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Post by Roselyn T on Feb 13, 2021 1:47:12 GMT -5
you need to update your comebacks. they are not all that good since you just seem to parrot back what was already said....good try though RT, stays in the dark then she comes out to jabs, and stabs at us, Wally... then go back in her black hole, wait and wait then Pokes, here and there again. 😅😅 Well there is only so much BS we can put up with from you before we react nathan !! All the self promotion, self righteousness and bragging you do about yourself !!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2021 1:50:47 GMT -5
which hole is that? as a believer it couldn't even come close to the hole that you and chuck have dug for yourselves....good try though OMG...talk about a broken record ! Try harder next time @wally ! ummmm i don't think i've said that before. you are being nonsensical. nice dodge of the question though...
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2021 1:52:31 GMT -5
you need to update your comebacks. they are not all that good since you just seem to parrot back what was already said....good try though RT, stays in the dark then she comes out to jabs, and stabs at us, Wally... then go back in her black hole, wait and wait then Pokes, here and there again. yes i think she's attempting a "death by a thousand cuts" method AKA Queen of the broken record but can't comprehend that it is not working....
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Post by Roselyn T on Feb 13, 2021 1:54:49 GMT -5
OMG...talk about a broken record ! Try harder next time @wally ! ummmm i don't think i've said that before. you are being nonsensical. nice dodge of the question though... Like your dodge of why you didn't marry and adopt if you are so concerned about abortion, @wally ! Maybe you should ask God why he allows spontaneous abortion while you are at it !!
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Post by Roselyn T on Feb 13, 2021 1:57:32 GMT -5
RT, stays in the dark then she comes out to jabs, and stabs at us, Wally... then go back in her black hole, wait and wait then Pokes, here and there again. yes i think she's attempting a "death by a thousand cuts" method AKA Queen of the broken record but can't comprehend that it is not working.... 😂😂
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2021 2:07:56 GMT -5
ummmm i don't think i've said that before. you are being nonsensical. nice dodge of the question though... Like your dodge of why you didn't marry and adopt if you are so concerned about abortion, @wally ! Maybe you should ask God why he allows spontaneous abortion while you are at it !! you got to work inside God's plans not your own...can't get any more plain or direct than that...good try though
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Post by nathan on Feb 13, 2021 2:28:45 GMT -5
RT, stays in the dark then she comes out to jabs, and stabs at us, Wally... then go back in her black hole, wait and wait then Pokes, here and there again. yes i think she's attempting a "death by a thousand cuts" method AKA Queen of the broken record but can't comprehend that it is not working.... hahaha... You are very good at given them names, Wally... RT, doesn't like when we give her a taste of her own broken records medicine.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2021 2:33:59 GMT -5
Wally and Nathan you are bringing TMB into disrepute. Could you please desist and behave as a 2x2 should, what you profess to be. We are not amused.
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Post by nathan on Feb 13, 2021 3:08:41 GMT -5
Wally and Nathan you are bringing TMB into disrepute. Could you please desist and behave as a 2x2 should, what you profess to be. We are not amused. How about you practice what you preach on TMB? Nice post one day and next day like Dr. Henry Jekyll, nicknamed in some copies of the story, Harry Jekyll, and his alternative personality, Mr. Edward Hyde, is the central character of Robert Louis Stevenson's 1886 novella Strange Case of Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde.
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Post by Roselyn T on Feb 13, 2021 3:14:12 GMT -5
Like your dodge of why you didn't marry and adopt if you are so concerned about abortion, @wally ! Maybe you should ask God why he allows spontaneous abortion while you are at it !! you got to work inside God's plans not your own...can't get any more plain or direct than that...good try though So did God tell you not to get married @wally ?
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Post by Roselyn T on Feb 13, 2021 3:14:50 GMT -5
yes i think she's attempting a "death by a thousand cuts" method AKA Queen of the broken record but can't comprehend that it is not working.... hahaha... You are very good at given them names, Wally... RT, doesn't like when we give her a taste of her own broken records medicine.😅😅 Really nathan !!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2021 13:13:09 GMT -5
you got to work inside God's plans not your own...can't get any more plain or direct than that...good try though So did God tell you not to get married @wally ? yes looking back he always wanted me for the work but i resisted until about 2002? then i offered and of course we all know rejected. one worker FS when i asked about it later said sometimes if you don't do it on Gods time it just doesn't get done...his new plan is for me to show that one can be single and still profess in the kingdom, to be a good example of a prodigal son and to do a good job of taking care of mother. it has gone very well...
