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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2020 21:52:44 GMT -5
Guess that if you administer rules, membership would drop. If membership drops so does activity. It activity drops then so does revenue. I guess one of the advantages in owning a forum is the revenue. So I guess it all has to do with the "Almighty Dollar" more than the Almighty. But who setup this TMB proboard Redback. Was it Mary Maltilda or Benny Hill? admin and scott ross i think?
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Post by fixit on Jul 19, 2020 21:55:03 GMT -5
It almost seems that a couple of 2x2's have been given instructions to sabotage TMB. There's a conspiracy theory that just might be possible. Has Review instructed Nathan and Wally?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2020 21:57:00 GMT -5
It almost seems that a couple of 2x2's have been given instructions to sabotage TMB. There's a conspiracy theory that just might be possible. Has Review instructed Nathan and Wally? that would be more your dept. elder....
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2020 21:58:28 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2020 22:01:22 GMT -5
But who setup this TMB proboard Redback. Was it Mary Maltilda or Benny Hill? admin and scott ross i think? Thankyou
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Post by openingact34 on Jul 19, 2020 23:23:14 GMT -5
What a fine, corrupt member of the prison-industrial complex. Nathan is a productive member of society, poses no threat to himself or others and yet the wicked 2x2 exes and 2x2 "reformers" seethe with hatred toward him and can't wait to get him "locked up". Meanwhile, the same critics believe that all human language and races come from God scrambling them after people attempted to build a big tower to Heaven. They believe that life on planet Earth was saved from a "great flood" by an 800 year old guy who build a giant boat to hold 2 of each terrestrial animal. (which magically managed to return to all their respective ocean-bounded islands without leaving a trace of migration along the way). He is not corrupt, and lurks on TMB. He is not a 2 * 2. He works in private practice, but contracts to the Police.
Your comment re: what I believe, are completely untrue.
I am commenting on the damage that Nathan does to the image of the Church, and TMB, and have no wish to see him locked up, and have never said that. I would like to see him get help however.
I suspect that you have some deep seated anger issues re: the Church that are unresolved.
When "private contractors" get involved, there is an enormous amount of financial incentive in maximizing the number of people who are imprisoned and institutionalized. Minorities who are disadvantaged in fighting the system are especially victimized. I'd suggest you reevaluate your relationship with this person if he is bragging about committing conspiracy theorists on that basis and making online diagnoses of message board posters with no real-life interaction. If you look around, you will find numerous surveys pointing to widespread belief in conspiracy theories. Health benefits of essential oils: 34% Ghosts, spirits, and other paranormal specters exist: 31% Health benefits of aromatherapy: 31% Technologically advanced civilizations existed prior to modern era: 21% Extraterrestrial visitors have come to earth: 20% Efficacy of homeopathy: 19% Illuminati, or a group of powerful people exerting control over world events: 16% Unclassified organisms like "bigfoot" or "yeti" or "Nessie" exist: 14% Astrology is real: 13% Numerology: 8% The existence of chemtrails: 7% Palmistry, seances and psychic readings are real: 7% Efficacy of crystal healing: 6% Flat earth: 2% www.insider.com/here-are-the-unproven-theories-americans-believe-in-the-most-2019-7In another recent story, 40% of US Republicans said they believed that Bill Gates wanted to use coronavirus vaccines to implant location-tracking microchips into people. www.businessinsider.com/republicans-bill-gates-covid-19-vaccine-tracking-microchip-study-2020-5And I stand by the claim that nearly all of these are still more believable than the claims that religion makes.
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Post by Pragmatic on Jul 19, 2020 23:37:16 GMT -5
He is not corrupt, and lurks on TMB. He is not a 2 * 2. He works in private practice, but contracts to the Police.
Your comment re: what I believe, are completely untrue.
I am commenting on the damage that Nathan does to the image of the Church, and TMB, and have no wish to see him locked up, and have never said that. I would like to see him get help however.
I suspect that you have some deep seated anger issues re: the Church that are unresolved.
