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Post by nathan on Oct 21, 2020 11:04:31 GMT -5
*** Wouldn't you say this is the greatest amazing Napin that was able to fore tell the future for thousands of years before the events to happen in great details... Like the birth of the Messiah/Christ Jesus, the place of where he was born, his life, death, Resurrection and coming back to establish His eternal kingdom on earth. I could write a fictional story about events that never happened, and can never be proven. I could also write in that fictional story prophecies foretold earlier in my book that I fulfilled later in the book. If you believed my book, you would believe I too am a prophet. How OT prophecies connect with the NT is covered in the movie. This literary technique was used to lead the Jews into believing early Roman Christianity. PROPHECIES: IMAGINARY AND UNFULFILLED*** Hundreds OLD and New Test. prophecies have been fulfilled and many more yet to be fulfilled in the near future. Most Jews did NOT and MANY Jews today don't believe in Jesus as the Messiah.
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Post by nathan on Oct 21, 2020 11:05:58 GMT -5
Your argument is: I believe what is written in the bible is true because the bible says; holy prophets directed by god wrote his plans. It's true because the bible says so. That argument is the same as the napkin argument; The napkin religion is the one true religon, because it says so right here on this napkin.
*** Wouldn't you say this is the greatest amazing Napin that was able to fore tell the future for thousands of years before the events to happen in great details... Like the birth of the Messiah/Christ Jesus, the place of where he was born, his life, death, Resurrection and coming back to establish His eternal kingdom on earth. Jesus has His Truth and Way on earth. Satan and the fallen angels offer people the counterfeit through denomination churches and false religions and at the end they receive NO ETERNAL LIFE. Satan can give anyone eternal life ONLY through Christ Jesus.
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Post by xna on Oct 21, 2020 11:24:06 GMT -5
*** Hundreds OLD and New Test. prophecies have been fulfilled and many more yet to be fulfilled in the near future. The bible prophecy formula Step One: Write a prophecy Step Two: Later in the book write; That prophecy was fulfilled. Shazam, prophecy fulfilled. Prophecy and Misquotes
The nature of prophecy in the BibleMost Jews did NOT and MANY Jews today don't believe in Jesus as the Messiah. People believe many different things for different reasons. You goto love those Jews for Jesus
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Post by nathan on Oct 21, 2020 13:14:39 GMT -5
*** Hundreds OLD and New Test. prophecies have been fulfilled and many more yet to be fulfilled in the near future. The bible prophecy formula Step One: Write a prophecy Step Two: Later in the book write; That prophecy was fulfilled. Shazam, prophecy fulfilled. Prophecy and Misquotes
The nature of prophecy in the BibleMost Jews did NOT and MANY Jews today don't believe in Jesus as the Messiah. People believe many different things for different reasons. You goto love those [ahref="https://jewsforjesus.org/"]Jews for Jesus [/a][/quote] You atheists are like unto the unbelieving Jews in Jesus days, it didn't matter how many miracles he had performed heal the blinds, cast out demons, the deaf hear, the mute speak, turned water into wine and walking on the water in the middle of stormy wind, feed the multi. of 3000 and 5000 people with a few loaves of bread and fish. He even raised 3 people from the dead and they still didn't believe he was the Messiah or God's Son. It will take a great miracles for you ex-2×2 atheists to believe in God again.
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Post by 1chinesewhispers on Oct 21, 2020 13:21:07 GMT -5
Were you there to see all this ? Up close and personal ? Or do you just choose to believe in a book made of papers . By some people who made it up at some point in time . !!!!! Cause anyone can write whatever they want .
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Post by 1chinesewhispers on Oct 21, 2020 13:27:26 GMT -5
Did our lovely dad FEAR NOT ? Our father also had a television . We didn’t hide it . It was right there in the den . IDK But I think 🤔 we got the defiance disorder from dad ! Love ya Dad
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Post by xna on Oct 21, 2020 13:52:51 GMT -5
You atheists are like unto the unbelieving Jews in Jesus days Yes, atheists are unbelievers by definition. a-theist = "a person who does not believe in the existence of a god or gods" prefix " a" = "not, without" " theist" = "a person who believes in the existence of a god or gods" We christian atheists here are just like you; except we believe in one less god than you. We christian atheist here are just like you; in the eyes of those who believe in these other top 10 most worshipped gods. They would say we both are atheists. 1. Allah 2. Shiva 3. Buddha 4. Brahma 5. Ganesha 6. Mahavira 7. Vishnu 8. Durga 9. Krishna 10. Hanuman It will take a great miracles for you ex-2×2 atheists to believe in God again. That could work.