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Post by nathan on Feb 13, 2021 14:02:18 GMT -5
So did God tell you not to get married @wally ? yes looking back he always wanted me for the work but i resisted until about 2002? then i offered and of course we all know rejected. one worker FS when i asked about it later said sometimes if you don't do it on Gods time it just doesn't get done...his new plan is for me to show that one can be single and still profess in the kingdom, to be a good example of a prodigal son and to do a good job of taking care of mother. it has gone very well... God KNOWS the future, sometimes His NEW plan is better for us, more new adventures for us to experience... the first one was good to learn from but the NEW plan is very awesome to the fullest, God wants to show what He can do MORE for us. I enjoy and love my New Calling to the fullest.
If you and I were in the work, we wouldn't be able to post on TMB, it takes too much of our time and energy.
Jesus said in John 10:10 The thief/Satan comes only to steal and kill and destroy; I have come that they may have life, and have it to the full.I am VERY glad to have you on TMB as a fellow 2x2 Internet worker! It has NOT been accident that you are sent here. A fact must be established by the testimony of two or three witnesses. The testimony of one person alone is not to suffice to convict anyone of any iniquity, sin, or guilt. But the matter will stand on the testimony of two or three witnesses. A single witness may not testify against another person for any trespass or sin that he commits. That was one of the reason Jesus sent out His apostles Two and Two as Living Witnesses in Luke 10 and Matthew 10 and the workers are going in pairs!
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Post by chuck on Feb 14, 2021 16:16:50 GMT -5
Ill leave it alone when you stop using unscriptual things as filling for your argument. FWIW I think it was unlikely he had a wife, but that was never the point or issue. And if he did it still wouldn't make any difference and I still wouldn't think any different about Christ. You and wally on the other hand........it would ruin your life literally if Christ and Mary Magdalene did anything outside YOUR standards.......that my friend is religion. Jesus was NOT married for a good reason as an Itinerant preacher of the gospel to be an example to His men and woman apostles, to follow His example for the sake of the kingdom of God! for the next 2000 years. Here you come along and said he had casual relationship with Mary Magdalene that is blasphemy!
Chuck, you just like to argue with your nonsense!
Were does he say he was not married or didn't have a relationship with Mary Magdalene?. I didn't say he had or didn't have, that was you!. And you said it to support your religion.
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Post by nathan on Feb 14, 2021 17:45:54 GMT -5
Jesus was NOT married for a good reason as an Itinerant preacher of the gospel to be an example to His men and woman apostles, to follow His example for the sake of the kingdom of God! for the next 2000 years. Here you come along and said he had casual relationship with Mary Magdalene that is blasphemy!
Chuck, you just like to argue with your nonsense!
Were does he say he was not married or didn't have a relationship with Mary Magdalene?. I didn't say he had or didn't have, that was you!. And you said it to support your religion. Whatever, you said atheist 2x2. Here is early church fathers teaching on Jesus Celibacy: A dictionary of early Christians beliefs by David W. Bercot ~~ (Methodius A.D. 290) Let us inquire as to the reason that none of the patriarchs, prophets, and righteous men, either praised or chose the state of virginity. The reason that is was reserved for the Lord alone to be the first to teach this doctrine. It was fitting that Jesus who was the first and chief of priests, prophets, and angels should also be hailed as the FIRST and chief of VIRGINS. For in the old times, man was not yet perfect. And for this reason, he was unable to receive perfection which is VIRGINITY.
~~ (Pierius A.D. 275) " I wish that all men were even as I am." Pierius, when he was expounding and unfolding the meaning of the apostle Paul and purposed to explain these words, added this remark: " In saying this, Paul clearly preaches Celibacy." concerning virginity, we received no commandments. Rather, we have leave it to the power of those who are willing to maintain it as a VOW. It is clear to all, without any doubt, that to care for the things of the Lord and to please God is much better than to please one's wife.(Methoditus A.D. 290) In the Song of songs, to any who is willing to see it, Christ Himself praises those who are firmly established in Virginity, saying, "As the lily among thorns, so is my love among the daughters."
