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Post by Pragmatic on Aug 9, 2021 4:23:18 GMT -5
You are correct Lee.
Masking fact- During slavery slaves were forced to wear masks as to symbolically mark them as not having a voice and to be owned and under the control of another person.
This includes child and adult sex slaves to this day, even now a child is sold into sex slavery every few minutes. Sounds like urban legend to me. Of course some owners may have done, and certainly the iron muzzle was used on some slaves, but that was more for discipline, food rationing etc, still despicable of course. In my family ancestry back in South Africa, the slaves were caged, and chained. |
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Post by Lee on Aug 9, 2021 10:07:01 GMT -5
I read the man in the arena yesterday. The Theodore Roosevelt speech was also called 'citizen of a republic’.
TR was a principled progressive.
Progressives today are unprincipled.
They smell blood in Christian conservatism.
It will mean their own.
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Post by Lee on Aug 9, 2021 10:15:12 GMT -5
You're such a liar. The Chinese who suffered Maos revolution hated him You want to see America suffer today for its sins in its past? Admit your own sins, sinner! If you’re planning to carry axes into Christ’s kingdom, you’ll enter a poor man indeed. What about the Axe of the Apostles? Well you started the stupidity by saying the Covid Test isn't real. You obviously know nothing about it, nor the genomic sequencing from it. I do care about the origins of Covid, and the CCP being less than transparent. Some of that is also cultural, and anyone who deals with the Asians in the business world understands that "loss of face" cultural sensitivity they have. However, debating semantics is not going solving the "here and now's". There will be time for that later.
Incidentally, Wuhan is in lockdown right now, and they are testing all 11 million of them.
thats what terrorist governments do. the cdc has condemned the chi-com pcr test for covid. who is the axe of the apostles? |
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Post by Lee on Aug 9, 2021 10:46:09 GMT -5
In what country did this happen where "slaves were forced to wear masks as to symbolically mark them as not having a voice and to be owned and under the control of another person?" Sounds like urban legend to me. Of course some owners may have done, and certainly the iron muzzle was used on some slaves, but that was more for discipline, food rationing etc, still despicable of course. In my family ancestry back in South Africa, the slaves were caged, and chained. Blue oyster cult. Fire of unknown origins album cover. Predictive art as they say. The subjects are hooded and wear humanesque masks. |
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Post by Lee on Aug 9, 2021 10:49:03 GMT -5
A cage and a chain is a mask of sorts lol. To an onlooker, it’s “don’t wanna be them”
When we mask not out of our volition but because someone coerced us, we are being exercised into chains.
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Post by Lee on Aug 9, 2021 11:07:14 GMT -5
“I’m living for giving the devil his due”
Thanks Eric Bloom. Ya made lots of money. Good job.
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Some musicians are rethinking their relationship with Satan.
Eric Clapton, after his hands were paralyzed for a time after the jab
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Post by Lee on Aug 9, 2021 11:11:06 GMT -5
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Post by verna on Aug 9, 2021 11:14:50 GMT -5
What? Is this a theoretical question? Most people I know have been vaccinated. None are dead or even ill. |
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Post by Lee on Aug 9, 2021 11:30:03 GMT -5
If in 1 million people vaccinated people have 1000 have serious side effects or death, and if a control of a 1 million people have exactly 1000 serious side effects or death, is the vaccination campaign rational and benevolent? I say no!
1000 to 1000000 is 1 to 1000. At ground level, you can not do good “science”.
The communists know this and are using this to their advantage to advance their control in the court of their media controlled, public opinion.
Not to mention, their phalanx of government, butt f*u*c*k*ing friendly, corporations.
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Post by verna on Aug 9, 2021 12:25:19 GMT -5
If in 1 million people vaccinated people have 1000 have serious side effects or death, and if a control of a 1 million people have exactly 1000 serious side effects or death, is the vaccination campaign rational and benevolent? I say no! 1000 to 1000000 is 1 to 1000. At ground level, you can not do good “science”. The communists know this and are using this to their advantage to advance their control in the court of their media controlled, public opinion. Not to mention, their phalanx of government, butt f*u*c*k*ing friendly, corporations. This is the question you asked “Let’s do math and ethics for a minute. If a vaccine can save a thousand while killing a thousand people, does it matter whether or not we administer the vaccine.” Lee I suspect indoctrination is involved when what a person says makes sense only to the people in their group. I find this often in your posts. I don’t have a clue what you’re talking about and I’m not generally considered to be of low intelligence. Please do me a favour if you would be so kind and remember that you are not necessarily speaking to people who believe as you do. |
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Post by dmmichgood on Aug 9, 2021 13:09:42 GMT -5
I went to that link wally and I did not see anything about "obama-seen-dancing-maskless-booze-."