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Post by nathan on Oct 21, 2020 14:24:46 GMT -5
You atheists are like unto the unbelieving Jews in Jesus days Yes, atheists are unbelievers by definition. a-theist = "a person who does not believe in the existence of a god or gods" prefix " a" = "not, without" " theist" = "a person who believes in the existence of a god or gods" We christian atheists here are just like you; except we believe in one less god than you. We christian atheist here are just like you; in the eyes of those who believe in these other top 10 most worshipped gods. They would say we both are atheists. 1. Allah 2. Shiva 3. Buddha 4. Brahma 5. Ganesha 6. Mahavira 7. Vishnu 8. Durga 9. Krishna 10. Hanuman It will take a great miracles for you ex-2×2 atheists to believe in God again. That could work. *** Are you a theist Christian? and you don't believe in Yahweh God. There are many gods out there that people worship them beside Yahweh God and HE knows That and said to the Jews and Christians NOT to worship no other gods except God the Fathet, Christ and Holy Spirit.
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Post by 1chinesewhispers on Oct 21, 2020 14:29:02 GMT -5
There is no God . Once there was , but nada a God would not allow such evil to happen to innocent kids Period !
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2020 14:42:03 GMT -5
There is no God . Once there was , but nada a God would not allow such evil to happen to innocent kids Period ! “God is dead. God remains dead. And we have killed him. How shall we comfort ourselves, the murderers of all murderers? What was holiest and mightiest of all that the world has yet owned has bled to death under our knives: who will wipe this blood off us? What water is there for us to clean ourselves? What festivals of atonement, what sacred games shall we have to invent? Is not the greatness of this deed too great for us? Must we ourselves not become gods simply to appear worthy of it?“ Friedrich Nietzsche.
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Post by xna on Oct 21, 2020 14:48:15 GMT -5
Are you a theist Christian? No and you don't believe in Yahweh God. True. I don't believe in any of the gods, so that would make me a " pan-atheist" "Pan" greek prefix meaning "all"
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2020 15:21:04 GMT -5
You atheists are like unto the unbelieving Jews in Jesus days Yes, atheists are unbelievers by definition. a-theist = "a person who does not believe in the existence of a god or gods" prefix " a" = "not, without" " theist" = "a person who believes in the existence of a god or gods" We christian atheists here are just like you; except we believe in one less god than you. We christian atheist here are just like you; in the eyes of those who believe in these other top 10 most worshipped gods. They would say we both are atheists. 1. Allah 2. Shiva 3. Buddha 4. Brahma 5. Ganesha 6. Mahavira 7. Vishnu 8. Durga 9. Krishna 10. Hanuman It will take a great miracles for you ex-2×2 atheists to believe in God again. That could work. It wouldn’t take great miracles for me to believe in the Christian God again. I’d happily settle for one tiny little effort from Him. If God would just regrow one person’s missing leg that would do it for me. One tiny little miracle like that shouldn’t be beyond a loving, caring, omnipotent, omnipresent, great God of the universe one would think. But yet it is. Matt10
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Post by nathan on Oct 21, 2020 15:40:23 GMT -5
Are you a theist Christian? No and you don't believe in Yahweh God. True. I don't believe in any of the gods, so that would make me a " pan-atheist" "Pan" greek prefix meaning "all" *** How can this be? You believe in all gods but not the god of Yahweh? Are you a racist.
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Post by 1chinesewhispers on Oct 21, 2020 15:47:22 GMT -5
Every time I pick up my phone and see my forever ♾ gone daughter from COVID19 . I don’t believe in a loving god .She believed but that didn’t help ! The last time I fought physically with a dude 6 years older to get away , a 2X2 where was God ? I fought my way out of a car . Never happened again after I was excommunicated . Safer with worldly peeps .