When "private contractors" get involved, there is an enormous amount of financial incentive in maximizing the number of people who are imprisoned and institutionalized. Minorities who are disadvantaged in fighting the system are especially victimized. I'd suggest you reevaluate your relationship with this person if he is bragging about committing conspiracy theorists on that basis and making online diagnoses of message board posters with no real-life interaction. If you look around, you will find numerous surveys pointing to widespread belief in conspiracy theories. Health benefits of essential oils: 34% Ghosts, spirits, and other paranormal specters exist: 31% Health benefits of aromatherapy: 31% Technologically advanced civilizations existed prior to modern era: 21% Extraterrestrial visitors have come to earth: 20% Efficacy of homeopathy: 19% Illuminati, or a group of powerful people exerting control over world events: 16% Unclassified organisms like "bigfoot" or "yeti" or "Nessie" exist: 14% Astrology is real: 13% Numerology: 8% The existence of chemtrails: 7% Palmistry, seances and psychic readings are real: 7% Efficacy of crystal healing: 6% Flat earth: 2% www.insider.com/here-are-the-unproven-theories-americans-believe-in-the-most-2019-7In another recent story, 40% of US Republicans said they believed that Bill Gates wanted to use coronavirus vaccines to implant location-tracking microchips into people. www.businessinsider.com/republicans-bill-gates-covid-19-vaccine-tracking-microchip-study-2020-5And I stand by the claim that nearly all of these are still more believable than the claims that religion makes. No incentives in our country, sorry. That's not how it works.
He was not bragging, simply stating a fact, based on certain baseline criteria. I also work with the Police, so I know what I am talking about.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2020 0:52:31 GMT -5
That opening act delivers a lot of stirrer bullish.... ( yes I’m enjoying a glass of wine)
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Jul 20, 2020 1:18:40 GMT -5
That opening act delivers a lot of stirrer bullish.... ( yes I’m enjoying a glass of wine) You are off to hell. hehe, I am too. I made a venison curry in the weekend and it's a bit violent. So I am using a nice Pinot Gris as mouth wash.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2020 1:37:53 GMT -5
That opening act delivers a lot of stirrer bullish.... ( yes I’m enjoying a glass of wine) You are off to hell. hehe, I am too. I made a venison curry in the weekend and it's a bit violent. So I am using a nice Pinot Gris as mouth wash. I’m over Hell talk....but it’s hellishly cold here in the morning as of late. Excuse my ignorance Curly but never tasted Pinot Gris ( that I remember). How does that compare to chardonnay & sauvignon Blanc.
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Post by dmmichgood on Jul 20, 2020 1:50:48 GMT -5
That opening act delivers a lot of stirrer bullish.... ( yes I’m enjoying a glass of wine) You are off to hell. hehe, I am too. I made a venison curry in the weekend and it's a bit violent. So I am using a nice Pinot Gris as mouth wash.
Bash! Curley, are you just using that as an excuse?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2020 1:57:37 GMT -5
Curly I need some Pinot More. Any of that in NZ.
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Jul 20, 2020 2:44:30 GMT -5
Curly I need some Pinot More. Any of that in NZ. You can get Pinot More from a good old folks home supplies shop.
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Jul 20, 2020 2:46:19 GMT -5
You are off to hell. hehe, I am too. I made a venison curry in the weekend and it's a bit violent. So I am using a nice Pinot Gris as mouth wash.
Bash! Curley, are you just using that as an excuse? Nope it was a violent curry. The kind that blows your head off and when you think you can handle another mouthful it hits you again. Not sure what went wrong. My cooking is not usually this bad.
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Jul 20, 2020 2:47:21 GMT -5
You are off to hell. hehe, I am too. I made a venison curry in the weekend and it's a bit violent. So I am using a nice Pinot Gris as mouth wash. I’m over Hell talk....but it’s hellishly cold here in the morning as of late. Excuse my ignorance Curly but never tasted Pinot Gris ( that I remember). How does that compare to chardonnay & sauvignon Blanc. Yum, it is the pick of the three kinds of Pinot, those being Gris, Noir and More.
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Post by chimpingtongb on Sept 2, 2020 13:27:25 GMT -5
Don't bother using the Bible Wally, use common sense, and common decency. There are many things written in the Bible that don't apply in this day and age. They may have been applicable 2000 years but not now. If you behaved the way they did then, you would get locked up. the bible is full of timeless wisdom you know that redback... The Bible is a fairytale written and read by halfwits.
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Post by fixit on Sept 2, 2020 14:34:27 GMT -5
It almost seems that a couple of 2x2's have been given instructions to sabotage TMB. Makes one wonder.
