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Post by openingact34 on Jan 17, 2021 23:46:40 GMT -5
Amazing footage!
It seems that the media has tried ignore this and not report on it.
But in the midst of all the turmoil, Christians led a very passionate prayer on the floor of the Senate. You can watch about 8 minutes into this video.
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Post by BobWilliston on Jan 18, 2021 0:22:53 GMT -5
Amazing footage! It seems that the media has tried ignore this and not report on it. But in the midst of all the turmoil, Christians led a very passionate prayer on the floor of the Senate. You can watch about 8 minutes into this video. You must not have been watching the right TV channels. I watched a lot of this live while it was happening. We keep seeing more as the video is recovered from different sources. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2021 0:32:18 GMT -5
Amazing footage! It seems that the media has tried ignore this and not report on it. But in the midst of all the turmoil, Christians led a very passionate prayer on the floor of the Senate. You can watch about 8 minutes into this video. uh oh they said AMEN instead of AWOMEN that right there put the kibosh on the whole thing...  |
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Post by matisse on Jan 18, 2021 0:46:21 GMT -5
Amazing footage! It seems that the media has tried ignore this and not report on it. But in the midst of all the turmoil, Christians led a very passionate prayer on the floor of the Senate. You can watch about 8 minutes into this video. uh oh they said AMEN instead of AWOMEN that right there put the kibosh on the whole thing... ;) Unlike the content of your post, there is nothing in the meaning or etymology of the word 'AMEN' that suggests the presence of a prick. ;) |
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Post by openingact34 on Jan 18, 2021 0:50:17 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2021 0:50:36 GMT -5
uh oh they said AMEN instead of AWOMEN that right there put the kibosh on the whole thing... Unlike the content of your post, there is nothing in the meaning or etymology of the word 'AMEN' that suggests the presence of a prick. insult noted. however tell that to those on the left(your pals) that supposedly want non-gendered words/pronouns and think that A MEN indicates something with a prick but AWO MEN doesn't... |
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Post by BobWilliston on Jan 18, 2021 0:55:48 GMT -5
Unlike the content of your post, there is nothing in the meaning or etymology of the word 'AMEN' that suggests the presence of a prick. insult noted. however tell that to those on the left(your pals) that supposedly want non-gendered words/pronouns and think that A MEN indicates something with a prick but AWO MEN doesn't...  |
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Post by dmmichgood on Jan 18, 2021 3:37:12 GMT -5
Amazing footage! It seems that the media has tried ignore this and not report on it. But in the midst of all the turmoil, Christians led a very passionate prayer on the floor of the Senate. You can watch about 8 minutes into this video.
That was one the best yet of showing how people can be so deluded and how much damage they can cause by the inability to think in any kind of rational manner.
Guess the caves in which we once dwelled aren't that far behind us after all. 
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Jan 24, 2021 0:44:27 GMT -5
Brilliant, thank you for noticing that. In NZ political decisions are not based on mumbo jumbo from some goat herder from the iron age. |
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Post by dmmichgood on Jan 24, 2021 1:54:56 GMT -5
Amazing footage! It seems that the media has tried ignore this and not report on it. But in the midst of all the turmoil, Christians led a very passionate prayer on the floor of the Senate. You can watch about 8 minutes into this video. uh oh they said AMEN instead of AWOMEN that right there put the kibosh on the whole thing...
They weren't any women there!
No women allowed in that group!
Look at them closely.
Not one woman.
Think about it.
See the Proud Boys there?
The Proud Boys won't let women into their ranks.Understandable when you think about it.
Some "boys" just don't wants any knowledgeable women in their ranks.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2021 2:33:18 GMT -5
uh oh they said AMEN instead of AWOMEN that right there put the kibosh on the whole thing...
They weren't any women there!
No women allowed in that group!
Look at them closely.
Not one woman.
Think about it.
See the Proud Boys there?
The Proud Boys won't let women into their ranks.Understandable when you think about it.
Some "boys" just don't wants any knowledgeable women in their ranks.
yeah but if they had just said AWOMEN everything would have been alright. or are we saying men can't even say AWOMEN now? |
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Post by What Hat on Oct 29, 2021 22:50:56 GMT -5
Well, -what would you expect, wally?
They weren't any women there!
No women allowed in that group!
Look at them closely.
