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Post by Get off of TMB on May 4, 2020 8:33:48 GMT -5
(The revolution in Cuba 1956)
Job 14:7 “For there is hope of a tree, if it be cut down, that it will sprout again, and that the tender branch thereof will not cease.
8 Though the root thereof wax old in the earth, and the stock thereof die in the ground;
9 Yet through the scent of water it will bud, and bring forth boughs like a plant”.
These verses I read started with “For there is hope” - God is a God of hope. Man looks at the fallen tree, but God looks at the stump. Man looks at what is lost, but God looks at what is left. What do you have in your house? Just a cruse of oil? Let us start there. What do you have in your life? I have a little faith, not very much, but let us start there. God is not thinking about what is lost, but if the root is still there. I thought of God’s work being like a tree in the world, and being like a tree in the lives of individuals. I don’t want to throw a bombshell and scare anybody, but friends, there hasn’t always been conventions; there hasn’t always been a ministry; there hasn’t always been an open worship; there hasn’t always been a tree. But my faith is enough to believe that in times, even in the scripture when there was no tree, I believe that somewhere, somehow, there was a root of truth in this world. It says that the root will grow old and will not die. There were times when there were no workers, no conventions, but my faith is enough to believe that somewhere – and I cannot explain it but that is where faith comes in – there was a root of truth. In the days of the captivity, the temple was closed. They didn’t know where the Book of the Law was. They were not keeping the Sabbath; there was no daily sacrifice; there was no song unto the Lord; there was no open worship; there was no active ministry. But in captivity Daniel was praying. There WAS a root! Ezra and Nehemiah were praying. Daniel was praying three times a day towards Jerusalem, praying for the day when again there would be a tree, when there would be worship as God wanted. It eventually came. Daniel prayed toward Jerusalem, and we pray toward Jesus and for His coming again. Our pray is “Come, Lord Jesus, come”, and the sooner the better!
In the opening of the New Testament there was no true ministry, there was no true worship, and the temple had become a den of thieves. But there was Zacharias and Elisabeth. There was a ROOT. John the Baptist sprung from that root. There was Joseph and Mary, Simeon and Anna. There was a root, and Jesus came forth. Jesus came and preached in Galilee, and the disciples accepted and followed Him. Some people ask, “Where did this ministry start?” Jesus sent them forth two and two, leaving everything, having nothing, without a home, without possessions. That was the ministry. My mother wanted me to be a Presbyterian minister because she was a Presbyterian when I was born. Then she met God’s servants and she professed and changed her prayer. She didn’t want me to be a salaried minister and told me that many times – you know how mothers get anxious, and I got tired of listening to it. But at 22, I felt the tug of God. My mother got me involved, but God got me convicted. It was a conviction from God.
I just want to say this: I would not give my life for any other doctrine or ministry. I have given the best years of my life to this ministry that began in Galilee. When Jesus came, He began in Galilee, sent forth His disciples, and people professed and churches were formed, and letters were written. There was a tree again, but for years there was no tree. I am not concerned about the years when there was no tree, but I am so thankful that in our day of His mercy, there are conventions, young people going forth into the work, and the gospel is being preached in almost every country in the world and people are accepting and churches are being formed. I’m so thankful that in our day there IS a tree, and we have evidence of it right here.