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Post by nathan on Oct 21, 2020 15:54:24 GMT -5
Yes, atheists are unbelievers by definition. a-theist = "a person who does not believe in the existence of a god or gods" prefix " a" = "not, without" " theist" = "a person who believes in the existence of a god or gods" We christian atheists here are just like you; except we believe in one less god than you. We christian atheist here are just like you; in the eyes of those who believe in these other top 10 most worshipped gods. They would say we both are atheists. 1. Allah 2. Shiva 3. Buddha 4. Brahma 5. Ganesha 6. Mahavira 7. Vishnu 8. Durga 9. Krishna 10. Hanuman That could work. It wouldn’t take great miracles for me to believe in the Christian God again. I’d happily settle for one tiny little effort from Him. If God would just regrow one person’s missing leg that would do it for me. One tiny little miracle like that shouldn’t be beyond a loving, caring, omnipotent, omnipresent, great God of the universe one would think. But yet it is. Matt10 ** When Jesus returns to set up His eternal kingdom on earth, Yahweh God can do better job than that He will give the believers everlasting and immortal resurrection bodies will NEVER get sick or die again. No need to replace any bodies parts. The mortals bodies that we receive from Adam and Eve are broken and last only 100 yrs or a little longer. God created Adam and Eve immortals human beings but they SOLD their souls their souls to Satan/Serpent in the Garden of Eden and they became mortal beings who died like the animals. It was their choice and the future of their human children, it wasn't God's will at all for them to spend eternity in the lake of fire with Satan. God plan was for Adam and Eve and their children to Rule with Christ in the Universe. Christ came down from heaven to RESTORE the humans immortality, which He created them with so, we believers can rule and reign with Him when he returns.
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Post by 1chinesewhispers on Oct 21, 2020 16:09:14 GMT -5
Is this based on science or a book , written by whomever wanted to put words on paper . For peeps to read and believe ? Paper burns 🥵 I think I will just hang in with the universe that provides my human needs .
Between 2-13 years old , what could I have done to start the abuse of my earthly body ? Is that laid out in the bible ? A promise of safety was NOT given by a God . I am not a atheist , I do believe in something but not a loving God .
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Post by xna on Oct 21, 2020 16:19:29 GMT -5
I don't believe in any of the gods, so that would make me a " pan-atheist" "Pan" greek prefix meaning "all" *** How can this be? You believe in all God's but not the god of Yahweh?
Re-read my reply what a pan-atheist is. Are you a racist. I try not to be a racist. I try to see everyone as being of equal value. But on some level I suspect I still have some prejudices toward people not like me. During my working years I went out of my way to hire people of "different races". Some who tell me, I am their best friend are a "different race". I think we are all one race; the "human race". I grew up in an area which was very racist and Christian. I was taught the bible from a very young age. I learned what the bible taught about slavery before I ever saw a person "of a different race." I was also taught about the "curse of Ham" in the bible. (Genesis 9:22-26 Where drunk Noah made one son a slave to the other.)
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Post by maryhig on Oct 21, 2020 16:34:41 GMT -5
Re. Fear God Vs fear not for I am with thee
We are to fear God, I fear God because l know that if I disobey him, I will suffer for it. But it's a good fear because it's a fear that stops me doing what's wrong before God and helps me to what's right.
The other fear, the fear not because I am with you, is regarding when you speak the word of God and bare witness to the truth. We don't fear others or what they will say or do to us because God is with those who belong to him and he will strengthen them and give them what to say when they need it.
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Post by xna on Oct 21, 2020 16:46:21 GMT -5
Re. Fear God Vs fear not for I am with thee We are to fear God, I fear God because l know that if I disobey him, I will suffer for it. But it's a good fear because it's a fear that stops me doing what's wrong before God and helps me to what's right. The other fear, the fear not because I am with you, is regarding when you speak the word of God and bare witness to the truth. We don't fear others or what they will say or do to us because God is with those who belong to him and he will strengthen them and give them what to say when they need it. Then there is this verse. 1 John 4: 18 There is no fear in love; but perfect love casteth out fear: because fear hath torment. He that feareth is not made perfect in love.