Virginity is something supernaturally great, wonderful, and glorious. To speak plainly and in accordance with the Holy Scriptures, this best and noble manner of life is alone the root of immorality-- as well as its flower and first fruits. And for this reason, the Lord promises that those who have made themselves ENUNUCHS shall enter the kingdoms of heaven. Celibacy among humans is a very rare thing and difficult to attain. It is NOT enough to merely keep the body undefiled but we must care for the souls of men as being the divinities of their bodies. For all of the irrational appetites of a virgin are banished from the body by divine teaching.
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Post by chuck on Feb 15, 2021 8:19:03 GMT -5
Were does he say he was not married or didn't have a relationship with Mary Magdalene?. I didn't say he had or didn't have, that was you!. And you said it to support your religion. Whatever, you said atheist 2x2. Here is early church fathers teaching on Jesus Celibacy: A dictionary of early Christians beliefs by David W. Bercot ~~ (Methodius A.D. 290) Let us inquire as to the reason that none of the patriarchs, prophets, and righteous men, either praised or chose the state of virginity. The reason that is was reserved for the Lord alone to be the first to teach this doctrine. It was fitting that Jesus who was the first and chief of priests, prophets, and angels should also be hailed as the FIRST and chief of VIRGINS. For in the old times, man was not yet perfect. And for this reason, he was unable to receive perfection which is VIRGINITY.
~~ (Pierius A.D. 275) " I wish that all men were even as I am." Pierius, when he was expounding and unfolding the meaning of the apostle Paul and purposed to explain these words, added this remark: " In saying this, Paul clearly preaches Celibacy." concerning virginity, we received no commandments. Rather, we have leave it to the power of those who are willing to maintain it as a VOW. It is clear to all, without any doubt, that to care for the things of the Lord and to please God is much better than to please one's wife.(Methoditus A.D. 290) In the Song of songs, to any who is willing to see it, Christ Himself praises those who are firmly established in Virginity, saying, "As the lily among thorns, so is my love among the daughters."
Virginity is something supernaturally great, wonderful, and glorious. To speak plainly and in accordance with the Holy Scriptures, this best and noble manner of life is alone the root of immorality-- as well as its flower and first fruits. And for this reason, the Lord promises that those who have made themselves ENUNUCHS shall enter the kingdoms of heaven. Celibacy among humans is a very rare thing and difficult to attain. It is NOT enough to merely keep the body undefiled but we must care for the souls of men as being the divinities of their bodies. For all of the irrational appetites of a virgin are banished from the body by divine teaching. Your supporting your religion again Nathan. And your happy to use non 2x2ism when it's convenient.
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Post by chuck on Feb 15, 2021 9:24:13 GMT -5
yes looking back he always wanted me for the work but i resisted until about 2002? then i offered and of course we all know rejected. one worker FS when i asked about it later said sometimes if you don't do it on Gods time it just doesn't get done...his new plan is for me to show that one can be single and still profess in the kingdom, to be a good example of a prodigal son and to do a good job of taking care of mother. it has gone very well... God KNOWS the future, sometimes His NEW plan is better for us, more new adventures for us to experience... the first one was good to learn from but the NEW plan is very awesome to the fullest, God wants to show what He can do MORE for us. I enjoy and love my New Calling to the fullest.
If you and I were in the work, we wouldn't be able to post on TMB, it takes too much of our time and energy.
Jesus said in John 10:10 The thief/Satan comes only to steal and kill and destroy; I have come that they may have life, and have it to the full.I am VERY glad to have you on TMB as a fellow 2x2 Internet worker! It has NOT been accident that you are sent here. A fact must be established by the testimony of two or three witnesses. The testimony of one person alone is not to suffice to convict anyone of any iniquity, sin, or guilt. But the matter will stand on the testimony of two or three witnesses. A single witness may not testify against another person for any trespass or sin that he commits. That was one of the reason Jesus sent out His apostles Two and Two as Living Witnesses in Luke 10 and Matthew 10 and the workers are going in pairs!