Not one woman.
Think about it.
See the Proud Boys there?
The Proud Boys won't let women into their ranks.Understandable when you think about it.
Some "boys" just don't wants any knowledgeable women in their ranks.
yeah but if they had just said AWOMEN everything would have been alright. or are we saying men can't even say AWOMEN now? Whatever are you going on about? Didn't look at the video, but the first thing that comes to mind is Matthew 7:21. Which means essentially that people praying doesn't mean a thing, one way or the other. It's how they live their lives. I'm fairly certain there will be more atheists in heaven than self-described Christians. Of course, there may not be a God in that part of heaven, what with them being atheists and all. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2021 23:02:58 GMT -5
yeah but if they had just said AWOMEN everything would have been alright. or are we saying men can't even say AWOMEN now? Whatever are you going on about? Didn't look at the video, but the first thing that comes to mind is Matthew 7:21. Which means essentially that people praying doesn't mean a thing, one way or the other. It's how they live their lives. I'm fairly certain there will be more atheists in heaven than self-described Christians. Of course, there may not be a God in that part of heaven, what with them being atheists and all. Sounds like you are ill informed on what happened and the Awomen movement at that time. There indeed may be FORMER atheist turned Christian in heaven. At the end if God ain't there it ain't heaven. Matt 7:21 doesn't mention prayer is useless. good try though |
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Post by What Hat on Oct 30, 2021 14:47:41 GMT -5
Whatever are you going on about? Didn't look at the video, but the first thing that comes to mind is Matthew 7:21. Which means essentially that people praying doesn't mean a thing, one way or the other. It's how they live their lives. I'm fairly certain there will be more atheists in heaven than self-described Christians. Of course, there may not be a God in that part of heaven, what with them being atheists and all. Sounds like you are ill informed on what happened and the Awomen movement at that time. There indeed may be FORMER atheist turned Christian in heaven. At the end if God ain't there it ain't heaven. Matt 7:21 doesn't mention prayer is useless. good try though Matthew 7:21 means a couple of things. 1) The verse indicates that observing someone praying is meaningless to you or to me. It's between the person and God. A person like yourself wouldn't know if the prayer at the Capitol was a meaningless show or sincere. 2) Even if the prayer is sincere, that's still insufficient to indicate a true Christian. So, given that, your video is also meaningless. We are better to go by the actions of those people on the day. Which aren't good. I think we can lump them in with Cortez the Killer, the Spanish Inquisition, and the Superior Court at the Salem Witch Trials, all of whom acted in the name of God. True, I've never heard of the awomen movement. I assumed it was a fig newton of your imagination. Are they related to the aperson movement? |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2021 15:58:07 GMT -5
Sounds like you are ill informed on what happened and the Awomen movement at that time. There indeed may be FORMER atheist turned Christian in heaven. At the end if God ain't there it ain't heaven. Matt 7:21 doesn't mention prayer is useless. good try though Matthew 7:21 means a couple of things. 1) The verse indicates that observing someone praying is meaningless to you or to me. It's between the person and God. A person like yourself wouldn't know if the prayer at the Capitol was a meaningless show or sincere. 2) Even if the prayer is sincere, that's still insufficient to indicate a true Christian. So, given that, your video is also meaningless. We are better to go by the actions of those people on the day. Which aren't good. I think we can lump them in with Cortez the Killer, the Spanish Inquisition, and the Superior Court at the Salem Witch Trials, all of whom acted in the name of God. True, I've never heard of the awomen movement. I assumed it was a fig newton of your imagination. Are they related to the aperson movement? Matt 7:21 does not mention anyone observing anything about prayer it does talk about miracles being done in his name that are futile. The above video is not mine...keep up... I suggest that you get more up to date on the video and the awomen movement so you don't make foolish posts... |
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Post by What Hat on Nov 2, 2021 10:06:58 GMT -5
Matthew 7:21 means a couple of things. 1) The verse indicates that observing someone praying is meaningless to you or to me. It's between the person and God. A person like yourself wouldn't know if the prayer at the Capitol was a meaningless show or sincere. 2) Even if the prayer is sincere, that's still insufficient to indicate a true Christian. So, given that, your video is also meaningless. We are better to go by the actions of those people on the day. Which aren't good. I think we can lump them in with Cortez the Killer, the Spanish Inquisition, and the Superior Court at the Salem Witch Trials, all of whom acted in the name of God. True, I've never heard of the awomen movement. I assumed it was a fig newton of your imagination. Are they related to the aperson movement? Matt 7:21 does not mention anyone observing anything about prayer it does talk about miracles being done in his name that are futile. The above video is not mine...keep up... I suggest that you get more up to date on the video and the awomen movement so you don't make foolish posts... Looking for the word "miracles" .... also looking to see where public prayers are delisted ... Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.Also, I reserve the right to make a foolish post from time to time. I am given to understand I'm in good company on that score.  |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2021 16:47:22 GMT -5
