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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2020 2:50:21 GMT -5
** Like I said you are welcome to believe it or NOT to believe it, I am just a messenger to deliver the message. I just sound the trumpet of warnings, believe it or not is up to you, is your choice and destiny. I will not be here forever to sound the trumpet of warnings. I KNOW I am welcome to believe it or not believe it. I KNOW it is up to me. I KNOW it is my choice. You don't have to tell me that. I live in a country where I have the freedom of conscience and religion, meaning I can think however I want, I don't need someone to shove religion down my throat and tell me that I am wrong and they are right. If we don't agree, we don't agree. But don't DARE tell me that I am wrong and you are right. I have never told you that your religious beliefs are wrong, even though I do disagree. But you are constantly telling me that I am wrong. So it's time that you start to respect other people and what they believe, even if you disagree. I wouldn’t pay too much attention to people who constantly tell you that your beliefs are wrong unless they can explain why they are wrong in a clear and coherent manner. And it’s probably a good thing that some people sound a trumpet of warning when promoting their religious beliefs here. True beliefs stand up to scrutiny. False beliefs don’t. The proof of the religious pudding is in the eating. In the great battle for truth we have science and evidence and facts on one side while on the other we have religious indoctrination, far fetched stories and a God who is supposed to be there but who has conveniently chosen to be both invisible and inactive. Matt10
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2020 5:52:02 GMT -5
i believe your open hostility(you can see it in most of your posts) to religion and 2x2ism is enough for anyone to know you think that they are wrong... Due to your post, wally, I decided to take a look at ForeverFree's posts.
I saw NO "hostility" toward you or religion!
Whenever any of us post what we believe, -it seems you can only see it through the lens of that we are being hostile to you!
You seem to see what we believe as is if it were personally offensive to you!
The constant preaching of Nathan that we in the wrong and his judgement about us is both disrespectful & very annoying.
i never said foreverfree was hostile to me i said that it was towards 2x2ism and religion...i suspect you have a biased eye or are in denial AGAIN to not see it...nice try though
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Post by nathan on May 8, 2020 9:14:35 GMT -5
i believe your open hostility(you can see it in most of your posts) to religion and 2x2ism is enough for anyone to know you think that they are wrong... Due to your post, wally, I decided to take a look at ForeverFree's posts.
I saw NO "hostility" toward you or religion!
Whenever any of us post what we believe, -it seems you can only see it through the lens of that we are being hostile to you!
You seem to see what we believe as is if it were personally offensive to you!
The constant preaching of Nathan that we in the wrong and his judgement about us is both disrespectful & very annoying.
The Truth hurts. I have been trying to do it gentle, kind ways on here for over 20 years but the hostility I face is unbelievable. No wonder, you don't see too many friends or workers are posting on here. When they tried in the past many of them were driven away because hostilities, unfriendliness they faced.
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Post by ForeverFree on May 8, 2020 13:10:55 GMT -5
I KNOW I am welcome to believe it or not believe it. I KNOW it is up to me. I KNOW it is my choice. You don't have to tell me that. I live in a country where I have the freedom of conscience and religion, meaning I can think however I want, I don't need someone to shove religion down my throat and tell me that I am wrong and they are right. If we don't agree, we don't agree. But don't DARE tell me that I am wrong and you are right. I have never told you that your religious beliefs are wrong, even though I do disagree. But you are constantly telling me that I am wrong. So it's time that you start to respect other people and what they believe, even if you disagree. i believe your open hostility(you can see it in most of your posts) to religion and 2x2ism is enough for anyone to know you think that they are wrong... I have never said that anyone's beliefs are wrong. If anything, I've said that someone's self righteous criticism to others beliefs are wrong.
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Post by ForeverFree on May 8, 2020 13:20:23 GMT -5
Due to your post, wally, I decided to take a look at ForeverFree's posts.
I saw NO "hostility" toward you or religion!
Whenever any of us post what we believe, -it seems you can only see it through the lens of that we are being hostile to you!
You seem to see what we believe as is if it were personally offensive to you!
The constant preaching of Nathan that we in the wrong and his judgement about us is both disrespectful & very annoying.
i never said foreverfree was hostile to me i said that it was towards 2x2ism and religion...i suspect you have a biased eye or are in denial AGAIN to not see it...nice try though I am not hostile to 2x2ism and religion. I may not be a believer, but I do respect other people's beliefs, and expect the same in decent conversation without being told "I am right, you are wrong" . But I suspect that you have a biased eye or are in denial AGAIN to not see it... nice try though.
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Post by ForeverFree on May 8, 2020 13:21:42 GMT -5
Due to your post, wally, I decided to take a look at ForeverFree's posts.
I saw NO "hostility" toward you or religion!
Whenever any of us post what we believe, -it seems you can only see it through the lens of that we are being hostile to you!
You seem to see what we believe as is if it were personally offensive to you!
The constant preaching of Nathan that we in the wrong and his judgement about us is both disrespectful & very annoying.
The Truth hurts. I have been trying to do it gentle, kind ways on here for over 20 years but the hostility I face is unbelievable. No wonder, you don't see too many friends or workers are posting on here. When they tried in the past many of them were driven away because hostilities, unfriendliness they faced.