He only sent them in pairs within Israel. That's it. From then on there is nothing in concrete about having to go in pairs. Plenty of cases of this. Also cases of having to work for a living even though tradition said they didn't have to. The Apostles are quite often arranged in groups of 4 in scripture. Perhaps Irvine should have called his new group "The Quads" Long story short going in pairs today is unfounded and unscriptual. Doesn't mean you can't do it though.
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Post by nathan on Feb 15, 2021 10:43:02 GMT -5
Whatever, you said atheist 2x2. Here is early church fathers teaching on Jesus Celibacy: A dictionary of early Christians beliefs by David W. Bercot ~~ (Methodius A.D. 290) Let us inquire as to the reason that none of the patriarchs, prophets, and righteous men, either praised or chose the state of virginity. The reason that is was reserved for the Lord alone to be the first to teach this doctrine. It was fitting that Jesus who was the first and chief of priests, prophets, and angels should also be hailed as the FIRST and chief of VIRGINS. For in the old times, man was not yet perfect. And for this reason, he was unable to receive perfection which is VIRGINITY.
~~ (Pierius A.D. 275) " I wish that all men were even as I am." Pierius, when he was expounding and unfolding the meaning of the apostle Paul and purposed to explain these words, added this remark: " In saying this, Paul clearly preaches Celibacy." concerning virginity, we received no commandments. Rather, we have leave it to the power of those who are willing to maintain it as a VOW. It is clear to all, without any doubt, that to care for the things of the Lord and to please God is much better than to please one's wife.(Methoditus A.D. 290) In the Song of songs, to any who is willing to see it, Christ Himself praises those who are firmly established in Virginity, saying, "As the lily among thorns, so is my love among the daughters."
Virginity is something supernaturally great, wonderful, and glorious. To speak plainly and in accordance with the Holy Scriptures, this best and noble manner of life is alone the root of immorality-- as well as its flower and first fruits. And for this reason, the Lord promises that those who have made themselves ENUNUCHS shall enter the kingdoms of heaven. Celibacy among humans is a very rare thing and difficult to attain. It is NOT enough to merely keep the body undefiled but we must care for the souls of men as being the divinities of their bodies. For all of the irrational appetites of a virgin are banished from the body by divine teaching. Your supporting your religion again Nathan. And your happy to use non 2x2ism when it's convenient. So, you/2x2 don't agree with Jesus, Paul, and many of the apostles, and the 2x2 workers teaching and practice on Celibacy for the friends also?
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Post by nathan on Feb 15, 2021 10:56:39 GMT -5
God KNOWS the future, sometimes His NEW plan is better for us, more new adventures for us to experience... the first one was good to learn from but the NEW plan is very awesome to the fullest, God wants to show what He can do MORE for us. I enjoy and love my New Calling to the fullest.
If you and I were in the work, we wouldn't be able to post on TMB, it takes too much of our time and energy.
Jesus said in John 10:10 The thief/Satan comes only to steal and kill and destroy; I have come that they may have life, and have it to the full.I am VERY glad to have you on TMB as a fellow 2x2 Internet worker! It has NOT been accident that you are sent here. A fact must be established by the testimony of two or three witnesses. The testimony of one person alone is not to suffice to convict anyone of any iniquity, sin, or guilt. But the matter will stand on the testimony of two or three witnesses. A single witness may not testify against another person for any trespass or sin that he commits. That was one of the reason Jesus sent out His apostles Two and Two as Living Witnesses in Luke 10 and Matthew 10 and the workers are going in pairs!
He only sent them in pairs within Israel. That's it. From then on there is nothing in concrete about having to go in pairs. Plenty of cases of this. Also cases of having to work for a living even though tradition said they didn't have to. The Apostles are quite often arranged in groups of 4 in scripture. Perhaps Irvine should have called his new group "The Quads" Long story short going in pairs today is unfounded and unscriptual. Doesn't mean you can't do it though. What do you say about the Holy Spirit sent the apostles outside of Israel Paul and Barnabas in Acts 13: 1-2 Now there were in the church that was at Antioch certain prophets and teachers; as Barnabas, and Simeon that was called Niger, and Lucius of Cyrene, and Manaen, which had been brought up with Herod the tetrarch, and Saul. As they ministered to the Lord, and fasted, the Holy Ghost said, Separate me Barnabas and Saul for the work whereunto I have called them.