Am I missing something?Happy 60th
YOU wouldn't even close down YOUR business, which was considered a "non-essential" and was supposed to shut down! 
Just what is so terrible about an ex-president celebrating their birthday?
Since Obama is no longer President, -it was not as if Obama was neglecting his duties.
Obama birthday celebration also happened at time when there was a lull in the number of cases of the virus and people were getting vaccinated and restrictions all over the country were being relaxed.
Please try to tell me what is the big deal about Obama celebrating his birthday that is causing you and wally to be so nasty about it?
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Post by BobWilliston on Aug 9, 2021 13:22:04 GMT -5
DAN! Did YOU not celebrate YOUR birthday during of the Covid-19 virus?
YOU wouldn't even close down YOUR business, which was considered a "non-essential" and was supposed to shut down!
Just what is so terrible about an ex-president celebrating their birthday?
Since Obama is no longer President, -it was not as if Obama was neglecting his duties.
Obama birthday celebration also happened at time when there was a lull in the number of cases of the virus and people were getting vaccinated and restrictions all over the country were being relaxed.
Please try to tell me what is the big deal about Obama celebrating his birthday that is causing you and wally to be so nasty about it?
Like either one of the cares a hoot. |
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Post by dmmichgood on Aug 9, 2021 13:24:14 GMT -5
If in 1 million people vaccinated people have 1000 have serious side effects or death, and if a control of a 1 million people have exactly 1000 serious side effects or death, is the vaccination campaign rational and benevolent? I say no! 1000 to 1000000 is 1 to 1000. At ground level, you can not do good “science”. The communists know this and are using this to their advantage to advance their control in the court of their media controlled, public opinion. Not to mention, their phalanx of government, butt f*u*c*k*ing friendly, corporations. This is the question you asked “Let’s do math and ethics for a minute. If a vaccine can save a thousand while killing a thousand people, does it matter whether or not we administer the vaccine.” Lee I suspect indoctrination is involved when what a person says makes sense only to the people in their group. I find this often in your posts. I don’t have a clue what you’re talking about and I’m not generally considered to be of low intelligence. Please do me a favour if you would be so kind and remember that you are not necessarily speaking to people who believe as you do.
Verna, I think that Lee's problem might be due to his original fear of a communist lurking under his bed and now with this the terrible virus happening the number of those phantom communists under his bed has reached a critical level and they keeping him awake to where is having difficulty thinking straight. |
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Post by BobWilliston on Aug 9, 2021 13:31:34 GMT -5
This is the question you asked “Let’s do math and ethics for a minute. If a vaccine can save a thousand while killing a thousand people, does it matter whether or not we administer the vaccine.” Lee I suspect indoctrination is involved when what a person says makes sense only to the people in their group. I find this often in your posts. I don’t have a clue what you’re talking about and I’m not generally considered to be of low intelligence. Please do me a favour if you would be so kind and remember that you are not necessarily speaking to people who believe as you do.
Verna, I think that Lee's problem might be due to his original fear of a communist lurking under his bed and now with this the terrible virus happening the number of those phantom communists under his bed has reached a critical level and they keeping him awake to where is having difficulty thinking straight.It's a common condition in American society. www.msn.com/en-us/news/opinion/vaccine-paranoia-why-right-wingers-are-worried-about-their-precious-bodily-fluids/ar-AAN6hsG?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531 |
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Post by Lee on Aug 9, 2021 13:32:25 GMT -5
Lee’s reality is that Satan was already farming the soil he would be born into.
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Post by BobWilliston on Aug 9, 2021 13:33:55 GMT -5
Lee’s reality is that Satan was already farming the soil he would be born into. My sympathies. |
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Post by Lee on Aug 9, 2021 13:34:09 GMT -5
Bob and the Williston’s believe this is the persecution complex inherent in the Christians. Bob and the Williston’s are very naive.
