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Post by Lee on Apr 13, 2021 6:05:42 GMT -5
My dad forwarded the video below and so inspired this thought. Jesus said the demons are imprisoned in dense chains of darkness. Does this fit a mafioso, who embraces darkness? In contrast, perhaps a demon is someone who thinks they operate in the light but their conduct and their influence on the world is dark. While the mafia is a dark preoccupation, it pales somewhat to a totally deranged person whose estrangement from the truth is, for now at least, implacable. youtu.be/EwcAhka12w0A nice song to go with it youtu.be/JhBw80Y54gg
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Post by Lee on Apr 14, 2021 20:28:56 GMT -5
Myself?
I used to have thoughts I’m no longer susceptible to.
I don’t believe demons are disembodied spirits. They have bodies, and I suspect they’re rather similar to ours.
We are spiritual beings, our minds exist in a “sea” of spirit, and that’s why we have inherited an idea from the Bible but more typically from Bible exegeses, that demons are disembodied spirits.
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Post by nathan on Apr 14, 2021 23:32:00 GMT -5
My dad forwarded the video below and so inspired this thought. Jesus said the demons are imprisoned in dense chains of darkness. Does this fit a mafioso, who embraces darkness? In contrast, perhaps a demon is someone who thinks they operate in the light but their conduct and their influence on the world is dark. While the mafia is a dark preoccupation, it pales somewhat to a totally deranged person whose estrangement from the truth is, for now at least, implacable. youtu.be/EwcAhka12w0A nice song to go with it youtu.be/JhBw80Y54gg\Dont play down the power of the darkness We are in a spiritual war Called a revolution. People are not demons demons are disembodied spirits A person who has a demon can act like one and do devilish things e: anger, lust, perversion, jealousy, envy, strife Christians can have demons Before you answer think about pedophile workers the Mafia is an organization Have you ever been exposed to seeing a person receive deliverance? I know what you are talking about Shushy and Lee.
From what I have read and studied and experience myself in demons possession.... According to the early apostolic church fathers teachings. Demons are souls of the Nephilim/giants died AFTER the flood who roam the earth to preys on the humans. Nephim are half fallen angels and half humans.
Like the 2000 demons souls depart from Legion/man whom Jesus cast out of and they went into the pigs and they jumped into the river and the pigs died but NOT the demons, they just find new humans bodies to live inside of them and control their minds and wicked behaviors... Like the demons did with Legion/man and many of people whom Jesus and His apostles cast them out 2000 years ago. These demons are still roam the earth today! and they still possess and control people weird, wild and Crazy behaviors. ~~ Apostolic fathers teachings about Nephilim/Giants/Demons: (Genesis 6:4)
There were Giants on the earth in those days, and also AFTERWARD, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of men and they bore Children to them. Those were mighty men who were of old, men of renown. ~~ Justin Martyr (160 A.D.) The angels transgressed this appointment and were captive by love of women and they begat Children/Giants, who are called DEMONS.~~ Athenagoras (170 A.D.) These angels, then, who have fallen from heaven, and haunt the air and the earth, and are no longer able to rise to heavenly things, and the souls of the Giants, who are the DEMONS, who wander about the world. Furthermore, certain angels who fell of their own free will, there sprang a more wicked demon brood, condemned of God along with the authors of their race. Their great business is the ruin of mankind. So, from the start, spiritual wickedness sought our destruction. Accordingly, they inflict upon our bodies diseases and other grievous calamities. ~~ Commodianus (248 A.D.) From the seed of the fallen angels and women, Giants are said to have been born. By them, arts were made known in the earth. They taught the dyeing of wool and everything that is done. When they DIED, men erected images to them. Yet, because they were of an evil seed, the Almighty did NOT approve of their being brought back from death when they had died. For that reason, they wander and they now subvert many bodies. And it is these whom the pagans presently worship and pray to as gods. ~~ Lactanius (303-313) The Giants who were born from the relations of angels with women were neither angels nor men, but had a MIXED nature---- were NOT admitted into hades when they died. Similarly, their fallen angels fathers had NOT been admitted into heaven, either. Thus there came to be TWO kinds of demons: One of heaven, the other of the earth. The latter are the wicked spirits, who are the authors of all the EVILS that are done. These wicked spirits were the inventors of astrology, soothsaying, divination, those production that are called oracles, the art of magic. ~~ Origen (225 A.D.) Now, of the wicked spirits, there is a two fold mode of operation. Sometimes they take complete and entire possession of the mind, so as NOT to allow their captives the power of either understanding or feeling. For example, this is the case with those who are commonly called "Possessed" whom we see to be deprived of reason. At other times, these evil forces use their wicked suggestions to deprave a conscious and intelligent souls with thoughts of various kinds---- Persuading it to do evil. Judas Iscariot is an illustration of this.