In Cuba, for years there was no tree. During the revolution, a circus was moving around, and the same people that were in the circus came to our mission. The clown and his wife professed, and some people who watched them professed. The church was in the clown’s home, and he was the elder of that church. There were two girls that went into the work from that little church. But when Communism came, they were arrested, their Bibles and hymn books were taken away. They were arrested one day and released the next day. They told our friends, “We will find a way for two people to meet together and talk about the Bible”. This shows us the importance of fellowship. It shows us that if two people can come together, they can encourage each other. They found a way and for 30 years there were no meetings, no conventions, and no workers. During the dark years of the early 1960s, two girls offered for the work but there was no work. We had asked them before on an earlier visit, in a little talk around the table, because we couldn’t meet together, so we asked them, “Why do you go on? There are no meetings, no workers, and no conventions”. Magdalia answered, “We go on because we haven’t come to the end yet”, and Emaylda said, “We go on so we won’t miss what is yet ahead.” If we don’t go on, we lose the past; we miss the future, and the best is yet ahead. The man of the home said that those that often encouraged him were those that simply went on, and if I just go on, maybe I can encourage another. Friends, we do not know the impact of just going on, just being in our place. Those girls asked, "what can we do?” We said there is no hope right now. You could develop the heart of a worker and live as a saint and go the extra mile, and if someday you can be in the work, you will have the heart of a sister worker. For 30 years they did just that. The anchor of hope is used not only in the storm but during the waiting time. There in Panama during the day, ships anchor waiting to go through the canal. The anchor of hope will keep us in the waiting time, waiting for a decision, waiting in the secret place, waiting in inactivity and waiting in old age for the final call. This anchor of hope will hold us to the end.
During the years when there was no tree, the elders asked if we could make up a study list for them. They said, “We can’t meet together to study, but it would draw us into fellowship and meditation knowing that all the workers and friends in Mexico, Central America and Panama are studying this chapter”, and so we did that. Those were the difficult years. One of the two girls who offered for the work, Emaylda, felt she was too old to go into the work after 30 years, but said “I will go with Magdalia as a saint, and just fill in”. She went with a heart problem, but said, “I will look after that next week when I come back. It is more important to go with Magdalia and have visits and make rounds and have meetings”. After one very busy day, she sat down and died. She wasn’t in the work but her heart was. Today there is a tree in Cuba.
Willie Pollack &&& I guess the friends might use COVID 19 as proof that the Way could survive despite folks being able to have fellowship meetings. Sort of like the time between the Old Testament and New Testament. Or between the New Testament days and William Irvine's revelation of "truth".
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Post by nathan on May 4, 2020 14:41:09 GMT -5
William Irvine and the 2x2 workers did NOT come up or start the 2x2 Matthew 10 apostolic/workers ministry in 1898.
William Irvine and the 2x2 workers copied the 2x2 workers Faith Mission Matthew 10 ministry... And the Faith Mission copied the 2x2 Matthew 10 ministry from those (Vaudois, Waldenses, Albigenses, Paulicans and so on) who had done before them for 1800 yrs... Back to Paul, others apostles then to Jesus.
Jesus TRUE church and New Testament ministry has always been on the earth... William Irvine and 2x2 workers did NOT start anything new but it has continued for 1800 yrs before they did it in 1898.
For 1800 years, Most of The Vaudois apostles/workers/preachers were unmarried and a few of them were married among them.
They often were sent two and two out to preach; the younger man with an older worker who had more experience in the ministry to teach and train the younger ones to be preachers, teachers, pastors, missionaries and so on.
The younger prachers are the churches future leaders of the next generation. Then they too pass on the torch to the next generation until Jesus returns to set up His eternal kingdom on earth 1000 yrs.
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Post by ForeverFree on May 4, 2020 18:36:42 GMT -5
William Irvine and the 2x2 workers did NOT come up or start the 2x2 Matthew 10 apostolic/workers ministry in 1898. William Irvine and the 2x2 workers copied the 2x2 workers Faith Mission Matthew 10 ministry... And the Faith Mission copied the 2x2 Matthew 10 ministry from those (Vaudois, Waldenses, Albigenses, Paulicans and so on) who had done before them for 1800 yrs... Back to Paul, others apostles then to Jesus. Jesus TRUE church and New Testament ministry has always been on the earth... William Irvine and 2x2 workers did NOT start anything new but it has continued for 1800 yrs before they did it in 1898. For 1800 years, Most of The Vaudois apostles/workers/preachers were unmarried and a few of them were married among them. They often were sent two and two out to preach; the younger man with an older worker who had more experience in the ministry to teach and train the younger ones to be preachers, teachers, pastors, missionaries and so on. The younger prachets are the churches future leaders next generation. Then they too pass on the torch to the next generation until Jesus returns to set up His eternal kingdom on earth 1000 yrs. And what happens after the thousand years are up?
