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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Apr 24, 2021 14:53:12 GMT -5
I have just attended the dawn ceremony in our tiny town remembering the victims of war. ANZAC Day originated in Gallipoli where Australians and New Zealanders fought alongside each other in an attempt to take control of the Turkish straits to enable bombardment of Constantinople. ANZAC Day is a national day of commeration in both NZ and Australia. The campaign failed and the ANZACs and British troops evacuated the Gallipoli Peninsular on the 9th January 1916. Here is a link to some of the services. I was going to post some links to some more personal stories I read yesterday but cannot now find them. www.stuff.co.nz/national/300285367/anzac-day-live-aotearoa-remembers-those-who-served-and-died-in-warfare
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Apr 24, 2021 15:01:34 GMT -5
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Post by Grant on Apr 24, 2021 15:31:51 GMT -5
I have been to Gallipoli, seen Anzac Cove and and the graves of those who died including the tomb of the unknown solider.
Guess the Gallipoli ANZAC gathering may not take place there today due to COVId.
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Apr 24, 2021 15:46:12 GMT -5
I have been to Gallipoli, seen Anzac Cove and and tgraves of those who died including the tomb of the unknown solider. Guess the Gallipoli ANZAC gathering may not take place there today due to COVId. Pleased to hear you have been there. It sounded like a place with a harsh climate and harsh topography. You may be right about there being no service at ANZAC Cove this year. Last year there was no service in NZ due to lockdown but we stood at our gates or doorsteps in rememberance. Are there services in Australia this year?
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Post by dmmichgood on Apr 24, 2021 23:13:17 GMT -5
I have a confession to make. When you talk about your history, I am appalled at my lack of knowledge about your history!
I fear that we as Americans are so oblivious to other countries history because we are so self-centered about ourselves.
My husband had a history of Australia, The Fatal Shore. I think I should try to read some of it.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2021 23:51:00 GMT -5
I have a confession to make. When you talk about your history, I am appalled at my lack of knowledge about your history!
I fear that we as Americans are so oblivious to other countries history because we are so self-centered about ourselves.
My husband had a history of Australia, The Fatal Shore. I think I should try to read some of it. everyone after college or as part of college or after high school should spend a solid year living in another country other than their own. it would build some good character instead of letting them be a character and understanding of how the world spins...
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Post by dmmichgood on Apr 25, 2021 0:50:31 GMT -5
I have a confession to make. When you talk about your history, I am appalled at my lack of knowledge about your history!
I fear that we as Americans are so oblivious to other countries history because we are so self-centered about ourselves.
My husband had a history of Australia, The Fatal Shore. I think I should try to read some of it. everyone after college or as part of college or after high school should spend a solid year living in another country other than their own. it would build some good character instead of letting them be a character and understanding of how the world spins... OH -my god! -shocking! Will wonders never cease? Wally, -I am actually agreeing with you for once!
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Apr 25, 2021 1:13:21 GMT -5
I have a confession to make. When you talk about your history, I am appalled at my lack of knowledge about your history!
I fear that we as Americans are so oblivious to other countries history because we are so self-centered about ourselves.
My husband had a history of Australia, The Fatal Shore. I think I should try to read some of it. everyone after college or as part of college or after high school should spend a solid year living in another country other than their own. it would build some good character instead of letting them be a character and understanding of how the world spins... Quite right.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2021 4:43:52 GMT -5
Like Curly we attended Anzac Day services. Always moving and a great sharing of the things that we should never forget. The Dawn Service was at 5.45 am and timed so as the "Last Post" was played at sunrise. A good crowd who joined in the singing of the hymns "Nearer my God to Thee" and " God of our Fathers, Known of Old" (The Recessional}.
Much larger crowd at 11am service. Again all joined in with the singing of "Rock of Ages" and "Abide with Me" Service concluded with both the National Anthems of New Zealand and Australia. Then a very hearty singing of " Waltzing Matilda".
I always shed a tear for George Johnson, a humble professing man. George known to us kids as Uncle George lived with us in 1945. He fought at Gallipoli, Pine Ridge and The Western Front. He survived the War and little did we realise the Hell he went through.
LEST WE FORGET.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2021 15:09:32 GMT -5
The Ode.
They shall grow not old, as we that are left grow old; Age shall not weary them, nor the years condemn. At the going down of the sun and in the morning We will remember them.
This is always a part of of Anzac Day services. Also in RSL Clubs, at sundown each day, activity stops, whilst the Ode is played over the PA system.
Always a stirring moment.
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Apr 25, 2021 16:05:04 GMT -5
I only knew one Gallipoli Veteran, Frank Fougere who farmed near or was a neighbour of Walter Franks. After Walter went in the work they stayed in touch and many years later Frank professed. By that time he was a widow and he married a woman called Elsie Preston. That must have been about 1960. Some of the kiwis on here will recognise those names.
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Post by CherieKropp on Apr 28, 2021 9:19:57 GMT -5
The following is from the book I'm writing:
A Holiday Investigation. After Doug Parker he sold his business and before he was slated to enter the Work, Doug decided to take his parents and uncle on a holiday to the UK at his expense. They had not seen their British relatives since World War I, when his father had fought in the Battle of Gallipoli (his tombstone shows a rank of Corporal). His uncle had been a stretcher bearer in the Battle of Somme. Both had longed to revisit several sites of WWI battles, and Doug wanted to make their dreams come true.
When Doug informed John Hardie of his plans to visit Britain, Hardie declared adamantly, "You cannot go to Ireland. I don't mind if your mother and father go, but you can't go. Once you put your hand to the plow, you can never turn back. And you cannot go to Ireland." Further, he told Doug if he disobeyed, he would seriously reconsider accepting him into the Work.
Hardie also pressured Doug's parents to keep him from making this trip. He reprimanded Doug's father, "You know our idea about the Trust, and you had no right to think of such a trip without first consulting me. If Doug goes, I'll have to take the Meetings out of your home." His mother was beside herself with stress from this threat and nearly had a nervous breakdown.
Eventually fed up with the Workers' harassment, Doug's father told John Hardie and Gordon McNab that he no longer wanted the Meeting in his home; did not want to see them at his house again; that there was no compassion in them, and they were not true followers of Christ. The Workers told the Friends the reason Doug did not enter the Work was because he was not willing to sacrifice his money.
Nevertheless, the Parkers left on their journey to the UK. They were surprised when professing UK Friends refused to see them (following worker's instructions). The rumor was spread that "the serpent has taken charge of Doug and he is a very dangerous man."
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