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Post by jetmech on Oct 21, 2020 16:47:48 GMT -5
Re. Fear God Vs fear not for I am with thee We are to fear God, I fear God because l know that if I disobey him, I will suffer for it. But it's a good fear because it's a fear that stops me doing what's wrong before God and helps me to what's right. The other fear, the fear not because I am with you, is regarding when you speak the word of God and bare witness to the truth. We don't fear others or what they will say or do to us because God is with those who belong to him and he will strengthen them and give them what to say when they need it. I like your post; but, I tend to think like Wally on this FEAR/FEAR NOT issue. I believe the context intended by the FEAR verses is to have respect for the awesomeness of God.
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Post by 1chinesewhispers on Oct 21, 2020 16:49:27 GMT -5
Age 2 needed God !? Nope nobody there . Now is that a loving God ?! Nope 👎
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Post by maryhig on Oct 21, 2020 16:53:26 GMT -5
Re. Fear God Vs fear not for I am with thee We are to fear God, I fear God because l know that if I disobey him, I will suffer for it. But it's a good fear because it's a fear that stops me doing what's wrong before God and helps me to what's right. The other fear, the fear not because I am with you, is regarding when you speak the word of God and bare witness to the truth. We don't fear others or what they will say or do to us because God is with those who belong to him and he will strengthen them and give them what to say when they need it. Then there is this verse. 1 John 4: 18 There is no fear in love; but perfect love casteth out fear: because fear hath torment. He that feareth is not made perfect in love.
That's true, it means we don't fear the world, and if we are living right before God then we have no reason to fear him. A perfect love is the perfect love of God. And if we have his love within our hearts and we live by his will then we won't fear him because we are doing right before him. I'm talking about wilfully doing what's wrong before God, I would fear him then because I know that when I do wrong it comes back on me.
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Post by 1chinesewhispers on Oct 21, 2020 16:57:56 GMT -5
Yet many on here have not been used and abused . So they take the I believe in God stance . We speak out and doors start to close . Don’t ask Don’t tell Or you may go to hell ! We got effd up for life ?! Because we are here still breathing We never succeeded in our suicide attempts Really ! One day the moment may come to others who have be abused . Get real man ✅ It’s simple I have a philosophy of life If it didn’t happen to you don’t give advise you are not qualified because you have no idea I don’t quote bible verses I have 3 but they are just books with random words now . There is no comfort , and I really don’t fear a lot A little to late !
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Post by maryhig on Oct 21, 2020 17:03:10 GMT -5
Re. Fear God Vs fear not for I am with thee We are to fear God, I fear God because l know that if I disobey him, I will suffer for it. But it's a good fear because it's a fear that stops me doing what's wrong before God and helps me to what's right. The other fear, the fear not because I am with you, is regarding when you speak the word of God and bare witness to the truth. We don't fear others or what they will say or do to us because God is with those who belong to him and he will strengthen them and give them what to say when they need it. I like your post; but, I tend to think like Wally on this FEAR/FEAR NOT issue. I believe the context intended by the FEAR verses is to have respect for the awesomeness of God. Would you not worry about wilfully sinning before God? It's not a terrifying fear like watching a horror film, it's just that I know that I'm to live right before God and I would worry if I did anything wrong on purpose, because when we know God and we purposely do wrong it comes back on us. And I know that once I do go wrong I am to turn to God and pray for forgiveness and try to put it right if I can. And there's this Proverbs 9 The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom: and the knowledge of the holy is understanding. Once we fear God we will obey him, and this is the beginning of wisdom, because wisdom comes through the Spirit and God gives his Spirit to those who obey him. Acts 5 And we are his witnesses of these things; and so is also the Holy Ghost, whom God hath given to them that obey him.
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Post by xna on Oct 21, 2020 17:07:44 GMT -5
That's true, it means we don't fear the world, and if we are living right before God then we have no reason to fear him. A perfect love is the perfect love of God. And if we have his love within our hearts and we live by his will then we won't fear him because we are doing right before him. I'm talking about wilfully doing what's wrong before God, I would fear him then because I know that when I do wrong it comes back on me. You can pick your favorite verse about fearing god. Should we fear God
I would say you can make the strongest case from the bible that you should very much fear god. Remember he is the guy who killed so many and is the same guy who made hell. A funny thing about fear is; you can't do much to control it. It comes and goes on it's own. Another funny thing about fear is; Kids may be afraid of ghosts, but when they grow up and learn there aren't any ghosts, the fear of ghosts goes away. No amount of trying on their part can bring back the fear of ghosts again.