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Post by nathan on May 4, 2020 19:15:24 GMT -5
William Irvine and the 2x2 workers did NOT come up or start the 2x2 Matthew 10 apostolic/workers ministry in 1898. William Irvine and the 2x2 workers copied the 2x2 workers Faith Mission Matthew 10 ministry... And the Faith Mission copied the 2x2 Matthew 10 ministry from those (Vaudois, Waldenses, Albigenses, Paulicans and so on) who had done before them for 1800 yrs... Back to Paul, others apostles then to Jesus. Jesus TRUE church and New Testament ministry has always been on the earth... William Irvine and 2x2 workers did NOT start anything new but it has continued for 1800 yrs before they did it in 1898. For 1800 years, Most of The Vaudois apostles/workers/preachers were unmarried and a few of them were married among them. They often were sent two and two out to preach; the younger man with an older worker who had more experience in the ministry to teach and train the younger ones to be preachers, teachers, pastors, missionaries and so on. The younger prachets are the churches future leaders next generation. Then they too pass on the torch to the next generation until Jesus returns to set up His eternal kingdom on earth 1000 yrs. And what happens after the thousand years are up? *** The Final judgment Day. Then The celeration marriage supper of the Lamb/Christ and the Church/humans which have been gather/collected from the earth and billions intelligence beings species that God created to populate throughout the trilions galaxies/planets for billions of yrs, will take place in heaven. After Christ's marriage celebration the Godhead and His chosen people and beings will be living in the New heaven and earth. There will be no more wars, death and sorrows, we will live forever in love, joy, peace, and harmony forever with the Godhead= God the Father, Christ our Savior/Redeemer and the Holy Spirit and all the holy angels of God.
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Post by BobWilliston on May 4, 2020 19:30:38 GMT -5
And what happens after the thousand years are up? *** The Final judgment Day. Then The celeration marriage supper of the Lamb/Christ and the Church/humans which have been gather/collected from the earth and billions intelligence beings species that God created to populate throughout the trilions galaxies/planets for billions of yrs, will take place in heaven. Any chance of social distancing at this event?
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Post by iam on May 4, 2020 19:40:19 GMT -5
*** The Final judgment Day. Then The celeration marriage supper of the Lamb/Christ and the Church/humans which have been gather/collected from the earth and billions intelligence beings species that God created to populate throughout the trilions galaxies/planets for billions of yrs, will take place in heaven. Any chance of social distancing at this event? Revelation 22:2 KJV In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river, was there the tree of life, which bare twelve manner of fruits, and yielded her fruit every month: and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations. No need for you to worry, Bob! You’re good to go!😄
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Post by nathan on May 4, 2020 20:20:07 GMT -5
*** The Final judgment Day. Then The celeration marriage supper of the Lamb/Christ and the Church/humans which have been gather/collected from the earth and billions intelligence beings species that God created to populate throughout the trilions galaxies/planets for billions of yrs, will take place in heaven. Any chance of social distancing at this event? ** hehe... No Virus in the Universe can harm the NEW Resurrection bodies! We can chat face to face or read/talk to each others minds through long distance, telepathy... Appear and disappear at will. The believers will have the same resurrection body which He has after he was raised from the dead 2000 yrs ago. He could be touched, eat fish, go through walls, appear and disappear anywhere at any time and place at will.
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Post by ForeverFree on May 4, 2020 20:25:33 GMT -5
And what happens after the thousand years are up? *** The Final judgment Day. Then The celeration marriage supper of the Lamb/Christ and the Church/humans which have been gather/collected from the earth and billions intelligence beings species that God created to populate throughout the trilions galaxies/planets for billions of yrs, will take place in heaven. After Christ's marriage celebration the Godhead and His chosen people and beings will be living in the New heaven and earth. There will be no more wars, death and sorrows, we will live forever in love, joy, peace, and harmony forever with the Godhead= God the Father, Christ our Savior/Redeemer and the Holy Spirit and all the holy angels of God. All that's missing is "....and they all lived happily ever after."