Matt 7:21 does not mention anyone observing anything about prayer it does talk about miracles being done in his name that are futile. The above video is not mine...keep up... I suggest that you get more up to date on the video and the awomen movement so you don't make foolish posts... Looking for the word "miracles" .... also looking to see where public prayers are delisted ... Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.Also, I reserve the right to make a foolish post from time to time. I am given to understand I'm in good company on that score. here are the relative verses: they list some miracles and don't list prayer... Mat 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Mat 7:22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? Mat 7:23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. |
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Post by What Hat on Nov 3, 2021 10:21:13 GMT -5
Looking for the word "miracles" .... also looking to see where public prayers are delisted ... Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.Also, I reserve the right to make a foolish post from time to time. I am given to understand I'm in good company on that score. here are the relative verses: they list some miracles and don't list prayer... Mat 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Mat 7:22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? Mat 7:23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. 1. You know Jesus wasn't big on public prayers. He condemned the Pharisees and their "broad phylacteries" which were used for prayer in the synagogue. Elsewhere Jesus proscribes private prayers not public ones. 2. Do you see the running theme in verse 22? It is "in thy name" - that is, making a show of the name of Jesus. Jesus provides three examples and to not include other "in thy name" public, just for show, activities is splitting hairs. 3. "Ye that work iniquity". "If it walks like a duck" comes to mind here. These people are trespassing, inciting violence, causing destruction, killing security officers and then they pray to Jesus. You think that somehow absolves them of their actions? What are you thinking? You must have a very strange interpretation of these verses, not to mention the entire New Testament. One theme across the entire Gospels - actions speak louder than words. |
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Post by openingact34 on Nov 3, 2021 12:52:36 GMT -5
here are the relative verses: they list some miracles and don't list prayer... Mat 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Mat 7:22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? Mat 7:23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. 1. You know Jesus wasn't big on public prayers. He condemned the Pharisees and their "broad phylacteries" which were used for prayer in the synagogue. Elsewhere Jesus proscribes private prayers not public ones. 2. Do you see the running theme in verse 22? It is "in thy name" - that is, making a show of the name of Jesus. Jesus provides three examples and to not include other "in thy name" public, just for show, activities is splitting hairs. 3. "Ye that work iniquity". "If it walks like a duck" comes to mind here. These people are trespassing, inciting violence, causing destruction, killing security officers and then they pray to Jesus. You think that somehow absolves them of their actions? What are you thinking? You must have a very strange interpretation of these verses, not to mention the entire New Testament. One theme across the entire Gospels - actions speak louder than words. To be fair, Jesus had his own little "Storming of the Temple" adventure where he violently and illegally caused damage and destruction. He acted very similarly to a Q follower in response to his perception of corruption. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2021 18:03:20 GMT -5
here are the relative verses: they list some miracles and don't list prayer... Mat 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Mat 7:22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? Mat 7:23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. 1. You know Jesus wasn't big on public prayers. He condemned the Pharisees and their "broad phylacteries" which were used for prayer in the synagogue. Elsewhere Jesus proscribes private prayers not public ones. 2. Do you see the running theme in verse 22? It is "in thy name" - that is, making a show of the name of Jesus. Jesus provides three examples and to not include other "in thy name" public, just for show, activities is splitting hairs. 3. "Ye that work iniquity". "If it walks like a duck" comes to mind here. These people are trespassing, inciting violence, causing destruction, killing security officers and then they pray to Jesus. You think that somehow absolves them of their actions? What are you thinking? You must have a very strange interpretation of these verses, not to mention the entire New Testament. One theme across the entire Gospels - actions speak louder than words. Nice distraction, If you were gonna talk about phylacteries and public prayer you should have quoted the appropriate verse(s) instead of the one you did...and that still doesn't change anything about the AWOMEN movement that I took a jab at Prophecy is not prayer... No one killed any security officers. One died from a stroke and 2 or maybe 3 committed suicide...the only one "killed" was Ashley Babbitt by a security officer... I never said that they were absolved of anything. What are you thinking? Likewise a refresher course on the OT and NT would be beneficial for you... |