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Post by Lee on Apr 16, 2021 23:28:52 GMT -5
Demons are a creation of God. Unlike God, I don’t believe demons can roam around without a body. Spirit can. It’s good to be reminded we’re all spiritual, even if we’re uninformed or in denial of the fact.
When the devil assailed Job he had to ask for permission. This is the nature of spiritual rebellion. In the rebellious person’s desire to defy God, he doesn’t sin in his weakness but his perceived strength. He perceives his sin as a challenge to God’s righteousness and authority. Rebellious people are political people and God willing, they will grow their cause.
It is the nature of God that he creates both light and darkness. There is no darkness in him but for now, while we’re being refined and tested, if anyone wants to sign up for evil he’ll bless it. This, so that we can be tested, and by the same instrument, the demonic will become manifest.
Strange world indeed! Most peculiar mama. Roll!
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Post by shushy on Apr 19, 2021 13:09:48 GMT -5
Demons are a creation of God. Unlike God, I don’t believe demons can roam around without a body. Spirit can. It’s good to be reminded we’re all spiritual, even if we’re uninformed or in denial of the fact. When the devil assailed Job he had to ask for permission. This is the nature of spiritual rebellion. In the rebellious person’s desire to defy God, he doesn’t sin in his weakness but his perceived strength. He perceives his sin as a challenge to God’s righteousness and authority. Rebellious people are political people and God willing, they will grow their cause. It is the nature of God that he creates both light and darkness. There is no darkness in him but for now, while we’re being refined and tested, if anyone wants to sign up for evil he’ll bless it. This, so that we can be tested, and by the same instrument, the demonic will become manifest. Strange world indeed! Most peculiar mama. Roll! Without the conviction of the holy spirit a person cannot have deliverance of an evil spirit Most people do not know they are spiritual I remember yrs ago on here making a statement that we have 3 bodies, physical, soul[mind will an emotions] spiritual body It caused a ruckus in the stalls
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2021 13:27:51 GMT -5
Demons are a creation of God. Unlike God, I don’t believe demons can roam around without a body. Spirit can. It’s good to be reminded we’re all spiritual, even if we’re uninformed or in denial of the fact. When the devil assailed Job he had to ask for permission. This is the nature of spiritual rebellion. In the rebellious person’s desire to defy God, he doesn’t sin in his weakness but his perceived strength. He perceives his sin as a challenge to God’s righteousness and authority. Rebellious people are political people and God willing, they will grow their cause. It is the nature of God that he creates both light and darkness. There is no darkness in him but for now, while we’re being refined and tested, if anyone wants to sign up for evil he’ll bless it. This, so that we can be tested, and by the same instrument, the demonic will become manifest. Strange world indeed! Most peculiar mama. Roll! Without the conviction of the holy spirit a person cannot have deliverance of an evil spirit Most people do not know they are spiritual I remember yrs ago on here making a statement that we have 3 bodies, physical, soul[mind will an emotions] spiritual body It caused a ruckus in the stalls i can't tell much a difference between soul and spirit...
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Post by shushy on Apr 20, 2021 7:32:42 GMT -5
Without the conviction of the holy spirit a person cannot have deliverance of an evil spirit Most people do not know they are spiritual I remember yrs ago on here making a statement that we have 3 bodies, physical, soul[mind will an emotions] spiritual body It caused a ruckus in the stalls i can't tell much a difference between soul and spirit... soul[mind. will emotions] The spirit/ soul /heart are all connected
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Post by shushy on Apr 20, 2021 7:40:53 GMT -5
i can't tell much a difference between soul and spirit... soul[mind. will emotions] The spirit/ soul /heart are all connected HS enters our heart when we are born again .He resides with us teaches leads and guides us Our spirit man is a baby and begins to grow through prayer, praise worship, reading the word, fasting & communing with God. As we are taught the word, faith cometh by hearing and hearing by the word, we grow like a baby to childhood then we are fed the meat of the word it becomes a part of us and we are able to quote it Overcoming our flesh man and building our spirit man we grow from glory to glory Overcomong is when angry choosing to put off the anger, acknowledge repent and ask forgiveness and putting on empathy,
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