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Post by speak on Sept 2, 2020 23:36:06 GMT -5
You are off to hell. hehe, I am too. I made a venison curry in the weekend and it's a bit violent. So I am using a nice Pinot Gris as mouth wash. I’m over Hell talk....but it’s hellishly cold here in the morning as of late. Excuse my ignorance Curly but never tasted Pinot Gris ( that I remember). How does that compare to chardonnay & sauvignon Blanc. Better
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Post by speak on Sept 2, 2020 23:38:10 GMT -5
the bible is full of timeless wisdom you know that redback... The Bible is a fairytale written and read by halfwits. With bigger halfwits taking notice
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Post by speak on Sept 2, 2020 23:39:28 GMT -5
It almost seems that a couple of 2x2's have been given instructions to sabotage TMB. There's a conspiracy theory that just might be possible. Has Review instructed Nathan and Wally? I wouldn't think so some how.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2020 23:57:17 GMT -5
Why not Speak?. You said Nathan's posts are totally bizarre. They are getting worse by the day. It is driving a lot of Members away that used to post. It has really thinned out in the last few months.
And to make matters worse we all get sucked in by it trying to make Nathan see sense. All to no avail, he probably is laughing his head off.
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Post by speak on Sept 3, 2020 0:54:27 GMT -5
Why not Speak?. You said Nathan's posts are totally bizarre. They are getting worse by the day. It is driving a lot of Members away that used to post. It has really thinned out in the last few months. And to make matters worse we all get sucked in by it trying to make Nathan see sense. All to no avail, he probably is laughing his head off. It meant to be that I don't believe review is instructing wally and nathan.
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Post by jetmech on Sept 5, 2020 8:13:55 GMT -5
My father no longer professes. He did profess for many years. My mother never professed. The workers spent time with my parents and stayed at their house. It's been almost two years since my mother passed away. Not one worker or 2x2 has extended their condolences. My father admits that he did not reach out to anyone. He says my mother's obituary was in the local newspaper and there are 2x2's in the area that had to have read it. My father is hurt that those he knew and cared for and called friends would shun him because he no longer professes. My opinion is, par for the course. I am not in the least bit surprised. Where's the Christ-like behavior? Where's the love? My twin brother and I have endured similar experiences. People in the truth, whom we were the best of friends with, have died or had family who have passed away, and no one ever contacts us and tells us. Strange. I think it's because some of the friends get so wrapped up in their own virtues they think they truly are the only ones who are saved and going to heaven, and that they are better than everyone else. What did my twin and I ever do "wrong" to any of them? The only thing I can think of is that we became foster children at the age of one and a half years old under no control whatsoever by us. The Bible teaches " ... condescend to men of low estate ..." Romans 12:16
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Post by openingact34 on Sept 5, 2020 11:56:32 GMT -5
My father no longer professes. He did profess for many years. My mother never professed. The workers spent time with my parents and stayed at their house. It's been almost two years since my mother passed away. Not one worker or 2x2 has extended their condolences. My father admits that he did not reach out to anyone. He says my mother's obituary was in the local newspaper and there are 2x2's in the area that had to have read it. My father is hurt that those he knew and cared for and called friends would shun him because he no longer professes. My opinion is, par for the course. I am not in the least bit surprised. Where's the Christ-like behavior? Where's the love? People have a tendency to assign character traits to Jesus that he never demonstrated or possessed. It is assumed that "Christ-like behavior" would include compassion for the bereaved. But the Bible shows the opposite. Matthew 8 recounts "another of his disciples said unto him, Lord, suffer me first to go and bury my father. But Jesus said unto him, Follow me; and let the dead bury their dead." Jesus behaved as the cult leader in this case, making himself the focus rather than offering condolences or help.
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Post by BobWilliston on Sept 5, 2020 16:02:52 GMT -5
My father no longer professes. He did profess for many years. My mother never professed. The workers spent time with my parents and stayed at their house. It's been almost two years since my mother passed away. Not one worker or 2x2 has extended their condolences. My father admits that he did not reach out to anyone. He says my mother's obituary was in the local newspaper and there are 2x2's in the area that had to have read it. My father is hurt that those he knew and cared for and called friends would shun him because he no longer professes. My opinion is, par for the course. I am not in the least bit surprised. Where's the Christ-like behavior? Where's the love? People have a tendency to assign character traits to Jesus that he never demonstrated or possessed. It is assumed that "Christ-like behavior" would include compassion for the bereaved. But the Bible shows the opposite. Matthew 8 recounts "another of his disciples said unto him, Lord, suffer me first to go and bury my father. But Jesus said unto him, Follow me; and let the dead bury their dead." Jesus behaved as the cult leader in this case, making himself the focus rather than offering condolences or help. I've heard workers preach exactly that in gospel meeting.