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Post by maryhig on Oct 21, 2020 17:21:19 GMT -5
That's true, it means we don't fear the world, and if we are living right before God then we have no reason to fear him. A perfect love is the perfect love of God. And if we have his love within our hearts and we live by his will then we won't fear him because we are doing right before him. I'm talking about wilfully doing what's wrong before God, I would fear him then because I know that when I do wrong it comes back on me. You can pick your favorite verse about fearing god. Should we fear God
I would say you can make the strongest case from the bible that you should very much fear god. Remember he is the guy who killed so many and is the same guy who made hell. A funny thing about fear is; you can't do much to control it. It comes and goes on it's own. Another funny thing about fear is; Kids may be afraid of ghosts, but when they grow up and learn there aren't any ghosts, the fear of ghosts goes away. No amount of trying on their part can bring back the fear of ghosts again. As I said, it's not a fear in that way. It's not like being shared of ghosts, it's a fear like a reverence, in a way I know I'm to do what's right before God and it makes me a better person. And I don't see hell like many here so either, I don't agree with judging where people go only God can judge our hearts, and the only way we are to judge is by the word of God and leave the judgement of the heart to God as he is the righteous judge, we are no better than anyone else, it's only that God helping those who belong to him to overcome the works of the flesh, so they should be bringing his love and the life of Christ to others. And is wrong to condemn others like some do on here especially in the way they see hell to be, a literal place where you literally burn, I don't see it like that. I remember a man on another site, he was a Christian and he was speaking to a jahovahs witness. And he was saying how saved he was and how unsaved the jahovahs witness was. Then he said something that really did sicken me, he said that the JW was going to hell on judgement day, and that he would be glad and standing by the lake of fire watching him being thrown in. I couldn't believe it, even to want this to happen to someone is sickening, he saw the lake of fire as literal and was quite happy to sit and watch people being literally thrown in. I don't see the lake of fire in this way at all, it has a deeper spiritual meaning.
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Post by 1chinesewhispers on Oct 21, 2020 17:37:15 GMT -5
So was it like I am two and not able to express my love and reverence to God , so I should be abused and all will be well . I gotta stop for today cause I seriously want to vomit 🤢 . No just I was abused , but my girls as well . Ones dead the other still a junkie . Ok works for me after all I should have known at age two right ? My bad ! The Truth is no different than all religion . Abuse happens , the pay people off , shuffle the offenders and do not speak of it again . The worker’s lie to government’s that they are teachers . Like really it’s ok for worker’s to lie ? WTH They should fear for that along with a list of misdeeds . As they device officials Really
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Post by xna on Oct 21, 2020 17:38:22 GMT -5
As I said, it's not a fear in that way. It's not like being shared of ghosts, it's a fear like a reverence, in a way I know I'm to do what's right before God and it makes me a better person. And I don't see hell like many here so either, I don't agree with judging where people go only God can judge our hearts, and the only way we are to judge is by the word of God and leave the judgement of the heart to God as he is the righteous judge, we are no better than anyone else, it's only that God helping those who belong to him to overcome the works of the flesh, so they should be bringing his love and the life of Christ to others. And is wrong to condemn others like some do on here especially in the way they see hell to be, a literal place where you literally burn, I don't see it like that. I remember a man on another site, he was a Christian and he was speaking to a jahovahs witness. And he was saying how saved he was and how unsaved the jahovahs witness was. Then he said something that really did sicken me, he said that the JW was going to hell on judgement day, and that he would be glad and standing by the lake of fire watching him being thrown in. I couldn't believe it, even to want this to happen to someone is sickening, he saw the lake of fire as literal and was quite happy to sit and watch people being literally thrown in. I don't see the lake of fire in this way at all, it has a deeper spiritual meaning. From your post I find you to be a kind caring person. I hope all people can have more love and joy, and less fear and hate in their life. From the little I know of the Cooneyites, they seem to show more love and kindness than the 2x2 sect. The one thing I like about the JW is they think hell is just being in the absence of god, not eternal torture. But they are big on shunning which I despise. I find fear is the main engine in all the abrahamic religions. I find the strongest emotion is love, and fear is the second strongest emotion.
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