Acts 15:35-40 Barnabas took John Mark; Paul took Silas.
I Cor. 1:1 Paul and Sosthenes II Cor. 1:1 Paul and Timothy
In Acts the apostles went 2 and 2; threesomes, and sometimes travel in small groups. For nearly 2000 years the apostles of men and women, The Vaudois, Albigenses, Poor men of Lyon/France, the Faith Mission, 2x2s went two and two, 3, and travel in small groups to special meetings, and conventions.
So, how can you say it unscriptual? and going in pairs outside of Israel, there has always been men and women had done for 2000 year in many nations around the world.
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Post by nathan on Feb 15, 2021 11:18:55 GMT -5
The Pilgrim Church by E.H. Broadbent Page 81-101
Who are the Vaudois and Where did they come from?
The Vaudois (A.D. 68-1800) are, in fact, "Descended" from those refugees from ITALY who after Paul (A.D. 68) apostle had there "Preached" the Gospel, abandoned their beautiful country and FLED, like the Woman mentioned in the Book of (Revelation, Chapter 12), to these Wild mountains (Swiss Alps), where they have to, this day, handed down the Gospel from "father to son," in the SAME purity and simplicity as it was preached by Paul apostle.
The Brethren in the valleys NEVER lost the knowledge and consciousness of their "Origin" and "Unbroken" history there. In the Alpine Valleys of Piedmont (Italy) there had been, for centuries, congregations of believers calling themselves brethren, who came widely known as "Waldenses or Vaudois," though they did NOT, themselves, accept the name. They trace their "Origin" in those parts, back to Apostolic times. Like many of the so-called Cathar, Paulican, and other churches, these were NOT "Reformed" NEVER having degenerated from the New Testament patterns, as had the Roman Catholic and Greek Orthodox and some others, but having ALWAYS maintained, in varying degree, the Apostolic tradition.
From the time of the Emperor Constantine (3rd century) there HAD continued to be a "Succession" of those who preached the Gospel and founded churches, uninfluenced by the relations between Church and State existing at the time. This accounts for the large bodies of Christians, well established in the Scriptures, and free from idolatry and the other evils prevailing in the dominant professing Church, to be found in the Taurus Mountains and Alpine valleys. These latter, in the quiet seclusion of their mountains, had remained unaffected by the development of the Roman Catholic Church. The "Vaudois" considered the Scriptures, both for doctrine and church order, to be binding of their time, and NOT rendered obsolete by change of circumstances. It was SAID of them that their whole manner of thought and Action was an endeavor to "HOLD FAST" the character of Original Christianity.
When, from the 14th century onward, the valleys were invaded and the people had to negotiate with surrounding rulers, they always emphasized this to the Prince of Savoy, who had the longest dealings with them, they could "ALWAYS" assert without fear of contradiction the uniformity of their faith, from Father to Son through time immemorial, even the Very AGE of the Apostles. To Francis I of France they said, in 1544: "This confession is that which we have received from our ancestors, even from Hand to Hand, according as their predecessors in ALL time and EVERY Age have Taught and delivered. Let your Highness consider, that this Religion, in which we live, is NOT merely our religion of the present day, or a religion discovered for the FIRST time only a few years ago, as our enemies Falsely pretend, but it is religion of our fathers and of our grandfathers, yea, of our forefathers and of our predecessors still more remote. It is the religion of the Saints and of the Martyrs, of the Confessors and of the Apostles."
When they came into contact with the Reformers in the 16th century, they said, "Our ancestors have often recounted us that we have EXISTED from the time of the Apostles. In all matters nevertheless we agree with you, and thinking as you think, from the Very days of the apostles themselves, we have ever been consistent respecting the faith."
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Post by nathan on Feb 15, 2021 11:22:40 GMT -5
Sending forth the Vaudois/apostles preachers into the world. Two callings: Apostles and Disciples.
Some among the brethren devoted themselves entirely to traveling and ministering the Word and were called "the Perfect" and in accordance with the Lord's word in (Matthew 19:21) "If thou will be Perfect, go and SELL that thou has, and give to the poor, and thou shall have treasures in heaven, and come and follow me."