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Post by nathan on May 4, 2020 20:36:19 GMT -5
*** The Final judgment Day. Then The celeration marriage supper of the Lamb/Christ and the Church/humans which have been gather/collected from the earth and billions intelligence beings species that God created to populate throughout the trilions galaxies/planets for billions of yrs, will take place in heaven. After Christ's marriage celebration the Godhead and His chosen people and beings will be living in the New heaven and earth. There will be no more wars, death and sorrows, we will live forever in love, joy, peace, and harmony forever with the Godhead= God the Father, Christ our Savior/Redeemer and the Holy Spirit and all the holy angels of God. All that's missing is "....and they all lived happily ever after." ** I said it my post, yes... I agree with you 110% no more tears, sorrows, and death. God will wipe out all the sadness of the old earth life from our memories forever! It will be forgotten and buried forever somewhere from our minds.
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WHY? Does quoting relevant scripture send the 2x2;s into sometimes a nasty response??
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Post by magpies39plus on May 4, 2020 21:16:46 GMT -5
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Post by ForeverFree on May 5, 2020 0:38:13 GMT -5
All that's missing is "....and they all lived happily ever after." ** I said it my post, yes... I agree with you 110% no more tears, sorrows, and death. God will wipe out all the sadness of the old earth life from our memories forever! It will be forgotten and buried forever somewhere from our minds. You agree with me 110%? Interesting, because I was being sarcastic. This sounds like a child's fairy tale.
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Post by nathan on May 5, 2020 2:45:26 GMT -5
** I said it my post, yes... I agree with you 110% no more tears, sorrows, and death. God will wipe out all the sadness of the old earth life from our memories forever! It will be forgotten and buried forever somewhere from our minds. You agree with me 110%? Interesting, because I was being sarcastic. This sounds like a child's fairy tale. It's NOT fairy tale at all... It's God words and promises... Jesus said to his followers in John 14... I go to prepare a PLACE for and where I am there you will be also. In my Father's House there are MANY mansions.
If you don't believe it, you need to read Rev. chapters 21 and 22... It's ALL in those two chapters.
Rev. 21:1-9 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.
2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.
4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.
5 And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.
6 And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely.
7 He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son.
8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and ladymongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
9 And there came unto me one of the seven angels which had the seven vials full of the seven last plagues, and talked with me, saying, Come hither, I will shew thee the bride, the Lamb's wife.
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Post by Annan on May 5, 2020 7:28:13 GMT -5
...We can chat face to face or read/talk to each others minds through long distance, telepathy... Appear and disappear at will. The believers will have the same resurrection body which He has after he was raised from the dead 2000 yrs ago. He could be touched, eat fish, go through walls, appear and disappear anywhere at any time and place at will. Where does the bible say that?
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Post by nathan on May 5, 2020 9:15:26 GMT -5
...We can chat face to face or read/talk to each others minds through long distance, telepathy... Appear and disappear at will. The believers will have the same resurrection body which He has after he was raised from the dead 2000 yrs ago. He could be touched, eat fish, go through walls, appear and disappear anywhere at any time and place at will. Where does the bible say that? Read in the gospel of John and Matthew after Jesus was raised from the dead the last two chapters where the disciples stayed/hiding in a locked door home then suddenly he appeared in the room but Thomas wasn't in the room, and he didn't believe it. Then a week later it happened again, and this time Thomas was among them, out of the blue Jesus appeared stand among them and showed him, the wound on his side and hands. Thomas believed it is the Risen Christ/Jesus and said, "My Lord and My God."
Another time two disciples were walking and talking among themselves about the appearance of risen Jesus, and he appeared and told them that is true and it is speaking to them.
Jesus stayed and visited the apostles and 500 disciples for 40 days, and then he ascended up in the heaven before their eyes Acts 1. The angels told the apostles this same Jesus will come back the same way, he will descendant from the sky with His people to set up His eternal kingdom on earth.
John the apostle wrote in 1 John 3:2 "Beloved, we are God’s children now, and what we will be has not yet appeared; but we know that when he appears we shall be like him, because we shall see him as he is."
When Jesus returns He will give all believers in Christ the Same resurrection bodies, like He has so, we will be able to live forever, appear and disappear at will to rule with Him in His kingdom on earth 1000 years.