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Post by Lee on Aug 9, 2021 13:35:19 GMT -5
If in 1 million people vaccinated people have 1000 have serious side effects or death, and if a control of a 1 million people have exactly 1000 serious side effects or death, is the vaccination campaign rational and benevolent? I say no! 1000 to 1000000 is 1 to 1000. At ground level, you can not do good “science”. The communists know this and are using this to their advantage to advance their control in the court of their media controlled, public opinion. Not to mention, their phalanx of government, butt f*u*c*k*ing friendly, corporations. This is the question you asked “Let’s do math and ethics for a minute. If a vaccine can save a thousand while killing a thousand people, does it matter whether or not we administer the vaccine.” Lee I suspect indoctrination is involved when what a person says makes sense only to the people in their group. I find this often in your posts. I don’t have a clue what you’re talking about and I’m not generally considered to be of low intelligence. Please do me a favour if you would be so kind and remember that you are not necessarily speaking to people who believe as you do. Belief is involved in every persuasion. I recommend mine. |
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Post by BobWilliston on Aug 9, 2021 13:39:44 GMT -5
Bob and the Williston’s believe this is the persecution complex inherent in the Christians. Bob and the Williston’s are very naive. How many Willistons have you ever met? |
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Post by verna on Aug 9, 2021 14:16:43 GMT -5
This is the question you asked “Let’s do math and ethics for a minute. If a vaccine can save a thousand while killing a thousand people, does it matter whether or not we administer the vaccine.” Lee I suspect indoctrination is involved when what a person says makes sense only to the people in their group. I find this often in your posts. I don’t have a clue what you’re talking about and I’m not generally considered to be of low intelligence. Please do me a favour if you would be so kind and remember that you are not necessarily speaking to people who believe as you do.
Verna, I think that Lee's problem might be due to his original fear of a communist lurking under his bed and now with this the terrible virus happening the number of those phantom communists under his bed has reached a critical level and they keeping him awake to where is having difficulty thinking straight.You might be right. There sure as heck is something askew. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2021 14:20:03 GMT -5
DAN! Did YOU not celebrate YOUR birthday during of the Covid-19 virus?
YOU wouldn't even close down YOUR business, which was considered a "non-essential" and was supposed to shut down!
Just what is so terrible about an ex-president celebrating their birthday?
Since Obama is no longer President, -it was not as if Obama was neglecting his duties.
Obama birthday celebration also happened at time when there was a lull in the number of cases of the virus and people were getting vaccinated and restrictions all over the country were being relaxed.
Please try to tell me what is the big deal about Obama celebrating his birthday that is causing you and wally to be so nasty about it?
spin meister you are... |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2021 14:21:38 GMT -5
DAN! Did YOU not celebrate YOUR birthday during of the Covid-19 virus?
YOU wouldn't even close down YOUR business, which was considered a "non-essential" and was supposed to shut down!
Just what is so terrible about an ex-president celebrating their birthday?
Since Obama is no longer President, -it was not as if Obama was neglecting his duties.
Obama birthday celebration also happened at time when there was a lull in the number of cases of the virus and people were getting vaccinated and restrictions all over the country were being relaxed.
Please try to tell me what is the big deal about Obama celebrating his birthday that is causing you and wally to be so nasty about it?
Like either one of the cares a hoot. *them |
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Post by fixit on Aug 9, 2021 14:53:36 GMT -5
4.32 billion doses have been administered globally, and 42.15 million are now administered each day. How many doses would need to be administered before you would stop calling it "experimental"? Your echo chamber is doing you no good Lee. What you are saying is that after your repeating here 4.32 billion times, that the virus was not invented in a lab, that the pretense of the virility of the virus was not a mechanism for centralizing, Marxist fashion, control in this world, that the population is not being forced to choose between their jobs and experimental “medicine”, that the “vaccines” are effective though you still have to wear a mask, that the vaccines are only effective if everyone “vaccines”, that personal liberty and dignity aren’t under attack, all this is proved because you have repeated yourself 4.32 billion times on tmb? You’re as logical as Satan. What you have in common are big tummies. Your attitude is arguably Satanic. Christ-like people care for their fellow man. Your claims: 1. The virus was invented in a lab.Probably not, but even if it was that shouldn't change how we fight it. 2. The pretense of the virility of the virus was a mechanism for centralizing, Marxist fashion, control in this world.If the Chinese invaded the US homeland you would probably condemn Biden for fighting them. Many people like you have come to their senses while gasping their last. 35.8 million Covid sufferers in the US and 617,000 deaths seems significant to me. 3. The population is being forced to choose between their jobs and experimental “medicine”.There's not much proven "medicine" available to treat Covid-19. Vaccination is the best science can offer. 4. The “vaccines” are effective though you still have to wear a mask.Vaccination is very effective at reducing severe illness and death, but people can still transmit the virus to others. Wearing a mask is to protect those around you. Refusing to wear a mask is Satanic, and wearing a mask to protect your fellow man is the Christ-like thing to do. 5. The vaccines are only effective if everyone “vaccines”.Vaccination is the Christ-like thing to do for your fellow man. Another viral scourge - Smallpox - was eradicated with vaccination. It would be Satanic to wish we hadn't eradicated that with vaccines. 6. Personal liberty and dignity are under attack.Yes, if you end up in ICU gasping for breath and pleading for a too-late-now vaccine there's not much personal liberty or dignity in that. Especially if so many idiots end up in hospital at the same time and there's not enough ventilators or unfatigued staff to care for you. |
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Post by fixit on Aug 9, 2021 15:05:02 GMT -5
Just to remind vaccine sceptics: smallpox was eradicated with vaccines and it would be Satanic to wish this on anyone.  A child with smallpox in Bangladesh in 1973. The bumps filled with thick fluid and a depression or dimple in the center are characteristic. |
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Post by dmmichgood on Aug 9, 2021 16:55:46 GMT -5
DAN! Did YOU not celebrate YOUR birthday during of the Covid-19 virus?