The apostles or the Perfect "Possess nothing," they had NO homes, and Literally Acted upon this command. It was recognize that ALL believers are NOT call to such a path, and that the MAJORITY of believers, while acknowledge that they and ALL belong to Christ, should serve Him while "Remaining" in their families and continuing their usual occupations. Those whom they called "Apostles" played an important part in their testimony. While the elders of the churches and believers "Remained" in their homes, the "Apostles" traveled continually, visiting the churches. A distinction was made between those called to be Apostles or Perfect, and others followers of Christ, based on the fact that in the Gospel some were called to SELL ALL that they had and follow Christ, while others of His disciples were equally called to serve Him in the surroundings in which He found them.
The Vaudois/Waldensian Apostles had NO property or goods or home or family; if they HAD these they left them. Their life was one of self-denial, hardship and danger. They traveled in utmost simplicity, without money, without second suit, their needs being supplied by the "Believers" among whom they ministered the Word. They Always go Two and Two, an elder and a younger man, of whom the latter waited on his older companion. No need for seminary school since the Holy Spirit is the only Teacher they need. Their visits were highly esteemed, and they were treated with every token of respect and affection. They NEVER ask for anything; indeed, many undertook serious medical studies that they might be able to care for the bodies of those they met with. The Name "Friends of God" was often given to them.
They were required to commit to memory the Gospels of Matthew and John, the general epistles, and a part of those of Paul. They were instructed, moreover, during two or three successive winters, and trained to speak in Latin, and in Italian. They were supported by voluntary contributions of the believers. One part was given to the ministers, once to the poor, and the third was reserved for the missionaries of the Church. These missionaries always Went Forth Two and Two, a young man and old one. The latter was the Regidor, and his COMPANION the Coadjutor.
They traveled to Italy, where they had stations organized in many places, and secret adherents in almost all the towns. Each minister was required to become a missionary in his turn. The younger ones were thus initiated into the delicate duties of evangelization--each of them being under the experienced guidance of a man of years, who according to the discipline of his church, was his superior, and whom he was bound to obey in everything as a matter of duty, and not merely out of deference. The Older man, on his part, thus made his preparation for repose, by training for the Church Successors worthy of it and of himself. His task being accomplished, he could die in peace, with consolatory assurance of having Committed the Sacred Trust of the Gospel into Prudent and Zealous hands. Their maintenance of the absolute authority of the Word of God, and of the doctrine of Salvation by Jesus Christ.
The Vaudois, therefore, are not schematics, but continued inheritors of the Church founded by the Apostles. Very few of them were married (in the ministry); and their perpetual missions, their poverty, their missionary tours, their life always spent amidst warfare and dangers, make it easy to understand the reason of their Celibacy. In the annual synod (special gatherings), which was held in the Valleys, inquiry was made concerning the conduct of the ministers and changes of residence were made amongst them. Those actually employed in the ministry were changed from place to place every three years---two of them always exchanging places with another, except the aged men, who were no longer removed. The Vaudois were bound to visit the sick; they admonished those who behaved ill, and if remonstrance's produced no effect, they went to length of Excommunication; but it was very rare.
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Post by fixit on Feb 15, 2021 13:11:47 GMT -5
So did God tell you not to get married @wally ? yes looking back he always wanted me for the work but i resisted until about 2002? then i offered and of course we all know rejected. one worker FS when i asked about it later said sometimes if you don't do it on Gods time it just doesn't get done...his new plan is for me to show that one can be single and still profess in the kingdom, to be a good example of a prodigal son and to do a good job of taking care of mother. it has gone very well... With all due respect Wally, you and Nate would leave a trail of destruction behind you in the work. Better stick to your internet worker work.
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Post by chuck on Feb 15, 2021 15:51:22 GMT -5
He only sent them in pairs within Israel. That's it. From then on there is nothing in concrete about having to go in pairs. Plenty of cases of this. Also cases of having to work for a living even though tradition said they didn't have to. The Apostles are quite often arranged in groups of 4 in scripture. Perhaps Irvine should have called his new group "The Quads" Long story short going in pairs today is unfounded and unscriptual. Doesn't mean you can't do it though. What do you say about the Holy Spirit sent the apostles outside of Israel Paul and Barnabas in Acts 13: 1-2 Now there were in the church that was at Antioch certain prophets and teachers; as Barnabas, and Simeon that was called Niger, and Lucius of Cyrene, and Manaen, which had been brought up with Herod the tetrarch, and Saul. As they ministered to the Lord, and fasted, the Holy Ghost said, Separate me Barnabas and Saul for the work whereunto I have called them.