Trying to do what gentle?
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Post by nathan on May 8, 2020 15:12:16 GMT -5
i believe your open hostility(you can see it in most of your posts) to religion and 2x2ism is enough for anyone to know you think that they are wrong... I have never said that anyone's beliefs are wrong. If anything, I've said that someone's self righteous criticism to others beliefs are wrong. *** The Pharisees and Saducces and MOST religions have been offended when Jesus and his apostles said He is the WAY, the TRUTH and LIFE no man comes to God the Father but through Him. Is Jesus a self righteous, selfish person according to you?
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Post by ForeverFree on May 8, 2020 15:47:20 GMT -5
I have never said that anyone's beliefs are wrong. If anything, I've said that someone's self righteous criticism to others beliefs are wrong. *** The Pharisees and Saducces and MOST religions have been offended when Jesus and his apostles said He is the WAY, the TRUTH and LIFE no man comes to God the Father but through Him. Is Jesus a self righteous, selfish person according to you? This is not about Jesus and the bible. This is about you. Stop trying to hide behind him with your defences. You can stand behind Jesus and throw stones, but you're still throwing stones in his name. John 8:7 So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2020 15:54:51 GMT -5
*** The Pharisees and Saducces and MOST religions have been offended when Jesus and his apostles said He is the WAY, the TRUTH and LIFE no man comes to God the Father but through Him. Is Jesus a self righteous, selfish person according to you? This is not about Jesus and the bible. This is about you. Stop trying to hide behind him with your defences. You can stand behind Jesus and throw stones, but you're still throwing stones in his name. John 8:7 So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her. its a bit funny when someone who has declared they are neither atheist nor christian starts quoting the bible....you wouldn't be trying to hide behind the bible would ya?
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Post by ForeverFree on May 8, 2020 16:09:06 GMT -5
This is not about Jesus and the bible. This is about you. Stop trying to hide behind him with your defences. You can stand behind Jesus and throw stones, but you're still throwing stones in his name. John 8:7 So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her. its a bit funny when someone who has declared they are neither atheist nor christian starts quoting the bible....you wouldn't be trying to hide behind the bible would ya? Sometimes it's the only way to get through to some people. Speak in the only language they understand.
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Post by nathan on May 8, 2020 16:19:03 GMT -5
The Truth hurts. I have been trying to do it gentle, kind ways on here for over 20 years but the hostility I face is unbelievable. No wonder, you don't see too many friends or workers are posting on here. When they tried in the past many of them were driven away because hostilities, unfriendliness they faced.
Trying to do what gentle? ** Tell the TRUTH of jesus in a mature, kind, manners loving ways.
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Post by nathan on May 8, 2020 16:28:09 GMT -5
*** The Pharisees and Saducces and MOST religions have been offended when Jesus and his apostles said He is the WAY, the TRUTH and LIFE no man comes to God the Father but through Him. Is Jesus a self righteous, selfish person according to you? This is not about Jesus and the bible. This is about you. Stop trying to hide behind him with your defences. You can stand behind Jesus and throw stones, but you're still throwing stones in his name. John 8:7 So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her. ** What a ridiculous thing to say how can I cast stones when I point people to follow and obey the teachings of Jesus like the apostles/Workers do? It's you and those like you are throwing stones at us/2×2 for following Jesus New Testament teachings, many call as a cult.
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Post by BobWilliston on May 8, 2020 16:33:05 GMT -5
Trying to do what gentle? ** Tell the TRUTH of jesus in a mature, kind, manners loving ways. And remind him that he is all screwed up and you aren't.
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Post by nathan on May 8, 2020 16:44:57 GMT -5
** Tell the TRUTH of jesus in a mature, kind, manners loving ways. And remind him that he is all screwed up and you aren't. *** Yep, we humans are ALL screwed up, Jesus is Always RIGHT! And ours ways, thinking, belief are WRONG and that is the truth. When we follow Jesus teachings then we are RIGHT because we follow in His footsteps.
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Post by ForeverFree on May 9, 2020 7:36:19 GMT -5
This is not about Jesus and the bible. This is about you. Stop trying to hide behind him with your defences. You can stand behind Jesus and throw stones, but you're still throwing stones in his name. John 8:7 So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her. ** What a ridiculous thing to say how can I cast stones when I point people to follow and obey the teachings of Jesus like the apostles/Workers do? It's you and those like you are throwing stones at us/2×2 for following Jesus New Testament teachings, many call as a cult. It is not possible to have a reasonable and logical discussion with you.
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Post by nathan on May 9, 2020 18:55:53 GMT -5
** What a ridiculous thing to say how can I cast stones when I point people to follow and obey the teachings of Jesus like the apostles/Workers do? It's you and those like you are throwing stones at us/2×2 for following Jesus New Testament teachings, many call as a cult. It is not possible to have a reasonable and logical discussion with you. *** You just don't like to read the answers I give you and that is Ok with me.
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Post by ForeverFree on May 10, 2020 7:10:43 GMT -5
It is not possible to have a reasonable and logical discussion with you. *** You just don't like to read the answers I give you and that is Ok with me. Ditto.
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