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Post by Annan on May 5, 2020 10:45:39 GMT -5
Jesus stayed and visited the apostles and 500 disciples for 40 days, and then he ascended up in the heaven before their eyes Acts 1. The angels told the apostles this same Jesus will come back the same way, he will descendant from the sky with His people to set up His eternal kingdom on earth. On earth, not Venus as you keep telling us?
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Post by nathan on May 5, 2020 11:18:22 GMT -5
Jesus stayed and visited the apostles and 500 disciples for 40 days, and then he ascended up in the heaven before their eyes Acts 1. The angels told the apostles this same Jesus will come back the same way, he will descendant from the sky with His people to set up His eternal kingdom on earth. On earth, not Venus as you keep telling us? ** I believe the Godhead= God the Father, Christ and Holy Spirit and all the angels they created have been living inside Venus planet, that is theirs dwelling home/habitation. God's throne or headquarter of operation.. Christ/God will come back to earth to set up His eternal kingdom on earth to rule with chosen people. To rule with Christ we humans must have the resurrection bodies like He has. That was one of the reasons he said YE MUST BE BORN AGAIN! To enter the kingdom of God. The current humans which we have are MOTALS because of sins and it belongs to Satan...In the garden of Eden Adam and Eve SOLD the humans souls to Satan. That was one of the main reasons Christ came down from heaven/Venus to earth to RESTORE our Immortalality which He created Adam and Eve before the FALL.
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Post by snow on May 5, 2020 13:40:57 GMT -5
I wonder why Jesus and God have to live in the interior of Venus? Aren't they powerful enough to create livable conditions on the exterior of the planet? Why pick a planet where you have to live underground in the first place. It's all a fairy tale. Planets are not hollow no matter how often it is repeated.
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Post by nathan on May 5, 2020 14:27:31 GMT -5
I wonder why Jesus and God have to live in the interior of Venus? Aren't they powerful enough to create livable conditions on the exterior of the planet? Why pick a planet where you have to live underground in the first place. It's all a fairy tale. Planets are not hollow no matter how often it is repeated. ** The 800 degree HEAT on the surface is like a protected sheild of God's kingdom so, no humans, intelligence beings/races, unwanted guests or fallen angels can enter without permission.
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Post by ForeverFree on May 5, 2020 14:59:44 GMT -5
You agree with me 110%? Interesting, because I was being sarcastic. This sounds like a child's fairy tale. It's NOT fairy tale at all... It's God words and promises... Jesus said to his followers in John 14... I go to prepare a PLACE for and where I am there you will be also. In my Father's House there are MANY mansions.
If you don't believe it, you need to read Rev. chapters 21 and 22... It's ALL in those two chapters.
Rev. 21:1-9 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.
2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.
4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.
5 And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.
6 And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely.
7 He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son.
8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and ladymongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
9 And there came unto me one of the seven angels which had the seven vials full of the seven last plagues, and talked with me, saying, Come hither, I will shew thee the bride, the Lamb's wife.
Again, this is YOUR opinion, and again, you seem to think that YOUR opinion is the only one that is right. I could just as easily quote (cut & paste) things as you have, from any book of the bible or any book written throughout time. You're just standing there yelling out bible verses in bold and colour. That means nothing.
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Post by intelchips on May 5, 2020 15:10:22 GMT -5
You agree with me 110%? Interesting, because I was being sarcastic. This sounds like a child's fairy tale. It's NOT fairy tale at all... It's God words and promises... Jesus said to his followers in John 14... I go to prepare a PLACE for and where I am there you will be also. In my Father's House there are MANY mansions.
If you don't believe it, you need to read Rev. chapters 21 and 22... It's ALL in those two chapters.
Rev. 21:1-9 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.
2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.
4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.
5 And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.
6 And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely.
7 He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son.
8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and ladymongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
9 And there came unto me one of the seven angels which had the seven vials full of the seven last plagues, and talked with me, saying, Come hither, I will shew thee the bride, the Lamb's wife.