Acts 15:35-40 Barnabas took John Mark; Paul took Silas.
I Cor. 1:1 Paul and Sosthenes II Cor. 1:1 Paul and Timothy
In Acts the apostles went 2 and 2; threesomes, and sometimes travel in small groups. For nearly 2000 years the apostles of men and women, The Vaudois, Albigenses, Poor men of Lyon/France, the Faith Mission, 2x2s went two and two, 3, and travel in small groups to special meetings, and conventions.
So, how can you say it unscriptual? and going in pairs outside of Israel, there has always been men and women had done for 2000 year in many nations around the world.
I should have worded it better. The only command to go in pairs was in luke 10, That's it. Matthew 10 was only to Israel. I am not denying they went in pairs after luke 10. But they went alone also, and in different size groups. 1 year or 2000 years, does not mean celibate homeless 2x2 is the only way. It means if you think it's the only way you have grabbed a small portion of scripture out of context and applied it inappropriately. Luke 22. Ephesians 4:11 1 Corinthians 9:5,6 John 19:27
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2021 15:52:55 GMT -5
yes looking back he always wanted me for the work but i resisted until about 2002? then i offered and of course we all know rejected. one worker FS when i asked about it later said sometimes if you don't do it on Gods time it just doesn't get done...his new plan is for me to show that one can be single and still profess in the kingdom, to be a good example of a prodigal son and to do a good job of taking care of mother. it has gone very well... With all due respect Wally, you and Nate would leave a trail of destruction behind you in the work. Better stick to your internet worker work. i have not heard anything bad about nathan in my region while he was in the work. however one of your own workers came on here and questioned what you are doing in the truth. maybe its time for you to re-evaluate your elder position in our church along with your pals before you do any more destruction. with all due respect of course...
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Post by chuck on Feb 15, 2021 17:01:33 GMT -5
With all due respect Wally, you and Nate would leave a trail of destruction behind you in the work. Better stick to your internet worker work. i have not heard anything bad about nathan in my region while he was in the work. however one of your own workers came and here and questioned what you are doing in the truth. maybe its time for you to re-evaluate your elder position in our church along with your pals before you do any more destruction. with all due respect of course... I would think if you are being talked about you are closer to the truth than blindly conforming to the legalism of the Sadducees and Pharisees fixit
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Post by fixit on Feb 15, 2021 17:28:09 GMT -5
i have not heard anything bad about nathan in my region while he was in the work. however one of your own workers came and here and questioned what you are doing in the truth. maybe its time for you to re-evaluate your elder position in our church along with your pals before you do any more destruction. with all due respect of course... I would think if you are being talked about you are closer to the truth than blindly conforming to the legalism of the Sadducees and Pharisees fixitIt reminds me of... Luke 6:26 What sorrow awaits you who are praised by the crowds, for their ancestors also praised false prophets.
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Post by intelchips on Feb 15, 2021 18:37:45 GMT -5
I would think if you are being talked about you are closer to the truth than blindly conforming to the legalism of the Sadducees and Pharisees fixit It reminds me of... Luke 6:26 What sorrow awaits you who are praised by the crowds, for their ancestors also praised false prophets. My Friend fixit, Does it really matter what Nathan does? After all we all know: The word God is a factual human creation as two Canaanite God concepts were compiled by Israelites and later redefined by Roman citizens who added a son of God concept to compete against the Emperor who was first the son of god. All coming from primitive people who didn't know a volcano was not an angry deity the same primitive people that thought rain was a happy deity. Cheers
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2021 18:42:39 GMT -5
With all due respect Wally, you and Nate would leave a trail of destruction behind you in the work. Better stick to your internet worker work. i have not heard anything bad about nathan in my region while he was in the work. however one of your own workers came and here and questioned what you are doing in the truth. maybe its time for you to re-evaluate your elder position in our church along with your pals before you do any more destruction. with all due respect of course... Was this Review? He was a treat!
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