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Post by What Hat on Nov 4, 2021 9:27:28 GMT -5
1. You know Jesus wasn't big on public prayers. He condemned the Pharisees and their "broad phylacteries" which were used for prayer in the synagogue. Elsewhere Jesus proscribes private prayers not public ones. 2. Do you see the running theme in verse 22? It is "in thy name" - that is, making a show of the name of Jesus. Jesus provides three examples and to not include other "in thy name" public, just for show, activities is splitting hairs. 3. "Ye that work iniquity". "If it walks like a duck" comes to mind here. These people are trespassing, inciting violence, causing destruction, killing security officers and then they pray to Jesus. You think that somehow absolves them of their actions? What are you thinking? You must have a very strange interpretation of these verses, not to mention the entire New Testament. One theme across the entire Gospels - actions speak louder than words. Nice distraction, If you were gonna talk about phylacteries and public prayer you should have quoted the appropriate verse(s) instead of the one you did...and that still doesn't change anything about the AWOMEN movement that I took a jab at Prophecy is not prayer... No one killed any security officers. One died from a stroke and 2 or maybe 3 committed suicide...the only one "killed" was Ashley Babbitt by a security officer... I never said that they were absolved of anything. What are you thinking? Likewise a refresher course on the OT and NT would be beneficial for you... I don't know anything about a so called "Awomen" movement, so this was never about that. The question under consideration is your indignation at the media ignoring footage of rioters praying during the riots. As if that's a good thing. I think it indicates the exact opposite - that for them Jesus gives licence to act in ways very opposite to his actual teachings. |
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Post by What Hat on Nov 4, 2021 9:34:23 GMT -5
1. You know Jesus wasn't big on public prayers. He condemned the Pharisees and their "broad phylacteries" which were used for prayer in the synagogue. Elsewhere Jesus proscribes private prayers not public ones. 2. Do you see the running theme in verse 22? It is "in thy name" - that is, making a show of the name of Jesus. Jesus provides three examples and to not include other "in thy name" public, just for show, activities is splitting hairs. 3. "Ye that work iniquity". "If it walks like a duck" comes to mind here. These people are trespassing, inciting violence, causing destruction, killing security officers and then they pray to Jesus. You think that somehow absolves them of their actions? What are you thinking? You must have a very strange interpretation of these verses, not to mention the entire New Testament. One theme across the entire Gospels - actions speak louder than words. To be fair, Jesus had his own little "Storming of the Temple" adventure where he violently and illegally caused damage and destruction. He acted very similarly to a Q follower in response to his perception of corruption. Remember when Peter cut off a soldier's ear and Jesus restored it. So why did he act violently in one case and not in the other? I think you raise a good point. When is violence justified? From my own perspective, and you may disagree, I have little empathy for riots and insurrection caused by people with essentially First World problems. Remember the BLM marches? The black people of America do have something to complain about - access to education, health care, representation in government, et cetera. Yet when they marched in Washington they didn't invade the Capitol. Probably overturned some money lenders' tables and that's it. |
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Post by dmmichgood on Nov 4, 2021 13:26:58 GMT -5
I thought that this was encouraging!
Just because one has money enough to fly on a private jet doesn't always keep them out of jail!
Capitol rioter who tweeted ‘definitely not going to jail’ sentenced to jail time
David Covucci 55 mins ago
photo: A woman smiling into camera. (L) and people breaking into the capitol (R).© Provided by Daily Dot
A woman who stormed the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6 boasted on the site in March that she was "definitely not going to jail" back in March.
That claim does not appear to have held up in court.
Jenna Ryan, who flew on a private jet to D.C. to attend the Stop the Steal rally, was sentenced to 60 days in jail for her actions, according to HuffPost.
Ryan also added in her tweet, which was in response to an Oprah meme sent her way, "Sorry I have blonde hair white skin a great job a great future and I'm not going to jail."