YOU wouldn't even close down YOUR business, which was considered a "non-essential" and was supposed to shut down!
Just what is so terrible about an ex-president celebrating their birthday?
Since Obama is no longer President, -it was not as if Obama was neglecting his duties.
Obama birthday celebration also happened at time when there was a lull in the number of cases of the virus and people were getting vaccinated and restrictions all over the country were being relaxed.
Please try to tell me what is the big deal about Obama celebrating his birthday that is causing you and wally to be so nasty about it?
spin meister you are...
You make me blush. 
You are the "master" at spinning fables out straw.
I could never, ever come even close to reaching your own degree of the mastery of spinning!  |
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Post by Pragmatic on Aug 9, 2021 21:49:40 GMT -5
For those who think Covid is purely the domain of people with underlying health conditions, or the elderly: |
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Post by Dan on Aug 9, 2021 22:43:16 GMT -5
DAN! Did YOU not celebrate YOUR birthday during of the Covid-19 virus?
YOU wouldn't even close down YOUR business, which was considered a "non-essential" and was supposed to shut down!
Just what is so terrible about an ex-president celebrating their birthday?
Since Obama is no longer President, -it was not as if Obama was neglecting his duties.
Obama birthday celebration also happened at time when there was a lull in the number of cases of the virus and people were getting vaccinated and restrictions all over the country were being relaxed.
Please try to tell me what is the big deal about Obama celebrating his birthday that is causing you and wally to be so nasty about it?
I never bought into all the restrictions, so the virus didn't change how I lived..
Dr Fauci and the CDC's most recent guidelines forbid large gatherings, and even require face mask for the vaccinated. Obama endorses these restrictions, so its a tad hypocritical for him to have a party with hundreds of unmasked people.
I could care less that Obama broke the rules and danced the night away, but its a bit two-faced to allegedly support banning large unmasked gatherings for everyone but himself.
Its a case of; "Mask for thee but not for me".
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Post by fixit on Aug 10, 2021 14:30:59 GMT -5
DAN! Did YOU not celebrate YOUR birthday during of the Covid-19 virus?
YOU wouldn't even close down YOUR business, which was considered a "non-essential" and was supposed to shut down!
Just what is so terrible about an ex-president celebrating their birthday?
Since Obama is no longer President, -it was not as if Obama was neglecting his duties.
Obama birthday celebration also happened at time when there was a lull in the number of cases of the virus and people were getting vaccinated and restrictions all over the country were being relaxed.
Please try to tell me what is the big deal about Obama celebrating his birthday that is causing you and wally to be so nasty about it?
I never bought into all the restrictions, so the virus didn't change how I lived.. Dr Fauci and the CDC's most recent guidelines forbid large gatherings, and even require face mask for the vaccinated. Obama endorses these restrictions, so its a tad hypocritical for him to have a party with hundreds of unmasked people.
I could care less that Obama broke the rules and danced the night away, but its a bit two-faced to allegedly support banning large unmasked gatherings for everyone but himself.
Its a case of; "Mask for thee but not for me".
What you haven't figured out yet is that Covid-19 doesn't care whether it kills Republicans or Democrats. It never should have been made a political issue. The political divide is worsening.   |
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