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Post by bfvernon on Sept 5, 2020 18:06:02 GMT -5
The man in Matthew 8 was saying that he couldn’t make such a radical change (following Jesus) while his father was alive. His father hadn’t just passed away and the funeral scheduled. He was talking about the culture of the day where children honoured their parents, and probably followed the same careers, thus had huge family responsibilities.
Jesus’ response is to say that following Him will require stepping outside cultural expectations,
I’ve heard several 2x2s say that they couldn’t “leave” while their parents were alive. And it’s a huge issue for Australian indigenous Christians because of kinship laws.
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Post by nathan on Sept 5, 2020 22:10:43 GMT -5
Question: "What did Jesus mean when He said 'Let the dead bury the dead' (Luke 9:60)?"
Answer: Jesus said, “Let the dead bury the dead,” in response to a disciple who wanted to spend time at home before committing himself to the Lord. Jesus said, “‘Follow me.’ But the man replied, ‘Lord, first let me go and bury my father.’ Jesus said to him, ‘Let the dead bury their own dead, but you go and proclaim the kingdom of God’” (Luke 9:59–60). This man may have wanted to fulfill the oldest son’s duty to bury the father, to be near the father in order to obtain an inheritance, or to remain near the body of his father for up to one year to rebury the bones, a practice of some Jews at the time. In any event, Jesus’ answer makes clear that this request would have involved putting tradition or the disciple’s own desires ahead of serving Jesus.
But who are “the dead” whom Jesus referred to as being the ones to bury their own dead? The word dead is used in this passage in two different senses. It is apparently a paradox and is used very effectively. The Jews used the word dead often to express indifference toward a thing or to express that something has no influence over us. To be dead to the law (Romans 7:4), to be dead to sin (Romans 6:11), means that the law and sin have no influence or control over us. We are free from them and act as though they are not. So people of the world are dead to Christ. They do not see His beauty, nor do they hear His voice or desire to follow Him. Only His “sheep” will do those things (John 10:27). The people of the world are those whom the Savior describes here as the (spiritually) dead who should bury the (physically) dead. Let people, He says, who are not interested in My work, and who are “dead in sin” (Ephesians 2:1), take care of the dead. Your duty is now to follow Me. While Scripture, and Jesus, are clear that we are to honor our parents (Ephesians 6:2), we have to understand that Jesus is to come first, and this would have been especially so in this instance, that is, with a direct command from the Lord. Peter, Andrew, James, John, and Matthew recognized the Lord and followed Him at once (Matthew 4:18–22; 9:9). The thing to which the man who wanted to bury his father was called was of more importance than any earthly consideration, and, for that time, Christ chose to require of the man a very extraordinary sacrifice to show his sincere attachment to Him.As regards the people of the world, nothing is more important than responding to the gospel. This requires that the gospel be preached (Romans 10:14), so once we make the decision to follow Jesus and preach His good news, we must deny dead, worldly pursuits and comforts, and do the Lord’s work. Jesus wants followers, not professors, and those who are spiritually alive will be instruments in the Lord’s hands to call others to new life in Christ.www.gotquestions.org/let-dead-bury-dead.html
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Post by BobWilliston on Sept 5, 2020 22:51:45 GMT -5
The man in Matthew 8 was saying that he couldn’t make such a radical change (following Jesus) while his father was alive. His father hadn’t just passed away and the funeral scheduled. He was talking about the culture of the day where children honoured their parents, and probably followed the same careers, thus had huge family responsibilities. Jesus’ response is to say that following Him will require stepping outside cultural expectations, I’ve heard several 2x2s say that they couldn’t “leave” while their parents were alive. And it’s a huge issue for Australian indigenous Christians because of kinship laws. Ironically they often send a worker home to look after their very elderly parents until they pass away. Then, on occasion, they don't let them back into the work again when they have passed.
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