Alas.
Ryan live-streamed herself on Facebook from inside the U.S. Capitol and posted a photo of her standing next to a broken window.
cont.@www.msn.com/en-us/entertainment/entertainment-celebrity/capitol-rioter-who-tweeted-definitely-not-going-to-jail-sentenced-to-jail-time/ar-AAQk5sS?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531
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Post by dmmichgood on Nov 4, 2021 14:09:53 GMT -5
Nice distraction, If you were gonna talk about phylacteries and public prayer you should have quoted the appropriate verse(s) instead of the one you did...and that still doesn't change anything about the AWOMEN movement that I took a jab at Prophecy is not prayer... No one killed any security officers. One died from a stroke and 2 or maybe 3 committed suicide...the only one "killed" was Ashley Babbitt by a security officer... I never said that they were absolved of anything. What are you thinking? Likewise a refresher course on the OT and NT would be beneficial for you... I don't know anything about a so called "Awomen" movement, so this was never about that. The question under consideration is your indignation at the media ignoring footage of rioters praying during the riots. As if that's a good thing. I think it indicates the exact opposite - that for them Jesus gives licence to act in ways very opposite to his actual teachings.
That is because there is NO such a movement by any group of women.
This where the term came from:
Rep. Emanuel Cleaver made the additional ending to a prayer while leading the House in a prayer during the swearing-in of the 117th Congress.
Cleaver, who is an ordained minister, asked God to give the new Congress the strength to overcome selfishness, prejudice and ideology, and to heal the partisan divisions of 2020.
“We ask it in the name of the monotheistic God, Brahma, and (the) God known by many names, many different faiths, Amen, and Awomen.”
Wally is great at picking up something he doesn't like and adding to it!
So if anyone created an "AWOMEN movement," -it must have been Wally, -it wasn't any of us!  |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2021 17:38:22 GMT -5
Nice distraction, If you were gonna talk about phylacteries and public prayer you should have quoted the appropriate verse(s) instead of the one you did...and that still doesn't change anything about the AWOMEN movement that I took a jab at Prophecy is not prayer... No one killed any security officers. One died from a stroke and 2 or maybe 3 committed suicide...the only one "killed" was Ashley Babbitt by a security officer... I never said that they were absolved of anything. What are you thinking? Likewise a refresher course on the OT and NT would be beneficial for you... I don't know anything about a so called "Awomen" movement, so this was never about that. The question under consideration is your indignation at the media ignoring footage of rioters praying during the riots. As if that's a good thing. I think it indicates the exact opposite - that for them Jesus gives licence to act in ways very opposite to his actual teachings. My post you commented on was about Amen vs Awomen of course it was about that. It was not my video or my concern about anyone ignoring anything... |
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Post by dmmichgood on Nov 4, 2021 18:45:54 GMT -5
I don't know anything about a so called "Awomen" movement, so this was never about that. The question under consideration is your indignation at the media ignoring footage of rioters praying during the riots. As if that's a good thing. I think it indicates the exact opposite - that for them Jesus gives licence to act in ways very opposite to his actual teachings. My post you commented on was about Amen vs Awomen of course it was about that. It was not my video or my concern about anyone ignoring anything...
You were the one who made one comment by one person into whole "movement" as if there were by whole lot of women involved!
It was not even a woman but a man who said it!
That is how some people will twist things into something that doesn't even exist but suit's their own prejudices.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2021 19:36:34 GMT -5
My post you commented on was about Amen vs Awomen of course it was about that. It was not my video or my concern about anyone ignoring anything...
You were the one who made one comment by one person into whole "movement" as if there were by whole lot of women involved!
It was not even a woman but a man who said it!
That is how some people will twist things into something that doesn't even exist but suit's their own prejudices.
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Post by What Hat on Nov 6, 2021 17:05:48 GMT -5
I don't know anything about a so called "Awomen" movement, so this was never about that. The question under consideration is your indignation at the media ignoring footage of rioters praying during the riots. As if that's a good thing. I think it indicates the exact opposite - that for them Jesus gives licence to act in ways very opposite to his actual teachings. My post you commented on was about Amen vs Awomen of course it was about that. It was not my video or my concern about anyone ignoring anything... My comments pertain to the video of people praying posted by 'openingact34'. |
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