Nathan, have you ever gave any thought to stop reading the Bible and to begin study of the Bible? This would include all the critical thought other Bible scholars have on the matter. Consider for a moment that many of the Old Testament characters were the earthly embodiment of Stellar, Solar, Moon or Earth Gods.
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Post by nathan on May 5, 2020 15:22:17 GMT -5
It's NOT fairy tale at all... It's God words and promises... Jesus said to his followers in John 14... I go to prepare a PLACE for and where I am there you will be also. In my Father's House there are MANY mansions.
If you don't believe it, you need to read Rev. chapters 21 and 22... It's ALL in those two chapters.
Rev. 21:1-9 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.
2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.
4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.
5 And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.
6 And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely.
7 He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son.
8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and ladymongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
9 And there came unto me one of the seven angels which had the seven vials full of the seven last plagues, and talked with me, saying, Come hither, I will shew thee the bride, the Lamb's wife.
Again, this is YOUR opinion, and again, you seem to think that YOUR opinion is the only one that is right. I could just as easily quote (cut & paste) things as you have, from any book of the bible or any book written throughout time. You're just standing there yelling out bible verses in bold and colour. That means nothing. ** I let God's words speak for God and they are NOT my words but God's. Soory, you don't believe in His words and promises.
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Post by ForeverFree on May 5, 2020 15:34:18 GMT -5
Again, this is YOUR opinion, and again, you seem to think that YOUR opinion is the only one that is right. I could just as easily quote (cut & paste) things as you have, from any book of the bible or any book written throughout time. You're just standing there yelling out bible verses in bold and colour. That means nothing. ** I let God's words speak for God and they are NOT my words but God's. Soory, you don't believe in His words and promises. You are sorry because I don't agree with you, not because of what I believe or disbelieve.
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Post by nathan on May 5, 2020 15:59:43 GMT -5
** I let God's words speak for God and they are NOT my words but God's. Soory, you don't believe in His words and promises. You are sorry because I don't agree with you, not because of what I believe or disbelieve. ** It's NOT my words that you disagee with but God's, he said it and NOT me.
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Post by Grant on May 5, 2020 16:26:49 GMT -5
I wonder why Jesus and God have to live in the interior of Venus? Aren't they powerful enough to create livable conditions on the exterior of the planet? Why pick a planet where you have to live underground in the first place. It's all a fairy tale. Planets are not hollow no matter how often it is repeated. ** The 800 degree HEAT on the surface is like a protected sheild of God's kingdom so, no humans, intelligence beings/races, unwanted guests or fallen angels can enter without permission. As others say, your thoughts, not in the Bible.
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Post by snow on May 5, 2020 18:17:11 GMT -5
** The 800 degree HEAT on the surface is like a protected sheild of God's kingdom so, no humans, intelligence beings/races, unwanted guests or fallen angels can enter without permission. As others say, your thoughts, not in the Bible. Apparently God can be snuck up on and needs to rely on the physical universe to protect him?? I guess that rumor that he was all powerful and all knowing etc. was just that, a rumor.
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Post by ForeverFree on May 5, 2020 18:20:17 GMT -5
You are sorry because I don't agree with you, not because of what I believe or disbelieve. ** It's NOT my words that you disagee with but God's, he said it and NOT me. Again.... that is YOUR opinion. Your self righteousness is clouding your thinking.
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Post by nathan on May 5, 2020 20:09:03 GMT -5
** It's NOT my words that you disagee with but God's, he said it and NOT me. Again.... that is YOUR opinion. Your self righteousness is clouding your thinking. You call me self-righteous for pointing you to God's words and promises? You should point that Self-righteous to God and NOT me, I am just posting what He said.
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Post by nathan on May 5, 2020 20:12:36 GMT -5
As others say, your thoughts, not in the Bible. Apparently God can be snuck up on and needs to rely on the physical universe to protect him?? I guess that rumor that he was all powerful and all knowing etc. was just that, a rumor. Yes, look what Satan and 1/3 of the fallen angels did in heaven... they fought against God and His holy angels and ruined things in heaven, but we KNOW God's angels defeated them and He sent them to earth as their home and prison until the Judgement with the rest of unbelievers.
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