot as I never got the flu. Till I started hospice and got the flu 3-4 times a year! After my yearly flu shots, no more flu. Why suffer??? Exactly. The virus that causes Covid was a "novel" corona virus when it first appeared at the end of 2019. "Novel" means a new strain. It was new to the human body so it was new to even the healthiest human immune system. No amount of health foods, vitamins, excercise and quackery could prepare the human immune system to fight off this new enemy. The best defense by far is the antibodies stimulated by a vaccine.  |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2021 14:46:43 GMT -5
I have a friend who has covid for the third time. He thinks because he survived the first two times that he will be okay this time. I know people who won't get the flu shot. I never got the flu shot as I never got the flu. Till I started hospice and got the flu 3-4 times a year! After my yearly flu shots, no more flu. Why suffer??? Exactly. The virus that causes Covid was a "novel" corona virus when it first appeared at the end of 2019. "Novel" means a new strain. It was new to the human body so it was new to even the healthiest human immune system. No amount of health foods, vitamins, excercise and quackery could prepare the human immune system to fight off this new enemy. The best defense by far is the antibodies stimulated by a vaccine. That wouldn't be the truth and misinformation. As of DEC 2020 roughly Nineteen million had caught the virus and survived it without the vaccination minus about 340,000 that had died. covidtracking.com/data/national |
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Post by Grant on Sept 8, 2021 15:46:04 GMT -5
Exactly. The virus that causes Covid was a "novel" corona virus when it first appeared at the end of 2019. "Novel" means a new strain. It was new to the human body so it was new to even the healthiest human immune system. No amount of health foods, vitamins, excercise and quackery could prepare the human immune system to fight off this new enemy. The best defense by far is the antibodies stimulated by a vaccine. That wouldn't be the truth and misinformation. As of DEC 2020 roughly Nineteen million had caught the virus and survived it without the vaccination minus about 340,000 that had died. covidtracking.com/data/nationalThe link did not work but going by your post, 19 million got it without the vaccine and 340,000 died. Wonder how many would not have got it or got it milder, let alone not died if they had of had the vaccine. Your post is another example of your bias. |
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Post by BobWilliston on Sept 8, 2021 17:05:37 GMT -5
That wouldn't be the truth and misinformation. As of DEC 2020 roughly Nineteen million had caught the virus and survived it without the vaccination minus about 340,000 that had died. covidtracking.com/data/nationalThe link did not work but going by your post, 19 million got it without the vaccine and 340,000 died. Wonder how many would not have got it or got it milder, let alone not died if they had of had the vaccine. Your post is another example of your bias. He's far behind the news. The US has not passed a total of 40 million covid-19 (known) cases, and 600,000 deaths. www.bing.com/search?q=US+covid+death+count&form=ANNTH1&refig=6096cf57c0434919ae833df1443e2c4a |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2021 17:39:30 GMT -5
Fixit was talking about people without the vaccine I showed data relative to that which would have been prior to the vaccine or DEC 2020...keep up |
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